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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:21pm On Nov 29, 2017
PrecisionFx:



I am saying that I wasn't born in Sin or whatever u choose to call it.

That means that you don't have the human nature. A dog will give birth to a dog and a sheep with give birth to a sheep. Our first parents sinned and thereby giving birth to human with a sinful (Adamic nature).
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 8:20pm On Nov 29, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


That means that you don't have the human nature. A dog will give birth to a dog and a sheep with give birth to a sheep. Our first parents sinned and thereby giving birth to human with a sinful (Adamic nature).

I am an igbo man and u and I do not share first parents with u, Ur Caucasian parents Adam n Eve sinned and they gave birth to u and u inherited the sin.


God of the Bible created sin.
U cannot run away from it.
Even in the Bible heaven(a perfect place), Lucifer and his followers fought their Creator in a civil war and they were defeated. There where sent down from heaven into garden of Eden to extend the Bible Gods sins to the Caucasians living in Asia
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:41pm On Jan 10, 2018
PrecisionFx:


I am an igbo man and u and I do not share first parents with u, Ur Caucasian parents Adam n Eve sinned and they gave birth to u and u inherited the sin.


God of the Bible created sin.
U cannot run away from it.
Even in the Bible heaven(a perfect place), Lucifer and his followers fought their Creator in a civil war and they were defeated. There where sent down from heaven into garden of Eden to extend the Bible Gods sins to the Caucasians living in Asia

Who are your first parents? undecided

Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by AntiNormal(m): 11:27pm On Jan 10, 2018
I'm not an atheist... Not yet anyway... I'm just trying to understand... Anyway, I have a question for the Christians and Theists...


God created Adam, and then formed Eve from his rib. Adam and Eve had two sons - Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and was branded a murderer and exiled to the East.
Genesis 3:17 says Cain had sexual relations with his wife...
Who did he marry? Where did she come from? Did God make her too? Or did she just appear out of nowhere with the sole intent to marry a marked murderer and have his babies?

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:52am On Jan 11, 2018
AntiNormal:


I'm not an atheist... Not yet anyway... I'm just trying to understand... Anyway, I have a question for the Christians and Theists...

Fire on. cool

AntiNormal:


God created Adam, and then formed Eve from his rib.

God formed Eve from Adam's side.

AntiNormal:


Adam and Eve had two sons - Cain and Abel.

They actually had more than Cain and Abel. They had other sons and daughters also.

AntiNormal:


Cain killed Abel and was branded a murderer and exiled to the East.
Genesis 3:17 says Cain had sexual relations with his wife...
Who did he marry?

Her name was not mentioned. She became the most popular wife without her named being mentioned.

AntiNormal:


Where did she come from?

She came from Adam and Eve.

AntiNormal:


Did God make her too? Or did she just appear out of nowhere with the sole intent to marry a marked murderer and have his babies?

She was either a sister or niece to Cain.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by pesty100(m): 8:35am On Jan 11, 2018
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=62203519][/quote] technically this is one argument not 3
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:04am On Jan 11, 2018
pesty100:
technically this is one argument not 3

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Omoluabi16(m): 12:34pm On Jan 11, 2018
joe4christ:


If god is infinite as you postulated. Then the question is what has he been doing during the timeframe of infinitum that he only woke up from his slumber and finally realise his loneliness and his need to create the universe and its components and then create earth and its inhabitants. If he only realised this need of his only less than 7000yrs ago according to biblical records of the age of earth existence. Then he simply ain't infinite as you claim or he's just an idle personality with lots of personality issues and clueless too
Why are you joe4christ yet speak such blasphemous words? you would run mad if you ever try to understand God.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Bucky626(m): 1:00pm On Jan 11, 2018
and a designer requires a designer too so it all goes down something came from nothing
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by joe4christ(m): 2:15pm On Jan 11, 2018
Omoluabi16:
Why are you joe4christ yet speak such blasphemous words? you would run mad if you ever try to understand God.

You've been fashioned to think that you cannot fathom God, then you stream under the influence of fear " fear of the unknown" well, I wish you best of luck in your belief!

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 7:03pm On Jan 11, 2018
butterflyl1on:

We KNOW the universe has an origin and we know that a force packed with an infinite amount of energy caused the universe to be (Science has established this).

We also know that THERE IS NOTHING IN EXISTENCE WHICH PACKS AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAUSE THIS.

So if infinite energy was what brought our universe to be yet we do not have this infinite energy available in our material world and we know that our universe began to exist at some point. This means that what caused our universe to exist by the application of energy infinite energy was not part of our universe but impacted it from outside it.
Thank you. And this reached agreement with Newton's First law of motion (Inertial). The external force is as a result of infinite energy in the voice of God when He commanded, 'LET THERE BE LIGHT' and the light came - of course, you call it the Big Bang Theory.

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 7:34pm On Jan 11, 2018
Atheists have a sincerity: they call their doctrines 'theories' i.e. they were postulated by men and were done through observations carried out by the sensory perceptions of men and application of existing laws, but they might not be truly valid in the practical.
But the peril behind their belief is that they agree adamantly that those 'virtual proponents' called theories are systems of truth unchangeable by any external facts and truths beyond the realm of intellects. That is one of the problem of atheists
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 7:51pm On Jan 11, 2018
But the inimical doctrine of a sincere atheist is not 'a belief in the absence of one big powerful Grandpa clothed in thundering white light, sitting on a golden chair with billions of lesser spirit beings bowing down and chanting one strange halleluyah up and down.'
Their belief is bedded in hatred and anger for this said Being. Either because He demands worship from man or because He decided not to show up when they cried to Him for help. Either way, He truly exists and loves you.

The main question: WHO DESIGNED HIM?
If He were designed and His Source is known, He longer remain His hold as a mysterious God. The difference between a 'god' and a man is that 'god' has a dimensional of mesmerizing influence a man do not understand. 'god' understands man in all things but man do not other way round. Simple.

*WHAT HAS HE BEEN DOING BEFORE TIME BEGAN?
-He has company with Him over there - trillions of beings

*WHY DID HE MAKE HIMSELF MYSTERIOUS?
-He is God

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 8:01pm On Jan 11, 2018
Many atheists have questions about the Bible
Just get one, genuinely humble yourself and ask that God to interpret it to you and you will discover an ancient secrets revealed to your heart by a still voice speaking.
In my experience of God and revelation of the Scripture, when you seek God, He comes to say 'Here I am.' He would show you what, at the moment, you should about Him.

Jesus Christ said about His disciples - few of them were literate - that 'Father, Lord of heaven and earth! I thank you because you have shown to the unlearned what you have hidden from the wise and learned. Yes, Father, this was how you were pleased to have it happen' Matthew 11:25-26

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 8:17am On Jan 12, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Who are your first parents? undecided

Unknown to Man.
Each civilization create their own version.

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by AntiNormal(m): 9:06am On Jan 12, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Fire on. cool



God formed Eve from Adam's side.



They actually had more than Cain and Abel. They had other sons and daughters also.



Her name was not mentioned. She became the most popular wife without her named being mentioned.



She came from Adam and Eve.



She was either a sister or niece to Cain.





So, he married his full sister, and had children with her - something God says later on is a sin?
Also, I disagree... The Bible says Adam and Eve had other children (Seth) after Cain was exiled, not before...
Also, if she was truly their daughter, why wasn't she living with them? Why was one of the first women to exist living far from her parents on a world that was for all intents and purposes empty? Remember, women in the Bible lived with their parents until they got married. They didn't strike out and settle far away from home, waiting for people named Cain to come and marry them...
Also, do you even know what a niece is? If she was his niece, then who were her parents? Was one of them related to Adam - who God literally made out of clay? Or was it Eve, who was formed from his rib? Tell me, which one of them had any siblings to give Cain a niece to marry?
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 10:10am On Jan 12, 2018
AntiNormal:

So, he married his full sister, and had children with her - something God says later on is a sin?
Marrying your sibling was permitted at the beginning, for the sake of reproduction and expansion.
AntiNormal:

Also, if she was truly their daughter, why wasn't she living with them? Why was one of the first women to exist living far from her parents on a world that was for all intents and purposes empty? Remember, women in the Bible lived with their parents until they got married. They didn't strike out and settle far away from home, waiting for people named Cain to come and marry them...
They lived for hundreds of years that Adam, Seth and their sons had daughters during the lifetime of Cain, he met one of them. And God didn't intend he would die childless
AntiNormal:
Also, do you even know what a niece is? If she was his niece, then who were her parents?
Already answered
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by ScienceWatch: 1:19pm On Jan 12, 2018
PrecisionFx:


I am an igbo man and u and I do not share first parents with u, Ur Caucasian parents Adam n Eve sinned and they gave birth to u and u inherited the sin.
God of the Bible created sin.
U cannot run away from it.
Even in the Bible heaven(a perfect place), Lucifer and his followers fought their Creator in a civil war and they were defeated. There where sent down from heaven into garden of Eden to extend the Bible Gods sins to the Caucasians living in Asia

Your scientific god has explained why you block higher truths that dont fit into Atheisms stated world agenda.

How do atheists/deists/agnostics,etc use defence mechanisms to deny God or a personal God? Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Sam Harris and others. They are angry and resentful people and shift the blame to other for the problems in their own lives. Now filled with hatred, they invent ideas that trap themselves and others. What follows are what psychologists and psychiatrist believe to be the major ways.
DENIAL: This mechanism is very simple: the atheist/deist simply denies reality and does so with intensity and persistence. There are people who are told by doctors daily that they have a terminal illness. They hear and see many people have been miraculously healed. Their way of coping is to deny that it could be true. Atheists/deist do the same: they intensely and persistently deny that God could exist. They block out the possibility and fight it with all their might.

RATIONALIZATIONS: This is a favourite mechanism of atheists/deist. It is simply the reliance on logical-sounding but false reasons to negate reality. Atheists/deist will offer countless “logical-sounding” reasons why God does not exist, or why atheists/deist cannot accept the existence of God or religion or that miraculous healings are as simple as breathing. They are very creative at doing so, and they specialize in using pedantic language to sound convincing to others and to themselves. They fool themselves that they are of superior intelligence and that they must be correct in their conclusions. In reality, they are simply foolish rationalizers.
How do atheists use defence mechanisms to deny God
REPRESSION: This mechanism entails forcing painful experiences into the sub-conscious unconsciously. The atheist/deist/agnostic who uses this mechanism is not aware of it. All of existence shouts out miraculous, "design." Every little detail in nature offers evidence of the Artist’s miraculous touch. One only has to stop, observe and see that we are not surrounded by the grotesque, but by beauty, unity and miraculous harmony. The atheist mind will not stop and observe and see the connection. If they do stop to look, they will acknowledge the miraculous art -- but not the artist.

SUPPRESSION: Suppression is similar to repression, but with one exception: it is conscious. Science is continually offering evidence of miraculous intricacy and brilliance on the Creator’s part. The concept of miraculous design is daily being reinforced by all the sciences. Accepting the evidence of miraculous design for former atheist, Anthony Flew, may have been painful at first, but he finally accepted the glaring reality. Most atheists/deist will not. They will consciously “reject” the evidence, without any fair and sufficient analysis. And finally exclude God or reject the power of miracles in religion.

DISPLACEMENT: This mechanism has to do with transferring feelings from one deserving object to another undeserving one. As explained above, many Atheists/deists are angry and hurt, because of abuse or mistreatment by authority figures, parents, religious people or religious leaders. In time, they transfer their anger to God who allowed the events that caused their pain to take place. The end result of this mechanism is to abolish/destroy what they see as the ultimate source of their pain: God.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by ScienceWatch: 1:28pm On Jan 12, 2018
olaolutreasure:
Atheists have a sincerity: they call their doctrines 'theories' i.e. they were postulated by men and were done through observations carried out by the sensory perceptions of men and application of existing laws, but they might not be truly valid in the practical.
But the peril behind their belief is that they agree adamantly that those 'virtual proponents' called theories are systems of truth unchangeable by any external facts and truths beyond the realm of intellects. That is one of the problem of atheists

It is indeed. I agree. Corrupt scientists has conned Atheists into believing and worshiping the god of science. Their god is defrauding billions of people out of good health, look at what GMO is doing to our health?

The Atheists god promised health and a cure for serious diseases, but it has fail miserably. Patients suffer at their demonic hands until all their money is up. expensive operations are done without guarantees and no refunds if it fails.

Most operations fail and cause more suffering. The patient has to pay again and again still with out a guarantee or refund. This is the god of Atheism.

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jan 12, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Your scientific god has explained why you block higher truths that dont fit into Atheisms stated world agenda.

How do atheists/deists/agnostics,etc use defence mechanisms to deny God or a personal God? Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Sam Harris and others. They are angry and resentful people and shift the blame to other for the problems in their own lives. Now filled with hatred, they invent ideas that trap themselves and others. What follows are what psychologists and psychiatrist believe to be the major ways.
DENIAL: This mechanism is very simple: the atheist/deist simply denies reality and does so with intensity and persistence. There are people who are told by doctors daily that they have a terminal illness. They hear and see many people have been miraculously healed. Their way of coping is to deny that it could be true. Atheists/deist do the same: they intensely and persistently deny that God could exist. They block out the possibility and fight it with all their might.

RATIONALIZATIONS: This is a favourite mechanism of atheists/deist. It is simply the reliance on logical-sounding but false reasons to negate reality. Atheists/deist will offer countless “logical-sounding” reasons why God does not exist, or why atheists/deist cannot accept the existence of God or religion or that miraculous healings are as simple as breathing. They are very creative at doing so, and they specialize in using pedantic language to sound convincing to others and to themselves. They fool themselves that they are of superior intelligence and that they must be correct in their conclusions. In reality, they are simply foolish rationalizers.
How do atheists use defence mechanisms to deny God
REPRESSION: This mechanism entails forcing painful experiences into the sub-conscious unconsciously. The atheist/deist/agnostic who uses this mechanism is not aware of it. All of existence shouts out miraculous, "design." Every little detail in nature offers evidence of the Artist’s miraculous touch. One only has to stop, observe and see that we are not surrounded by the grotesque, but by beauty, unity and miraculous harmony. The atheist mind will not stop and observe and see the connection. If they do stop to look, they will acknowledge the miraculous art -- but not the artist.

SUPPRESSION: Suppression is similar to repression, but with one exception: it is conscious. Science is continually offering evidence of miraculous intricacy and brilliance on the Creator’s part. The concept of miraculous design is daily being reinforced by all the sciences. Accepting the evidence of miraculous design for former atheist, Anthony Flew, may have been painful at first, but he finally accepted the glaring reality. Most atheists/deist will not. They will consciously “reject” the evidence, without any fair and sufficient analysis. And finally exclude God or reject the power of miracles in religion.

DISPLACEMENT: This mechanism has to do with transferring feelings from one deserving object to another undeserving one. As explained above, many Atheists/deists are angry and hurt, because of abuse or mistreatment by authority figures, parents, religious people or religious leaders. In time, they transfer their anger to God who allowed the events that caused their pain to take place. The end result of this mechanism is to abolish/destroy what they see as the ultimate source of their pain: God.




I couldn't read all.

But Deists do not have a disbelief in God. Please stay with ur European God n stop offering explanations to rope in other people by telling them that they are Atheist.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 12:36am On Jan 13, 2018
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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by joe4christ(m): 7:09am On Jan 13, 2018
What you may term as ultimate supernatural design and uncracked mystery that only the "divine" could know, might actually be a knowledge meant for kids in elementary school or even a general knowledge in other multi verse. For the fact that science does not claim to have answer to all life questions does not give you institutionalized religious body an edge, afterall I'm yet to see any 21st century church who doesn't depend on science to thrive. You don't bit the same finger that feeds you.
Science is in continues search to unravelling life mysteries and expanding its know led he, and so far so good, science has been doing extremely well in their field. But can same be said of all these institutionalized regious body that cannot even survive without science less they go extinct - Pure fact!
Religion has nothing else to offer rather than give its followers hope against "fear of the unknown" (Hell) same technique deviced by them to instill fear into their subject and control their lives for their selfish gain. Only to give them hope by offering them "do's and donts" so they could escape eternal imaginary judgement.
Little wonder why you can no longer differentiate between religious body and commercial activities (Financial institutions) that's cos from the beginning it has always been so, as matter of fact it was originally designed to align in that form.

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 9:17am On Jan 13, 2018
joe4christ:
What you may term as ultimate supernatural design and uncracked mystery that only the "divine" could know, might actually be a knowledge meant for kids in elementary school or even a general knowledge in other multi verse. For the fact that science does not claim to have answer to all life questions does not give you institutionalized religious body an edge, afterall I'm yet to see any 21st century church who doesn't depend on science to thrive. You don't bit the same finger that feeds you.
Science is in continues search to unravelling life mysteries and expanding its know led he, and so far so good, science has been doing extremely well in their field. But can same be said of all these institutionalized regious body that cannot even survive without...
Science, in a lay language, is a body of knowledge built on methodological study of the environment. But error came when it uses the laws of earth and space to judge what brought the laws and lives into existence
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 9:20am On Jan 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:

Unknown to Man. Each civilization create their own version.
No, there's Someone outside the scene declaring them into existence

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 9:31am On Jan 13, 2018
joe4christ:
What you may term as ultimate supernatural design and uncracked mystery that only the "divine" could know, might actually be a knowledge meant for kids in elementary school or even a general knowledge in other multi verse.
'In the beginning, God created the heavens (space) and the earth. While the earth had no special shape (was totally empty), and darkness covered the ocean, and God's Spirit hovered over the water' (Genesis 1:1-2 ERV) Aliens ain't prove that there is multi-verse outside, it implies the reality that God indeed exiled a multitude of beings from heaven and they came down into the heavens (space)
joe4christ:
For the fact that science does not claim to have answer to all life questions does not give you institutionalized religious body an edge, afterall I'm yet to see any 21st century church who doesn't depend on science to thrive. You don't bit the same finger that feeds you.
Bite it if it gives poison
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 10:00am On Jan 13, 2018
olaolutreasure:

No, there's Someone outside the scene declaring them into existence

Explain further.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 10:03am On Jan 13, 2018
olaolutreasure:

Science, in a lay language, is a body of knowledge built on methodological study of the environment. But error came when it uses the laws of earth and space to judge what brought the laws and lives into existence


Religions have a zero knowledge or information on human existence.
Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by olaolutreasure(m): 10:38am On Jan 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:

Religions have a zero knowledge or information on human existence.
Yes, you are right. But the Bible does, and so are those who are believers of it as the word of God - Christians.
In my study of the scriptures, I saw in it prove of:
* Astrology
* Geography
* Biology/Botany/Anatomy
* Music/Entertainment
* Astronomy/Space Study
* Medicine/Surgery
* Civil/Mechanical Engineering
* Fine Art/Architecture
* Law/Government
* Biotechnology
* Criminology/Force
* And many others.
I do not mean their demonstration alone, I meant how they started

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by joe4christ(m): 11:59am On Jan 13, 2018
olaolutreasure:

Science, in a lay language, is a body of knowledge built on methodological study of the environment. But error came when it uses the laws of earth and space to judge what brought the laws and lives into existence

And you think there's no rationale for that? Theism hold on belief without prove, which is merely faith based belief. Science banks on proves and even whenever they hypothesize, its to created room for more research and findings. That's why science keep getting result and keep making the world a better place. Can you tell me how religion has made the world a better place please Cos all I see is the divisiveness orchestrated by religion amongst humanity is all I see

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by joe4christ(m): 12:08pm On Jan 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:


Explain further.

What do you expect him to say, he will eventually narrate how its Jehovah who is the supreme intelligence behind creation. This is so laughable!

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Re: Three Arguments Atheists Hate Most by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jan 13, 2018
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olaolutreasure:

Yes, you are right. But the Bible does, and so are those who are believers of it as the word of God - Christians.
In my study of the scriptures, I saw in it prove of:
* Astrology
* Geography
* Biology/Botany/Anatomy
* Music/Entertainment
* Astronomy/Space Study
* Medicine/Surgery
* Civil/Mechanical Engineering
* Fine Art/Architecture
* Law/Government
* Biotechnology
* Criminology/Force
* And many others.
I do not mean their demonstration alone, I meant how they started


"" But the Bible does""

The bible does not.

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