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CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 2:50pm On Dec 26, 2014
Truckpusher:
It came from the oldest generation.
Thanks, just want to be sure its not modern area code. To some on this platform, oduduwa was an allusion and not real, because they were clueless as to the name. But if Yoruba were known as that, it means that in prehistoric time some in Yoruba neighbourhood reckon with the historicity of an ancient empire builder. Yoruba favours city~state names as their identity, common name decayed a long while ago, perhaps after inception.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 2:23pm On Dec 26, 2014
Truckpusher:
I think they got it from other neighboring tribes and ethnic group and then related it to their own language.
Is the term commonly used by the youth or the oldest generation? I'm only trying to peruse the usage, maybe it sprang from self determination spirit that spread across southern Nigeria at the wake of the civil war, or from political dynamics of pre-independence, where Awo created egbe omo oduduwa b4 60s. I believe you can handle this, thanks.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 1:03pm On Dec 26, 2014
Truckpusher:
Yeah.
Happy boxing day - We should just keep it for another day.

Enjoy cheesy
Good moves, onto the Odudu nwa stuff, is it a freestyle thing of yours or a term that has always been in the language? For instance, the Igbos will say 'odudunwa bu eze' and that's natural in their language. What circumstance created Odudu nwa as Yoruba identity with your beautiful people?
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 9:05am On Dec 26, 2014
Truckpusher:
I'm not a difficult person but I have this dislike for ethnic supremacists especially even to other ethnic minority that shares a lot with them. cheesy

Mbiri ka mbiri is where I stand. grin

Who's hopeathand?

Hey! we are one but we need to first disabuse our minds of our ugly and shameful history/past that were mostly told by a bitter set of people from both side of the divide, but when youths like you and some other folks subscribes to such concocted lies and propaganda then one would certainly need to do some soul searching before embarking on a journey of searching for a long lost relative who might be more of a threat than provide the companion and friendship you yearn for.Never the less we are just one people with one destiny. grin

I still dey the game wink
Very impressive post.
CultureRe: The Fufu Nation Survives Ebola by 2prexios: 7:53am On Dec 26, 2014
axum:
I must hand it to you guys, you guys are still alive. i FIGURED I would go away for a couple weeks and expect everyone here to die of Ebola, but you guys are still here.
Thats to tell you how you will ever fail at every machinations prefered against us..
Congratulations
Thanks and keep coming to look up to us to find response and relevance for your opinion. The enemy will bite dust. Welcome.
CultureRe: Historical Pix; Picture Of Christmas Celebration In Badagry, 1923 by 2prexios: 8:16pm On Dec 25, 2014
HopeAtHand:
Its unnecessary of you.

Its a simple analysis of the blackmans situation.

If you believe you have a counter argument, why not state it..or maybe your brain is incapable of critical reasoning.
I have seen your genius from the first post, your brain works at full capacity on stuffs like these and your agenda is to bring everybody down to your worldview level. Write off the black man, thats your consolation as slave. Lisbon wax fat on slave trade, says Karl Marx. You can undo the slave trade in history, let's see if the present world and attending prosperity would have been. Slaves of hundred generations will always want to tell about human civilization from slave/master worldview. Slaves cannot tell empire stories cause they dont have the wherewithal.
RomanceRe: For Zeemore by 2prexios(op): 7:51pm On Dec 25, 2014
KK
CultureRe: Historical Pix; Picture Of Christmas Celebration In Badagry, 1923 by 2prexios: 7:48pm On Dec 25, 2014
HopeAtHand:
You are deeply pained and fail to accept the reality at hand.

The whiteman came in Ships to black Africa and met the blackman living in jungles with leaves wrapped around his loins.

The whiteman made the blackman exchange humans for sugar and clothings, forced the blackman into servitude and taught the blackman his ways.

The whiteman literally gave the blackmam civilization up ontil this point where you are able to use a phone or laptop to post on this forum.

Rossike, what are the inventions of the blackman, what are his contributiona to science and technology, what are his contributions to the Arts..And measure such contributions relative to that of the whiteman.

Accept the truth, it wouldnt be out of place to say they've given us almost everything.What is expected of us is to accept our situation as it is and then task ourselves assiduously to measure up.
You are the best of slaves, beyond emancipation.
RomanceRe: For Zeemore by 2prexios(op): 7:35pm On Dec 25, 2014
striktlymi:
You are either mistaken, gay or zeemore is a lady.
She is a lady and the most beautiful lady that is.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 7:32pm On Dec 25, 2014
cheruv:
and seriously brother I've seen how wise you're undecided ..bia lekwa maagwa gi angry site n'inyo gi naede a hulam na ijizighi okwu!
I appreciate, thanks and you are wise too. My Yoruba at your post i quoted earlier, 'ejo laako kaato koja' means you must learn how to argue or explain issues in your favour before you learn to fight, lest you wont be able to wriggle out of trouble. Thats why Yoruba argues rather than fight, to make room for reconciliation.
RomanceFor Zeemore by 2prexios(op):
White flowers bloom in authum. And no one can resist the taste of black currant in winepress. I look to you a year ago, sweet lady. You are social, sexy and daring. You are a prima donna. A little sip of love is tipsy, and so much of it affects my soul. I take a sip of love from cupid cup, the one you pour, and in my jaccuzzi, I felt I'm in a flying sauser with aliens at my command. On and on I went cruising from space station to planets and younder space with you. The cosmos is big enough. Come to me, let's make some baby. I have the whole city as mine, I give it to you my love. Just take it.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 6:38pm On Dec 25, 2014
cheruv:
I never said that was an Igbo word..mgbati like you and a former poster said it meant when. there's nothing like that in Igbo lingo.
the only thing I said was what I was told, that it meant wrestling talk/shout i.e mgba+ti which means its a union of two desperate meanings.
What can be more desperate than the need to slander others for gain and muse among wise people? It's a virtue to be wise, may wisdom set the desperate free.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 4:12pm On Dec 24, 2014
limamintruth:
Yea. Most of our indigenous languages are kinda inter-woven. So its very common to hear two or more dialects with so many similar words in their local languages.

I didnt really get the 'dan tada' you mentioned sha; maybe the spelling doesnt tally with how its pronounced thats why. The one i know of is 'dan ta'ada' and it means a trouble maker.

Lets expect more insightful contributions from nairalanders; i believe we'l all hav alot to learn here. cool
I think that's the right spelling. It was given as a woman that pretends as man in that theussaurus. You make a lovely post.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 3:55pm On Dec 24, 2014
TonySpike:
I remember Fani-Kayode said Yoruba means oYO eRU oBA. That is, Oyo is slave to the king. How about that?
There is supremacy war inbetween, there you have Ife reply to the OluwoOni tradition.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 3:51pm On Dec 24, 2014
rabzy:
The answer to how the yoruba's came to be known as yorubas might have been totally lost to antiquity. There would be theories and conjectures and this would be analyzed. No one can say with utmost certainty that he or she is correct so all these are just for research and knowledge reasons. No one can have the answers to all the above questions just ideas and thoughts. A group of people can let their name be known to their neighbors and others can be named by their neighbors, some are even called different names by their neighbors. I know the Yorubas are called Zanama by the Esans, what it means i dont even know.
You've a valid point, but the Yoruba have a system of architype and feedback. To get a root word and what it stand for, you have to look for synonyms and designate one architype and the other(s), feedback. Nothing happen in isolation and scholars of old dont use the same set of words.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 11:30am On Dec 24, 2014
When did we start to mix with these people that named us Yoruba? From which of the neighbours? Cos all can't start the name at once, just like that. Why was the slur their favorite? How often does the slur occur in everyday Yoruba sentences in time of old and, if Yoruba has been saying that, then their language is clear at that stage: what did they call themselves at that material time? Moreso, they should be able to trace yoba to misnomer of their own slang favoured by a particular group just as you do. Ibn Baba identified the Yoruba as ethnic name 500 years ago. The Hausa favoured Yarbawa, then if the name was imported from neighbours, it simply follows that Yoruba import their slur and 'Yorubarised' it. I dont believe Yoruba to be like that, its not in their character, cos they say 'oruko rere nii yeni, apeja nii yeniyan': that is, good name is deserving, a full prounciation of it is befitting. The Romans were named after Romulus that founded Rome. Shall we subscribe to the easy way out?
RomanceRe: Come In, Let Me Hear Your Thoughts by 2prexios: 8:58am On Dec 24, 2014
Its on my mind my zee. Cheers to my nairaland angel. I feel better this morning, much better than it was two weeks ago. Its the weather. So my love is now miss world? Ah, aye mi ti daa! Tomorrow is the D-Day, toast to my sweetest princess. Eyi to nki, so maa meet king kong? cheesy
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 8:35am On Dec 24, 2014
blacko:
I understand ur claim the ruba word is mainly from the Hausa or Sudanese language it also may be from the old Malian language
Maybe just may be.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 8:30am On Dec 24, 2014
limamintruth:
Thanx alot boss cool





Wow, you seem to be very well learned in yoruba culture & language @2prexios.

I'm really impressed. smiley
I love history and culture, most of all I love the way our ancestors were able to create meaningful words that we often take for granted. Zags001, I believe that Yoruba/Fulani/Hausa etc were kinsmen in some remote past. I found 'duduwa' in Fulani lexicon, dan'tada in Hausa. Do you know of it? Seriously, apabi sounds like Yoruba too, it means 'by this side'. I was surprise one day my neighbour said he's fulani. I believe he was Yoruba until then. Then later, I look at his wife critically to be sure: she's slim, (someone call the husband 'dan Fulani) so I believe.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 7:48am On Dec 24, 2014
blacko:
The origin of the name Yoruba is a very simple one first of all the yo was. Coined from oyo then ruba means people so Yoruba means people of the oyo empire the name was most probably coined by neighbors
Nice, but in what language do we have 'ruba' as people? I don't think its so simple. Also, remember that Yo is a Yoruba adjective reserved exclusively for intensity of light. So Yoruba women can drop whatever they consider too bright, saying 'o ti se yo yo yo ju' (It's too bright for my liking). So, yo is to imole, as in 'o mole yo'. Another use for the term can be found in a-yo (favorite), as found in the saying 'adiye funfun, aayo Olodumare'. Ultimately, yo is to be hunger-free. It is only as adjective to light or to be hunger-free that the prefix YO stands on its own. Take it up from there and let's review our materials.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 7:25am On Dec 24, 2014
Funjosh:
Getting Interesting day afta day.
True talk pal.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 6:27am On Dec 24, 2014
cheruv:
the spambot autocorrected the ofe'mmanu stuff I wrote to Yoruba. the names the Yorubas have isn't derogatory but due to how they behave eg
1]ofe'mmanu :this simply means ofe(soup) and mmanu(oil/oily) and this simply means oily soup.this is bkos Yorubas consume a lot of oil when preparing their soups
2]mgbati :this simply means mgba(wrestle) and ti(shout) and this is bkos yolobas shout a lot when talking which gives the impression that they're soon going to fight.. which doesn't happen afterwards undecided
3]akawoo :this simply means to mark or marks and this is due to the tribal marks yolobas are known to carry

that's how those names came about cheesy
Mgbati is a frequently used word in Yoruba, it means 'when'. There is something called 'hidden corriculum'. In Yoruba, the rule is: 'saalo siwaju ija'. It means 'shout before you fight' In Yoruba, it is foul to attack your adversary unaware, you will be punished if you do. Ejo laako k'ato ko'ja.
CultureRe: What Names Do You Refer To Natives Of Other Tribes With In Your Dialect? by 2prexios: 6:07am On Dec 24, 2014
Zags001:
This looks interesting smiley
well in my own dialect (gure), this is what we call the following respective tribes:
yoruba; a'pabi
igbos; a'kyema
hausas; a'chetti e.t.c
These are the ones i know so well sha. grin
Lol, pls what are possible meanings to A'pabi? At what state can Gure people be found? Op, nice topic. You deserve so much.
RomanceRe: Come In, Let Me Hear Your Thoughts by 2prexios: 6:25pm On Dec 23, 2014
You doing just fine my zee, the cheerleader! Couple of blessings and abundance grace. I'm feeling malaria cold. Luftwavey.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 7:18am On Dec 22, 2014
itstpia100:
you can provide those yourself if you want them.
PoliticsRe: Please What's The Meaning Of Osibanjo? by 2prexios: 6:34am On Dec 22, 2014
Desola:
I don't think your explanation applies to this name.
Ijebu people please teach this person o, I don tire.
I am sorry. No cause for alarm.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 5:58am On Dec 22, 2014
itstpia100:
if you add a prefix or article to yoruba, you can also play around with the meaning.

eg, iyoruba, eyoruba, eyioruba, etc.
Provide elaborate discuss around the new words na.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 5:49am On Dec 22, 2014
@Metaphysical aku popo~shinshin odun o, emi wa a se opo odun laye o. E fiye denu lori iyekan yin omo onife abure o. We know in parts, I salute your wisdom and leadership instincts made manifest in every of your post. Baba kee pe.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op): 5:22am On Dec 22, 2014
@9jacrip, you're welcome sir. Now your post has finally convey absolute meaning you have in mind. Our fathers said 'gbogbowa o le sun ka kori si'bikan na'. We must have divergent views based on our backgrounds. But in spite of this, we must disagree to agree. We should not celebrate hate, but love we must embrace regardless of historical inclinations. You are smarts sir, you never exhibit slavish attitude to anyone, and you are quite reasonable. You are not under Aole's spell, you have a mind of your own too.
PoliticsRe: Please What's The Meaning Of Osibanjo? by 2prexios: 8:24pm On Dec 21, 2014
Desola:
Oshin and Osi have different pronunciation though.
Yes you are absolutely right.

Oshin is what happens when you radiate in spite of tanning effect of the sun.
On the other hand, Osi is when someone become pale and lack luster after sunburn.

Oshin is to appear beautiful after staying in hot climate, while Osi it to appear poor afterwards.

So the Yoruba will say, o ti si, to mean he has lost the sheen of the skin.
CultureRe: Origin Of The Name Yoruba by 2prexios(op):
9jacrip:
The sanest and most stimulating post thus far on this thread since I unfollowed it.

God bless you.
Your conclusion is quite disappointing. Its not compulsory you believe the semito-hamitic theory before you are able to separate wheat from chaff. So the name Yoruba is from YoBa, then if you are the only Yoruba on this board, that's what you will establish as sane?

I think you guys are not after any facts or deep inquest, but after the migration story, and the reason is not far fetched. If the truth is told you will loose grip of the people and the covering of lies cast upon them.

Thank God for the Awori thread, there are families in Awori that does not believe in Ife or Oyo story. Yes, you have great empire, it is likely the foremost in Yorubaland in prehistoric times, but it does not make the people to come from you, they can not find their history and we are here to confuse them of their confusion or enlighten them about their records.

If we look outside Yoruba domain, its not out of foolishness, but on the available pointers,and if that is a sin, two wrongs don't make a right, you shouldn't be desperate to take any appearance of opposition to ours as the gospel truth, hello o.

Yo ba furo re or yoo ba iya re is as metaphisical put it, its insult, and vulgar. It means it will be ill with your a.ss or it will be ill with your mother. Iba is a form of sickness with the Yoruba, it is the root source of fever or ill-fate, as in

O de /ba/ Olugbon, o muu mora,
O de /ba/ Aresa, o muu mora,
O de /ba/ Owarangun aga, oun naa mu mora ni,
Kii Ba ni a yeri.

"Ba" as used in the above is the same source of the ones that we use as slang these days, or as idiomatic expression in "tie ba e" As such, ba as used in your kabiesi's post is for negative omen. If that is the root word for Yoruba, it shows how superficial our "ace historians" here are.

At what point did this slur become the magnificent phrase and next, so glorious for a conventional name or eponymous name with the Yoruba? So if we can think this superficial as to the origin of the origin of the name Yoruba, it is this same superficial minds that condemn the wise thought of others as crap.

Why was the slur the most magnificent of names for the people and,
How could Yoruba with repertoire of preciosity lose it at naming itself?



Some so called Yoruba on this section are are funny though, they are under the Aole spell, they will always slave under Fulani and Hausa conclusion on Yoruba. I am not a subject of the North, I have a mind of my own, so I don't look unto Fulani man or Hausa man for guidance.
PoliticsRe: Please What's The Meaning Of Osibanjo? by 2prexios: 4:18pm On Dec 21, 2014
tollu:
Osi pronounced Oshi O as in Orange means lord of a clan/family.
Bajo means back from a journey
Osi bajo means the lord of this clan is back from a journey.
May God bless your wit. Oshin is the same as osi, it means one who has become exposed to the sun and become sheen by it. To be darkened by the sun. Meanwhile, an ancient Yoruba empress endowed us the term: you can feel it in Ogun laka aye, Oshin mole. This has once been royal title with Yoruba, before they switch to Oba. Remember the folktale 'Igbin p'abuke Oshin, Oba da igbin l'ola'

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