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Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:00pm On Apr 22, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


I never agreed Jesus was created. I am trying to expose the OP's falsehood.

Oga, Why is Adam , Angels and Jesus called Son if God ?

What make them Sons ?

grin is this too hard
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Hairyrapunzel: 6:01pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


If I say Yusuf is a son of Buhari, you will know why right ? grin

If you can't answer why Adam, Angels and Jesus are called Son of God in your Bible , then you must be very silly to accuse them that what they teach is False.

Give me proof Its false, by telling me why Adam , Angels and Jesus are called Son of God ? Why the Father is never addressed as Son of anyone?

It's getting logical, and this is where all religious brainwashing are exposed .

You keep running since , the question will keep following you everywhere until you answer.

Till you stop speculating and provide a bible verse we will discuss the matter

Yusuf isn't Jesus and buhari isn't God.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:02pm On Apr 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:

The question did not contain mountains. Mountains don't mean anything in my doctrine. Mountain isn't Jesus and Jesus isn't mountain. The Bible was clear on the position of Jesus Christ.
I don't deal on speculations. Give me a verse. And we will discuss

grin My neighbours are laughing so hard reading this daft response .

grin grin grin

Oga so no Bible verse said Mountains are Created ?
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:03pm On Apr 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:


Till you stop speculating and provide a bible verse we will discuss the matter

Yusuf isn't Jesus and buhari isn't God.

Do you went to school at all !

Why is anyone called SON of another ?
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Hairyrapunzel: 6:06pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


Do you went to school at all !

Why is anyone called SON of another ?
Since the father was not created why would the one only son be created?

No I did not WENT to school.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:08pm On Apr 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:

Since the father was not created why would the one only son be created?

No I did not WENT to school.

Until you unravel why they are termed * Son "

Why is he a SON ?

Why is Adam also a SON ?

Pls guys I need answer
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Hairyrapunzel: 6:09pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


grin My neighbours are laughing so hard reading this daft response .

grin grin grin

Oga so Mountains are not created ?

Your neighbors love speculation. That's why they have been told not to question their leaders. They don't use their brains and don't think for themselves. It is expected.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:12pm On Apr 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:


Your neighbors love speculation. That's why they have been told not to question their leaders. They don't use their brains and don't think for themselves. It is expected.

Laughter gallore grin grin . as in

So no Bible verse that say mountains are Created ?

Pls am waiting, why is it hard for you to find ?

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Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:14pm On Apr 22, 2018
Somebody should come and bail Hairyrapunzel here, and help him answer the questions.

Bible did not say mountains are created. Its all speculation ? grin grin grin

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Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:16pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


Oga, Why is Adam , Angels and Jesus called Son if God ?

What make them Sons ?

grin is this too hard

We are talking of Jesus whom the scriptures described that Jehovah made all things{ without exception} through him.
And without Him nothing was made that was created.

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Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:18pm On Apr 22, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


We are talking of Jesus whom the scriptures described that Jehovah made all things{ without exception} through him.
And without Him nothing was made that was created.

My question still stand Bruh, Jesus was called Son of God ? Yes or no. Tell us why ? Cos even Adam was called son of God too.



Using your logic of no exception

The same Bible said Jesus was before ALL things ? No exception of his Father ?
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:21pm On Apr 22, 2018
grin grin grin
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:24pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Okay. Was the woman created before the beginning?
the Lord possess wisdom in the beginning of his way not before the beginning.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Hairyrapunzel: 6:27pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


Until you unravel why they are termed * Son "

Why is he a SON ?

Why is Adam also a SON ?

Pls guys I need answer

Adam was created by God.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:27pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I am trying to sound reasonable to you but you keep throwing insults. I am asking a simple question. Just answer me, please. Was the 'She'(according to you) created before the beginning?
where is the insult? Nope wisdom was not created before the beginning.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Hairyrapunzel: 6:28pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


My question still stand Bruh, Jesus was called Son of God ? Yes or no. Tell us why ? Cos even Adam was called son of God too.



Using your logic of no exception

The same Bible said Jesus was before ALL things ? No exception of his Father ?

Did you see exception of the father there? And yes Jesus is before all things. Come and beat me
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:33pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


so All is not absolute ? grin grin grin

Apply the same logic when you see all things are made through him . doesn't mean all things in the absolute sense, He is excluded since he was created by His Father .

grin
read according to context
That verse is talking of all things that were created. Was God the father created? Using all other things instead of all things would mean that not all created things came through Christ which is not true for without Christ nothing created would have existed.
The bible was specific in saying all things created and not uncreated things.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:37pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


Beginning is Never source .

A man said:

Joseph is the beginning of my procreative power .

Does it mean Joseph is source or the first of his Sons ?

Simply means Jesus is the first/beginning of creations of God.

Use your brain grin grin
the beginning of a river means the source of a river. The beginning of God's creation is the source.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:43pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


grin grin fear dey catch you ni . let's proceed

Isaac was also called the ONLY BEGOTTEN son of Abraham , and Abraham did this by virtue of sexual inter course . fine

How is Jesus begotten ? By Sex or Creation ?

I need answer guys
you ask foolish questions. There was no time Jesus was ever begotten. Jesus has always been the son of God from eternity he is the perfect and complete reflection of God the Father in everything.
His the only son that was not created.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:47pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


grin grin

Okay let me open your brains

Isaac was called Abraham only begotten son ... How was Isaac begotten?

To help you: Begotten means to produce an offspring.

Now Tell us How Jesus was Produced as well ?
Begotten is figuratively does not mean to create or to produce
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:48pm On Apr 22, 2018
How can you explain Proverbs 8:24 and 27?
solite3:
where is the insult? Nope wisdom was not created before the beginning.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 6:53pm On Apr 22, 2018
Okay, let us go by your logic in comparison with Genesis 1:1.
Which did God create in the beginning, Wisdom or the heavens and the earth in the beginning?

If wisdom was produced in the Beginning, was the beginning before the heavens? In Proverbs 8:27
solite3:
the Lord possess wisdom in the beginning of his way not before the beginning.
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:56pm On Apr 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:


Adam was created by God.
grin

And that make him Son of God right ?
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Ihateyoumod: 6:58pm On Apr 22, 2018
Peacefullove:


grin grin fear dey catch you ni . let's proceed

Isaac was also called the ONLY BEGOTTEN son of Abraham , and Abraham did this by virtue of sexual inter course . fine

How is Jesus begotten ? By Sex or Creation ?

I need answer guys

Jesus is eternally begotten of the Father..... Begotten not made. If Isaac was called Abraham only begotten son, what relationship has tht got to do with Jesus??
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 6:59pm On Apr 22, 2018
solite3:
Begotten is figuratively does not mean to create or to produce
See your life . hahahaha

Who tell you that , the Bible said begotten is figuratively ? grin grin

Its figurative in the case of Isaac too I guess ? grin

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Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Ihateyoumod: 6:59pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
So, was wisdom formed before the beginning or after the beginning?

Stop asking me wen wisdom was formed, read it I'm verse 23. The answer u seek is there
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2018
Who is Wisdom or what is wisdom?
Ihateyoumod:

Stop asking me wen wisdom was formed, read it I'm verse 23. The answer u seek is there
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 7:02pm On Apr 22, 2018
Ihateyoumod:


Jesus is eternally begotten of the Father..... Begotten not made. If Isaac was called Abraham only begotten son, what relationship has tht got to do with Jesus??


How was Jesus begotten ? By sex like that of Isaac or how ? Pls answer and stop dodging.


Isaac was called ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , yet he has a beginning. And was produced by someone

Will you apply the same logic to Jesus ? Take note the exact same word was used for Jesus grin grin
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Nobody: 7:02pm On Apr 22, 2018
What is your definition of begotten?
Is there any Bible reference to support your answer?
Ihateyoumod:

Jesus is eternally begotten of the Father..... Begotten not made. If Isaac was called Abraham only begotten son, what relationship has tht got to do with Jesus??
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 7:04pm On Apr 22, 2018
solite3:
read according to context
That verse is talking of all things that were created. Was God the father created? Using all other things instead of all things would mean that not all created things came through Christ which is not true for without Christ nothing created would have existed.
The bible was specific in saying all things created and not uncreated things.

Now take your advice and read according to context as well. The same bible chapter says

Jesus is the First BORN of Creation ... How was he born ? Of creation ?

Answer that
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 7:11pm On Apr 22, 2018
solite3:
you ask foolish questions. There was no time Jesus was ever begotten .

Hahahaha, so your bible Lied by calling him begotten son ? grin grin



Jesus has always been the son of God from eternity



Twins of God OR son of God? grin

Definition of a son please and let's see if the Jargon's you put up there will Still stand



he is the perfect and complete reflection of God the Father in everything.
His the only son that was not created.

Brainless individual speaks like this :

Define a son ? And also tell why his Father was never addressed as son of anyone if been a son doesn't mean been created ?

Is Father should have been called son as well since it has nothing to do with creation status
Re: My Prayer For Trinitarians by Peacefullove: 7:16pm On Apr 22, 2018
solite3:
the beginning of a river means the source of a river. The beginning of God's creation is the source.

Where is your sense Sir ?

Beginning of a river is PART of the River .

Beginning of Creation is Part of Creation , agreed ?

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