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beryledibor:
Gaza didn't belong to Israel from time memorial. It's belongs to old time Philistines.

Entering thru Gaza would have been more shorter though. Maybe the Philistines were not soft targets then

From time immemorial?
what was philistine called before?
when did the first migrants settle in philistine?
what was isreal called before?
Answer these questions yourself and please try to be objective.

nairalee:
I just don't know how fraudsters live with themselves. U destroy people's lives and plan to have a beautiful life for yourself.

I dey tell you.
I'll rather go through the stress of making it legitimately than the trauma that comes with it.

God1000:
Palestinian people also have the right to defend themselves, not just Israel.

Stop this one-sided narrative, 75 years of oppression and occupation of Palestinian lands is also a terrorism.

Denying people the right to exist is a crime against humanity.

Life did not start 75yrs ago please, false and half baked information and history is largely part of what is fuelling this hatred.
How about 4000yrs ago from the land of Canaan(isreal) that Abraham (Ibrahim) finally settled in having left Ur(Iraq),who was actually a Jew.
The first set of migrants in southern Canaan(Gaza inclusive) did not even settle there until a millennium,1000yrs after Canaan had been existing.
Isreali kingdom only came about in Abraham's third generation.
Just take a good look at those ancient maps of isreal and see the tiny piece of land they are left with today and you call them occupiers?
Or you people don't want them to exist at all?
I just don't understand.
How has Israel been denying them right to exist when isreal is directly responsible for over 30% of their entire labour force with a minimum wage of $1500 dollars?
And to have the luxury and time to build those sophisticated tunnels without stress.
To me hamas was in full control of their territory.
If you talk about the strict security measures by isreal in the west bank you should also talk about the sporadic gun and knife attacks, kidnappings and abductions,suicide bombing attacks against isrealis if you want to be fair.

F117nighthawk:
That's why he can never be the president,to u he is sane,but to many he is not,even with the comments he made here,if it was his own family that were butchered and killed like animals,I wonder what he would have done to Harmas to retaliate

I'll keep emphasising it.Evil resides within the heart of a man and always show forth with time.
How can you not see anything wrong with October 7 terrorist attacks and see everything wrong with isreal's reaction?
Hamas should just throw in towel if they love their people or else Isreal will teach them a lesson they will never forget.
They can as well continue fighting at the detriment of their own people.
What has Hamas achieved since October 7?
Just grief and sorrow for both isrealis and Palestinians.
Evil people who were celebrating on Oct 7 are now forming victims.

Babalola0920:
You only Google things without any proper follow up you mention that the name Philistine wasn't Palestine and yoi agree I comprise of Territory. According to Joshua 13:3 and 1 Samuel 6:17, the land of the Philistines, called Philistia, was a pentapolis in the southwestern Levant comprising the five city-states of Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, and Gath, from Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north, but with no fixed border to the east ...


Pls where are the cities located ?
If wasn't Palestine....

All located in canaan of which philistine is at it's southern part.Isreal fought wars thousands of years ago to conquer all those territories.
Which follow up are you expecting?
How can you expect us to be having a conversation when you are telling me today's Palestine is philistine.
Let's even agree for a minute that you are right. Tell me of any known historical recordings of Palestine in medieval times?
Secondly if you insist where isreal is today is Palestine can you please tell us where the old isreali kingdom is located?
One thing i would just like you to know is that events changes a lot of things with time.
You can as well enlighten me by answering the questions i highlighted.

NOwazobia:
Why you are a staunch supporter of Iran.


What is the difference between slaves having two different masters as some of you often puts it as slavery when one is supporting the west?

They are very manipulative and deceptive.

Greenfaces:
What have I written here that you don't believe? I'm in the north. Can you site a single Christian stronghold you know in the north that has been sacked and replaced with Muslims? The entire terrorism burden you hear about in the north is 99% shouldered by Northern Muslims. This is an underground battle of dominance between fulani and hausa if you are unaware. I can send you documents to back up this fact. And in the same north east; yobe, Maiduguri, you find christians who are more Christian than you in the south whose only understanding of Christianity is hate for others. They live there in peace. I have stayed in villages like bama, pulka, gwoza, and I can tell you first hand that you have a very skewed information on what happens in the north


Back to the isreali Palestine thing. Go and look at the old maps before 1948. Then read the ruling of the international Court about the ownership of gaza strip. Take particular notes on why the jews planted gold mines underground farms and places of interest while leaving gaza in accordance to international Court ruling, then sip another cup of your ogogoro and see just how alcohol plays the role of a barricade between you and truth

You can keep on deceiving yourselves
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/nigeria-s-silent-slaughter-62-000-christians-murdered-since-2000#:~:text=Since%202000%2C%2062%2C000%20Christians%20in,ISWAP)%2C%20and%20Fulani%20militias.
We should all learn to tolerate one another that's my take irrespective of our political or religious differences.
Times have changed and nobody is an infidel.
Back to isreali/Palestine conflict .
If the war continues,i can tell its the Palestinians that will lose more going forward.
Best thing for them is to end all hostilities against isreal,concessions on both sides and move on.
Wiping out the state isreal is a dream that can never come fruition in these modern times.
That's the only TRUTH starring you all in the eyes.

Babalola0920:
Glad you took your time and twist the name.
When did the name palestine emerge ?

But israel name doesn't change
So is egypt
So is syria and they're all neighbours!
But Palestinian name change
Fyi all those name you mentions including israel are part of the state of philistine
Glad you didn't say it was philipine

Also islam has never force it religion on people.
Since you know so much about history you shouldn't forget the crusaders ?

So what was the mission of crusaders in comparison to forceful eviction and conversion of peoples faith?
You are just trying to mix up issues,that's all I can sense here.
The bone of contention here is philistine same as Palestine?
If all you can deduce is that Palestine is philistine, then there is just no point engaging you any further.

Greenfaces:
You're just repeating the stories shared by drunks in beer parlours. Who wants to wipe out isreal? Who even gave them an abode after ww2 in the first place. Why did Britain not locat an isolated island in Europe to reward this same Jews for fighting their battles for them? You want to know why? It's because they knew the real nature's of the jews. Same with Hitler. He seemed to have had a better foresight in the long run than the Palestinians who welcomed them to their lands. Anyone who harbours the Jews will pay dearly for it. This is what history says not me[

That's the real beer parlour assertion right there.
Just because Islamic terrorism have overrun some Christian villages in the North,after some time you would say they ever never existed claiming to give them shelter if they ever chose to return.
From the middle east,you actually want them to be relocated to an island.
You can just see the type of person you are.

Greenfaces:
You guys have always allowed hatred come inbetween you and your sense of what is just. It's either you do this or you don't have any senses at all.

You don't need to resort to insults when someone differs in their line of thought 💭 from yours.
Well,you with all the sense should know where the hatred lies when someone makes it an obligation to wipe out the Jewish state of isreal.
And you are talking about what is just, please don't make me laugh abeg.

mikeapollo:
Even if the whole world recognize the so called ''Palestinian'' state, let them go and have their state on their own land. Judea and Samaria belong to Israel, It does not matter if some people deceive themselves by calling it West Bank or East Bank. It is Judea and Samaria

I dey tell you.
These arab Muslims are so deceptive and can lie for the whole world.
Just look at the tiny piece of land that is left of the old isreali kingdom.
They still have the guts to call isreal land grabbers.
If isrealis are truly the occupation,which Jewish temple in Jerusalem did nebuchadnezzar destroy?
Which isrealis did egyptian pharoahs enslave?
Which jews and christians did the ottoman empire exterminate,killed,displaced and forced off their land?
Them no just want make Isreal dey.
Evil people,later they will claim some people are brainwashed.
The Era of infidels is long gone.
Live and let's live.
Palestine will exist as well as isreal but first they should renounce terrorism!

Babalola0920:
You can confirm the first question if Palestine is philistine?
No country called israel but a state in Palestine until jews people were forced in to occupied the state under pretext of holocaust survival.

You only succeeded in evading the simple and direct questions I asked you probably because you have no genuine answers.
I quite understand you,at least you didn't resort to insults.
It's because of that I'm responding to you.
Palestine is not philistine or philistia.
Philistine is made up five towns Ashkelon,Ekron,Ashod, Gaza and Gath.
This is history dating back about 4 thousand years ago.
Nothing like Palestine was mentioned in those times.
If you carefully study ancient maps and history you would realise the kingdom of isreal extends into both Syria of today and Jordan, not that tiny piece they are left with today.
Wars,enslavement,antisemitism,migration and displacement of jews from the Egyptians,Romans,ottoman,Germans may have displaced them because they were weak but I don't think it's true and fair to say they never existed in the middle east.
I know events overtime changes a lot of things with time but are you aware of the genocide against jews and christians in the 7th century by the ottoman empire that actually spread islam throughout the middle east aside it's colonisation of the region.
Killing people,gradual extermination and displacement of people and forced conversion to islam would force people to flee their homes.
These are some of the worst crimes against mankind so you know.

Babalola0920:
75year since state of Israel was impose on land of Palestine even in the Bible there's land of philistines

Is philistine Palestine?
Since isreal was imposed on Palestinian land,kindly tell were isreal is located on the map.
Let's learn from you.

CrownedPhoenix:
After I read you post the below in bold, I will no longer engage you.

Lol
Was just gonna tell you,"you are way too sound for some kind of engagements".
It's like you don't know that guy.

siraj1402:
You must be a dense one for thinking the terrorist Israel will win this war. So with all the support of the west, Israel is yet to rescue a single hostage for more than 6 months of the war. Shame on you and your likes.

Did you just say isreal has not rescued a single hostage?
Don't tell me you are not kidding, only then will i understand.

WriterNig:
Huh?

So CNN is now Russian propaganda? Wonders shall never end

So you now believe CNN too? Truly wonders shall continue to happen.
Even if USA and the west works primarily for their interests, it's an insult on our collective sense of reasoning that it is putin that is defending/fighting for we AFRICANS.
Like how na?
So slobodan milosevic,rodovan karadsic,ratko mladic that killed over 7000 bosnians just because they were muslims and were tried and convicted by the ICC are also Africans abi?
You try no be small.

olayinka63:
'Eighty years ago, the Jewish people were totally defenseless against our enemies. Those days are over. Now the Jewish people have a state and we have an army to defend our state.'

Eighty years ago equivalent to 1944. This is confirming they didn't have anywhere to reside then and the US and their allies created space for them at Palestine They have a state now meaning, they didn't have any state as at 1944..land grabbers, you will also meet your Waterloo

If you claim isrealis are not from the middle east, you can also do well by telling us where they actually originated from, so we can also learn from you.
Even the dead (egyptian pharoahs) that enslaved the jews about 4 thousand years ago are also witnesses to the fact of their existence in the middle east.
You are trying to play smart but if we begin dig up history and you actually want to be honest,you would realize that the ottoman empire that colonized and spread islam throughout the middle east committed some of the worst crimes in the history of mankind.
Starting from that landing grabbing,to genocidal killings of jews and christians, to gradual extermination and displacement of minority tribes and so on.

God1000:
ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu for war crimes over October 7 attack and Gaza war


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCXbDtbGRUI

ICC trying to making sense for the first time on this conflict.
How can you not see anything bad with the October 7 terrorist attacks on isreal but see everything bad in isreal's reaction.

Kaiser20:
Helicopter Crashes in USA is normal, but a Helicopter Crashe in other country is Not normal

Don't mind those terrorist apologist trying to hate on the USA.
Majority of those crashes posted by that embittered fellow are mostly as a result of routine training errors ( which is inevitable) or training their pilots in perfecting manoeuvres and improving on their skills.
It is normal in training of any kind, even less hazardous profession like singing takes 3,4 or more studio sessions to perfect their lines.

Bobloco:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/05/irans-president-foreign-minister-7-others-killed-in-helicopter-crash/amp/

Let's all try to be good to one another irrespective of our obvious differences on issues,be it religious,political or any other,it doesn't worth the time, energy and resources we alot to it in the end.
I want to wipe out the Jewish state of isreal,I want to wipe out isreal!
You don't even know what will become of you, the isreal and palestine relationship tomorrow.
Nothing progressive comes out of fighting.
Only creates enmity and hatred.
I hope they find PEACE ✌in the end.

bukatyne:
@ bold:

Did he ever strike you as a honest person? 🤔

It's only fair you give everyone a benefit of doubt.
But on this,he is more guilty than he'll ever be perceived to be.

Oga you are not sorry at all because you very recently denied every accusation by the lady in question.
That shows you are a dishonest person.
You are just pretending to be because of the overwhelming video evidence.

Oga you are not sorry at all because you very recently denied every accusation by the lady in question.
That shows you are dishonest person.
You are just pretending to be because of overwhelming video evidence.

CountinBlessins:
Go to school Una no go gre. Kai is os dead .

It's a dead os so even if you got the original why I earth would your waste your money ?

So person wey type all that grammar up 👆 there no go school to you?
He Probably got swindled for some other reasons.

TylerPerry:
Tell me which ARAB country has joined SA, even Egyptians were not protesting until Israel close the boarder they were allowing terrorists through, to have sweet time. I have a big issue with ALJEERA'S REPORTAGE. You see the camera men following terrorists, when they're killed they bring it to mainstream media for publicity stunt and gather sympathy. Logically, is it possible for Israel to just be killing civilians? Before, I almost fell for their propaganda. Away from that, that war must stop o, just because of the innocent. The main reason I love Tinubu's administration is that the top sympathizers in Nigeria haven't even eaten enough to pay some *jokers* to start protest for Palestinians. Guess they're all indulging in a strength-draining-agbado-munching exercise.

They are free to keep on deceiving themselves,not everyone will fall for their deception.Gaza has a population of over 2.8 million people,the way they keep abusing the word genocide, you would think isreal has recklessly wiped out more than half of their entire population since it declared war on HAMAS about 8 months ago.
All they want is a WAR without fatalities.I have never heard of such in history.With time they will all face reality.

udemzyudex:
Lol

So what are we saying, I said US is China biggest market, they make more money from selling to US.

They benefit more from US than China to US that's why US is trying to increase their tariffs on China product entering the country.

This is not the first time, it already happened during Trump first term, and Trump said he will increase it again if he is re-elected.

China makes more money from selling to US.

You are very correct with your analysis in simple economic terms.
once there is a negative bias against something ,it tends to becloud ones sense of rational judgement.
the spender,depending on the size of spending directly creates steady jobs for the sellers economy.

GanagiBitrus:
Is this march for the interest of the people of Rivers State, or for their selfish political interests?

If it is the latter, they should all go to hell.

Very important question before you side with any Nigerian 🇳🇬 politician.
Afterall they have all been wining and dining together all these while at the detriment of the masses.
So the question is, what really changed?

Rebuke:
But I am just seeing it for the first time and I am sure there are others just seeing it for the first time too.

Me too.
What's recycled news to you may be news to me.

TouchNfollow:
https://saharareporters.com/2024/05/10/uk-based-nigerian-self-styled-prophet-oluronbi-jailed-34-years-raping-female-male-church

I'm so much digusted when people commit baleful evils and use God as an excuse.
Why do i feel the sentencing wasn't even enough.

Empiree:
Africans with zionist brain. You have been Israeled

So what's the sense in what you posted?
Because i only know one senseless person on this forum.
Except of course it's one of your alternate monikers.

jahsharon:
Israel cannot fight Togo or Chad alone if USA is not fighting for Israel

Lol

Are you serious or just kidding?

Cacasentiano2:
I have this to say,,the whole world is in support of what Israel is doing to Arabs who came into Israel from neighbouring countries (Egypt and Syria) to reside in Israel,by killing and sending the Arabs and Muslims out of the land of Israel.The Muslims are found of migrating and grabbing people's land and imposing Islam on the indigenous people.
Arabs and Islam has many countries in middle East,all the countries that surrounded ISRAEL are Arabs and Muslims, still you Muslims will not allow JEWS to have their own country,as SMALL as Israel is,you are still trying to occupy Israel land, trying to occupy the HOLY LAND of JEWS and CHRISTIANITY. Meanwhile in your HOLY LAND in Saudi Arabia and Iran,you don't accept any other religion than islam, nobody is disturbing Muslim there,you even impose law of death penalty and killing to any citizen of Saudi or Iran that changes RELIGION.But you can go to another people religious sites and homes to cause problem, claiming you want a Palestinian state to be given to Arabs and Muslims.To me, Israelites are too libral,if I am the one,by now,I would have sent all Arabs and Muslims in GAZA and WEST BANK into Extinction.Isreal believes in Palestine, what they are seeing is not Palestinians, what they are seeing are Arabs and Muslims,when the time COMES,the REAL Palestinians scattered around the world will come back home to take their place,thank you

You have raised some very important points but those on the other side of the divide wants us to see things through their lens alone.
There was a genocidal killings of christians and Jews in 7th century by this same Arab Muslims who colonised the middle east in their quest to Islamize the entire region.