₦airaland Forum

Zeemoor:
I hear

Eh my precious zee, hope you are doing just fine today? I'm seeing you my lady. I see your true colour shining.

Teempakguy:
2prexios, we must consider that death is a process and until it is complete, it is completely reversible. therein lies the solution to the near death phenomenon. death is only complete when the brain dies and the individual's personality is destroyed. until this happens, anything can happen. even a stopped heart doesn't guarantee death. as to when you will die, this will happen when your vital organs fail to function in harmony or perfection, leading to brain death. probably because of sickness, accident, injury, or ageing.
it is most logical to conclude that when you die, you "end" but that would be "too easy" it doesn't account for the moral and religeous instincts in humans. so, a safe assumption will be that there is an afterlife. and if we are to understand from the main religions, you will be rewarded for listening to your moral and religious instincts and will be punished for not doing so.

You are a familiar sage. Ciao.

Teempakguy:
That is not possible. if that were to happen, it would ruin the economy by causing hyper inflation. there is a reason why central bank doesn't print "enough to go around"

Oso is one of Yoruba's misconception of their history. Here is the word combo: O se so (O break so). The se is breakthrough. Oso was the one who has the break, So, it is like saying Oso's break. Oso means fruiful one. Let me borrow from my ancestors on this Ola was an aristo(crat), Oso was a spy from the resistant group. So Oso manipulated Ola and got a big break and fame. People who witness the history moved the wordCombo to a metaphorical level, as in 'Se So'. Oso is Ogun's daughter, and Ogun was a rebel or Yoruba's Robin hood. Thus Ogun came into the mix, a confusing word for juju, so the idea snap from metaphor to metaphysical. I'm 'Omo Ola, omo Ose'. I think that Oloso matriarch had a love child with that Aristo patriarch, by and by a myth is bursted by their posterity, Aris Oladipo.

What do you say of near death experience and afterlife? When shall I die and what's my fate after death?

Zeemoor:
What's abeti aja?
How close are the dahomeys to the yorubas?
Are the dahomeys also called Anangos?

Abeti Aja is a kind of traditional cap common with Yoruba and the Hausa/fulani. It is similar to hat (akete) where you have two triangular flips at either side of the cap. The Dahomey are Yoruba neighbours to the west. Their name Egun is intelligible in Yoruba where it means 'the tall'. This pertains with Dan, the boa, a totem of Dahomey/Oranmiyan. The Egun has it (Egun) as Agun, as in Agun me nu: this mean 'a native of Agun' But Agun in Yoruba means Agbo, flock. Agunmeh is similar to Agbome (Abomey) Agbo is Yoruba, omeh is Egun, such Yoruba/Egun medly are rampart. The Egun identifies Yoruba as annaGo nu or Ayo nu. They call Lagos, Ahonrin (Awon orin: the migrants') and Ado, Gesse. Eguns were Fon (n fan, i said: Yoruba, Ifo, speech) and Alada (Yoruba, one weilding dagger) or Adja (Yoruba, fighters). The Yoruba says O-FON to border the Fon.

Zeemoor:
Hian
Ile mi jin gan o

Ahn-ahn emi lo de now, Yoruba ni eni t'aofe nile 'e njin. Kojinna ko ju kawo moto na.

Ogun owo bawo? Dont be decieved o, cos I am no part of it. ...ZEEMOOREE.... Look at you! Nko rin iru erin yi ri o oh oh, omo toniwa to silewa o, mofe mo le re o kinma ba e lo.

Great pix, the guy is cool, but my great ancestor was a prince, according to their trad. He was 'Ahoru Jaca ni'vi'. A king son. My great granpa has a pix in which he wore Aso Oke and Abeti Aja. So I think Yoruba attire is close home.

This country can be great, if not let her great countries spring forth. This is a turn of the century and believe it, a change will engulf us from above somewhere. Are we a people capable of change? Over to God and the Psychics.

We are not doomed my dear, we have hope and future is full of surprises. We are our own problems, a thousand country issuing out of Nigeria following the US intelligent report soon, is that the expected salvation? Hmm, we may expect buyers' remorse for those whose consolation is disintegration, except they work it out. When the British asked Wales to chose, they still prefer to be Brittons. We have two options with us: we can fight or flight. We can prove America right or wrong. I love Nigerians, we all are brothers but that does not extend to politics, as such, I don't decry self determination or mock a cry for freedom. But should we carry the Nigeria mentality with us at flight, then we are doomed to deja vu.

I don't have anything against the Igbos or biafra. I am only curious about their flag. If you are dissociating yourself from Nigeria, then you cease to be East or a land of the rising sun, except you are still carrying 'Nigerian mentality' to a new country, or georaphy is turned upside down. Chief Ralph, if it is allowed, please pay me royalty if you ever change your flag or drop the 'rising sun' clitche, because I sense its an intellectual error. No hard feelings, house, just an observation.

tpia6:
if your mum's maternal great or great great grandpa was "dahomean", how did that make her from dahomey?

Oh my, I mean to say my maternal great, great grandpa and not my mum's maternal greatest grandpa. I was half awake when I made the post.

Zeemoor:
My muse, my new flame, you're so sweet and I truly appreciate your sweet words
Thanks for being sooo stinkin' sweet
Good morning

Never mind, IOU a lot of sentiments and a lot of kiss. Happy weekend my lady.

tpia6:
if your mum's maternal great or great great grandpa was "dahomean", how did that make her from dahomey?

They are still connected to the place and they usually bury part of the remains of the members of their family at Benin. It's like the place is their first and foremost home and here, a home away from home. Two of my siblings have been to the root, I am one among my contemporaries that hasnt been to vacon.

tpia6:
i thought you used to say your mum is from dahomey.

Yes, but they are Nigerians. They (maternal 'greatest grandpa') relocated in the 19th century from Vacon, (like Ifako) to Ado. Most of their folksong sound similar to the bolojo tunes of Yewa, their Yoruba neighbours. Sometimes, you will encounter shared-words between 'Yoruba-homey', but you wont recognise it easily. Like others, they (mom's peep) are remnants of Ogu people to be found in Ado-Odo Ota, Ogun state.

Zeemoor:
How sweet your words taste to me; they are sweeter than honey
Good night, dear one

We all are products of words, of love. We are made to be sustained by our source, which are pleasant words that enliven the soul. Good words are enchantment, truth is therapitic and love is like ornament poured forth. I mean, when a man loves a woman, then robin will sing. I wish a song for my zeelady, and a song to all that are capable of loving others unconditionally, a true love song. In the still of the night.

Vessi:
Man, I love the Dahomey history. Read it in 2011. Can't remember the book-source.

That is where I had my cultural awakening and fall in love with history, at the homestead of migrants from Dahomey. They are cool people, and their history and culture is fascinating. Their music is heavenly and with it goes ancient chants and lyrics filled with pathos.

Zeemoor:
Evening, pre mi
Missed you too

You are so beautiful and dearly so intelligent, my prima ballerina. I believe the night is terrific at your zone? Sleep well till morrow.

Zeemoor:
Thanks for sharing
I know people don't get past a betrayal overnight; it takes months or even years but I hope you don't resent them for letting you down
Afterall, we all are imperfect
*
My story:
I was betrayed by a group of people who not only stabbed me in the back, but conspired against me (I can't go into details)
I've forgiven them and moved on with my life
I don't dwell on it anymore.... I can't change the past

I've come to realise betrayal has been going on since time immemorial and no one is immune to that shii
Not even Jesus christ...... He was betrayed by his own

My love, you are inspired. Katodaye, niran odale tiwa, aoma ri solution si. Misd u.

I do not think the name Coker was from
Brazil. It's an English, not a Brazilian
(Portuguese) name. It seems to me that
prexios' comment confuses two groups of
returnees: the Brazilian returnees (the
Aguda or the Amaro) and the Sierra Leonean returnees (the Saro). The Aguda had been slaves in South
America and had acquired Portuguese
names thus. Most Saro were descendants
of captives rescued from slave ships and
resettled in Sierra Leone where they were
christianized and given an English education and English names. Saros were
never slaves in South America.

You are right radoillo. You are such a keen, forthright and unbiased writer. I always love your wit and prose brother.

Jo mijor hoho,
mini gbo bo noh hoho re si gbe jie

Joh mijoh hoho,
mini gbo bo no hoho re si gbeji.

Do hoho whenu, awanja he kenfe hunor domoh
hoho whenu mi to jeh aion meh, mi se do votun wehyin,

Johgbe miton, mi so se doh ahoru wheyin,
Me e gona da gbe jo...

Zangun-rogo whe da sanbo mi to jaasin tho.

Jo mi jo hoho.............

We are from the ancients.
lets stay with the voice of the ancients.

We are from the ancients.
lets stay with the voice of the ancients.

In the ancient times when we came to be,
We learn that our origin was sacred.

We also learn that the king was subordinate
to the father of creation.

Zangunrogo weh daszanbo mitoh jaasintho (unbreakable to me).

Zangbohan, I love this tune, so much.
But I am at lost at the sentences I couldn't break.

Music is love in motion, and that little is enough.
And this is dedicated to my Ogu folks here on nairaland.

MetaPhysical:
....continuing from The Myth,





This is a chronicle of the Ooni dynastic rule.

Titles, Names, Aliases all got mixed up as time passed through the ages.

Aramfe is also called Ifa.
Oduduwa is also called Odum'la.

I draw attention to where they say Orni Odum'la was left in charge on Earth. This is a mindset and position commonly held by colonists.....world super powers or guardians of civilizatiins and world orders!

The Ifes...Yorubas, at one time had a superiority claim on world civilization.

We need to explore deeply and insightfully into the archives and legacies of these people and culture, holistically, and not half heartedly relying all on written chnronicles and dismissing histories passed down orally or in crafts.

If we seek deep, we will uncover forgotten episodes in our history.

Nobody will do that for us but ourselves. So, let the music play.

eku nairaland wa yi o.

o ga o...se dada ni dede ne o?

eku 3 days.

Yoruba salutarium

So true, I have the same believe.

JuanDeDios:

I would have thought that was obvious. Ok, let me explain it for you.

Different languages take different tones and these names don't sound Yoruba. They don't even sound Niger-Congo. In fact, they sound English. Yet it appears only Yoruba people are seen or heard to bear them. Hence I'm wondering if they're Yoruba names or not. Thank you.

Coker, Cole and Dasilva are all Saro names.

These names are from southern America (Brazil) brought back by Sierra-Leonian-Yorubas returning (to Lagos and Abeokuta) after the abolition of slave trade.

The Cokers are to be found among the Egbas. One of the patriarch of the Coker family was an Islamic scholar among the Egbas in the 19th century or so.

Another reputable Saro in Ogun state with colonial authority was Seriki Abass.

A story around that name (coker) is this:

Coker and another Yoruba scholar were vying to become chief imam of Egba or so.

So it is said that Coker ask if the man is truly an Egba man going by the apparent Ibadan/Oyo tribal mark on his cheeks?

His contender ask him in return to explain if the name Coker is anyway traceable to a Yoruba root.

that's what I've learn somewhere.

badmus,gbadamosi, historical piece.

Babangida's middle name is Badamasi, also a derivative of this.

there is a myth that connects IBB to Ogbomosho, how true it is I don't know.

People says the name Gbadamosi is rooted in this place.

meanwhile, there is a premordial link between the Ogbomosho and the Ibariba (Niger).

Ogbomosho omo af'ogoja.

Great people.

@Timmy2409, you are more caring than God who takes his prophets anyway he wants, try and leave God and His people alone. God did not design the airplane, did he? and if he go about rescuing his people from natural laws of cause and effect that he design in nature to make aircraft technology possible, then he would be a dumb god that does not know beginners' lesson in physics or ethics of justice that frown on selective justice. Is this your kind of god? You are looking for a really dumb god controlled by the fate and the affairs of men, no fixed law. If two body colide, there would be a crash, this law does not respect anyone. The law has been before us, it cannot delete, or plane will not fly. Eccl 9:11.

timmy2409:
EDIT: This is for those who have replied to me, rebuking me for the above. Yes I was being facetious. I know very well that death is an immutable fact of life, and is the only conclusion that every living being arrives at eventually. I didn't know this man, and I hold absolutely no ill-will towards him. Judging from the responses here, I have no doubts that he lived a life that some found inspiring.

What I can't fathom though is why a loving God would allow his prophets, and supposed representatives here on earth die in the same horrible ways that "other" people die. It is even worse when they are right in the middle of carrying out duties in his name. Recent examples are the 150 that got crushed under TB Joshua's building, the various church bombings, and the bus of convention returnees that burnt halfway home.
What would be the lesson here for either the witnesses of these events...

This is a chance for you to proof better than God, revive them.

Ishilove:
No need to be sorry. I will keep praying for you because you don't know what you're up against.

The nicety of those 'dysilexia' grammar appeal to him than just g.o.d. Is it not insane fighting the unseen? I have joined you in prayer.