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@ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 9:42am On Nov 13, 2013
Having been a one time catholic, before now i have always thought it out to seek the truth beyond every shadow of doubt. I kept asking questions but no one could give me answers.even the few answers i got werent biblical(from the bible). So i went out in search for the truth. I have a questions based on the following doctrines observed by catholics which in every way seem not to be scriptural to me.

(1) why do the catholics practice infant baptism? I.e baptizing children and infants.

(2) why do they pray for the dead. I.e they see at as pre-requisite to pray for the dead. As somthing that is so dutiful.

(3) bowing down to the image of mary. I.e praying through mary and saints.

(4) priests and nuns not marrying.

(5) believing that there is a place called purgatory.

(6) categorizing sins as venial and mortal thereby making sins seem as if they have different punihment by God.


Could any catholic proove the following above from the BIBLE only with bible passages. If no catholic can proove all this beyond every reasonable doubt, then i'l believe that such doctrines are the result of human tradition.

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Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 10:19am On Nov 13, 2013
I'd love to explain the Catholic faith to you, but first I have a request to make.

Can you please take my name off the title of the thread?

I'm not comfortable with it.

"Catholics please defend your doctrines here" wouldn't be bad, would it?

Thanks and God bless you.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by KraticKratus: 10:34am On Nov 13, 2013
italo: I'd love to explain the Catholic faith to you, but first I have a request to make.

Can you please take my name off the title of the thread?

I'm not comfortable with it.

"Catholics please defend your doctrines here" wouldn't be bad, would it?

Thanks and God bless you.

that is not your name.

your mama probably gave you a jewish name.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Lawconfessor(f): 11:01am On Nov 13, 2013
KraticKratus: that is not your name.

your mama probably gave you a jewish name.

Still did not justify why d op shud use his moniker in d thread title.

@op, i suppose dat der exist similar threads to urs dat can answer ur questions- it wont be an omen if u resort to checking dem up, if truly u seek answers n not arguements n e-fight cos d title of ur thread depicts dat.

P.S: U cant stay at home n knw wot happens in d mkt, u need to go to d mkt to find out. D same is applicable here.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 11:03am On Nov 13, 2013
Grow up naa
KraticKratus:

that is not your name.

your mama probably gave you a jewish name.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by adsonstone: 11:03am On Nov 13, 2013
italo: I'd love to explain the Catholic faith to you, but first I have a request to make.

Can you please take my name off the title of the thread?

I'm not comfortable with it.

"Catholics please defend your doctrines here" wouldn't be bad, would it?

Thanks and God bless you.

Following this thread.

I have similar questions too (not any form of critic though)....just to be clear about some things you do.

Regarding the thread title;
Are you not proud of being a catholic?
However, if you want it removed, I urge the op to pls, do so.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 11:24am On Nov 13, 2013
That's the point. Italo is a son of the Catholic Church.

We Catholics dont like personal recognition as many non-Catholics do.

"Catholics" already covers "italo."

My opinion is the opinion of the Church.

No need to single me out.

adsonstone:

Following this thread.

I have similar questions too (not any form of critic though)....just to be clear about some things you do.

Regarding the thread title;
Are you not proud of being a catholic?
However, if you want it removed, I urge the op to pls, do so.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by SalC: 11:39am On Nov 13, 2013
@Op I hope you are not out to just argue but to seek clarifications.

When you get one, will you be truthful enough to accept it?

Though all what you asked have been treated on different threads, we can also grant your request if you so desire and will not drift along the line.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by macof(m): 11:44am On Nov 13, 2013
Whatever u see in catholism that isnt in other kinds of Christains is because Catholism is superior and The Mother of All others. Another point is that Roman traditions are embedded in Catholicism
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by KraticKratus: 11:48am On Nov 13, 2013
italo: Grow up naa

of course you can't deny it.

your real name is probably something like david, or solomon, or john, or samson, or samuel, or moses, or peter or gideon some other jewish name.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 1:07pm On Nov 13, 2013
Your state of maturity has been noticed. Thanks.

KraticKratus:

of course you can't deny it.

your real name is probably something like david, or solomon, or john, or samson, or samuel, or moses, or peter or gideon some other jewish name.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by mumumugu(m): 1:34pm On Nov 13, 2013
italo shows sign of humility like pope francis
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:41pm On Nov 13, 2013
italo:

Can you please take my name off the title of the thread?

I'm not comfortable with it.

"Catholics please defend your doctrines here" wouldn't be bad, would it?

Thanks and God bless you.
young man.. After creating this thread,. I stumbled on one which you created
https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses

so pls dnt be a hypocrite bro and answer my questions accordingly. And no diversions. Am waiting.

Thank you.

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Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by KraticKratus: 1:43pm On Nov 13, 2013
Mrlouis: young man.. After creating this thread,. I stumbled on one which you created
https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses

so pls dnt be a hypocrite bro and answer my questions accordingly. And no diversions. Am waiting.

Thank you.

The bolded is like telling a snake to not be a reptile.

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Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:43pm On Nov 13, 2013
macof: Whatever u see in catholism that isnt in other kinds of Christains is because Catholism is superior and The Mother of All others. Another point is that Roman traditions are embedded in Catholicism
that does not proove the catholic doctrines above
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by macof(m): 1:44pm On Nov 13, 2013
Italo you are a very big Hypocrite. you do something and get angry that someone else does it to u

typical christian attitude tongue

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Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:46pm On Nov 13, 2013
KraticKratus:

The bolded is like telling a snake to not be a reptile.
please and please. I'd appreciate it if this thread is void of sentiments and sarcasm. If u are not a catholic. Stay back and watch. Or better still make meaningful inputs here. Thank you
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by macof(m): 1:48pm On Nov 13, 2013
Mrlouis: my friend.. That does not proove your doctrines
prove which doctrines? ki l'eleyi n so
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:50pm On Nov 13, 2013
Italo.. The stage is set for you. Please proove the doctrines above.. Other catholics are welcomed
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:56pm On Nov 13, 2013
Sal C: @Op I hope you are not out to just argue but to seek clarifications.

When you get one, will you be truthful enough to accept it?

Though all what you asked have been treated on different threads, we can also grant your request if you so desire and will not drift along the line.
my brother all this questions are not neccesary.. I believe on the bible and if u can show me these doctrines based on the bible teachings, who am i not to believe?
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 1:58pm On Nov 13, 2013
Salc , bro the stage is set for you.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by KraticKratus: 1:58pm On Nov 13, 2013
Mrlouis: please and please. I'd appreciate it if this thread is void of sentiments and sarcasm. If u are not a catholic. Stay back and watch. Or better still make meaningful inputs here. Thank you

All my inputs are meaningful. It your problem if you can't understand them. Not mine.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 2:02pm On Nov 13, 2013
KraticKratus:

All my inputs are meaningful. It your problem if you can't understand them. Not mine.
i see
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Mrlouis: 2:05pm On Nov 13, 2013
My catholic soldiers italo ,salc etc aren't saying anything. Please we need ur responses.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Nobody: 2:08pm On Nov 13, 2013
mumumugu: italo shows sign of humility like pope francis
that nigga italo is the least humble member of nairaland grin
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by KraticKratus: 2:21pm On Nov 13, 2013
obadiah777: that nigga italo is the least humble member of nairaland grin

nigga mabe you should ban yourself for breaking rule 2
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Nobody: 2:24pm On Nov 13, 2013
KraticKratus:

nigga mabe you should ban yourself for breaking rule 2
cry
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by amaralizzy40y: 3:35pm On Nov 13, 2013
italo: I'd love to explain the Catholic faith to you, but first I have a request to make.

Can you please take my name off the title of the thread?

I'm not comfortable with it.

"Catholics please defend your doctrines here" wouldn't be bad, would it?

Thanks and God bless you.
But u started it wen u wrote anoda person's name for JW thread. First 2 do no dey pain but second 2 do dey pain most.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 1:10am On Nov 15, 2013
Don't judge what you know nothing about.

1. I had a prior agreement with JMAN05 before opening that thread.

2. I deliberately mentioned his moniker because the thread arose from his constant attacks on the Catholic faith and I wanted to take my issues up with him personally, not all JWs. Many of them do not necessarily go about demonizing my faith like him and I didnt want them to feel I was attacking all of them as Iindividuals.

3. JMAN05 practically asked for that thread. I kept warning him as he attacked my faith: "don't make me do this." He was like 'go ahead and do it., invite me when you do because i might not see it'

4. JMAN05 hasn't complained to me about his moniker on the title...he obviously is okay with it.

So please, I beg you once again, take off my moniker from the topic.

The way you have started out, it seems you are here for a confrontation. I don't want a confrontation.

@ Amara and Macof, I never said i was angry or pained. I dont even think the OP has necessarily done a bad thing. I'm just not COMFORTABLE with it and i have given my reasons.

amara.lizzy%40y:
But u started it wen u wrote anoda person's name for JW thread. First 2 do no dey pain but second 2 do dey pain most.
Mrlouis: young man.. After creating this thread,. I stumbled on one which you created
https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses

so pls dnt be a hypocrite bro and answer my questions accordingly. And no diversions. Am waiting.

Thank you.
macof: Italo you are a very big Hypocrite. you do something and get angry that someone else does it to u

typical christian attitude tongue
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Ukutsgp(m): 3:38am On Nov 15, 2013
italo: Don't judge what you know nothing about.

1. I had a prior agreement with JMAN05 before opening that thread.

2. I deliberately mentioned his moniker because the thread arose from his constant attacks on the Catholic faith and I wanted to take my issues up with him personally, not all JWs. Many of them do not necessarily go about demonizing my faith like him and I didnt want them to feel I was attacking all of them as Iindividuals.

3. JMAN05 practically asked for that thread. I kept warning him as he attacked my faith: "don't make me do this." He was like 'go ahead and do it., invite me when you do because i might not see it'

4. JMAN05 hasn't complained to me about his moniker on the title...he obviously is okay with it.

So please, I beg you once again, take off my moniker from the topic.

The way you have started out, it seems you are here for a confrontation. I don't want a confrontation.

@ Amara and Macof, I never said i was angry or pained. I dont even think the OP has necessarily done a bad thing. I'm just not COMFORTABLE with it and i have given my reasons.


stop trying to avoid those questions posed before u. All this ur stories are nt useful now. All we need is answers. I am waiting seriously, let me see hw u will dislay ur ignorance.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by Nobody: 4:56am On Nov 15, 2013
Ukuts gp: stop trying to avoid those questions posed before u. All this ur stories are nt useful now. All we need is answers. I am waiting seriously, let me see hw u will dislay ur ignorance.

So which of the questions posed by the op have not been treated by the myriads of catholic threads on this site.
Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 5:04am On Nov 15, 2013
Ukuts gp: stop trying to avoid those questions posed before u. All this ur stories are nt useful now. All we need is answers. I am waiting seriously, let me see hw u will dislay ur ignorance.

My God!

I've not even started and you're already calling me ignorant...

YOU are just here to fight me abi...

Alright go ahead and fight me. I'm not giving YOU any answers.

After all, when Jesus was taken to Herod and saw that Herod was just being imbecilic, he didn't say a word to him. Let me imitate the master.

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