Sagamite:

Thanks!!!

I was looking at the fashion and the hairstyles and thinking is that not when I[b] used to dance on Soul Train TV[/b].

~Bluetooth:

paddy lo posts has been really educative and i suggest you learn from it.nothing bad in learning from others cuz you dont seem to know what really makes a slum.thanks

Sagamite:

I am sorry.

I must have missed something.

I believe I am trying to learn from you when I said you should educate me where you saw a skyscraper as you claimed in Ajegunle?

Or am I wrong?

paddy lo seems to be misintepreting poverty, destitution and crime with slums.

Although they sometime come hand-in-hand, he erred to use those qualities to define a slum. People in slums are poor. That does not mean every poor place is a slum.

So because there is no crime in Makoko it is high brow?

~Bluetooth:

from the wiki source provided,it is evident from it that not only poor buildings qualify a slum but also insecurity and poverty.

Sagamite:

I think insecurity and poverty are peripheral to the core of the understanding (at least from the generic use of the term as we understand it).

The core, major and dominant part of the description is the shabby, insalubrious and medieval living environments of the neighbourhood.

~Bluetooth:

would rich people live in a slum ? No. . .so lack of money must have made people to settle for slums.in abuja,when the demolition of slums was carried out,the settlers had to move to the outskirt of the city to resettle themselves while those that could pay the over-priced available apartments had to pay just to stay in the city.the point is that there is always an available for the poor anywhere.

~Bluetooth:

paddy lo posts has been really educative and i suggest you learn from it

~Bluetooth:

would rich people live in a slum  ? No. . .so lack of money must have made people to settle for slums.in abuja,when the demolition of slums was carried out,the settlers had to move to the outskirt of the city to resettle themselves while those that could pay the over-priced available apartments had to  pay just to stay in the city.the point is that there is always an available for the poor anywhere.

Ileke-IdI:

I beg to differ. Define poor. . . .

~Bluetooth:

there is a big margin between the poor and the rich in nigeria; which is why you can see the rich in nigeria slum.does that answer the question ?

~Bluetooth:

would rich people live in a slum ? No. . .so lack of money must have made people to settle for slums.in abuja,when the demolition of slums was carried out,the settlers had to move to the outskirt of the city to resettle themselves while those that could pay the over-priced available apartments had to pay just to stay in the city.t[b]he point is that there is always an available for the poor anywhere.[/b]

philip0906:

so peeps r still arguing about what a slum is what a pity .we nigerians and our mentality.seems like admitting d truth means conceeding defeat but it has rather led 2 more desperate and blind arguements here.Imagine paddy_lo(whom some of u claimed 2 have made d most sensible arguements here),calling crime ridden neighbourhoods slums and also telling me 2 discard what wikipedia says about slums. some peeps went as far as putting up pix taken in d 80s,pix of abandoned buildings and abandoned factories just 2 justify their claims. . .
I put up a link 4rm wikipedia defining what a slum is(a densely populated area with generally low standard of living) None of these so called slums r densely populated(infact many have fled these run down arease.g detroit).A part also says,"SLUMS WERE ERADICATED IN THE INDUSTRALISED WORLD IN THE 20Th CENTURY" nobody has come up here 2 "discredit" dat quote.what u have in the developed world ain't slums but "run down areas" and "deprived" areas.
Admitting 2 d truth does not mean conceeding defeat cos we all r learning here.

A slum, as defined by the United Nations agency UN-HABITAT, is a run-down area of a city characterized by substandard housing and squalor and lacking in tenure security. According to the United Nations, the proportion of urban dwellers living in slums decreased from 47 percent to 37 percent in the developing world between 1990 and 2005.[3] However, due to rising population, the number of slum dwellers is rising. One billion people worldwide live in slums[4] and the figure will likely grow to 2 billion by 2030.[5]

The term has traditionally referred to housing areas that were once relatively affluent but which deteriorated as the original dwellers moved on to newer and better parts of the city, but has come to include the vast informal settlements found in cities in the developing world.[6]

Many shack dwellers vigorously oppose the description of their communities as 'slums' arguing that this results in them being pathologised and then, often, subject to threats of evictions.[7] Many academics have vigorously criticized UN-Habitat and the World Bank arguing that their 'Cities Without Slums' Campaign has led directly to a massive increase in forced evictions.[8]

~Bluetooth:

would rich people live in a slum ? No. . .so lack of money must have made people to settle for slums.in abuja,when the demolition of slums was carried out,the settlers had to move to the outskirt of the city to resettle themselves while those that could pay the over-priced available apartments had to pay just to stay in the city.the point is that there is always an available for the poor anywhere.

~Bluetooth:

Poor is poor only if you are referring to the middle class who some of them can still afford some extravaganza lifesyle.

paddy_lo:

U wanna Live in North Philly be my guest(P.S VIOLENCE IN PHILADELPHIAs BAD AREAS HAS GOTTEN WORSE)

[size=14pt]Tempers, guns key to child deaths[/size]

By Rose Ciotta, Nancy Phillips and Vernon Clark
INQUIRER STAFF WRITERS
The first horror came in February.

A 10-year-old child was shot in the head on his way to school, killed in the cross fire of battling drug gangs.

In July, a 15-year-old boy was shot in the chest as he rode his bike in Grays Ferry, killed by bullets in a turf war between residents of neighboring streets.

Then, in September, a 13-year-old was gunned down outside a Chinese restaurant in a fight over a broken windshield.

In truth, fewer children have been killed in Philadelphia this year than last - and far fewer than a decade ago.

Yet some of the killings have been so brazen, so public - including some outside schools - that people are outraged.

"How many funerals, how many marches, how many hospital visits does it take before people say it's time to take action?" asks Shelly Yanoff, executive director of Philadelphia Citizens for Children and Youth.

Twenty-seven children have been slain in Philadelphia so far this year.

According to an Inquirer analysis of police homicide data, a lethal mixture of guns and arguments played a major role.

Until last year, the statistics had been encouraging. Homicides of those under 18 had dropped precipitously between 1994 and the end of 2002 - from 50 a year to 21. But the deaths spiked in 2003 - up to 30. And this year is not far behind.

So there is fresh fear that the numbers are creeping up again.

Just last month, Jalil Speaks, 16, was shot to death a block from Strawberry Mansion High School, killed in a volley of gunfire, police say, because he owed someone $50. Three other students were injured in the shootout, which took place in broad daylight shortly after school let out.

The first of many candlelight vigils and marches was held in April, when thousands gathered to mourn 10-year-old Faheem Thomas-Childs, who was killed outside T.M. Peirce Elementary School in February.

The momentum - like the killings - has continued.

On Wednesday community leaders designated December a "month of peace" and called on churches and civic groups to work to ensure that the final weeks of the year pass uninterrupted by tragedy.

Tomorrow the Police Department will announce a new collaboration with the Philadelphia School District to gather more information on potential violence.

And next weekend, antiviolence groups and the city will host a summit on gang violence.

"They're just sick and tired, the community, of all these tragedies," said John C. Appledorn, president of the Citizens Crime Commission of Delaware Valley.

An Inquirer analysis of police homicide data over the last five years found that more than half of the victims under 18 were killed by guns. From January 2000 until last Friday, 129 children were slain, 69 of them by guns.

High crime DOES NOT a slum make!! It is that simple at the end of the day.