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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:20pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

What question?
The first mention of mine u replied today

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 12:25pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:

The first mention of mine u replied today
Dont be an idiot, felix. Whats the question?

I know you are a joke. You are empty save for the few morselfs of KEB shit that float around your cerebrum. Make an effort to prove me wrong.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:26pm On Jun 19, 2017
Davidgrey:
[b][color=#000050] I see! undecided

All your claims are assumptions that have never been proven

Says the atheist who believes there is no God . Has that belief been proven ?

Davidgrey:
If a thing like "free will" exist, Why are people aware of the existence of heaven and hell?

There is no correlation between the two .

Davidgrey:
[color=#000050]Science is "practical knowledge" Science has proven over the years that the bible is not accurate(Dinosaurs, Planets, The Sun, Creation of man, Tower of babel.........)

Nonsense . There are various interpretations of stories in the bible especially allegorical or metaphorical interpretations of the creation story , Tower of Babel , Noah and the Ark . What about the archaeological evidences of the biblical places and historical evidence of the figures and events in the Bible ?

The deists use logic , reason , science and observation of nature to prove the existence of God . Rejection religion as the deists do is not tantamount to questioning God's existence .

Davidgrey:
[color=#000050]If God is omnipresence then the concept of heaven is flawed.

Being Omnipresent means being present in all places at all times . So yes , God is present in both Heaven and Hell .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:27pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

Dont be an idiot, felix. Whats the question?

I know you are a joke. You are empty save for the few morselfs of KEB shit that float around your cerebrum. Make an effort to prove me wrong.
Mumudeen,
So u are now blind too?
What a combo with the ignorance! cool

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 12:28pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:

Mumudeen,
So u are now blind too?
What a combo with the ignorance! cool
What is the question, Felix? Or do you prefer to trade insults, the only 'intellectual exercise' your minute brain loves to engage in?

Empty otondo forming smart. Bye. Talk to you next time I'm bored.

Edit: Just before you edit your posts. I can see KEB doing his thing already. grin
felixomor:


The same God u say Doesn't exist?
Why do u people keep skipping?
sonofluc1fer:

Felixomoron, I know your IQ might be too low to process this, but talking about the atrributes of a character in fiction doesn't make them real.
E.g Tom and Jerry. Tom is a bad cat! = Tom is real.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:33pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

What is the question, Felix? Or do you prefer to trade insults, the only 'intellectual exercise' your minute brain loves to engage in?

sonofluc1fer:

Felixomoron, I know your IQ might be too low to process this, but talking about the atrributes of a character in fiction doesn't make them real

^^^
Compound hypocrite undecided

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 12:33pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:

^^^
Compound hypocrite undecided
Thank you Sir SmartFelix. I'm sorry I insulted you. I should never have called you ignorant or a fool. Apologies, Sir.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:36pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

Felixomoron, I know your IQ might be too low to process this, but talking about the atrributes of a character in fiction doesn't make them real.
E.g Tom and Jerry. Tom is a bad cat! = Tom is real.

Back to ignore list with your buddy KingEbuka. The 'ignore' list - for ignorant people such as yourself.

We've never had a meaningful discussion before . Its obvious what's gona happen if that happens grin . Keep using petty sarcasm to mask your ignorance .

Man created gods and atheism fell from the sky . Rẹ wère ni ko si aala grin

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 12:44pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


We've never had a meaningful discussion before .
It's impossible to have one with someone who says Allah=Yahweh.
That level of ignorance deserves a whi and lashing, not intellect. You make things up as you go, just like your friend and fool-in-arm smartfelix.

Oh, that and you are big. Fat. And also a liar. What a combo.

I could ignore all that if it weren't for your little habit of rolling in mud when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. 2017 Moses African retard looking for meaningful discussion? Isn't Sunday School meaningful enough for you?
What sort of 'meaningful' discussion do you wanna habe with the Devil's Son?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:53pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

It's impossible to have one with someone who says Allah=Yahweh.

You are very shameless grin

Christianity , Judaism , Islam are called Abrahamic religions because there's the worship of the God of Abraham . The God of Abraham is Yahweh , his name in Arabic is Allah . Jews and Christians worship the same God but Muslims worship a different God ? Yet they are called Abrahamic religions ? Jesus is even a prophet in Islam but is seen as the son of God in Christianity . With your understanding : Jesus is the son of a different God , yet the prophet of another God . cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

Its a travesty to call you intelligent . Common sense hasn't just eluded you , it abandoned you and never will it return because you don't deserve to have it .

Again , use petty sarcasm and insipid humor to avoid understanding this simple knowledge . Go on do it . grin

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 1:02pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Apparently like you have more knowledge of pandeism than I do . I have two more questions for you sir and then an offer .

1. Christ, Buddha , Confuscius, Lao-Tzu , mystic teachers etc all had esoteric knowledge of life . In your view these people were more spiritually enlightened than we are , right ? I've heard claims that these individuals got this knowledge from the Divine plane , the Absolute to be exact, but it is so clear that their messages are conflicting . Why is this so if they all sourced knowledge from The One ?

2. You said that we experience transitions and our souls incarnate in mortal bodies to continue life else where in the universe. Why is that when our spirits are temporarily liberated at night when we sleep we do not access memories of past lives of the peregrination through these dimensions or planets in the universe . And those who claim to have memories of past lives have conflicting experiences . Why is this so ?

And the offer :

How would you see being one of the authors of a book on Pandeism ? Other authors are from various parts of the world from all walks of life .

Before I dive in deep to respond to your questions, let me state that I do not like labels. Pandeism, Pantheism, Atheisms, Theism, Deism etc are labels. I have been on the issues of Quantum Dynamics, Digital Physics, Biogenesis, Astrology, Quantum Biology, Christianism, Islam, Hinduism and so many other fields of knowledge. I research even Archeology in order to understand life, but I am not under any label, because doing so will limit my understandings to approved creeds and dogma of such teachings. I will no doubts, write a simplified book on the Theory of Everything, God and Essence of Existence. This will come at a latter stage in my life as I have very busy schedules now.

1. Good Question there; If you follow my posts on these issues, then what I am writing here will be very clear. All knowledge is ONE. And Comes from ONE SOURCE. The Source Field is the core of our being. But there is something more to our physicality. The Ego. We have come to recognize our ego as our real self, this is wrong. The Ego Construct is a resultant effect of our distinct experiences in life based on certain factors. Like family indoctrinations, Schools, poverty, wealth, difficulties etc. These shapes our experiences and from our experiences we learn lessons and those lessons are different from each person because individual goes through different experiences in life. So, since we are unique, when we connect to SOURCE, we download core data of information. These batches of data we try to interpret based on our mental faculties which is dependent on our ego and our level of understanding. For example, it will be difficult for an illiterate even though he/she is connecting to source to explain Quantum Dynamics in the language that intelligent scientists will understand. Which is why I venture into studying these core sciences before connecting to sources.

Another reason is simple; I stated that GOD has no issues playing God and has no issues with Its playing God, cos God is actually everything and will love to play itself or opposite of itself in the Matrix. So, many people actually connect to a different Entity in a different Dimension which actually may be deceptive. This is why Christianity or other religions have Pastors who can swear that they are speaking to God or Jesus or have even seen Jesus. So, I have advise for them to connect to Christ Consciousness, and that is only where they can meet Beings on that hierarchy outside which there are other ETs masquerading as Jesus, and there is nothing wrong with that in the greater scheme of things. It is just a game to them.

2. Our Spirit does not leave our body at sleep, we shift our conscious awareness to the next dimension based on our vibratory rate. At sleep, we undergo so many things. Our memory is defragmented so we can easily function the next day. Our Consciousness is shifted to the other densities and dimensions to transmit the daily data we accumulate to through the cosmic grid to the Cosmic Data Warehouse called the Akashic Record. So, this database connects to us via a component of our DNA. So, in essence, we are hibernating. The brain power is lowered to the minimum, our heart rate is reduced since our consciousness is no more in our brain, we shift consciousness to the other dimensions, but when we shift our consciousness back to wakefulness, it is just a transfer of consciousness and we are not to remember what we experienced in the dream because we agreed not to. We decided that life will not be fun if we are 100% aware of the matrix and how it works so that is why we decided to make it this way.

Past life memories are not even necessary to have cos it will be confusing to us. We have been soldiers, carpenters, criminals, Kings etc in different lifetimes so why do I need that information of my travels in the Cosmos to function here ? To me it is not necessary except to know your karma so you can feel at ease and know how to go through life without picking up more karma. That is for those who do not know how to dissolve the karma when they attain higher consciousness.

Any way, I do not know if this answers your questions but I could write more on these when I am less busy.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 1:11pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You are very shameless grin

Christianity , Judaism , Islam are called Abrahamic religions because there's the worship of the God of Abraham . The God of Abraham is Yahweh , his name in Arabic is Allah . Jews and Christians worship the same God but Muslims worship a different God ? Yet they are called Abrahamic religions ? Jesus is even a prophet in Islam but is seen as the son of God in Christianity . With your understanding : Jesus is the son of a different God , yet the prophet of another God . cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

Its a travesty to call you intelligent . Common sense hasn't just eluded you , it abandoned you and never will it return because you don't deserve to have it .

Again , use petty sarcasm and insipid humor to avoid understanding this simple knowledge . Go on do it . grin

Spot On.
I wish Dalamama can read this

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by nobleblood: 1:14pm On Jun 19, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Good one, KingEbuka.

Now if only God, the omnipresent could just create an NL account and verify your claims, that'd be awesome.

One little miracle for my poor hell bound soul.
Click to understand Christianity


He just did through me

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by nobleblood: 1:21pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:
Most of your write up is just so nonsensical that I don't know where to begin from. Everything written up there is just empty assertion that makes no sense at all. I will just take one of them and show you that your assertions are false.




This is completely false. How can the pinnaclnne of moral perfection engage on evil? The bible in some places has God doing evil, and apologizing for his evil deeds.

(Exod. 32:14), “And the Lord repented of the evil [/b]which he thought to do unto his people.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: [b]For I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you
.
Jeremiah 42:10

Why is your God doing evil and repenting? A perfect God that is the pinnacle of morality that goes about doing evil is impossible.

As usual you have come to just expose your self and your weak and ill thought out arguments that make no sense at all.


Quite acting intelligent. Science predicts this form of thought. Hear your mentor august comte. Father of modern social psychology. . " in the era of positivism, what men see or feel will ultimately assume for them reality"


Your simply acting out a script.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:31pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You are very shameless grin

Christianity , Judaism , Islam are called Abrahamic religions because there's the worship of the God of Abraham . The God of Abraham is Yahweh , his name in Arabic is Allah . Jews and Christians worship the same God but Muslims worship a different God ? Yet they are called Abrahamic religions ? Jesus is even a prophet in Islam but is seen as the son of God in Christianity . With your understanding : Jesus is the son of a different God , yet the prophet of another God . cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

Its a travesty to call you intelligent . Common sense hasn't just eluded you , it abandoned you and never will it return because you don't deserve to have it .

Again , use petty sarcasm and insipid humor to avoid understanding this simple knowledge . Go on do it . grin

So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last prophet? Allah is 3 in one and sacrificed himself unto himself for human salvation abi ? Well done
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:32pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:


Spot On.
I wish Dalamama can read this

So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last prophet. Good to know.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:38pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:


Thank u jare.
Allow the ignoramus to be singing "apologize"

He cant even show us the apology in the bible.

Where is the agreement they made inside the bible. Can you show us?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 1:40pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:


So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last prophet. Good to know.

Whatever mahn.
On the Last day, We will know who is telling the truth.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:41pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:


Whatever mahn.
On the Last day, We will know who is telling the truth.

Sure on the last day Yahweh will throw you in hell for not believing in Mohammed his last mesenger.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 1:44pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:


Sure on the last day Yahweh will throw you in hell for not believing in Mohammed his last mesenger.

This is not even written in the koran
I wonder where u got it from.
Maybe u want to start writing your own scriptures grin

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:50pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:


This is not even written in the koran
I wonder where u got it from.
Maybe u want to start writing your own scriptures grin

You said Yahweh is Allah . Now it's not written in the Koran? God in the Koran said he'll throw people like you in hell for not accepting the teachings of Mohammed his last messenger. You are doomed. You'll roast in hell.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 1:53pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:


You said Yahweh is Allah . Now it's not written in the Koran? God in the Koran said he'll throw people like you in hell for not accepting the teachings of Mohammed his last messenger. You are doomed. You'll roast in hell.

Keep writing your own "Neo-koranic" scriptures there grin
U will soon turn to Otem......

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:53pm On Jun 19, 2017
Billyonaire:


Before I dive in deep to respond to your questions, let me state that I do not like labels. Pandeism, Pantheism, Atheisms, Theism, Deism etc are labels. I have been on the issues of Quantum Dynamics, Digital Physics, Biogenesis, Astrology, Quantum Biology, Christianism, Islam, Hinduism and so many other fields of knowledge. I research even Archeology in order to understand life, but I am not under any label, because doing so will limit my understandings to approved creeds and dogma of such teachings. I will no doubts, write a simplified book on the Theory of Everything, God and Essence of Existence. This will come at a latter stage in my life as I have very busy schedules now.

1. Good Question there; If you follow my posts on these issues, then what I am writing here will be very clear. All knowledge is ONE. And Comes from ONE SOURCE. The Source Field is the core of our being. But there is something more to our physicality. The Ego. We have come to recognize our ego as our real self, this is wrong. The Ego Construct is a resultant effect of our distinct experiences in life based on certain factors. Like family indoctrinations, Schools, poverty, wealth, difficulties etc. These shapes our experiences and from our experiences we learn lessons and those lessons are different from each person because individual goes through different experiences in life. So, since we are unique, when we connect to SOURCE, we download core data of information. These batches of data we try to interpret based on our mental faculties which is dependent on our ego and our level of understanding. For example, it will be difficult for an illiterate even though he/she is connecting to source to explain Quantum Dynamics in the language that intelligent scientists will understand. Which is why I venture into studying these core sciences before connecting to sources.

Another reason is simple; I stated that GOD has no issues playing God and has no issues with Its playing God, cos God is actually everything and will love to play itself or opposite of itself in the Matrix. So, many people actually connect to a different Entity in a different Dimension which actually may be deceptive. This is why Christianity or other religions have Pastors who can swear that they are speaking to God or Jesus or have even seen Jesus. So, I have advise for them to connect to Christ Consciousness, and that is only where they can meet Beings on that hierarchy outside which there are other ETs masquerading as Jesus, and there is nothing wrong with that in the greater scheme of things. It is just a game to them.

2. Our Spirit does not leave our body at sleep, we shift our conscious awareness to the next dimension based on our vibratory rate. At sleep, we undergo so many things. Our memory is defragmented so we can easily function the next day. Our Consciousness is shifted to the other densities and dimensions to transmit the daily data we accumulate to through the cosmic grid to the Cosmic Data Warehouse called the Akashic Record. So, this database connects to us via a component of our DNA. So, in essence, we are hibernating. The brain power is lowered to the minimum, our heart rate is reduced since our consciousness is no more in our brain, we shift consciousness to the other dimensions, but when we shift our consciousness back to wakefulness, it is just a transfer of consciousness and we are not to remember what we experienced in the dream because we agreed not to. We decided that life will not be fun if we are 100% aware of the matrix and how it works so that is why we decided to make it this way.

Past life memories are not even necessary to have cos it will be confusing to us. We have been soldiers, carpenters, criminals, Kings etc in different lifetimes so why do I need that information of my travels in the Cosmos to function here ? To me it is not necessary except to know your karma so you can feel at ease and know how to go through life without picking up more karma. That is for those who do not know how to dissolve the karma when they attain higher consciousness.

Any way, I do not know if this answers your questions but I could write more on these when I am less busy.

Sorry about the labels . I understand every bit of it but it only raises more questions and elaborations . Especially the part you said that ETs could be playing games , if they are playing games how can we know what is truth and false ? Even people who claim to have attained higher consciousness have conflicting messages . Why would the ETs choose to play games ? How can we tell if the 'Christ consciousness' isn't a game of great deception being played by another ET ? Will life ever end ? Can we know the end of life from the Source ?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:59pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:


So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last prophet? Allah is 3 in one and sacrificed himself unto himself for human salvation abi ? Well done

As Christians we don't believe that God sent Mohammed as his prophet or messenger . And Muslims don't believe that God has a triune nature . Its all about beliefs and perspectives . We all have different beliefs and perspectives of the same thing .

So answer me : Is Jesus the prophet of one God and the son of another God ?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by victor8269: 2:04pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:
Most of your write up is just so nonsensical that I don't know where to begin from. Everything written up there is just empty assertion that makes no sense at all. I will just take one of them and show you that your assertions are false.




This is completely false. How can the pinnacle of moral perfection engage in evil? The bible in some places has God doing evil, and apologizing for his evil deeds.

(Exod. 32:14), “And the Lord repented of the evil [/b]which he thought to do unto his people.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: [b]For I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you
.
Jeremiah 42:10

Why is your God doing evil and repenting? A perfect God that is the pinnacle of morality that goes about doing evil is impossible.

As usual you have come to just expose your self and your weak and ill thought out arguments that make no sense at all.
If you can ask y God is always doing evil and repenting and can quote his scriptures to prove it. That means there is God and you're an evangelist already or how can a non existent being do evil?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:04pm On Jun 19, 2017
felixomor:


Keep writing your own "Neo-koranic" scriptures there grin
U will soon turn to Otem......

You just said Allah is the same God as Yahweh. So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last messenger. Just stating what you've been saying.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by victor8269: 2:05pm On Jun 19, 2017
randomperson:

So the babies of the Egyptians and amalekites that were brutally murdered were guilty of what evil acts?
Sins of their fathers
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:06pm On Jun 19, 2017
victor8269:

If you can ask y God is always doing evil and repenting and can quote his scriptures to prove it. That means there is God and you're an evangelist already or how can a non existent being do evil?
Didn't you read my rejoinder to him? I was just showing him that his arguments make no sense at all. He claimed his God is the pinnacle of morality and I just showed him.that it is false if we are to go by the bible.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by leofab(f): 2:08pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


No . It means you misconstrued it .
why not correct me instead of running in circles!
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 2:11pm On Jun 19, 2017
dalaman:


You just said Allah is the same God as Yahweh. So Yahweh sent Mohammed as his last messenger. Just stating what you've been saying.

If u believe so,
Then so be it unto u.

Some people believe Donald Trump is bad
Some believe he is a good leader.
Doesnt mean they are Talking about 2 Trumps...

There is difference between opinion and facts.
You are entitled to any. cool

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:13pm On Jun 19, 2017
leofab:
why not correct me instead of running in circles!

Which circles ? Abeg shift oo grin

felixomor:


God turned away from the judgement because of the intercession.
Not because the Israelites were right.
I may not be getting the point u are making.

Thanks, same

Sir Felix already answered the question

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 2:13pm On Jun 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:

You are very shameless grin
I'm touched. A mud-roller knows what shame is. Good times.

KingEbukasBlog:

Christianity , Judaism , Islam are called Abrahamic religions because there's the worship of the God of Abraham
The shameless liar strikes again. Your 'wiki' article clearly states why they are called Abrahamic religions.

because they all accept the tradition of a God that revealed himself to the prophet Abraham.
Emphasis on tradition. They accept their ideas of God share a common founder - Abraham. The same way akara and moinoin are made from beans. Akara is not moinmoin. I understand reasoning and logic are not your forte - your big belle influences my culinary analogies. I hope the reasoning sinks in.

Btw, it's interesting that you're drawing up definitions of these Asian gods from a secular source. BOTH Gods have their Word, why not use that for comparison?

If you're not a joke, and if meaningful discussions are really what you desire, KEB, please provide a straight answer to this question. Don't disappoint us, now.

Is the Quran a revelation of the thoughts of Yahweh?


KingEbukasBlog:

Again , use petty sarcasm and insipid humor to avoid understanding this simple knowledge . Go on do it .
Let's stop the mud-slinging.

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