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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by dondavinchi(m): 5:12pm On Mar 11, 2018
D truth is bitter believe me anybody criticising the JW knows in his mind dat he or she is just been bias lik a bayelsa, does guy r d true Christians I hv study everything abt dem n finally come to the conclusion dat no other Christian body is practising wat jesus wanted from Christian am looking forward to start going to d Kingdom hall. Bt dat should be after bleeping some hot chicken wei I deh high
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Waffarianman(m): 5:17pm On Mar 11, 2018
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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Konye1: 5:22pm On Mar 11, 2018
Lildoks:

You are mostly wrong. They try to find a common ground between the Bible and science. Making it facts. Revealing that things are just discovered by science today have been talked about in the Bible years ago. In fact they criticise science and scientist when the need arises especially in the issue of Evolution theory


Jehovah witnesses do not believe in spirits why?
Simple.. Science can not explain spirituality in its sense.

Jehovah witnesses claims that man is just dust but that is a lie!! Man is spirit he lives in a body and has a soul.


They believe everything must be explained based on evidences not just mere sayings and promises. That in itself is the definition of science; science is knowledge and facts obtained from a careful study.

As a christian, you can not correlate a lot of things based on evidences and facts.. For example ; Jesus feeding 5 thousand men with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes, Jesus being rasied from the dead after 3 days even after being emballmed, Etc

Jehovah witnesses claim the bible only offers comfort not healings and should not be used as a tool for getting rid of sickenesses.. This is very contrary to what the bible says.


In conclusion, you can not be a true christian and based your belief on science and facts.. Because God himself said "BELIEVE FIRST"... Faith believes blindly..

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Waffarianman(m): 5:25pm On Mar 11, 2018
emeijeh:
I will rephrase Redoil's question.....


Are you sure they are true Christians? When massive alcoholic consumption and fornication is their middle name?


Bro b like say u no dem wella, I HV sum in my place of work dey tif chemicals lik mad, I went to visit 1 d oda day na beer n bottle of local gin(ogoro root) I c 4him house. Furnication nai dem last name both Jw bro n sis.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by emeijeh(m): 5:29pm On Mar 11, 2018
Waffarianman:



Bro b like say u no dem wella, I HV sum in my place of work dey tif chemicals lik mad, I went to visit 1 d oda day na beer n bottle of local gin(ogoro root) I c 4him house. Furnication nai dem last name both Jw bro n sis.

Leave those idiots when dey quote me....

I know Wetin I dey talk.

Na only you talk true

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by bahaushe1: 5:29pm On Mar 11, 2018
Miracles actually ended with Prophets and Messengers of God. They alone were given such powers.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by noirsangre(m): 5:37pm On Mar 11, 2018
kalvoken:


Am not a witness (tho' I might be in future), but no one has made you the judge here.

Are you more Christian tha. they are. where in the Bible did Christ/God condemn alcoholics? Didn't Jesus turn water into alcohol?

everything made by God are clean, it's only how you consume them that might be unclean.

God made Marijuana. Can you consume it in any "clean" way?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by ImaIma1(f): 5:59pm On Mar 11, 2018
maximunimpact:
A JW will rather seek the help of witch doctors than pray for miracle. I was once advised by one JW woman to rub some charms in my lips for job interview success and i looked at her astonishingly but said since am not yet a baptized brother that there's nothing wrong with that.

If i didn't have a similar encounter with one, i wouldn't have believed. She was giving her daughter some concoction she got from one traditional healer or herbalist...with restrictions like "do not bath when the sun is out" or "do not eat a certain type of soup or do not take one of the drugs when you are on your period"

This is someone who doesn't miss Sunday and Tuesday study...very very religious with it.

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 6:04pm On Mar 11, 2018
PharmaGirl:
I just got to know of this yesterday.

They believe that the power to perform miracles by Christians ended with the first century Christians.
I'm still surprised.


Jehova witness, Baptist church, Mormon are just churches/Christianity sects created by the United States of America to separate their populace from the religious brainwash of Europe (Catholicism n Anglicanism).


They all don't believe in miracles, they believed it ended with the disciples.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by dudebuck: 6:39pm On Mar 11, 2018
rottennaija:


And yet, why didn't he go to every memorial tomb to raise people up from the dead? Have you not heard stories of people being raised up from the dead today? Because I certainly have
All those stories are FAKE, in a bid to attract customers, sheeple like you.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 7:07pm On Mar 11, 2018
farouk0403:
Jehova witness are the only Christian sect that are close to the right path.






Kiss the truth

when the say its only the 144k that are to pertake of christ blood and body with no biblical backing

when they say theirs no hell fire

when the hate dare neighbours n condem dem to being christendom ( as if they are God) and wear a fake smile d next day to prech to same niebors

when the founder was called a pastor buh the frown at any man being called a pastor

when the founder got most of his bible interpretation from the advientist

whos bible interpretation is 100% human and scholars ideas??( is it not in d very bible it told us to be wery of scholars using dare human ideas to interpret his word)


look leme stop here cos it will take a whole day to bring out the scam d are, my parents are one of them and I use to be too until I stop letting dem brainwash me....imagine threating my dad of taking his eldership just becos I was asking questions and stopped field work cos I cant go out n tell pple tins mysef dont blive

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 7:17pm On Mar 11, 2018
PrecisionFx:



Jehova witness, Baptist church, Mormon are just churches/Christianity sects created by the United States of America to separate their populace from the religious brainwash of Europe (Catholicism n Anglicanism).


They all don't believe in miracles, they believed it ended with the disciples.

so u know their worst enemies are the catholics lol...dont u see why d do everything the opposite the catholics do, d even sayin now the sabath can be any day, looking for a way out of the catholic sunday stuffs.


and about the miracle ending...its from a scribture wher it says tongues,miracles n d rest will come to an end, buh d fail to point out the side dat read it will end whn his kingdom comes (whn its face to face ) if Gods kingdom comes den it ends cos dares no use of it any more ( buh den d wil say it came 1914....lol) whn christ says he himsef dont knw,d use calculator predict am...


jezzz, I wonder hw dis pple fooled me for dat long
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Mar 11, 2018
ImaIma1:


If i didn't have a similar encounter with one, i wouldn't have believed. She was giving her daughter some concoction she got from one traditional healer or herbalist...with restrictions like "do not bath when the sun is out" or "do not eat a certain type of soup or take one of the drugs where you are on your period"

This is someone who doesn't miss Sunday and Tuesday study...very very religious with it.


those guys are the greatest scam abeg...

they do it and say its nature things...

the build churches every where wid mega structure called bethel homes and they will criticise any pastor that builds a church.

they are the most hypocritical sect have ever known.

they see faults in everyone and forget to pray for their own sins, na only dem be d chosen one
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Krisddon: 7:25pm On Mar 11, 2018
SenselessIdiot:
If you believe in miracle then you can believe anything
You're really your name!
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by daamazing(m): 8:01pm On Mar 11, 2018
dondavinchi:
D truth is bitter believe me anybody criticising the JW knows in his mind dat he or she is just been bias lik a bayelsa, does guy r d true Christians I hv study everything abt dem n finally come to the conclusion dat no other Christian body is practising wat jesus wanted from Christian am looking forward to start going to d Kingdom hall. Bt dat should be after bleeping some hot chicken wei I deh high
oh my God grin

Ayamconfidence
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by AyamConfidence(m): 8:05pm On Mar 11, 2018
daamazing:
oh my God grin
Ayamco.nfidence
omoh people plenty ooo
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 9:05pm On Mar 11, 2018
dudebuck:
All those stories are FAKE, in a bid to attract customers, sheeple like you.

You miss the point, which is, even in Jesus days, many doubted his miracle and others accused of it being done with spirit of demon.

So, whether miracle occur or not, real from God or real from Satan, fake or not. There are people that will believe and others that would not.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Harfisco(m): 9:16pm On Mar 11, 2018
because they know its a scam ,no but GOD can perform miracles
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Maximus85(m): 11:58pm On Mar 11, 2018
PharmaGirl:
I just got to know of this yesterday.

They believe that the power to perform miracles by Christians ended with the first century Christians.
I'm still surprised.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

We believe in God's power to deliver his people from danger when it's necessary. But not all these lies from your so called men of god.

Let me ask you, Paul performed miracles. He healed people. But why didn't he heal Timothy his closest associate of his stomach disease?

The miracles performed by Jesus and his disciples are not for publicity. And they don't perform miracles everywhere and all the time. The miracles they perform are to show the power of God.

You can imagine some people saying they pasted a sticker on a gas cylinder and the gas has refused to finish. Or one that drove from Ibadan to Lagos on empty tank. These are stupid lies. And if they actually happen, it's magic which never originated from God but from the Devil. So you need to identify what a Miracle is and what Magic is. It could have been useless had Jesus turned stone to bread. You can't eat stone. If someone turn stone to bread... Will you eat it?

The Church with magic gathers millions of gullible fellows.

Jehovah saves people day by day. Those are miracles, not all this film tricks your pastors are performing. Nollywood actors.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Maximus85(m): 12:03am On Mar 12, 2018
emeijeh:
I will rephrase Redoil's question.....


Are you sure they are true Christians? When massive alcoholic consumption and fornication is their middle name?

We are numbered above 8million all over the world. And before you can say they are all alcoholics and fornicators, you must have seen up to at least 6million of them in these dirty acts. But if you have not, it's better you shut your mouth.

If you know some fake people calling themselves Jehovah's Witnesses and doing these dirty things, don't come in public and say all of them (8million plus) are alcoholics and fornicators. It'll be senseless of you.

Because Judas was bad, will it make any sense to say all the disciples of Jesus are bad? Use your brain if you still have it.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Maximus85(m): 12:11am On Mar 12, 2018
LordKingsley:
Is this what the Bible refers to as 'having a form of godliness but denying its power?'

You need to read that 2 Timothy 3:1-5 for you to understand the power that was mentioned there. No be miracle power.

Thank you.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Maximus85(m): 12:16am On Mar 12, 2018
dogooder:


At the same time, must you people come here to say wrong things about Jehovahs Witnesses every week. What you dont know is that the more you think you are destroying them, the more you are promoting them. Satan himself has not succeeded in silencing JW, not to talk of you nairalanders. Keep on doing it, you are just propagating their names indirectly.

Millions of people got to know Jehovah's Witnesses when they were banned in Russia. So people are like "What is special about these Jehovah's Witnesses that the whole Russian government is against them?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by sagieramos(m): 1:14am On Mar 12, 2018
jade14:


so u know their worst enemies are the catholics lol...dont u see why d do everything the opposite the catholics do, d even sayin now the sabath can be any day, looking for a way out of the catholic sunday stuffs.


and about the miracle ending...its from a scribture wher it says tongues,miracles n d rest will come to an end, buh d fail to point out the side dat read it will end whn his kingdom comes (whn its face to face ) if Gods kingdom comes den it ends cos dares no use of it any more ( buh den d wil say it came 1914....lol) whn christ says he himsef dont knw,d use calculator predict am...


jezzz, I wonder hw dis pple fooled me for dat long

If only you know what you're missing by letting yourself out from among them.
I'm yet to be a publisher, but I can prove to you the supposed believe you have against them to be true both biblically and empirically
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by sagieramos(m): 1:30am On Mar 12, 2018
jade14:



those guys are the greatest scam abeg...

they do it and say its nature things...

the build churches every where wid mega structure called bethel homes and they will criticise any pastor that builds a church.

they are the most hypocritical sect have ever known.

they see faults in everyone and forget to pray for their own sins, na only dem be d chosen one

One obvious different between them and other churches is that they don't force either tithe or first fruit out of you to get their Kindom; Assembly hall or bethel home built, yet they spread the messages of Christ for free with the best quality printing to draw people close to Jehovah. Despite the good work, no one takes credit for it, all glory goes to God.
I remember some churches selling stickers with a G.O and his wife on it
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by ImaIma1(f): 6:38am On Mar 12, 2018
Maximus85:


2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

We believe in God's power to deliver his people from danger when it's necessary. But not all these lies from your so called men of god.

Let me ask you, Paul performed miracles. He healed people. But why didn't he heal Timothy his closest associate of his stomach disease?

The miracles performed by Jesus and his disciples are not for publicity. And they don't perform miracles everywhere and all the time. The miracles they perform are to show the power of God.

You can imagine some people saying they pasted a sticker on a gas cylinder and the gas has refused to finish. Or one that drove from Ibadan to Lagos on empty tank. These are stupid lies. And if they actually happen, it's magic which never originated from God but from the Devil. So you need to identify what a Miracle is and what Magic is. It could have been useless had Jesus turned stone to bread. You can't eat stone. If someone turn stone to bread... Will you eat it?

The Church with magic gathers millions of gullible fellows.

Jehovah saves people day by day. Those are miracles, not all this film tricks your pastors are performing. Nollywood actors.

Why is this "g" in small letter?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by ImaIma1(f): 6:42am On Mar 12, 2018
sagieramos:


One obvious different between them and other churches is that they don't force either tithe or first fruit out of you to get their Kindom; Assembly hall or bethel home built, yet they spread the messages of Christ for free with[b] the best quality printing[/b] to draw people close to Jehovah. Despite the good work, no one takes credit for it, all glory goes to God.
I remember some churches selling stickers with a G.O and his wife on it

They collect money for it stylishly. It is not free
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by dudebuck: 6:56am On Mar 12, 2018
rottennaija:


You miss the point, which is, even in Jesus days, many doubted his miracle and others accused of it being done with spirit of demon.

So, whether miracle occur or not, real from God or real from Satan, fake or not. There are people that will believe and others that would not.
No you are the one who is missing the point. Any pastor that says he or she is from God because he is performing miracles is not realy from God, either it is fake or the source of the power is from another place, definitely not from God, why? The Bible made it clear that the ability to perform powerful works will be done away with. Infact 1 Corinthians 13 made it very clear, that the mark of True Christians is if they have love among themselves, initially powerful works were used to convince people that God was with a particular person, but when the Knowledge is complete, it will no longer feature on the menu, at the time Apostle Paul wrote that letter, Bible was not yet complete, in fact that letter is part of the Bible. One thing true followers of Christ can have among themselves is love, but followers of the devil cannot have love among themselves, even the magic practicing priests of Egypt changed their staff to snakes in imitation of Moses.
John 13: 35 Says "by this all will knkw you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 8:26am On Mar 12, 2018
dudebuck:
No you are the one who is missing the point. Any pastor that says he or she is from God because he is performing miracles is not realy from God, either it is fake or the source of the power is from another place, definitely not from God, why? The Bible made it clear that the ability to perform powerful works will be done away with. Infact 1 Corinthians 13 made it very clear, that the mark of True Christians is if they have love among themselves, initially powerful works were used to convince people that God was with a particular person, but when the Knowledge is complete, it will no longer feature on the menu, at the time Apostle Paul wrote that letter, Bible was not yet complete, in fact that letter is part of the Bible. One thing true followers of Christ can have among themselves is love, but followers of the devil cannot have love among themselves, even the magic practicing priests of Egypt changed their staff to snakes in imitation of Moses.
John 13: 35 Says "by this all will knkw you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.

Be more specific, where exactly in 1 Co 13 says that when the complete Bible comes, that miracles and other spiritual gift will be no more?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MightySparrow: 8:38am On Mar 12, 2018
JW. org. Jehovah is on holiday.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 10:08am On Mar 12, 2018
sagieramos:


One obvious different between them and other churches is that they don't force either tithe or first fruit out of you to get their Kindom; Assembly hall or bethel home built, yet they spread the messages of Christ for free with the best quality printing to draw people close to Jehovah. Despite the good work, no one takes credit for it, all glory goes to God.
I remember some churches selling stickers with a G.O and his wife on it

they dont print money sir,whr do d get all the money from when a church is to be built the giv an announcement to that regard, one dont need to force all u need is play psychology on them and thats what the do...n if u go back in history the church hav been in money scandals n Freud

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 10:32am On Mar 12, 2018
sagieramos:


One obvious different between them and other churches is that they don't force either tithe or first fruit out of you to get their Kindom; Assembly hall or bethel home built, yet they spread the messages of Christ for free with the best quality printing to draw people close to Jehovah. Despite the good work, no one takes credit for it, all glory goes to God.
I remember some churches selling stickers with a G.O and his wife on it

I also remember your pastor ct Russell selling wheat calling it "miracle wheat" at 100x the price, and recall his wife divorced him on grounds you knw..and your pastor and top members used contributions to live luxurious lives to the point of have custom made cars and vacation n party mansions..

and u say pastor Adebayo n co are scam better make research on ur church (oooh sorry, kingdom hall....as if whn Paul,peter and co used the word "church" the whr stupid )
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 10:39am On Mar 12, 2018
rottennaija:


Be more specific, where exactly in 1 Co 13 says that when the complete Bible comes, that miracles and other spiritual gift will be no more?

thats my annoyance with them....they use thier own discretion to complete meanings to bible context

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