bpalace:

Oya, no worry come be dispensing drug till u reach director and boom ... U will still make ur cash though

TempoJames:


browse yayale ahmed comitee . Google is your friend. You will see NMA is boss over all. The other organizations couldn't project a solid point. Infact SLT attacked MLS.

Any SLT or microbiologist working in the hospital lab will know what I am talking about. If at all medical doctors are domineerig over them then it is a payback to what they do to micriobiologists n SLTs

optm:
this bossing over is the major cause of disharmony in d health sector. i just see pure arrogance nd ignorance being exhibited by most nija meds drs nd most of their arguments lacks rational reasoning nd intelligence. u can tell from the post by most of them here

nelszx:


Okay
What's the prejudice with doctors and those who parade themselves as doctors (auxiliaries and charlatans). Why cant they be allowed also at least they know to some reasonable amount things doctors know by virtue of their training?
That would answer the question you asked about MLS, MCB and SLT. Why shout quackery when you don't know a quack from a real professional.

Medical laboratory science isn't studied in Nigeria alone, what you are claiming isn't done anywhere in the world. SLT and microbiologist do not work in any medical laboratory anywhere in the world that has medical laboratory scientist around.
You should be reasonable enough to decipher where SLT fits into SCIENCE LAB. And by the way, everywhere in the world MLS is in charge of Medical microbiology laboratory (hospital based labs) which is a branch of MLS not a microbiology lab (SLT works there) which can be seen in science department.

Do you know Wikipedia isn't a reliable site to get genuine information from. Aside Wikipedia, show me where such aberration happens. Even countries where pathologists exist, they (pathologist) don't enter the lab but are in their specialised clinics.

P.S: which country does such hierarchy exist?
And did you know before Yayale Ahmed recommendation there was also a recommendation report from Alhaji Bello Gusau? Find that report and let's make comparison.

Amarabae:
This thread still de. Lol

danilmo:


lol

we dey o, getting joy and catching fun,

Happy Sunday,

TempoJames:

You guys haven't seen anything yet. The same way you guys oppress the microbiologists and SLTs Doctors will keep on being on top of your heads.
Retards!
You ask for liberation when you guys are chief oppressors.
If so then microbiologists(B.sc) should be head of microbiology department and head you guys so that we know job description is perfectly defined. Nonsense!

danilmo:


haaaaaa, even ur pharm D lecturers will b laughing at u or rather I guess ure still in year1 , they don give u hope say no worry, u can also act like a doctor with ur oharm D certificate aside surgery..

am still in year 3 and am sure I gat knowledge of human body more than u , u get luck am not in path and pharm class yet.. yan yan tan..

but still, let's discuss basic knowledge,



1.

An accident victim was rushed to ur shop with saliva dropping out from his mouth , whitish fluid was also seen coming out from his ear,

pharm D, tell us how u ll help this,


2. A student fell from a tree , his right arm was dislocated, he complained of unclear vision after few minute, rushed to ur shop, what could av caused that and how will u correct this

3.
A patient all of a sudden stated having metacapophalangeal joint getting flexed uncontrollable, with deep and long breath as he was rushed to ur shop/pharm shop,

how will u help out immediately ..

4.

a lady complain of infraumbilica pain, cleared she is in her secretory phase of menstrual cycle, so not menstrual pain, what ll u be thinking next in ur mind


5.. oyani at least u should chew this one,
UR brotherwith sign of busted pimples just beneath his nasal nares complained of headaches, blurred vision, restlessness
what and what should come to ur mind,
don't fall my hand o, u should get this, and how will u advise him thereafter..

I give u my drill, am expecting urs. let's start..

optm:
pls b reasonable. try to b objective rather dan allowing emotions/sentiment becloud ur sense of reasoning. i dnt wrk in d lab nd i do nt knw whts goin on there. i m speaking up against d oppression by med drs on the career growth of other health professionals as it also affects me and negatively impacts d nigerian health sector which is unarguably evident

TempoJames:

You guys haven't seen anything yet. The same way you guys oppress the microbiologists and SLTs Doctors will keep on being on top of your heads.
Retards!
You ask for liberation when you guys are chief oppressors.
If so then microbiologists(B.sc) should be head of microbiology department and head you guys so that we know job description is perfectly defined. Nonsense!

theuniqueone:
I had 8maintained a silent position since the onset of current Johesu strike but I am worried by the sing song of many johesu members on how they save patients from doctors. It is unfortunate that the tail is now wagging the dog in the health sector of this country. I had a personal experience with a pharmacist while working in Bornue state. She came to my health facility on a UNICEF sponsored program and during our introduction, she flew off the handle when issue of doctors other hetheh workers relationship came up . She boasted about how she had saved many patients from doctors and how doctors are close to useless. It was so bad that I have to give up on her rants. Fortunately for me and unfortunate for her, a young girl was brought to me and what caught my attention was that the child was in severe respiratory distress with severe noisy breathing. I quietly passed the patient to my "almighty" patient saving pharmacist to save the patient.
For more than 5minutes, she was as confused as the patient's relatives and I have to ask her to returned the patient to me for review and urgent resuscitation and the patient made a very wonderful recovery. The next day , while the patient was on follow up, I now called the "almighty" pharmacist to have a look at the patient. She was shell shocked as the respiratory distress had disappeared, noisy breathing resolved and she was playing on her own. I then remained her that what she just saw is how we doctors kill our patients.
It is rather sad that johesu elements now see themselves as the movers of the health system in Nigeria. A perfect example of having a form of doctors' knowledge and denying the power in it which is true , total knowledge of the patient.
Yes, we doctors kill our patients when we do exp lap for perforated viscus and patients recover after a turbulent post op because patient can not afford ICU care. Yes we kill our patients with multiple small bowel atresia mostly preterm babies nursed post op without parental nutrition because it was not available and the parents could not afford it. It was with a sense of immense joy that we discharge these patients after a turbulent post op complicated by malnutrition. That is another example of how we day kill our patients.
Yes we kill our patients when they present unconscious with seizures at the children emergency and their guardians can not afford basic investigation and we tidy over the storm with clinical knowledge knowing that a CT scan could had made life more easier. Yes we kill our patients who after their fractures have been complicated by the traditional bone setters with resultant mal unions, non union and chronic osteomyelitis present to us and we have to do corrective surgery sometimes in a non air-conditioned theatre with good results. The number of ways doctors kill their patients are so innumerable. Even johesu elements still present themselves to the patient killing Nigerian doctors even during this strike. I also let them know that it is immoral since we are killers and they are the patient saviours.
For those that rant that it is just 1 year dq

Jman06:
B.Sc microbiology graduates are not trained to work in the medical laboratory setting. There are ethical issues involved when you talk about microbiology as a science and microbiology in the medical laboratory. A medical lab scientist who specializes in medical microbiology understands the ethical concerns in the medical laboratory as it relates to hospitals or clinics and is better qualified to work there.

B.Sc microbiology graduates should have nothing to do in the medical labs! They are trained to research and teach microbiology in universities and research institutions after studying up to msc and phd levels.
This applies also to pharmacology, biochemistry and other biological science graduates.
I think prospective students of these courses should be well informed about what they are being trained for while in school so that they can proceed with msc and phd after service and not start wasting time in search of unavailable jobs.

theuniqueone:
I had maintained a silent position since the onset of current Johesu strike but I am worried by the sing song of many johesu members on how they save patients from doctors. It is unfortunate that the tail is now wagging the dog in the health sector of this country. I had a personal experience with a pharmacist while working in Bornue state. She came to my health facility on a UNICEF sponsored program and during our introduction, she flew off the handle when issue of doctors other hetheh workers relationship came up . She boasted about how she had saved many patients from doctors and how doctors are close to useless. It was so bad that I have to give up on her rants. Fortunately for me and unfortunate for her, a young girl was brought to me and what caught my attention was that the child was in severe respiratory distress with severe noisy breathing. I quietly passed the patient to my "almighty" patient saving pharmacist to save the patient.
For more than 5minutes, she was as confused as the patient's relatives and I have to ask her to returned the patient to me for review and urgent resuscitation and the patient made a very wonderful recovery. The next day , while the patient was on follow up, I now called the "almighty" pharmacist to have a look at the patient. She was shell shocked as the respiratory distress had disappeared, noisy breathing resolved and she was playing on her own. I then remained her that what she just saw is how we doctors kill our patients.
It is rather sad that johesu elements now see themselves as the movers of the health system in Nigeria. A perfect example of having a form of doctors' knowledge and denying the power in it which is true , total knowledge of the patient.
Yes, we doctors kill our patients when we do exp lap for perforated viscus and patients recover after a turbulent post op because patient can not afford ICU care. Yes we kill our patients with multiple small bowel atresia mostly preterm babies nursed post op without parental nutrition because it was not available and the parents could not afford it. It was with a sense of immense joy that we discharge these patients after a turbulent post op complicated by malnutrition. That is another example of how we day kill our patients.
Yes we kill our patients when they present unconscious with seizures at the children emergency and their guardians can not afford basic investigation and we tidy over the storm with clinical knowledge knowing that a CT scan could had made life more easier. Yes we kill our patients who after their fractures have been complicated by the traditional bone setters with resultant mal unions, non union and chronic osteomyelitis present to us and we have to do corrective surgery sometimes in a non air-conditioned theatre with good results. The number of ways doctors kill their patients are so innumerable. Even johesu elements still present themselves to the patient killing Nigerian doctors even during this strike. I also let them know that it is immoral since we are killers and they are the patient saviours.
For those that rant that it is just 1 year difference between medical doctors and other graduates in the health field, the truth is while your total course load for 5 year programme as stated by NUC is between
250 - 280 units, MBBS program is more than 700 unit load and if MBBS is a conventional program, 10 years will not be enough to complete it.
Please Nigerians to whom much is expected from, much must be given and this is the true meaning of equity.

TempoJames:


I appluad this. There would be no issue if that heirachy is maintained. Sure a medlab scientist knows more than a microbiologist so as a doctor knows more than a medlab scientist. But you guys don't want to maintain that fact. So if there should be a change then the system should be reversed totally. Let the novice be the head! Let the microbiologist and SlT head the laboratory!

Jman06:
The problem here is that you seem not to understand your area of competence as a medical doctor. Your area of competence as a med doctor is definitely not in the medical laboratory! So, why claiming that you know more than a med lab scientist
Your bringing in BSc microbiology graduates into this argument simply betrayed your acclaimed knowledge of the medical laboratory. Ain't you people ashamed of exposing your ignorance in public

AlphaT1:

As a seasoned public servant, my heart bleeds whenever I read what you young ones with no experience come to social media to post. I am not a member of JOHESU but look at this objectively, a fresh medical officer enters the public service at grade level (GL)12 while pharmacist and lab sci enter on GL 10, nurse on GL 8....how can these salaries be the same? doctor's call duty allowance is 4% of his basic salary while pharmacist's call duty is 2% of his basic salary...now how can 4% of GL 12 be same with 2% of GL 10? Nurses collect shift duty allowance, how can a meagre shift duty allowance of GL 8 be the same with 4% of GL 12?
A medical officer who enters on GL 12 as resident and becomes a fellow after 4 or 6yrs is upgraded to GL 15 ..it takes a pharmacist minimum of 12 yrs to get to GL 15 and nurse minimum of 18 yrs to get to GL 15. NMA is really not helping the Nigerian health sector.

TempoJames:


Talks like a real novice go and browse workers and the head of department in med laboratory in Hopkins Hospital and other standard hospitals in the world.
Microbiologists and SLT work in a standard medical laboratory and pathologists are the head.Boy!

funmisticqueen:
that is a lie

nelszx:


In which country now?
Don't just quote from the air, show and give me links where this is done and we'd put this to rest. I'm not arguing with you