jpphilips:



You believe a Nigerian invasion will implode sub-saharan Africa with refugees but you don't believe that terrorists taking control of Nigeria's most populous areas streched deep into the Sahel will produce the same effect?

Are north east Nigerians not refugees already in Cameroon & Benin republic? Add North west to it and tell us if you haven't imploded already.
The refugee spread isn't gonna spread down south neither will the insurgency for very obvious reasons.
It doesn't mean that iSWAP at one time or the other wont strike startegic targets for propaganda and morale boosting.

Im not talking about an "Assad must go" kinda invasion no!! Its the invasion that permits them to freely operate on Nigerian soil as an occupying force, that will open the flood gates of weapon testing, battle field scenario studies and Nigerians will become the ultimate collateral damage.

Several interests are at stake first is China's growing influence in Africa taking out IMF and world bank market shares with his more attractive Exim bank loans by implication owning most of African infrastructure.

Chinese & Russian arms sales to African countries, chinese incursion into African resource fields hitherto controlled by the west.
The vast resources of the Gulf of guinea which America feels presently their companies don't have the lion's share.
A US naval fleet in the Gulf of Guinea will be very strategic to their interests, especially in supporting Indian Ocean operations and elsewhere.

The day most of you cheering this mess will get the priviledge of sitting on that table where Nigeria's fate is decided, it will dawn on you that the annihilation of a Nigerian Battalion is nothing by consequences when Iswap drives around with our trucks in the eyes of the West.

Nigeria has officially been notified, the media blacked it out, we hurriedly retooled the NNSBS for the job, few months later, ISWAP took their patrol boats, do you sincerely think that incident won't have consequences?

As at today, the west view Nigeria as a supplier of manpower, tools & equipments to terrorists like Iran was called the central bank of terror landing it in her 4th round of security council sanctions, despite having the support of 2 members on that table, Nigeria has no-one on that table and you still doubt me?

France has already made it explicitly clear to Nigeria that her inactions is destabilizing his babies Niger, Cameroon and Chad and must do something about it, the negotiation window is as good as shut, our military 3 wise men are now scratching their heads how to convince the CIC to reopen negotiations, apparently CIC will be in Paris before this year runs out,
Iranian revolutionary guards just landed on US foreign terror list, guest who is next??
you have no idea what is coming.

timmykaydude:
Aremz, how far, lets travel together. Drop your contact
Nicheey:did you applied?

SLBMS:
For years I wrote dozens of articles on an invasion of Nigeria. I wrote about why Nigeria is being surrounded by military bases. You laughed me to scorn. Some called me a deluded francophob with twisted ideas. It's happening now and it's too late to stop it.

timmykaydude:
Aremz, how far, lets travel together. Drop your contact
Nicheey:did you applied?

Sizzorkay:
@SBLM, it's all due to poor leadership, one would think a serious Govt would be making headlines about that and how they don't want it around their territory, but of course, we like to bend over backwards for these western countries, yet they are reluctant to sell us serious hardware.
Compare the arms they sell to North African countries to Sub-Saharan African countries, the disparity is glaring, it's like we are being treated as kids because our leaders are useless and not serious.
Anyways,

How many times have you seen AQIM in the Sinai driving around in Egyptian military trucks, or wielding their SF rifle as it is almost becoming customary with Nigeria? There are processes these procurement pass through, there are several considerations, if you add Human rights infractions into the mix, NA does not meet a single criteria for serious arms transfer, our Airforce used to be the image maker till Rann bombing. make no mistakes, your Tucano is coming stripped so dont get too excited about it except a miracle happens, I read someone suggesting burantai will be sold Gatling guns if the real one fires at 2000 rpm, yours will fire at 20rpm. These hawks don't fvck around.

I am sorry to say it,but your submissions should be dismissed as mere hollywood fantasy. It would make for a good novel,but won't fly in reality.

You claim that the west views Nigeria as a supplier of arms to terrorists in the region,yet Trump's State Department has approved the sale of highly weaponized Tucanos to the Nigerian Airforce, the NN got three new ships from France last year or so, and we have been purchasing small arms(including rifles, grenades etc) from Western allies like Poland, Ukraine and Israel,among so many other packages. Do you think the west would supply weapons of any kind to a country they perceive to be a major donor to terrorists?.

To hell with France, we don't care what they think. Weren't they the ones who masterminded the bombing of Tripoli that led to the fall of Libya and cascade of arms to renegade groups and militias in the Sahel?. If they care so much about their francophone puppets,they should deploy more legionnaires to aid them; our neighbors are a very big part of the problem anyway,they aided and abetted BH initially,and ISWAP/BH still recruits heavily from Chad,Niger and Cameroon. In politics and war,every action has consequences,and inaction itself is an action.

Acquiring friends in the UNSC has never been a problem for Nigeria, however,we have chosen to retain diplomatic balance and be everybody's friend,which I find perfectly sensible. However,that position can be reversed if we are faced by aggression from any side.

Ultimately,I think you are just raising unnecessary alarm. BH will not proliferate beyond it's current area of influence,and sooner or later,they will be decimated into oblivion.

jpphilips:


Nothing to apologise for, life is a choice!!





Have you bothered to find out why your Tucano is delaying? since the Rann bombing, can you beat your chest in confidence that you are gonna nail another Tucano type deal in this lifetime? dont answer it.
here is the thing pal, the world work differently, selling little arms to you makes no difference because your money oil the wheels of their economy. Libya and Iraq got so much military and civilian support from the same people that destroyed them, thats is the decoy that paint them in good light, you hear sentences like "we did all we could but Nigeria refused to be responsible bla bla bla bla bla"




It is irresponsible to say to "hell with France" considering her role in global politics, let me quickly refresh your memory, after the ICJ judgement in Hague, OBJ never wanted to honour the green tree agreement, he wanted to use the same Abacha gra-gra posture till that faithful evening when the Elsse palace intl hotline buzzed Aso-rock, haven waited for Nigeria to announce a date to no avail, immediately after that 27 mins call, OBj's countenance was no longer the same, like a flash of lightning he called the then governor of cross river state and said " Donald, we have agreed on a date"
you dont want to lead a country when a superior power threatens it.
Ask Donald duke, he told this story himself at the 60th birthday lecture in honour of Justice Charles Archibong (rtd) held in Lagos in 2013.
I dont know how you see your country but out there on the global round table, Nigeria is a mere pawn in the chess game of the gods!!
Don't push your luck too far.





You know this because you have read our diplomatic playbook or what? stop tossing around rough guesses where you are supposed to be factual, our playbook is empty, Nigeria plays along the interest of those that can ruin her, that's ABC of diplomacy in Nigeria if you have been opportuned to sit there.
Nigeria is more loyal to China and Saudi arabia than any western country today largely because Saudi offers "protection" from the growing fans of iranian intelligence in Kaduna while China is the money man!!

No nation is a friend to everyone because interests are diverse, in 2015 when your budget deficit was more than 2T naira, Christine Lagarde was here to secure a commitment that IMF will play a major role in financing that deficit, Nigeria ran to the Chinese Exim bank to fund it because they lured us with a better deal, have you forgotten that IMF, world bank and other Bretton Woods are personal properties of world powers? You expect them to give you a standing ovation and remain friends?





Save this thread, I gave you my word, if nothing is done about these arms gift to BHT, in the nearest future, you will hear on your radio about US drone strike in Konduga and Bauchi, it will be so normal like suicide become part of us.
The worst that will happen is we protest in Abuja like Pakis in Karachi.

mekussa:
http://saharareporters.com/2019/06/18/breaking-boko-haram-razes-military-base-borno-kills-5-soldiers-steals-weapons


Boko haram acting like the Nigerian army is their Quartermaster

jpphilips:



You believe a Nigerian invasion will implode sub-saharan Africa with refugees but you don't believe that terrorists taking control of Nigeria's most populous areas streched deep into the Sahel will produce the same effect?
You seem not to know that Nigeria aiding ISWAP/BHT has destabilized Africa already? Sainai is almost going, Sahel is gone, Lower Sahel is gone, Lake Chad is bye-bye, the horn of Africa is gone what is left of africa?
Have you sat for a second to think whose interest Africa serve? you think the answer is Nigeria and Nigerians, or Cameroon that has no economic independence from France, or Chad whose annual budget is approved in a tea room in Ellse palace after their politicians and so called financial experts are done monkeying about?

Are north east Nigerians not refugees already in Cameroon & Benin republic? Add North west to it and tell us if you haven't imploded already.
The refugee spread isn't gonna spread down south neither will the insurgency for very obvious reasons.
It doesn't mean that iSWAP at some point won't strike strategic targets down south for propaganda and morale boosting.

Im not talking about an "Assad must go" kinda invasion no!! Its the invasion that permits them to freely operate on Nigerian soil as an occupying force, that will open the flood gates of weapon testing, battlefield scenario studies and Nigerians will become the ultimate collateral damage.

Several interests are at stake first is China's growing influence in Africa taking out IMF and world bank market shares with his more attractive Exim bank loans by implication, owning most of African infrastructure.

Chinese & Russian arms sales to African countries, chinese incursion into African resource fields hitherto controlled by the west.
The vast resources of the Gulf of guinea which America feels presently their companies don't have the lion's share.
A US naval fleet in the Gulf of Guinea will be very strategic to their interests, especially in supporting Indian Ocean operations and elsewhere.

The day most of you cheering this mess will have the privilege of sitting on that table where Nigeria's fate is decided, it will dawn on you that the annihilation of a Nigerian Battalion is nothing by consequences when Iswap drives around with our trucks in the eyes of the West.

Nigeria has officially been notified, the media blacked it out, we hurriedly retooled the NNSBS for the job, few months later, ISWAP took their patrol boats, do you sincerely think that incident won't have consequences?

As at today, the west view Nigeria as a supplier of manpower, tools & equipments to terrorists like Iran was called the central bank of terror landing it in her 4th round of security council sanctions, despite having the support of 2 members on that table, Nigeria has no-one on that table and you still doubt me?

France has already made it explicitly clear to Nigeria that her inactions is destabilizing his babies Niger, Cameroon and Chad and must do something about it, the negotiation window is as good as shut, our military 3 wise men are now scratching their heads how to convince the CIC to reopen negotiations, apparently CIC will be in Paris before this year runs out,
Iranian revolutionary guards just landed on US foreign terror list, guest who is next??
you have no idea what is coming.

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kikuyu:

I've been following the BH thing from the get go and imo,you haven't seen the French hand. They're behind it all!

GeneralFarouq:

U are not rational at all... Speaking in emotions rather than intellectuality....advocate of disintegration... Well lucky u, citizienship by birth cannot be atken away from guys like u.... Other wise the govt should send u to a " working country"... hope u know u can get a car to Ghana Look at u... Completely honourless... Creating confusion , when real men, whether Igbo, Yorubas and Hausa-Fulani are there defending their country with their lives... You are sitting safe at Ur home typing nonsenses.......
Well it is real that defend pussies like u so enjoy Ur privilege

jpphilips:


Nothing to apologise for, life is a choice!!





Have you bothered to find out why your Tucano is delaying? since the Rann bombing, can you beat your chest in confidence that you are gonna nail another Tucano type deal in this lifetime? dont answer it.
here is the thing pal, the world work differently, selling little arms to you makes no difference because your money oil the wheels of their economy. Libya and Iraq got so much military and civilian support from the same people that destroyed them, thats is the decoy that paint them in good light, you hear sentences like "we did all we could but Nigeria refused to be responsible bla bla bla bla bla"




It is irresponsible to say to "hell with France" considering her role in global politics, let me quickly refresh your memory, after the ICJ judgement in Hague, OBJ never wanted to honour the green tree agreement, he wanted to use the same Abacha gra-gra posture till that faithful evening when the Elsse palace intl hotline buzzed Aso-rock, haven waited for Nigeria to announce a date to no avail, immediately after that 27 mins call, OBj's countenance was no longer the same, like a flash of lightning he called the then governor of cross river state and said " Donald, we have agreed on a date"
you dont want to lead a country when a superior power threatens it.
Ask Donald duke, he told this story himself at the 60th birthday lecture in honour of Ju5stice Charles Archibong (rtd) held in Lagos in 2013.

Have you forgotten so soon that your MNJTF was reinvigorated under this government after a trip to Elesse palace, why did Chad, Niger & Cameroon not agree immediately till PMB went to France?

What is the difference between what I proposed and the MNJTF? France backed Chad, Niger and Cameroon are having a field day in your backyard but that's ok, but when I suggest a Chinese MNJTF for arms recovery, everyone becomes uncomfortable undermining the importance of what is about to come.

I dont know how you see our country but out there on the global round table, Nigeria is a mere pawn in the chess game of the gods!!
Don't push your luck too far.





You know this because you have read our diplomatic playbook or what? stop tossing around rough guesses where you are supposed to be factual, our playbook is empty, Nigeria plays along the interest of those that can ruin her, that's ABC of diplomacy in Nigeria if you have been opportuned to sit there.
Nigeria is more loyal to China and Saudi arabia than any western country today largely because Saudi offers "protection" from the growing fans of iranian intelligence in Kaduna while China is the money man!!

No nation is a friend to everyone because interests are diverse, in 2015 when your budget deficit was more than 2T naira, Christine Lagarde was here to secure a commitment that IMF will play a major role in financing that deficit, Nigeria ran to the Chinese Exim bank to fund it because they lured us with a better deal, have you forgotten that IMF, world bank and other Bretton Woods are personal properties of world powers? You expect them to give you a standing ovation and remain friends?





Save this thread, I gave you my word, if nothing is done about these arms gift to BHT, in the nearest future, you will hear on your radio about US drone strike in Konduga and Bauchi, it will be so normal like suicide become part of us.
The worst that will happen is we protest in Abuja like Pakis in Karachi.

Litmus:



Makes sense since Nigeria appears under a 4-prong attack. An Arab agenda would focus primarily on that whole terrorism/religion gig; therefore, Bokoharam, Iswap with future scope for escalating attacks on Nigeria, being those issues brewing in Mali, the liberty to increase attacks on christian churches and Nigerias own simmering and unresolved Shia issue (perceived or actual persecution of the Shia community and the imprisonment of Ibrahim Zakzaky).

A BiafrA (IPOB) ( agenda would focus on sowing unrest in the East, with further scope for escalating problems for Nigeria in Delta state. I do not believe IPOB is behind majority the smear Nigeria campaign and ethic stoking.

A four-pronged attack - as Nigeria appears currently undergoing - makes sense from the point of view of a Western lead initiative to either destroy Nigeria (for whatever reasons) or keep her impoverished, needy and uninfluential. West are experienced in long term planning, masters of Chess to our Drafts. The 4-pronged attack appears: (1) the military engagements Nigeria is currently experiencing in the NE, (2) attacks on farmers in order to create famine situation (3) Ethnic conflict stoking evident to an extraordinary scale online with every issue concerning Nigeria, from fashion to Football (the later, a renowned unifying force concertedly challenged now by inexplicable ethnic stoking). The creation of Radio stations to facilitate and compound those ethic issuers. And (4) Tarnishing Nigeria as exemplified by unfathomable statistics and constant barrage of negative news such as Nigerians criminality abroad.

And there’s the uncanny convenience of the thing: meaning the known origin of Bokoharam as well as the known tendency for certain Arab states to fund terrorism; the known age old farmer-herders clashes in Nigeria; the known Biafra war, all conveniently can be brought up to explain these conflicts and issues highlighted above and thus hide the clandestine hand of the West. You`d blame IPOB for stoking ethnic hatred and smearing Nigeria as is the rage to an unprecedented level now; blame the age old communities tensions and occasional classhes in the Central Belt for the suspiciously targeted farmers , blame the fighting in the NE, which is generating huge displaced populations as well as damaging economic outlook and insecurity for Nigeria on Terrorism etc etc. Why you"d even blame your military for all the set backs and not the West that probably provides the Terrorists that work for them vital intelligence because of the token attacks carried out in Niger, Cameroon and Chad, every now and then, and whoes occasionalness and relative insignificance you put down to the effectiveness of Chadian and Cameroonian armies as opposed to ours.

and, no, even if capacity not occupied by different spheres of national interests, Russian, Chinese and especially British intelligence would divulge nothing to our intelligence people what they may know of French activities in undermining African Nations.

Odunayaw:
Months after today/yesterday y'all will still come and excrete same tensions.

EVarn:
Fear mongering is not sound logic.


On the Bakassi issue, Nigeria erred by going to the international court in the first place. What Abacha would have done is to pull out of the ICJ,and flood the place with military presence. But Obasanjo going to the ICJ meant he had to abide by it's judgement; any attempt to go against the decision would have been viewed as aggression and rightfully so.

We ceded that region based on a 1913 agreement between Britian and Germany, in essence,the court made its decision based on colonial documents. How can a territory that is occupied majorly by Nigerians and has benefitted from Nigerian government policies be termed Cameroonian territory?. France wouldn't have brazenly issued threats if we hadn't gone to court and lost,the best they would have done was to arm and fund their puppet regime. Even President Buhari once alluded to the fact that we shouldn't have followed Cameroon to the Hague.

You are just stringing events together to paint a gloomy picture. Nobody is invading or bombing Nigeria anytime soon. Nigeria wasn't bombed when BH had about 22 local governments in Borno and Yobe flying the obsidian flag of jihad, is it now that they have been relegated to hit-and-run attacks that we'll be bombed?.

jpphilips:



Young man, you are speaking from a position of deficient knowledge, Nigeria did not institute the ICJ case over Bakassi, it came to all of us in bewilderment when Cameroon did on the 29th of March 1994 at the direction of France to secure a global justification to teach Nigeria a bitter lesson over the well positioned ECOMOG influence in the West African sub-region and gulf of guinea by extension.

Could Nigeria have pulled out of the ICJ under OBJ? That wasn't the norm in the 90's, less likely under OBJ at a time Nigeria was struggling to pull out from strings of intl kinks.
Permit me to enjoy the pictures in peace, we have derailed the thread enough, I have spoken more than necessary, do have a great evening.

EVarn:
I respect that you have a very vivid imagination,a skill that would definitely come in handy if you were to venture into the movie industry.

Let me reiterate that I never said Nigeria instituted the case,I said Nigeria shouldn't have agreed to be a party to the case. In case you don't know,it isn't mandatory to appear before the ICJ for a case, a country can choose to dismiss such charges or pull out of the court at any time.

A good evening to you too.

Blue3k:


I half agree with you. Nigeria was under no obligation to subject its sovereignty to the court. Cameroon did initiate case as wikipedia says. Relinquishing our sovereignty over this was a weak move by Nigeria. Im just assuming they didnt want war with france backing its Cameroon.

Who knows if Nigeria wouldn't have xome out stronger after a war. At least they would have to take security architecture seriously. If they dont it would have been crushing loss.

krattoss:
because u ve had bad experience or because some people have had bad experience doesn't make the whole country a failed state.

My uncle was robbed with same pos by street gangsters in Leeds UK... Does that make UK a failed state?

Nowhere in the world is 100% safe even the USA of this world still experience environmental hazards like gang wars and race cards.

That few states in Nigeria experiences insurgency and security abnormalities doesn't make the whole Nigeria failed State.

I guess u might want to recheck ur dictionary on the meaning of 'failed state"

snrman:
I think I will Unfollow this thread kids have hijacked it.
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Imagine praying for war
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Anytime boko haram score small points they come here to masturbate.....

snrman:
I think I will Unfollow this thread kids have hijacked it.
.
Imagine praying for war
.
Anytime boko haram score small points they come here to masturbate.....