fellis:
Are the men themselves virgins?
What I don't understand is why men that are not virgins insist that women should be virgins before they will be able to marry them. The hypocrisy of some men is legendary.

cap28:

Sagamite:

Do men demand women have to approach them? Why would women demand men have to be the one to approach them?

fellis:

Sagamite has some serious acrobatic skills.

fellis:

So it is okay for the man to be a hypocrite because society expects him to be the one chasing the woman?

luizworld:
Lol. No time

Sagamite:

Do men demand women have to approach them? Why would women demand men have to be the one to approach them?

Sagamite:

Does that answer my question?

Is it not hypocritical (by your terms) to demand men approach you when you wouldn't approach men?

cap28:

That is the convention that men and women have been following for years and that is the way normal society works - unless you want to tell me that your mum approached your dad and instigated their relationship - come to think of it, knowing my experiences with your mum that may well have been the case

fellis:

See, many women myself including he he he, would like to chase guys that they like, but societal conditioning makes it seem like women that go after men are whores or are shameless. The consensus among the majority is that men are meant to chase women and to seek their hand in marriage form their fathers and to take them to the alter and all that.
This way of thinking is what prevents women form being able to make the first moves and that is why they want men to ask them instead.

kalufelix: u claim u dont knw the meanin of the ID yet u rephrased to smth dat is more suitable 4 yhu because p-square actually sang 'chop ma moni' nat 'chop ur moni'
by the way who spelt it 4 u without tellin u the meanin or did psquare sing the song with subtitle
mayb nat spelt correctly but dat statement contains 2 english words or is it the corrupt english(chop) dat u dont undastand

LIAR!!

Sagamite:
So you come up with moronic excuses.
So what of the fact that evolutionary conditioning makes men seek a woman that only wants them and hence their spermatozoa does not have to compete?

And it is not consensus among majority that women should be chaste?

Cut the moronic feminist crap. This is not your bf cap28 you are debating with. I take no prisoners.
You talk about hypocrisy but yet you rant about one rule for women and another for men.

fellis:

@bold,
When wiegraf mentioned this matter on the other thread he stated that the guy who proposed this theory was only postulating, he didn't say that there was conclusive evidence that men used to seek only women that want them. If you have found a site with conclusive evidence than please post the link.

fellis:
The consensus among majority should be that everyone should be chaste; both men and women. Asking that women maintain their chastity while men do whtever they please is just wrong and hypocritical and we should not support hypocrisy regardless of whether society approves of it or not.


I wasn't saying it is a rule for women, I was just saying that women act that way because of what society says.
I never said it is right or that it is the way we should all live.

ChopUrMoni: Have you ever played hide and seek? If you have, then you know that once the person has been found by the finder its not the end of the game. The person found must run and the finder would have to pursue until they have caught them. Then and only then is the the game over.

I have noticed a trend among a lot of men. They have become so lazy that they do not bother chasing the girl they love. The saying "ah... its just a girl, they are many more out there" and "she's playing hard to get, i cant be bothered and she's not the only beautiful girl out there anyway" have become so popular among men especially black men.

What happened to the value of chasing a woman? Why has it become so worthless and looked down upon. Would men of today have survived many years ago. Men in those days didn't complain when they pursued the girl they loved, in many cases suffered in the hands of the girls family and then paid a massive amount to have her as his wife. Today it's a lot easier yet men are not willing or should I say are too lazy to pursue the woman of their dreams. Oh i forgot... there are too many fishes in sea. Why bother right?

Men, we love to be pursued and conquered by you. Why do you all think the stories of Cinderella, Snow white, Rapunzel and the like are so loved by girls? They all had one thing in common. A prince who not only found them but also fought for them. Trust me we love to be chased and caught by you.

If you are not serious with the girl then don't bother. But, if you do love her don't allow you friends to push you to get over her after she has rejected you twice. Try a little harder than twice. I noticed white guys have always chased me fervently. But when it comes to black men, even though they profess to loving me so deeply they don't bother if i don't respond to them after a specific time. If any race of man on earth should know how to pursue a woman fervently until he captures her it should be a black man because thats what you fathers and grand fathers did. It's in your DNA So now, what are you waiting for? Get started!

fellis:

Religion has thought men to believe that they are superior to women. . .

1920MaMa:

you mean you expect a guy to pursue a lady for 1yr in this generation where 7 women are holding unto one man to marry them? if you see a man that has all the qualities you desire in a man, why play hard to get? wat if you loose him in the process? on the other hand, if a guy does not meet your standard, why waste his time? until we realize that not all relationships must end in marriage, we still have a long way to go, relationship-wise.

1920MaMa:

you mean you expect a guy to pursue a lady for 1yr in this generation where 7 women are holding unto one man to marry them? if you see a man that has all the qualities you desire in a man, why play hard to get? wat if you loose him in the process? on the other hand, if a guy does not meet your standard, why waste his time? until we realize that not all relationships must end in marriage, we still have a long way to go, relationship-wise.

ChopUrMoni: Why do you all think the stories of Cinderella, Snow white, Rapunzel and the like are so loved by girls? They all had one thing in common. A prince who not only found them but also fought for them. Trust me we love to be chased and caught by you...

on a good day:
when a girl is worth chasing, she would be chased...how can can one be chasing a girl for a while only for him to learn that mr A,B and C has slept with her b4...imagine the disapointment
i chased my girl for about three years while in school, she is 25 now, a pharmacist and still a virgin. Up till now i never regreted chasing her, because she was worth the chase

on a good day:
when a girl is worth chasing, she would be chased...how can can one be chasing a girl for a while only for him to learn that mr A,B and C has slept with her b4...imagine the disapointment
i chased my girl for about three years while in school, she is 25 now, a pharmacist and still a virgin. Up till now i never regreted chasing her, because she was worth the chase

caesaraba: Isn't it obvious? Just chase after success and the girls chase after you. Strategy devised by men who have seen so much nonsense in the course of pursuing women.

pleep: I think its possible to get really really angry at Nigerian women in general without ever being emotionally hurt by one in real life. This forum alone turned me from a dude who used to 'praise black women' into a man who absolutely detests them. lol, the worst ppl on Nairaland are all black women.

As for what cap28 was saying, it has some truth to it but its not the rule. The worst i have ever been 'hurt' by a women was being put in the friend-zone in highschool. I haven't been put through the tribulations most of these other men have. The key factor is information, when you look at the dating scene with a developed sense of logic and reasoning skills it will annoy you. Any intelligent man looking at this post should be angry, in the OP's mind its ok for multiple men to show her love with gifts and money while she disregards their feelings and emotions. Basically she wants us to treat her like a diamond while she treats us like dirt. Does that seem fair to you?

Thats the problem with manginas, they have a female belief system and thought process while still having masculine chivalry. That is how blatantly unfair laws like the child support system got passed

and cap28, have you ever wondered why so many of our Nigerian brothers are angry? I bet ur single mother never told you that

kalufelix: u claim u dont knw the meanin of the ID yet u rephrased to smth dat is more suitable 4 yhu because p-square actually sang 'chop ma moni' nat 'chop ur moni'
by the way who spelt it 4 u without tellin u the meanin or did psquare sing the song with subtitle
mayb nat spelt correctly but dat statement contains 2 english words or is it the corrupt english(chop) dat u dont undastand

LIAR!!

freecocoa: And this your comment is supposed to insinuate what exactly?