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Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 4:20pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: The person who makes me laugh the most on here is woky. He hasnt said any meaningful thing here. He's just following the catholic train without ticket.woky, where is the book of ezra found in d bible?hahahahahahaha laff wan tearr my belle here o! |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 4:20pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: The person who makes me laugh the most on here is woky. He hasnt said any meaningful thing here. He's just following the catholic train without ticket.woky, where is the book of ezra found in d bible?hahahahahahaha laff wan tearr my belle here o! |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 4:25pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: @mavister. Thank u for that exposition. It goes to prove that u are thoroughly grounded in the word of God. Via Google kjv edition |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Ukutsgp(m): 4:29pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: The person who makes me laugh the most on here is woky. He hasnt said any meaningful thing here. He's just following the catholic train without ticket.woky, where is the book of ezra found in d bible?he is just doing follow follow. Nothing upstairs. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 4:34pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: hahahhaha we both are saying the same thing. The rev. Never gave me audience. Hope ur not confused? u just repeated what i said in a re-phrased sentence. You misunderstood the priests body language, he isn't supposed to be rude to you so he did the best he could to convey the message that YOU wanted to WASTE his precious time But he TACTFULLY didn't INDULGE you while ACTUALLY making you feel like you were making sense. I'm sure he must have had laugh with his fellow revs right after you left him alone |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 4:36pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: he is just doing follow follow. Nothing upstairs.Lol ukuts means goat in togo.. I dnt blame u.. Mango! |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by unongu(m): 4:38pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: Praying repetitive words using Rosary beads is forbidden.Your historical account on how the rosary emanated is hogwash... The Rosary, in descriptive term, is a simple praying tool made of beads and string, which helps the Catholics to remember God. About 90% of the Rosary is directly from the Bible. If you say your Rosary daily and meditate on its mysteries, it will bring down many graces from heaven to you. It will strengthen you to overcome temptation, and to grow holy. It will lead you straight to heaven, and away from the devil. Habitual sin will no longer be a part of your life. The following are Bible passages that Catholics meditate on during the Rosary: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you (Luke 1:28) Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a, Luke 1:48) And Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b) Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43) Pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen. (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5). The Joyful Mysteries (Mon & Sat) 1st Decade: The Annunciation of Gabriel to Mary (Luke 1:26-38) 2nd Decade: The Visitation of Mary to Elizabeth (Luke 1:39-56) 3rd Decade: The Birth of Our Lord (Luke 2:1-21) 4th Decade: The Presentation of Our Lord (Luke 2:22-38) 5th Decade: The finding of Our Lord in the Temple (Luke 2:41-52) The Luminous Mysteries (Thurs) 1st Decade: The Baptism of Our Lord in River Jordan (Matt 3:13-16) 2nd Decade: The Wedding at Cana, when Christ Manifested Himself (Jn 2:1-11) 3rd Decade: The proclamation of the Kingdom of God (Mk 1:14-15) 4th Decade: The Transfiguration of Our Lord (Matt 17:1- 5th Decade: The Last Supper, when Our Lord gave us the Holy Eucharist (Matt 26) The Sorrowful Mysteries (Tues & Fri) 1st Decade: The Agony of Our Lord in the Garden (Matt 26:36-56) 2nd Decade: Our Lord is Scourged at the Pillar (Matt 27:26) 3rd Decade: Our Lord is Crowned with Thorns (Matt 27:27-31) 4th Decade: Our Lord carries the Cross to Calvary (Matt 27:32) 5th Decade: The Crucifixion of Our Lord (Matt 27:33-56) The Glorious Mysteries (Wed & Sun) 1st Decade: The Glorious Resurrection of Our Lord (John 20:1-29) 2nd Decade: The Ascension of Our Lord (Luke 24:36-53) 3rd Decade: The Descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (Acts 2:1-41) 4th Decade: The Assumption of Mary into Heaven (Sg 2:2, 10-11) 5th Decade: The Coronation of Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth (Rev 12:1) (Luke 8:21) (Gal 4:19) (Cor 4:17) (Gn 3:15a) (Sir 24:4) (Jdt 13:18, & 15:9). The vocal part of the Rosary has prayers straight to Jesus. Even the “Hail Mary” is not a prayer to Mary. The Catechism calls it the ‘Marian Prayer’ because we are asking Mary to pray for us. She is interceding on our behalf. As we can see Rosary has its roots from the Bible. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by unongu(m): 4:49pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Mrlouis: " Systematic Murder of Believers--The Untold History of the Inquisition" (this article is written by a former Roman Catholic priest). It is said thatduring the approximately 600 years of the Roman Catholic Inquisition, tens of millions of Christians were tortured and murdered.Why the killing spree? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to her heresies. "Side benefits" included taking the material wealth of her victims and showing the pope's power terrorizing people and keeping them in line believing Romish superstitions and heresies.Roman Catholic agents have tortured, crippled, burned, murdered, mutilated, and imprisioned millions of Christians. Rome's inquisitors hunted down Christians and had whole towns and cities wiped out, murdered.Whatever happened to love your enemies (ref. Matthew 5:44)?A look at papal decrees and letters reveals that the Inquisition was carried outunder the instigation and authority of the popes of Rome(e.g. Pope Innocent IV's 1252 A.D. bull, "Ad Extirpanda" which gives laws and commands "To root up from the midst of Christian people the weed of heretical wickedness." Law 4 instructs the "twelve upright and Catholic men" et al (of Law 3) as follows-- "Those...appointed may and should seize the heretical men and women and carry off their possessions and cause these to be carried off by others...".The office of the Inquisition has only changed its name--according to wikipedia, it was "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition" and it is now called "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" (CDF) (Congregatio pro Doctrina Fidei).Maybe you should mention the name of the "former" Roman Catholic Priest that wrote the article... I hope you are not referring to the "Davinci Code", where the writer, Dan Brown used his novel to misinterpret the nature and scope of the Inquisition to the extent of suggesting that During the Witchcraft Inquisition, the Catholic Church killed five million women who were branded witches but were actually freethinkers, scholars, nature lovers, mystics, priestesses, midwives and gypsies. For the records, both men and women were targeted as witches and the deaths were no more than a hundred thousand! The Inquisition was intended to find people who were outwardly claiming to be Christians but secretly practicing other religions such as anti-messianic Judaism, Islam, or Albigensianism (two-god religion). The Inquisition was an attempt to protect the purity of the Christian Community. It should be pointed out that the Protestant Christians had a counter-inquisition that killed hundreds of thousands of Catholics. Thousands of Catholics were killed in England alone after the reformation struck there. Countries like Ireland, and American Colonies followed in the killing of Catholics. In fact, the name, John Calvin, became popular for the burning of Catholics at the stake. Do more research bro. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 4:51pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
unongu: Your historical account on how the rosary emanated is hogwash... The Rosary, in descriptive term, is a simple praying tool made of beads and string, which helps the Catholics to remember God. About 90% of the Rosary is directly from the Bible. If you say your Rosary daily and meditate on its mysteries, it will bring down many graces from heaven to you. It will strengthen you to overcome temptation, and to grow holy. It will lead you straight to heaven, and away from the devil. Habitual sin will no longer be a part of your life. The following are Bible passages that Catholics meditate on during the Rosary: Ohhhh! Don't indulge them na Let them keep steaming I'm sure the GOOGLE LOVER is scanning through his numerous TABS to formulate a reply to this post right now |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 4:52pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
unongu: It is not stated anywhere in the Bible that only adults should be baptized. Non-Catholics state that the act of baptism is a waste because the infant is not capable of knowing what is happening and has not yet received the Lord as their Savior. Let us take a look at the Jewish infants that were being circumcised. Did these infants know that at the moment they were being circumcised, they were making a covenant with God? There is no validity to the non-Catholic claim that only adults should be baptized. Apostle Paul shows us a parallel between circumcision and baptism in the book of Colossians 2:11-12, when he stated thus: “In whom also you are circumcised with circumcision not made by hand, in despoiling of the body of the flesh, but in the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, in whom also you are risen again by the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him up from the dead.”i am going to really enlighten you on this your post. Now let me ask you this. You were clever enough not to include 'the art of baptism' and by this i mean why ur stance is not on baptism by immersion. Besides that bible passage you quoted, did paul say 'i sprinkled water on the children there'' pls answer accordingly. Thanks and God bless |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by unongu(m): 4:54pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: thanks for attempting the questions. Let me clarify youThe question has been well answered... un-tailor your understanding... free yourself and allow reality to sink. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 4:56pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
unongu: Maybe you should mention the name of the "former" Roman Catholic Priest that wrote the article... I hope you are not referring to the "Davinci Code", where the writer, Dan Brown used his novel to misinterpret the nature and scope of the Inquisition to the extent of suggesting that During the Witchcraft Inquisition, the Catholic Church killed five million women who were branded witches but were actually freethinkers, scholars, nature lovers, mystics, priestesses, midwives and gypsies. For the records, both men and women were targeted as witches and the deaths were no more than a hundred thousand! The Inquisition was intended to find people who were outwardly claiming to be Christians but secretly practicing other religions such as anti-messianic Judaism, Islam, or Albigensianism (two-god religion). The Inquisition was an attempt to protect the purity of the Christian Community. Bros please stop stop stop stop stop You are murdering them |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 4:57pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
woky: Lolwhile woky means?? |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 5:01pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
unongu: The question has been well answered..yes bro. Thanks for agreeing to the fact that i have answered it correctly. God bless |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 5:05pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: i am going to really enlighten you on this your post. Now let me ask you this. You were clever enough not to include 'the art of baptism' and by this i mean why ur stance is not on baptism by immersion. Besides that bible passage you quoted, did paul say 'i sprinkled water on the children there'' pls answer accordingly. Thanks and God bless Which one be "I sprinkle water" again? BAPTISM is BAPTISM Bros..... That is ehhn... YOU NO JUST GET YARN! |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Conner44: 5:13pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: yes bro. Thanks for agreeing to the fact that i have answered it correctly. God bless Answered what correctly? See how you are shamelessly trying to waive the answer he gave you Must you copy and paste? Even in your posts I see statements like "click on photo for high resolution", must you try to copy even the images too? Na wao ohhhhhhh! And some people here actually think you are versed in the scriptures. Na your type of pastor go dey take iPad dey preach for pulpit with Google open ontop am CHANGE YOUR WAYS, FACE YOUR CHURCH, PRAY TO GOD, READ YOUR BIBLE, GET A JOB and stop questioning what is obviously bigger than you |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 5:17pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Conner44:really? Baptism is baptism? Who says so ? You or the bible .i really need your reply on this |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 5:19pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Conner44:hahhahahah really? See bro. Dont take things so personal. U have been given the chance to prove your doctrine HOWEVER you want. So stop attacking me bro. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mavister(m): 5:24pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Woky Are you there oga? |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 5:40pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
unongu: Your historical account on how the rosary emanated is hogwash... The Rosary, in descriptive term, is a simple praying tool made of beads and string, which helps the Catholics to remember God. About 90% of the Rosary is directly from the Bible. If you say your Rosary daily and meditate on its mysteries, it will bring down many graces from heaven to you. It will strengthen you to overcome temptation, and to grow holy. It will lead you straight to heaven, and away from the devil. Habitual sin will no longer be a part of your life.this guy must be a confused fellow. Can u tell us now how ur ''bead'' (rosary) emanated? What kind of grace does it give you? Imagine him saying '' it will lead you straight to heaven'' lies lies lies. Without holiness no man SHALL see the lord. No wonder i left the catholic church. These lies were so much for me to handle. No scriptural backing to worsen things. I hope God opens your eyes somday. Amen |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 5:43pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Conner44:that is irrelivant. Besides the same google is open for you to use. Still u havent made any meaningful input hia. Just making silly noise ever since. Bro proove your doctrine! That is what we want. I believe u can read |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 6:19pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
mavister: while woky means??Ask me again |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 6:33pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Conner44:exactly the main reason why i dnt wnt to answer them.. Very annoyin set of pple! They jst want you to aswer so that they wil start displaying thr ignorance.. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Ukutsgp(m): 8:30pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
There is nowhere infants are baptised in the bible and there is nowhere baptism is done by sprinkling. It is a doctrine from the pit of hell which should be rejected. The catholic does not know anything that is why they are dancing round a circle. They cant defend their barbaric doctrine with the bible cos all they know is mere dogma and human tradition which God does nt command. Their doctrine is man made. Matthew 15:7-8. Another thing is that they have been indoctrinated with demonic doctrine. 1 timothy 4:1-2. Those who are deep in catholic will tell u that it is not better than a cult. I know a lot of people who hv repented from catholic, who are really deep in catholic and i even hv some of their books from them, where most of their secret deeds are exposed. Pls no one should believe d catholic, that was why catholic is dividing everyday, cos their doctrine doesn't match with the bible. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by POPEII: 10:01pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
And you are ? What makes you think you are an authority or we have anything to defend ? |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by POPEII: 10:05pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
We don't have anything to prove to heretic bastards like you . We are God's Church the only true and apostolic church, we are not a manmade church and we are definitively not in the same league. How dare you question the Holy Church? I will ask you to stop persecuting Gods Children for your own good. |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by truthislight: 10:49pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Mrlouis: this guy must be a confused fellow. Can u tell us now how ur ''bead'' (rosary) emanated? What kind of grace does it give you? Imagine him saying '' it will lead you straight to heaven'' lies lies lies. Without holiness no man SHALL see the lord. No wonder i left the catholic church. These lies were so much for me to handle. No scriptural backing to worsen things. I hope God opens your eyes somday. Amen "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10-11). |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by truthislight: 10:56pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders," (2 Thessalonians 2:8-9). |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 10:59pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
woky: exactly the main reason why i dnt wnt to answer them.. Very annoyin set of pple! They jst want you to aswer so that they wil start displaying thr ignorance..no oh. Oga woky your own case is different |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 11:02pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
POPE II: We don't have anything to prove to heretic bastards like you . We are God's Church the only true and apostolic church, we are not a manmade church and we are definitively not in the same league. How dare you question the Holy Church?this one is high on lacasera or somtin. See mr man i was once a catholic ok.so dont decieve your self on here. Using the word 'bastards' is uncalled for ok. Just calm down and defend your doctrines in a civilized way |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by woky: 11:07pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Mrlouis: no oh. Oga woky your own case is differentok |
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 11:09pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: There is nowhere infants are baptised in the bible and there is nowhere baptism is done by sprinkling. It is a doctrine from the pit of hell which should be rejected. The catholic does not know anything that is why they are dancing round a circle. They cant defend their barbaric doctrine with the bible cos all they know is mere dogma and human tradition which God does nt command. Their doctrine is man made. Matthew 15:7-8.exactly. And they still argue |
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