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TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 6:32pm On Aug 07, 2014
spikesC: Nope. My quantification was accurate because he didn't report back that he has gotten his VISA.
The delay is defo a mismanagement from VI not the peak season because Ikeja has been processing on an average of 2weeks.
Someone's package is even reported "Not trackable" by UKVI after 4 weeks and 1 day

Anybody who is submitting at VI, for now, is doing so at his own detriment
Refer to sisit's post...
sisit: I quite disagree with u.Submitted @ Teleperformance on 10th july and got a txt msg on 5th Aug for pick up and visa was approved.
Many tnxs
You may not be far from the truth but then you gotta realise that they have just taken over a process from vfs bout a month ago (though not an excuse for poor service).
There r still people who have received their visas from VIVAC. There's only much they (VIVAC) can do. Needless to add, the duration of visa processing lies to a great extent with the UKHO rather than the Application centres.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 4:37pm On Aug 07, 2014
sisit: I quite disagree with u.Submitted @ Teleperformance on 10th july and got a txt msg on 5th Aug for pick up and visa was approved.

Many tnxs
Very well said. Congrats.
spikesC: Do not submit at VI. They are currently having issues as no body has gotten visa from them since they kicked off . Ikeja is your best bet
Guess we should be more careful about how we quantify/qualify things. Think it's best to approximate than generalise.

In all, I think the delay here n there, which cld also be affecting VI is becos of the Peak season rush.
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 4:32pm On Aug 07, 2014
Buttergrey: Hi 3sha4lyf, yes I do. We are located in Nigeria.
Oh I see. K Tx
TravelRe: Nigerian Students In The Uk How Do You Survive? by 3sha4lyf: 10:41am On Aug 07, 2014
FutureDon: If you are going on a student visa for a program with a duration of 12months and above, YOU DO NOT NEED A RETURN TICKET. I was fed the same bs during my time.
The return ticket saga is one of cost vs necessity. Like I said, a return ticket in most cases is same price, if not cheaper than a one-way intercontinental ticket.

So if this is true, why buy a one way for 10 quids when you can get a return for approx. same and even if you don't return on the outbound date, you simply pay a very meagre fee (compared to the cost of a new ticket when ur ready to travel), revalidate the ticket when ur ready, and you're off. Most return tickets like that are flexible.
It's c/sense, it's not bs baby.

@ poster, what would you rather do? cheesy
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 10:34am On Aug 07, 2014
Buttergrey: Thanks for the S/O Greenfriend

Muchos thanks to 3sha4lyf for the GnG clarification. I couldn't have said it any better.

To skintouch, if you need more proof, pick up one GnG product (pink lid) from paks and send to any trusted testing lab of your choice. We'd like to know the results wink

Stay fair and beautiful everyone kiss kiss

www.buttergrey.com
@ buttergrey, do you have the pink lid oil? I'm soooo looking for it and Paks is yet to deliver to me. They are out of stock. Where r u?
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 7:52pm On Aug 06, 2014
esosa4real: @3sha4lyf and @justwise, i have selected my appointment date for monday nextweek. However it just struck me now that my Bank statement shows up to july 24th, because i have delayed by a week.
DO you advise i update my Bank statement now? or its just fine?
Lastly, anybody submitted at this teleperformance @ VI lately? how long do they take?
Thanks.
I would suggest its fine as long as it's not later than 28 days; at least that's how it works here.
Best wishes.
TravelRe: Nigerian Students In The Uk How Do You Survive? by 3sha4lyf: 5:31pm On Aug 06, 2014
Olola15: I just got my visa and am planning to come into Uk on Monday.Somebody mentioned to me that i have to get a return ticket. How thru is this as my plan is to get a one way ticket.
If going with arikair, get a return ticket or don't bother.

Other airlines may overlook it but sometimes first timers or ppl r usually asked for their return tickets at the point of entry and if you cannot produce it, den u'll return to Naija free of charge immediately, if u see what I mean.

Just for curiosity sake, pls why would u wanna buy a one-way ticket when it's as expensive as, if not more than, buying a return ticket?
You can just get a return ticket for return in, say, 1 year time so that by the next year, of u wanna travel, u use it or if you'll rather change the date to a later date, you pay change-of-date fee and use it.
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 8:35am On Aug 06, 2014
boraborababy: I use extreme glow glycerine and serum at night and qei+ mixed with extreme glow serum in the morning. I also use the soap. Its lovely on me. Pricey but worth it.
Heard and read that extreme glow (EG), like the brothers express glow, pure glow, etc, is laced with Roids. Can lighten you in days, but then will re darken you up to four shades from where you started if you stop, yet if you don't stop, it can damage u internally eg organs, and externally with stretchmarks, hairs growing like weeds on unwanted places etc
Also read of someone saying her pee was like toxin when she was using extreme glow.
So thread with caution.

If it's "nice" on you, that's cool. "Nice" is relative though. smiley
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf:
LadyWolfe: I have drafted something: Please help review


The Entry Clearance Officer
British Deputy High Commission
Sheffield
United Kingdom


Dear Sir

RE: SHEFO/

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO CLARIFY PREVIOUS REFUSAL OF ENTRY CLEARANCE

I recently applied for the UK Visit visa but my application was refused by your Commission on the grounds of Paragraph 41(i)(ii)(vii).

The ECO, adduced that the application could not be approved because he was not satisfied that I was genuinely seeking entry as a visitor for a limited period or that I intend to leave the UK at the end of my proposed visit due to my circumstances in Nigeria. The ECO also questioned deposits to my account that he believed would not be genuinely available for the trip.

In submitting my visa application, I submitted my personal statement of account, letter of introduction from employee, salary and position information in Bleep, letter of promotion, marriage certificate, family photographs, hotel booking among other things.

In defense of my visa application, I believe the ECO has erred in his review of my initial application and make the following submission:


1. I hold a Senior role and by virtue of my position earn NXXXX every month excluding other monetary benefits that accrue to me as shown in the Letter of Salary Breakdown. I have attached a breakdown of my annual salary package. Holiday, and other allowances, due at the beginning of my annual holiday amounts to XXXX.

2. Additional information on GTB Account statement: Apart from salaries paid monthly, I earn upfront payments at varying times of the year: Some of these payments have been made into my account and accounts for the bulk of large sum deposits observed by the ECO in my initial application. They include:

a. NXXXX – Quarterly Education Payment. 3 payment have been made for the 3 quarters in 2014
b. NXXXX – Upfront Housing Payment
c. NXXXX – Productivity Payment
d. NXXXX – Warm clothing allowance

e. I also take part in a work saving scheme, where colleagues contribute a certain sum into a pool, which is then given to a particular person. Bleep is contributed every month and each individual receives Bleep every 4-5 months.

3. Additional information on First Bank Account Statement – My First Bank account functions primarily as a savings/investment account. All funds into my First Bank account have been credited from my GTB account. I have attached my GTB current account statement to provide evidence of these transfers.

4. Additional Information on GTB Pounds Sterling Account – This account attests to my savings culture as the sums therein have been saved since 2010. These sums represent saving from salaries and other allowances from my previous jobs.
5. Cost of trip: I attached in my earlier application, my travel itinerary and cost of travel to me personally. Apart from shared costs of taxi, for example, this trip is funded by each person as we both are entitled to holiday allowances at the beginning of our annual holiday.

6. I have been to several countries within and outside the Commonwealth on work and non-work related issues and at no point breached the terms of visa granted.

7. I have a stable job with prospects for growth. I also take care of my widowed mother and do not intend to breach visa conditions in the United Kingdom.

8. My husband and I have also purchased land on which we plan to build our family home.


I am of the firm belief that the ECO did not put these financial and emotional ties into consideration before reaching his/her decision. The money paid by my employer (AMCON) is meant to take care/augment my trip to the UK thus putting my in a good financial position to undertake the trip. I have social and family ties here in Nigeria, a brilliant career, working with the Federal Government of Nigeria with the full complement of retirement benefits and pension plan, a supportive family and good intention to visit the UK.


I am of the view that I meet all the requirements under the paragraph 41 of the immigration Acts as promulgated by the House of Commons of the UK and appeal that my application is reviewed fairly in light of the above information which depict financial stability and ties.


Thank you.
Welldone! Well-drafted... Letter seems good however I'm not sure about the purpose of the c/letter... It seems to me like an appeal letter challenging, or requesting an admin review for a previous decision, rather than a correct c/letter for a new application including vital suporting info omitted in innocence in a previous application.

Also, you may have addressed, for example the issue of the 8 unknown payments, but it's not clearly stated in your letter. It takes a second and probably third reading to actually tie those payments to your employer, your akawo, and probably friends you help buy things for- maybe cos i'v read ur earlier posts. But I'm wondering if the case worker can relate to these.

Ideally, your new application should look more of a "resubmission" while correcting those flaws raised, rather than a contest, or if you like, appeal against decisions made in the past application, otherwise, you won't need to pay a fresh visa fee if you actually think the ECO made a mistake in his decision. Just go for an appeal which save for family visitor, it's curtailed to only human rights grounds, however you can relate your issue to it.

I can understand your emotions have factored in as this can be very upsetting. I suggest you decide what purpose you want it to meet; An appeal against a previous decision or an application for a favourable decision due you. Tweak the letter a little bit, remove some bits insinuating your letter is "appeal against" their previous decision, and I'm sure you'll be fine.

In all, this is plainly My Own Opinion. I may be right, I may be wrong, but then it's up to you at the end of the day. Rethink it.

Best wishes.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 2:03pm On Aug 05, 2014
LadyWolfe: I certainly declared the refusal of last year and even explained improvement in circumstance (ie promotion and travel to US and Europe on official assignment).

The only reasons for refusal were the deposits to my account and a comment they had already refused my husband for lack of funds. Our balances combined were almost 3m. Turnover on the accounts were almost double as most of our allowances are paid upfron early in the year.
If you would, reapply ASAP, now its still fresh in their memory. Just update your outdated documents, prepare all other details and cover loop holes, and on your cover letter, address the issues raised and state that you have provided further details on the said alien transactions made in your accounts.

Just as you have explained it here, put it down der. It's not gonna be a problem. They only wanna be sure u didn't do money lodgement and like i always suggest, if you are making applications and prior to then you recently had new payment habits in your supporting account(s) be sure to minute down on your form the reason for the new trend of money flow in the account cos it can easily be taken as money lodgement.

Nothing wrong with you purchasing stuffs for people and them crediting your account, it just needs to be delineated.

Another thing,and this is IMO and has worked, don't put figures in your itinerary. Just put a schedule of your activities you can take this or Diss it.

All the best.
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 1:35pm On Aug 05, 2014
skintouch: G&G is a cousin or should I say brother to all those claire products.....name them,sivo claire,bio claire,pea claire etc...and they are so cheap...and u knw wat,those cheap articles can only end up damaging ur skin,cos they are all made up dangerous ingredients..infact u. Will end up having the ugliest stretch marks in d whole wide world......not only dat,both green and varicose veins will emerge from no where...,and also different colorations.u'll end up hating urself....could remember years back wen I went to my uncle's place,her adjacent neighbour,a lady,was using those disgusting products and she irritates......and so many oncoming girls use it without knowing their consequencies.....so pls,4get about those products.....I still insist,G&G or watever its called is one of them,that's if its not their landlord.......hahahahahaha...believe me its no joke.....if u need to work on ur skin naturally,I have a skin doc,ever green,he can handle ur case,.....and pls people always base on products dat is made of herbal,its more of natural than G&G brother stuff........the review on the lotion pure skin is dat,I'dnt really like cote Di'voire products,they are more of bleaching,try indian stuffs,they mainly base on herbal and they are natural too....thank u my people.....I love u all....some day wen I become the president of this country,I'll treat all of u well....one peace,one love,one nation......
One thing you fail to know is that GnG is all natural, at least the one I buy from Paks Cosmetics, uk. Like other products, there maybe products made for other markets that may contain HQ or Roids and u may have used one of them ones. Ask greenfriend. For example, I use fair and white with vit c in my natural mix. I get a glow when it's the UK brand (it's got KA). But if I try it with naija own, I will whiten in days and darken in the next week, not forgetting the dark knuckles. That's cos of the HQ, plus sensitivity to sun. Let's read the content of what we put on our skins first.
Another example is dis. when I was using QEI+, I bought it directly from the distributor in London. QEI+ is all natural, but in nigerian markets, the QEI+ contains traces of HQ; it may be pirated, or just for foreign markets like Nigeria. Albeit, the QEI+ I got here, plus the serums I downed into my mix, gave me green veins. That's a clear issue of SKIN THINNING. Certainly from excessive exfoliation and overload of lighteners. What did I do? I discontinued use. But that's not to say QEI+ is a scare or to warn people against it. I've just learned that if I gotta use it again, I won't mix up to 4 serums to 250g again.

Having said that, i'll say the GnG pink lid is a gentle exfoliating and works well when mixed with the oil And probably any other lightening cream as base (eg H55+).

Hope this helps.
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 10:38pm On Aug 04, 2014
Greenfriend: Would like 2 discuss more with U. U will be a fast learner
I'm here for you smiley cheesy =)

Greenfriend: Use Carotein Lightening & Fading Gel Cream. Thank me later
Oh yes. I use that. But lemme add for the poster, there are two fade gel creams, one is oil free so you might wanna consider that if you have acne-prone skin like me. Then again, I find that the fade cream and the fade gel don't work magic on their own. Better results when mixed with he carotein serum. But then the serum, though is a wonder-worker, is quite heavy so you might wanna mix it in very small quantity say 5-8 drops to 2-3 spoons of the fade cream sans oil and/or gel. I make about 20ml carotein mix and it lasts me for bout two months. So make your mix in small quantities so that, of course the potency doesn't wear out.

Carotein has mulberry and licorice (will check my bottle wink ) and I know that it gives me a golden glow rather than the faded white face you get from kojic acid. That's not to say koji acid isn't good but a little bit of vitamin c will give a better golden undertone.

So try it as Greenfriend has suggested... And remember to thank Greenfriend later. Cos you'll begin to see results within two days. I saw mine, no kidding!!! But then it was my mix. smiley
TravelRe: Nigerian Students In The Uk How Do You Survive? by 3sha4lyf: 4:31pm On Aug 04, 2014
For scholarship "lookers" lol, I thought this might be of interest to you.
Disclaimer!
I'm not affiliated with the sponsors. Just reposting a useful post.

=D
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 4:05pm On Aug 04, 2014
LadyWolfe: Thanks 3sha4lyf

We can actually re-apply immediately using the same documents I dont know if its allowed to do so. All we may be adding is a cover note to address the concerns raised. Would this work or are we required to submit new letters of introduction and bank statements? The large cash sums are our upfront payments and movement of money from my salary account to a savings account with another bank.

Any advice?

Justwise, your input also will be appreciated
Yeah you can resubmit some of them like bank statements, letter from employer or introduction etc, as long as they are dated within 28days (which may be unlikely following the visa app duration in Nigeria), otherwise get an update.
You can list dem out here for more assistance from others.
Remember to put down some bullet points in the "additional info to be considered" section, and then refer then to your cover letter where you've elaborated them.
TravelRe: Main Reasons Many Are Refused Visas by 3sha4lyf:
worry359: You are replying to something that you don't understand and have made yourself look ignorant!
You have opened your mouth before thinking and understanding my question!

It the sponsor was in the country that the poster wants to visit that is a big red flag.
It may look like the poster has no reason to return home.

As the sponsor is in the home country of the poster they may be able to show this as links to home.
It will not be easy and it will need a good explanation of why someone would sponsor the person.
I may not be far from the truth to say that you are very feisty by nature, and you can't even hide it even on a forum. Smdh.

Regardless of where sponsor is, if you've got no ties back home, a sponsor cannot sit in for that.
Their visa principles be like this;, a sponsor may be able to cater to your proposed trip but a sponsor cannot guarantee your exit out of the UK at the end of the proposed trip.
Whether your sponsor is home or abroad, if you are unemployed, have no responsibilities, in fact, no ties whatsoever to ur home country, a UK visa is likely to be unlikely. Likewise if the sponsor was abroad.
And that isn't to say it's impossible becos of cos we see exceptions as every application is catered to in their own merits.

Like Wards and children, young adults may be sponsored if, for example they are students, yet to go on NYSC, etc. Then those things serve as the so-called ties. Eg. Studies.

Not having an argument on this with you.

@ poster, I'm assuming you are an adult, you can discern for yourself. Tx
TravelRe: Main Reasons Many Are Refused Visas by 3sha4lyf: 2:40pm On Aug 04, 2014
worry359: Sponsor in home country or in country that you wish to visit?
Lol...what does it matter, really? sponsors can't guarantee that the traveller will return to his/her country after the end of the trip so they are really not a bonafide tie to home country.

However, if applicant is a sponsor, say, had some wards or commitments back home, that's ok. smiley

Good job worry359
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 2:35pm On Aug 04, 2014
LadyWolfe: Hello Justwise and all contributors,

My family visit visa was refused, along with my husband. Cited cases of cash lodgement and that we didnt show evidence that we could fund the trip (we both earn close to 750k permonth).

I save money is another account seperate from my salary account, I guess I failed to explain that.

How soon can we re-apply if we wish to address the issues raised by the ECO; or how do we request for administrative review?

Our planned holiday is in October.
If you really wanna go in Oct, I would suggest you don't bother bout admin review cos it would take nothing less than 2 weeks for a response and analysis of previous decision made.

You can reapply as soon as you have your documents ready, and have corrected the issues addressed in your refusal letter, plus any other possible reason for another refusal. So in essence, I'm saying if you are very prepared, you can reapply today. It's all about preparedness than cooling-off period, if you see what I mean.

All the best.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf:
JADESOLA15: Hey guys...
... UK visa and my employer is sponsoring me to UK as the Best Outstanding Member of Staff 2013. I have the following Documents:
...
7. UK Visa Page of 10yrs of The Chairman---> NOT SURE WHY YOU NEED THIS ...
10 My wife letter of appointment, and offer/NHIS Enrollment form---> NOT SURE WHY YOU NEED THIS
Concerns:
"This is my issue, My Take home is just 78k, ... I presently dont have a dime in this account as I used all to set up a small business."
---> YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS IN YOUR FORM, i.e "AT THE MOMENT, I AM IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP A SMALL-SCALE BUSINESS, AND WITH MY MONTHLY EARNINGS, HENCE THE LOW ACCOUNT BALANCE IN STATEMENT PROVIDED"

"I have a personal GTB account that I can not explain different logdements and the inflow and out flow cos of the way my clients(outside jobs) pay me and the little business that I do ..."
---> YOUVE JUST EXPLAINED HOW THE ORIGIN AND PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCOUNT SO YOU SHOULDNT HAVE PROBS SUMMARISING THAT IN YOUR FORM. THIS IS IMPORTANT

"I used all my savings to set up a small salon in my area..."
---> YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL AND INCLUDE THE "INSURANCE POLICY" TO SUPPORT THIS. (also consider registering your business name -if you already haven't- and include it as well)

"Now, in my application im filling online presently, I said i dont have any savings at all ..."
---> WHAT ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS? THAT COULD ALSO ACT AS A REASON FOR YOU TO RETURN AKA TIE TO NIGERIA (IMO, eventhough u present a picture like you "are into your job", your salary seems minute to convince the ECO that your job is actually a STRONG TIE) ]

"Someone said i should not bother including my GTB statement of Account."
---> I WOULD SAY INCLUDE IT. COS IT CAN SUPPORT YOUR SME BUSINESS CLAIM, IF YOU SHOULD DO AS SUGGESTED ABOVE

"I also said I have around 1200GBP for flights, Ticket trains etc, another 625GBP for accomadation, and another 220GBP for living cost and another 1000GBP as what I have for the trip totaling: 3024GBP. ..."
---> shocked shocked shocked SORRY, I CHOKED ON THOSE UNDERLINED FIGURES... huh

"Another friend ask me to tell my employer to pay the total cost of the trip ..."
---> THIS CAN ALSO WORK...

"The question is this, what are my chances of getting a tourist visa"


GOT SOME OTHER CONCERNS...
* What would you be doing in the UK when you travel? (What's your itinerary? You didn't include that. You still need to show how u intend to spend d days of ur stay in uk)
* proof of salary ie Payslipshuh
* I'm just a bit curious, how come your coy will spend apprx £3000 for you on a tour trip? I know you've "been awarded best ov'all staff" but then, how do you explain that a £3k trip to UK is your "gift"? It's well over 1000% of your income. But guess what, my thoughts doesn't matter because, hey, I'm NOT The ECO neither do we share the same thoughts all the time.
* Are you the first staff getting such a bounty from your coy? Can be helpful if your coy gives this sort of bounty to its other staff and you can include this history to further support your app.

These are just my opinions and doesn't reflect that of the ECO. smiley
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 12:27am On Aug 03, 2014
Oseni007: The Nigerian passport has a 5yrs validity b4 it expires,he has been to the UK on several occassion with a 2yrs nd 5yrs visitors visa,what he meant now is if he can apply for a 10yrs visitors visa and be granted since the Nigerian passport only has 5yrs b4 expiration or cant Nigerians apply for the 10yrs visiting visa because of our passport.
Oh seeeeeeennnn. My bad. Should have read it well. Tx.

alyorubawy: gudday nairalanders, pls i want to inquire if i can get a 10yrs uk visitors visa on a nigerian passport with a 5yrs validity. i am a frequent traveller and been to the uk before with a 2yrs visa in 2000 and also 5yrs visa in 2005.pls ur input will b appreciated.
Of course you can, as long as it has (I think) at least six months validity left on the passport.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 7:27pm On Aug 02, 2014
alyorubawy: gudday nairalanders, pls i want to inquire if i can get a 10yrs uk visitors visa on a nigerian passport with a 5yrs validity. i am a frequent traveller and been to the uk before with a 2yrs visa in 2000 and also 5yrs visa in 2005.pls ur input will b appreciated.
How do u mean?
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 11:04am On Aug 02, 2014
fem30: I do understand that it is slow for some people to grasp certain things. When we say speed kills and as such please drive at a slow speed, it doesn't mean we are pessimistic or prophets of doom. It simply means we know the realities and the risks involved hence the advise. You however failed to even recognise that I stated that there are exceptions.
In this analogy, the OP is asking how he can make his fuel consumption at high speed cheaper and we are telling him that it is wiser not to drive at high speed at all because there is a very high likelihood of a fatal accident but you are here saying all what we are saying it being pessimistic because a lot of people drive at high speed and nothing happened.
I think I am out of this page because a word is said to be usually enough for the wise yet I have written paragraphs.

@OP, all the best but I would sincerely love to read from you on how this ended.
Smh!!!
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 11:03am On Aug 02, 2014
charis3: Sorry! But who knows someone might very well need it here too.
Yh... Lol.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf:
joxiri: There was documentary evidence to back up all that
A letter from both the applicant and his employers addressing the large sums in the account
There was a hotel booking so the applicant did not intend to go and visit the person it was only included as someone he knows in the uk
As it was better than saying you don't know anyone in the uk
Just curious... Did the letter from both applicant and coy give reasons why coy funds were deposited into personal accounts instead of coy account OR they merely confirmed and attested that, yes, indeed the money is from a "legal" source, and by coy, etc?
These are two different issues to be addressed. One, Where did the money come from, and Two, why this account instead of the coy account, since it's for business-related purpose, for example, if you see what I mean.
Remember you applicant also stated that (s)he doesn't receive other income asides his employer. So how do u explain "payments" with receipts from someone, say ur employer, into ur account? By their understanding, and I'm guessing, though I may not b far from the truth, receipts are proof of payment, and they acknowledge that something has been paid for, or has been received. So what was paid for? Certainly not salary. It should be some goods or services rendered, which should have been explained in the form. But if you say u don't receive income elsewhere other than from your employer, it contradicts even the receipts provided, if that makes sense.
Then, the 4th paragraph reads "you say you will be visiting your friend Dr. Lilian Awere in the Uk..." .
Two things, it's either the applicant indicated that, or the ECO has made a wrong assumption. If the latter is the case, then applicant should point this out in the reapplication. Reason for previous refusal should be that the ECO wrongly assumed that applicant will be visiting friend in uk, whereas applicant had indicated "No" to the question (quote the number).
Mind you, if this isn't the case, you may not need to bother challenging the decision becos you may end up factoring in deceit and earning a 10yrs ban.
If you say it's ur friend (not you), ask ur friend very well about the details of that 4th paragraph.

Ps. I'm not antagonising you by any means and I apologise if I come across as such. You just need to critically assess that refusal letter so that you can correct future mistakes, should the applicant decide to reapply.
FashionRe: Reviews Of The Best Skin Lightening Products You Have Ever Used. by 3sha4lyf: 12:09am On Aug 02, 2014
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TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf:
joxiri: Unfortunatley my friends application was refused

Justwise vijustice and co pls chew on this
As far as am concerned this is just bias towards the applicant in light of his previous refusals
The usual no ties to nigeria wasn't even mentioned
Which means they do believe he has ties
Since when did one have to provide a reason for choosing the uk as a tourist destination
Last I checked it wasn't a ? On the form and considering he has been refused in the past doesn't that alreadyshow the intent of wanting to visit uk, I mean its not a fresh application
The large sums in the account where explained with invoices being a sales executive
And he booked hotel so I dnt see why there is a need for an invitation letter or evidence from the person in uk
It was a general tourist visa
Last I checked I thot only name and number sufficed except u intended to stay with the person
There isn't a single concrete reason for his refusal
Advice on where to go fomr here would be much appreciated
Wow... It's unfortunate. However, I think the way forward is understanding the reasons for the refusals, which I think you've clearly misunderstood, and I'll give my reasons based on the refusal letter u posted and an assumption that the letter referred to supporting documents the applicant supplied.
Since when did one have to provide a reason for choosing the uk as a tourist destination.
While they acknowledged that it's not a prerequisite to provide in particular a reason for choosing uk as a holiday site, I'm sure they clearly needed an itinerary. Did the applicant include an itinerary?
Last I checked it wasn't a ? On the form and considering he has been refused in the past doesn't that alreadyshow the intent of wanting to visit uk, I mean its not a fresh application
True, but since they assume all applicants are potential immigrants, they can assume the applicant is hell-bent on "migrating" to the uk and probably beyond the leave.
The large sums in the account where explained with invoices being a sales executive
Very well, the applicant included invoices to show the sources of the funds i.e the receipts n invoices, but failed to give reasons why, as the. ECO pointed out, those "business" funds were paid into the applicants "personal" account which (s)he provided as supporting evidence for funds available for the trip.
And he booked hotel so I dnt see why there is a need for an invitation letter or evidence from the person in uk
It was a general tourist visa

But the ECO letter clearly shows that applicant claimed to be visiting a friend "Dr Lilian A.". So of course, if you put down you're visiting a someone in the uk, you should be able to show that that visit is indeed gonna be a welcomed one. An IV or a letter of acknowledgement/consent in most cases, proves this.
Last I checked I thot only name and number sufficed except u intended to stay with the person
Unfortunately, if you say you will visit someone in the uk, the persons name and no is not sufficient enough to back that up, not when you've never made a return trip to the uk.
There isn't a single concrete reason for his refusal
I'm assuming all reasons were effects of the "inadequate" supporting documents the applicant provided.
Advice on where to go fomr here would be much appreciated
I would say read through the refusal letter and if you must reapply, address those issues, plus other probable and imminent issue that may arise, and put in your application.

Hope this helps.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by 3sha4lyf: 10:39pm On Aug 01, 2014
Castalia: Please help with this issue.

I have already booked for an appointment with VFS Ikeja for Tuesday 9.am. for submission.
All of a sudden, I get a mail from work. Long and short, I WONT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT FOR TUESDAY.
Can I change the appointment? What exactly do I do?

Thanks
Yes you can. Go back to the portal and reschedule the appointment, preferably before Tuesday.
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 10:33pm On Aug 01, 2014
fem30: My friend, my post and your response can be likened to me advising the OP not to speed above 120km/hr because speed kills and you are giving the excuse that even those that drive below 80km/hr are killed at that speed and as such it is very okay to drive above 120km/hr.

I understand there are exceptions however, the person quoted below and me are telling you the hard but bitter truth. And by the way, I agree that even in same house, a cheat can always cheat however, my point is that LDR's multiplies the chances of cheating and in all honestly, it rarely leads to marriage which is the aim of a good intentioned relationship (correct me if I am wrong).
Wrong!!! Some people are married today out of LDRs. Some people are still doing LDRs in marriage. Sometimes, people should try and be positive for once. If you wanna progress in life, don't compare or liken yourself to failures. Instead use successful people as your yardstick. Thank you!

Please can we leave this issue... You have your views, stick with it. I have my positive view, I'll cling to it. Nairaland continues.
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 12:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
ogawisdom: Ve u ever heard d word probability, nobody is talkin abt cheatin we r talking abt d probability of LDR working out compare to close DR. D issues to deal wit in LDR is much higher n its probability of success much lower but dt doesn't mean it ll never work out. A wise man is d one who learn frm the experiences of others n nt his own experience.
My take
I quoted two of you (with ashonibarenla)... cheating came into the matter as hour mentioned straffing some other person's real deal.
Yes there's more to deal with in LDR but I'm sure Ppl who do it are also willing to deal with the issues to the best of their abilities and if it doesn't work out at the end, they'll beat their chests that they tried their best, and move on. F2F relationship is no bulletproof for this same issues. In fact, it's even more painful to know that some F2F crashes becos some people for example, dunno how to respect their partner's "me-time".
So people who wanna respect others' "me - times" while wanting same, last longer in LDRs and are completely honest in it.

So pls let's suggest cost effective ways of communicating for op. smiley
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 9:13am On Aug 01, 2014
ogawisdom: LDR is a no no hw can u get to kw sb by only talking on phone. It doesn't work most of d times huh Remember as a girl there ll b other guys coming for her within her area n its a matter of time before she chooses one n uses u as a back up plan wen u r wastin ur money to keep d rship.
D only gud thing is dt she calls u but I kw its nt as often as u do.
Start looking for someone to love in Abuja lover boy.
Ashonibarenla: LDR. That word alone puts me off my tea. I gave it all my shot and it worked, or so i thought. for good seven months, i was like, 'if you set your hrt at it, den u cn make it wrk', meanwhile, no be small money i dy invest 4 d relationship o, and she was not working, as at then . I was all d calling, texting, even send ha rcharg card. Until i realised i was purnishn myself. Am d type dt cherish physical intimacy alot and that just wasnt happenin, and when i see georgeous gals pass, am lyk 'Victor, she o ponu ni', abi omo yi ti de e ni? To cut the long story short, i ended the relationship to prevent any messy mess. So my friend, this is my advice, take into consideration all d advice dats been offad 2 u, bt d fact is dz, nth works lyk 'see me, i see you', seeing each oda @least 2ce weekly. try and see if u cn arrnge ha 2 make a 1c per wk trip 2 ur place, if nt, let ha choose d one convenient. This way, you get to see each oda @least once or twice per mnth. Else, i pray you wont waste your time n investment, both of u, as av com 2 realise i did.
Relationship experts, well done. Let it be known that if a girl will cheat, she'll do it even if it means doing it immediately she walks out of your door to hers. Likewise a guy. So if you police ur patner or thing face-to-face relationships works better than LDRs, then you're all joking.

People with cheating tendencies care less about proximity AND faithful lovers don't even bother about distance. So pls quit dissing [the] poor girl[s].
Can u also beat your chest that men are faithful in face-2-face relationships talk more of LDRs? Pls let's stick to the thread... how to make cheaper calls. smiley
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 7:58am On Aug 01, 2014
fem30: Well, I don't subscribe to anything distant. Not even long distance bizness. My experience has shown that while some dude somewhere is doing all the lovey-dovey, I am the one servicing and greasing her engine full time. I am not talking of one,two or even three cases; neither am I referring to distant relationships were the lady is in nigeria alone, I am talking uk, US and Germany. The guys are doing the calling, I am doing the strafing. The guys sometimes even call when we are at it. Most of them picks the calls, feign sleep, headache or busy.
It is pathetic. My advise is for you to have a relationship where u can see your partner regularly. The European and American winters sometimes, increase the longings of the women. To be forewarned is to be fore-armed.
Just the sameway ur strafing other people's distance real-deal, is the same way someone is strafing you next door real-deal, even the one you are with 23/7. So wether you see your partner 23-24 hours each day, 10mins sleep is enough for her to creep out n grease her engine elsewhere if she wants to!

So, dat you lavish ppl's distant real-deals doesn't mean distant relationship is weird. After all, face-to-face/neighbouring partners still cheat under their partners "closed" eyes, even if their r living together under one roof.

You've had several "monkey-work-baboon-chops" relationships, Big deal, but pls leave the op to maintain his distant relationship, in a less costly way which he's asking for ideas.

Not all girls have hot pants. Op's girlfriend may be one of such girls without Hotpants.

smiley
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 7:44am On Aug 01, 2014
onomesimple: if i was to be in ur shoe i will meet my network provided and ask for a package that will suit me and my love, some network provided have it . so it up to you
Yes, sum ntwrks have it but the problem is that for some reasons I still find unanswered, the staff are not usually happy to tell you the "cheapest" plan to get on. They'll rather rope you into the "reigning" plan, ie, the one that is on adverts and jingles today.

They could be sooooo... I dont understand. Even services that should be free, and the coy has actually announced to customers that it's free, you'll find staff asking customers to pay.
Mtchew.
RomanceRe: Distant Relationships And Phone Calls by 3sha4lyf: 11:31pm On Jul 31, 2014
Get an iPhone dear for both of you...

Use FaceTime and you'll not only hear her voice on the audio but you can also see and read her lips with FaceTime Video.

However. You'll need a data plan which you can of course get on any network, Etisalat Nigeria being the most generous, I heard.

FaceTime uses less data than any other video or VOIP calls.

Hope this helps.

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