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CrimeRe: Nigerian Doctor In UK Caught With Pornographic Pics Of Kids And Animals by 4Play(op): 6:24pm On Aug 30, 2016
kenonze:
Pls this shld not make Front page.

I don't want Names checkers to suck out all the blood left In the 5%
I think Igbo self-esteem can withstand online bashing. It's those who can't laugh at themselves who need worry.
CrimeRe: Nigerian Doctor In UK Caught With Pornographic Pics Of Kids And Animals by 4Play(op): 6:19pm On Aug 30, 2016
The guy has history. See below:

A doctor has been allowed to carry on practising despite being found guilty of professional misconduct for making lewd comments to two 'very vulnerable' women patients.
Cyprian Okoro, a GP from Beckenham, Kent, was yesterday found guilty by the General Medical Council's Professional Misconduct Committee, which imposed conditions on how he could practise for 18 months.

Okoro quizzed a pregnant 16-year-old girl about whether she enjoyed sex with her boyfriend. He also asked her to stick out her tongue to see if she was any good at MouthAction, and suggested that she should touch him.

In a separate incident, Okoro asked a 35-year-old woman recovering from cervical cancer about whether she liked sex, how often she had it, in what positions, and whether her husband had any problems getting an erection.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/apr/09/anthonybrowne.theobserver1
CrimeRe: Nigerian Doctor In UK Caught With Pornographic Pics Of Kids And Animals by 4Play(op): 6:19pm On Aug 30, 2016
Double post
CrimeNigerian Doctor In UK Caught With Pornographic Pics Of Kids And Animals by 4Play(op): 6:09pm On Aug 30, 2016
A doctor was caught with a stash of 'extreme' pornography, including a video of a man having sex with a snake, a court heard.

Cyprian Okoro, 55, allegedly stored the images on his Samsung mobile phone having received them via mobile messaging app WhatsApp, the Old Bailey heard.

They included three videos of a woman having sex with a dog, one of a man having sex with a snake and one of a woman having sex with a horse, jurors were told.

The defendant is on trial charged with five counts of possessing pornography of a 'grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise obscene character'.

Okoro is also accused of one charge of possessing indecent images of a child relating to a video of a two-year-old boy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3765412/Norfolk-doctor-caught-extreme-pornography-mobile-phone-including-video-man-having-sex-SNAKE.html
PoliticsRe: Some Nigerians Beg Okonjo-Iweala To Help With Economy On Facebook. Screen Shots by 4Play(m): 11:30pm On Aug 29, 2016
piagetskinner:
If okonjo and her boss were still in power ...I bet the government would have been borrowing to offset salaries
Unlike today:

By Michael Eboh The Minister of Finance, Mrs. Kemi Adeosun, Thursday, said the ministry cannot afford to pay the N1.2 billion requested by its workers, while she confirmed that the Federal Government was already borrowing funds to be able to pay the N165 billion a month needed to cover civil service salaries.
Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/fg-borrowing-pay-n165bn-civil-service-salaries-adeosun/

Seriki Adinoyi in Jos

The Federal government has again owned up to the crumbling economy of the nation, lamenting that it borrows an average of N600 billion every month to augment payment of workers’ salaries.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/fg-we-borrow-n600-billion-monthly-to-augment-salaries/
Foreign AffairsRe: What Has Gone Wrong In Brazil? by 4Play(m): 11:24pm On Aug 29, 2016
Lula was riding a commodities-induced economic boom which, at the time, many on the left thought was a well grounded riposte to neoliberalism. Once the commodities boom stopped, it became apparent that Brazil had structural economic weaknesses.

The new government, though not representative, will implement sensible reforms which will allow Brazil to recover.
PoliticsRe: Kemi Adeosun Is Nothing But "A Middle Level Accountant" by 4Play(m): 9:35am On Aug 29, 2016
OkoNDOoBo:
Ngozi the vodoo economist.

SHe supervised the depletion of nigeria's foreign reserve. From$47b to $29b during oil boom.
She started borrowing To pay salaries while oil was$74
What will Be the fate of. Nigeria economy now that oil is. Langusihing between $28 to $45 with no maximum production of crude oil
Dishonesty is second nature to Nigerians. NOI was appointed minister in July 2011 when foreign reserves stood at $31.7b -
Nigeria's external reserves which fell on Monday to $31.784 billion Thursday further depleted due to leakages in the country's Joint Venture cash calls.
[url]http://allafrica.com/stories/201107010445.html
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Nigeria has been borrowing to pay salaries ever since Yar'Adua and GEJ's jumbo pay increases (increasing minimum wage from N5k to N18k without a commensurate increase in FG revenues). Nigeria is still borrowing to pay salary as even your beloved Adeosun admits:
By Michael Eboh The Minister of Finance, Mrs. Kemi Adeosun, Thursday, said the ministry cannot afford to pay the N1.2 billion requested by its workers, while she confirmed that the Federal Government was already borrowing funds to be able to pay the N165 billion a month needed to cover civil service salaries.
Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/fg-borrowing-pay-n165bn-civil-service-salaries-adeosun/

Here is Babachir Lawal in April 2016:

Seriki Adinoyi in Jos

The Federal government has again owned up to the crumbling economy of the nation, lamenting that it borrows an average of N600 billion every month to augment payment of workers’ salaries.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/fg-we-borrow-n600-billion-monthly-to-augment-salaries/

In fact, Nigeria's borrowing binge to fund recurrent expenditure predates NOI as this analysis by Atiku in March 2011 points out:

“Mr. President, you plan to borrow 33% of the entire budget, or 3.62% of GDP which is higher than the 3% stipulated in the Fiscal Responsibility Act. Your total
debt service is N542 billion (which is higher than your total capital spending on power, roads, health and education put together). Your total recurrent expenditure (including debt service) is N3.023 trillion, meaning that with a revenue of N2.83 trillion, your government plans to borrow money to finance recurrent expenditure even if capital budget is zero.
https://newafricanpress.com/2011/01/03/2011-budget-atiku-cries-out-again-nigeria-is-going-broke/

The funny thing is that those expressing outrage about NOI's management of the FG's finances whilst at the same time praising Adeosun's management of Ogun state's finances inconveniently forget that Ogun state, by the time Adeosun was done with its finances, needed the FG to bail it out.
The Director, Corporate Communications, Central Bank of Nigeria, Mr. Ibrahim Mu’azu, confirmed to our correspondent on Thursday that the three states’ accounts with commercial banks had been credited with the combined sum of N56.2bn.

According to the breakdown, Ogun got N20bn; Oyo, N26.606bn; and Ekiti, N9.6bn.
http://ijebunewsxtra.com/news-around/ekiti-oyo-ogun-get-n56bn-bailout/
PoliticsRe: Federal Government To Probe Soludo And Sanusi by 4Play(m): 10:49am On Aug 28, 2016
Sant1m:
the timing of the critism from soludo and sanusi closely is a pointer that they both had insider scoop that there tenure was to be probed. since Nigerians are very gullible to sway public opinion the first thing most of these guys do is to criticise the Govt and wait for the Govt to make her move. unfortunately because of hate we fall for it.
Sanusi has been making the same criticism for months. For instance, see here in February 2016:

Nigeria’s respected former central bank chief has said that exchange rate policies backed by President Muhammadu Buahri are doomed to fail, the UK-based Financial Times newspaper reports.

Lamido Sanusi, who is now the emir of Kano, an influential religious post among Muslims in Nigeria, told the Financial Times that he was disappointed to see Mr Buhari’s strong security and anti-corruption efforts overshadowed by a monetary policy regime with “very obvious drawbacks that far outweigh its dubious benefits”.
http://theeagleonline.com.ng/sanusi-attacks-buharis-exchange-rate-policies/
HealthRe: Japan Gives Nigeria $800million To Fight Malaria by 4Play(m): 2:48pm On Aug 27, 2016
abokibuhari:
Malaria way Jonathan don already kill finish before the 'clueless of all cluelessness' came and resurrect it undecided
Jonathan cleared malaria, or are you talking of polio? The economic hardship in Nigeria must be interfering with you guys memory.
PoliticsRe: A MUST READ: Reps 50 Questions For Okonjo Iweala by 4Play(m): 12:34pm On Aug 27, 2016
Passing Shot:
Some of my favourites:

Why should our internal debts continue to represent more than two-thirds of Nigeria’s external debt profile, when the cost of servicing domestic debts is ridiculously far more expensive than servicing external debts? Why should government continue to borrow internally when in
so doing results in insufficient funds, skyrockets the cost of borrowing and above all, crowds out the real sector from the money market? Shouldn’t the high cost of domestic borrowing override whatever are the assumed benefits? Since both London Interbank Offer Rates (LIBOR) and the US Treasury Bonds rates offer far better interest rates for sovereign borrowings, why have we continued not to take advantage of cheaper interest rates?
4Play:
I find this interesting as it implies that external debt is superior to internal debt, that is to say, that it is better that the Nigerian Govt owes money denominated in foreign currency to foreign creditors than owe money denominated in Naira to domestic creditors.

The pitfalls of external debts should be obvious. It was external debt that birthed SAP and culminated in the erosion of living standards in the 80s which is unprecedented in the country's history. The main problem with external debt is the exchange rate risk as follows:
[b]
Supposing you borrow $10bn in 2007, assuming an exchange rate of N100 to $1, giving a debt of N1 trillion when converted to Naira. If exchange rates move against you, say it now takes N160 to buy $1, you suddenly have a debt of 1.6 trillion Naira. Many underestimate how exchange rates can deteriorate quickly.[/b]In the 70s to the 80s and I stand to be corrected, we went from 60 Kobo to $1 to in excess 2 Naira to $1 pretty rapidly, that would amount to a multiplication of the debt burden by more than a factor of 3. The funny thing is that the bigger your external debt burden, the quicker the deterioration in exchange rates because money has to leave the country to service the debt. Imagine what that does to the inflation rate and the living standards of Nigerians as much of what we consume is imported. High inflation brings about high interest rates which dampens the supply of credit to the private sector. The negative spiral is relentless and we have witnessed it before.

The high interest rates the Govt pays when it borrows in Naira is supposed to compensate for the higher rate of inflation in Nigeria but the flip side of high inflation is that the real value of Naira denominated debt is eroded over time than if the debt is denominated in a foreign currency. Remember that in the bond market, if the Govt borrows 100bn Naira for a term of 10 years at yields of 14% per year, it will merely pay the yield per year and redeem or pay back the 100bn Naira at expiration of the 10 year period. 100bn Naira in 2007 and at an inflation rate of 9% per year will mean that in the 10th year, the Govt will pay back the equivalent of 39bn Naira in 2017. In contrast to US dollars which erodes value at a slower rate, the redemption of Naira debt will be a lot cheaper than dollar debt.

So, it's actually likely that from issuance to maturity, an internal bond denominated in Naira is cheaper for the Nigerian Govt than an external bond denominated in US dollars for instance. Almost all sovereign debt crisis occurs in countries borrowing in currencies that they do not control - Greece, Portugal, Spain, Zimbabwe, Ireland, e.t.c.

External debt is good in the short term but incredibly dangerous in the long term. The talk about borrowing in Naira crowding out local borrowers assumes that there is strong domestic private sector demand. If there is such strong demand, then the economy is doing well and it undercuts the opposition's argument.

Listening to and reading policy debates in Nigeria, it's almost like the 80s never happened. Those who refuse to learn from history are bound to repeat it.
It's funny looking back at some of the old debates (also a good opportunity for self-congratulation), to think that some members of the National Assembly criticised NOI for not borrowing in dollars! Imagine the carnage this would have done given present dollar scarcity.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan’s Govt Better Than Buhari’s Administration by 4Play(m): 11:14am On Aug 27, 2016
The more accurate way of putting it is that GEJ's government was a lesser evil. Between GEJ and Buhari, they kind of remind me of the movie Dumb and Dumber - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumb_and_Dumber
PoliticsRe: Deja-vu: Does This 2013 Venezuelan News Report Look Familliar? [PIC] by 4Play(m):
Quakertellicus1:
Read my whole piece again....slowly.

Keep in mind that Okonjo Iweala was saying that we should expect hard times by 2015....in the event of a GEJ victory.

We are a Dutch diseased economy.

For more info...this article is good....And it was wrote in 2004.

Managing the Dutch disease in Nigeria
The problem with your post which I took issue with is this: if you have been on Nairaland long enough you will notice that the PDP/APC propagandists who litter this forum seem to get circulated talking points (themes/stories) which they spout relentlessly for a period until the next set of talking points. The most recent talking point from the APC side is that the Nigerian government should be congratulated for its economic management since, despite being as oil dependent as Venezuela, Nigeria has not suffered the economic collapse that Venezuela has. This is, of course, nonsense as I pointed out as Venezuela's problems are deeper and predate the current oil collapse. Despite your slight backtracking on this thread, I can see you subscribe to this disingenous analogy to Venezuela.

I will make a few other points. Yes, Nigeria has a certain oil dependency which arises in 2 respects - oil is the main source of government revenues and, more importantly, the main source of forex. However, the oil price slump alone does not explain the scale of the naira's and the economy's collapse. Look at the naira's performance in 2016 alone - at a time when other commodity-dependent emerging market currencies have rallied against the dollar. In reality, what we are seeing is the result of major policy missteps or inaction (the main culprit being the decision to maintain a fixed exchange rate which has now, thankfully, been largely reversed). My main bugbear is that people who beat this oil drum relentlessly are either uninformed or being disingenous - they are trying to mask what has been at heart an exemplar of economic mismanagement. By doing this, they inhibit the capacity of Nigerians to learn valuable lessons for the future.

This brings me to the issue of the Dutch disease. The essence of it is the tendency for an oil/commodity boom to cause an appreciation in real exchange rates (i.e., inflation-adjusted)rendering the non-oil/commodity export sector largely uncompetitive. I will use a simplified illustration:

I set up a cocoa farm to export cocoa. At inception, the naira exchanges for 197 naira to $1. If the costs (fuel, labour, fertiliser, e.t.c) of running the farm is circa N180 million and I sell $1 million worth of cocoa in the first period, I should get N197 million for a profit margin of N17 million before tax. Supposing the government decides to fix the exchange rate at N197 to $1 whilst inflation is running rampant. If my costs increase due to inflation from N180 million to N198 million (assuming just 10% inflation), my margin will be squeezed to the point where, unless I find a way of cutting costs, my business is no longer viable.

Though not strictly speaking how the Dutch disease works, what the above illustration shows is that a policy decision to fix the exchange rate, as the present government did, increases the problem of oil dependency by making diversification to non-oil exports challenging. The Dutch disease was a major problem in the 1970s as we maintained a fixed exchange regime for years, but not really much of an issue since the post-Abacha period. In contrast, the period from 1999 had witnessed substantial growth in non-oil exports. See excerpts below:

Represented by the Director, Development Finance of the CBN, Dr Mudashiru Olaitan, Emefiele blamed the decline of non oil revenue on the low level of loans to exporters which invariably contributed to the decline in non oil export revenue receipts from $10.53billion in 2014 to $4.39billion in 2015.
Source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/cbn-blames-declining-non-oil-revenue-on-low-export-loans/

Non-oil exports recorded improvements with aggregate export value increasing continuously from N23,327.5million (US$287million) in 1996 to N29, 163.3 million (US$357.2 million) in 1997; and further to N34, 070.2 million (US$406.5 million) in1998. The CBN (1998) attributed the sustained increase in non-oil export to the liberalization of the foreign exchange policy environment by the federal government, and better operating conditions for Nigeria’s semi-manufacturing sector.
[url]
http://thejournalofbusiness.org/index.php/site/article/viewFile/434/337[/url]

An increase from circa $400m to circa $10bn in non-oil exports in the midst of an oil boom is not reconciliable with the notion of a Dutch disease plaguing Nigeria. In the 1970s by contrast, non-oil exports contracted and with it our groundnut pyramids. Another factor to be weighed is that diversification of forex revenues may also come from capital inflow (like FDI and portfolio inflow) which grew significantly in the post-Abacha period. This declined following the present government's hamfisted attempts to fix the exchange rate making us even more reliant on oil exports as a source of forex.

In reality, what we are experiencing in Nigeria is that policy ineptitude has made what would have been a difficult but manageable growth slowdown, arising from the oil slump, into a painful economic rout. Even if Nigeria was not an oil producing state, an attempt to fight a currency adjustment via a fixed exchange regime would have still produced an economic rout (arguably more so as we would likely have had a larger stock of foreign capital). By simply mouthing off about oil dependency, you are helping mask the government's culpability and doing a disservice to Nigerians for whom economic hardship can be a matter of life and death.
PoliticsRe: Experts Project N700bn FAAC Allocation In August, Highest In 30 Months by 4Play(m): 3:30am On Aug 27, 2016
12Monkeys:
What are the implications of this?

1. Hyperinflation

2. Increase in interest rates

3. Economic slowdown

4. Further naira devaluation (buhari will have to approve a 100,000 naira bill soon)

What they had ought to do?

1. Cut govt expenditure and capital projects until oil prices rebound

2. Lower taxes and not increase it in order to stimulate investment drive

3. Reduce lending rates ( which they did the opposite) . Now who is going to borrow at 40% to start a business in an economy in recession.

The only good news is that Nigeria's economic woes are not entirely due to fundamental factors or a slowing economy but rather the ineptitude of those in power today.
You hinted at something which is very true, increased spending by the FG may actually worsen our economic problems. This is because the release of more Naira in the midst of a currency crisis provides more Naira to buy dollars.

The main problem Nigerians face is inflation (largely down to currency depreciation). Until this is addressed, increasing the money supply is like a dog chasing its tail. Unfortunately, this is why fiscal consolidation and interest rate increases become necessary in a currency crisis.
PoliticsRe: FAAC Table: The Sharing Of N691bn To FG, States, Lgcs In July 2016 by 4Play(m): 3:17am On Aug 27, 2016
See the actual figure here for July:


ALLOCATIONS to the three tiers of government after the monthly Federation Account Allocation Committee (FAAC) meeting yesterday dropped to N443.663 billion.
Last month’s allocation of N559.032 billion triggered jubilation and predictions from some quarters that the July disbursements will may be higher.
http://thenationonlineng.net/july-faac-allocation-drops-n444-6b/
PoliticsRe: EFCC To Seize Diezani’s Assets In America by 4Play(m): 7:57am On Aug 24, 2016
LORDOFTHEOSU:
Chei!! cheesy cheesy

So after reading the body of the report like you claim, you still can't see that the commencement of a genuine and legal process is what the report tries to show irrespective of the enticing headline?

Can you point to anywhere the EFCC or Magu tries to portray a false picture in the quotes attributed to them?
Forfeiture proceedings are public proceedings. Can you name the court in which these proceedings to seize Diezani's proceedings are being conducted?

Diezani is a thieving oaf who represents some of the worst of the Nigerian political class but these newspaper articles in Nigeria are often aimed at the gullible.
PoliticsRe: VIDEO: The Air Strikes That Wounded Shekau, Killed 300 Insurgents by 4Play(m): 11:46pm On Aug 23, 2016
blueto:
APC propaganda at work again gringrin
This has nothing to do with APC. The Nigerian military has been telling lies since time immemorial.
PoliticsRe: Deja-vu: Does This 2013 Venezuelan News Report Look Familliar? [PIC] by 4Play(m): 6:46pm On Aug 23, 2016
Quakertellicus1:
All it shows is that Nigeria and Venezuela are both oil dependent nations....whose economies rise and fall with the oil price.
This is hogwash. Venezuela was in economic crisis long before Nigeria - this article dates back to 2013. The attempt to excuse the shambolic policy ineptitude that has worsened our economic problems by comparing us to Venezuela is a sorry display of boneheaded propaganda. A cursory look on the internet will show that Venezuela's recession predate the recent collapse in oil prices:

If there were an award for the messiest year in Latin America, Venezuela would win it by a landslide. Currency problems, drastic shortages and political wars marked a 2013 that began with the death of Comandante Hugo Chávez in early March. Since then, successor and current President Nicolás Maduro has been trying to carry on his legacy at any cost -- and many fear that is bringing the country close to collapse.

Whether Maduro's failing policies or the so-called “economic war” Maduro is accusing his opposition of waging are to blame, Venezuela entered a recession in 2013. GDP suffered a 0.4 percent contraction this year, according to estimates by Trading Economics. This, in a year when Venezuela dealt with 42 percent inflation, and the Venezuelan bolívar dropped 32 percent against the U.S. dollar
[url]
http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuelas-economy-will-continue-suffer-2014-analysts-predict-further-recession-1535334[/url]
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Is Not The Cause Of Economic Hardship In Nigeria by 4Play(m): 5:58pm On Aug 23, 2016
This Venezuela comparison is the sort of argument aimed at exploiting Nigerians ignorance. The reality is that Venezuela has deeper economic problems and that Nigeria has been doing better than Venezuela since at least the GEJ era. Here is my previous post on this:

4Play:
These online propagandists get emailed talking points which they promote endlessly - for APC propagandists, their recent talking points include the misleading comparison to Venezuela.

At the heart of the talking point is that the present government deserves praise as Nigeria's present economic performance is not as bad as Venezuela's, a fellow oil producer. The problem with this line of argument is that it masks a major piece of irony: if Nigeria's relative outperformance vis-a-vis Venezuala constitutes a basis for praising the present government, it is also a basis for praising the PDP government. This is because Nigeria has been outperforming Venezuala for a while. Here is an extract from a January 2014 article about the Venezuelan economy:
If there were an award for the messiest year in Latin America, Venezuela would win it by a landslide. Currency problems, drastic shortages and political wars marked a 2013 that began with the death of Comandante Hugo Chávez in early March. Since then, successor and current President Nicolás Maduro has been trying to carry on his legacy at any cost -- and many fear that is bringing the country close to collapse.

Whether Maduro's failing policies or the so-called “economic war” Maduro is accusing his opposition of waging are to blame, Venezuela entered a recession in 2013. GDP suffered a 0.4 percent contraction this year, according to estimates by Trading Economics. This, in a year when Venezuela dealt with 42 percent inflation, and the Venezuelan bolívar dropped 32 percent against the U.S. dollar
[url]
http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuelas-economy-will-continue-suffer-2014-analysts-predict-further-recession-1535334[/url]
PoliticsThe Wives Of Boko Haram by 4Play(op): 6:52pm On Aug 21, 2016
By Hilary Matfess

Aisha, a witty and strangely charming 25-year-old from Banki, a town bordering Cameroon, recalled how members of Boko Haram came to her town in 2012 and began preaching their rigid brand of Salafi jihadism. The insurgents then turned to some of the women, asked what they ate, and when they replied, “just rice,” offered them a tantalizing deal. “They would give us a regular allowance of 5,000 naira and better food if we married them,” said Aisha who was so intrigued by the prospect that she asked her then-husband for a divorce, which he granted. The sum of money, most likely doled out monthly, is an incredible sum given 80 percent of rural Nigerians live on less than 400 naira a day. Aisha explained matter-of-factly, “I was tired of my husband and I wanted a rich man…of course I knew there are many rich men in Boko Haram.”

Despite its reputation for gross human rights abuses, particularly against women and girls, it appears that Boko Haram’s stature among the women it courted for marriage is less sullied. Of the seven women I spoke to in a special camp in Maiduguri, which held roughly two dozen militant wives who were “rescued” by the Nigerian military during raids of Boko Haram camps, most claimed that they had willingly married members of Boko Haram. Under the founder, Mohammed Yusuf, and the current leader Abubaker Shekau, who took over after Yusuf’s extrajudicial murder in 2009 by Nigerian security forces, the sect has been involved in the organization of marriages between members. Part of this process involves aqidah, or “creed,” a process of preaching and conversion within Islam that Boko Haram has adopted to recruit members - including a number of women.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/nigeria/2016-08-17/wives-boko-haram
PoliticsRe: The Reason Nigerians And Even Intellectuals Were Deceived by 4Play(m): 1:33pm On Aug 21, 2016
Buhari's appeal was based on 2 key factors - GEJ's utter incompetence and motivated reasoning.

GEJ's incompetence is well documented. If you live in a country where your leaders are grotesquely inept, you are tempted to try something different without scrutinising the alternatives. In an intellectually incurious country where 85% of citizens are under the age of 35, even the more inept leaders from the distant past like Buhari suddenly start looking appealling. In 30 years time, GEJ will be viewed as a great leader by comparison to whoever is in power at that time (much to the consternation of our generation who will be the elderly population by then).

As for motivated reasoning, what I mean by this is the way ethnic/religous loyalties mould or shape how we reason. What Buhari offered was a way for two political blocs - North East/West and South West political elites - to regain power at the federal level. If GEJ was remotely competent, most people from both regions won't mind, but faced with GEJ's utter buffoonery, the tendency is to revert back to habituated modes of thinking (these people from the other tribes/regions are no good, my tribes/region people will definitely be better). By the same token, most persons who claim that GEJ is a hero or was a great president are either cognitively impaired or motivated by religion/ethnicity.

I think these two factors are interlinked - due to GEJ's incompetence, people rationalised to themselves that Buhari was a better option (fuelled by a mixture of desperation and ethnic/regional calculations). What would happen is that in the long run, support for Buhari would erode and the core support, like GEJ's fan boys, would be made up of ethno-religious supporters (the type that scream IPOB at any critic of Buhari).
PoliticsRe: Between Jonathan And Buhari Economy by 4Play(m): 12:53pm On Aug 21, 2016
francoray:
How genuine is your source of income?

Nigeria Economy was never strong. It was only revolving around corruption.
A man steals Millions of Naira. Uses part of it to build a house. He will buy bags of cements, building rods and other materials. Pay workers who work on the site. Give Millions to his girlfriend, who will go and buy Brazilian hair, buy expensive jewelleries and shoes. Spent Millions on a five star hotel to organize a birthday party and buy assorted drinks.
They were getting Billions of Naira from the scam called fuel subsidy. They will go and keep the money in the Banks, and the Banks were looking for fat deposits. From the loots, fat offerings and tithes were paid. Millions were even paid to Religious leaders for prayers. The Economy was booming around corruption.
Then, a new Sheriff came to town with integrity. He says, it is not going to be business as usual. TSA was introduced. The war against corruption declared. Most sources of ill gotten wealth cut off. No more free cash for the boys.
And because we are a consuming Nation from ill gotten wealth, the so called strong Economy suddenly collapsed. Some even suggested that corruption should be brought back.
We must now start to build a productive Economy based on genuine source of wealth.
This is the sorry state of Nigeria Economy today.
This is plumbing new levels of desperation.

So when the political class stole money, much of it shipped out of the country, it was the bit that they spent in Nigeria that was keeping the econoomy afloat. Whereas today that the money is no longer being stolen and it is now available for the government to invest in the country (instead of being shipped out), this is causing the economy to crash?

They better be paying you well to post this nonsense.
PoliticsRe: Budget Padding: Jibrin Disowned By 10 Principal Officers by 4Play(m): 9:25am On Aug 19, 2016
NextGovernor:
Our legislators are so corrupt that when it comes to money and corruption cases they unite. Who would have believe even Gbajamilia will strongly support this. This is to show that majority of them benefitted from this padding.
Nigerians and their faux outrage. Even Femi Gbajabiamila indeed, the chap barred from practising law due to his poor grasp of ethical standards. See here:

Femi Gbaja as he was known in the case file accepted payment of $25,000 as a personal injury claims and deposited those funds in his attorney trust account in January 2003. He failed to disburse the funds to his client; instead he withdrew the funds, closed his practice and left for Nigeria where he ran for elections to represent Surulere I Federal Constituency in the Federal House of Representative under the banner of Alliance for Democracy (AD) in 2003. Upon arrival in Nigeria, curiously, Mr. Femi Gbaja added another name to
http://saharareporters.com/2007/09/16/lagos-rep-house-representative-fraud-scandal
BusinessRe: Brent Crude Oil Rose From $47.06 To $50 per Barrel by 4Play(m): 9:02am On Aug 19, 2016
dondo83:
like goodluck did bah? As long as NDA Keeps blowing pipelines even if crude is sold at $100 Nigeria wont feel the surplus
You have to remember that militants were blowing up pipelines during OBJ's tenure and this wasn't used as an excuse for the economy. Even more importantly, we were given the impression the previous GEJ regime was stealing oil revenue with reckless abandon. Now that the new sheriff is in town, the reduction in theft should offset the revenue loss from increased pipeline attacks particularly where oil prices are above the budget benchmark.
PoliticsRe: Economy: Buhari Rejects IMF And World Bank Prescriptions by 4Play(m):
bjdon:
I am not a Buhari supporter, but I am with him 100% on this.

Nobody can show me one third world country that has developed by following IMF/World Bank prescriptions. People need to understand that these organizations simply act to enslave third world nations for the good of their western financial masters. We have everything that is required for a prosperous nation(Natural resources, fertile land, educated population) all we need is a serious focused govt to put in place the right polices so that all these attributes can come together for economic growth. We do not need the IMF/World Bank
The IMF and World Bank do not compel any nation to borrow. It is countries like Nigeria that solicit loans from these organisations. See below:

Nigeria’s government is in talks for concessionary loans worth $3.5 billion from the World Bank and African Development Bank to help finance a planned record budget this year, Finance Minister Kemi Adeosun said.
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-31/nigeria-seeks-3-5-billion-of-loans-to-buoy-spending-in-oil-rout [/url]

In reality, Nigeria is already following prescriptions from the IMF. This is why subsidy was removed, electricity prices were jacked up and the Naira was allowed to fall from 197 to the dollar. The things our government say and what they do are different.
PoliticsRe: Some People Exported Stones To Claim Export Grant –adeosun by 4Play(m): 8:46am On Aug 19, 2016
Sibrah:
So she shouldn't raise alarm because it happened under Jonathan and PDP again. Your reasoning ehn . . . Very dàft!
Her comments would have made sense when she was in opposition (or rather doing a "masterful" job on Ogun state's finances). But when you are now part of the government, it makes no sense. The minimum you would expect is for the stone exporters to be named and shamed. Instead, like the N3 trillion TSA funds "recovered" (from who?), this is an example of governing by press release - making vacuous statements in public aimed at conveying the impression that you are hard at work.
PoliticsRe: Military To Level Boko Haram Camps In Sambisa In Search Of Chibok Girls by 4Play(m): 12:29pm On Aug 17, 2016
lifezone247:
How many times una don talk this shi?
Saturday, 5 December 2015
Military Begins Final Assault On Sambisa Forest
Supported by the Airforce, Nigerian troops “have advanced deep” into Sambisa forest in the decisive assault to rid the Northeast of Boko Haram insurgents.

Acting Director of Army/Public Relations, Colonel Sani Usman, said in a statement that the troops have been “clearing most of the camps therein, rescuing persons held captive, arresting some terrorists and destroying most of their weapons and equipment."
http://abujacitynews..co.uk/2015/12/military-begins-final-assault-on.html?m=1

If you do a Google search of final assault on Sambisa, you will realise the military has been launching final assaults on Sambisa since at least February 2015.
PoliticsRe: Okonjo-iweala: I Said Governors, Not Jonathan, Lacked The Political Will To Save by 4Play(m): 7:40pm On Aug 16, 2016
This was the official position of the APC before, with the benefit of hindsight, it became fashionable to assert that Nigeria should save money:


Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Nigeria’s main opposition party said it will scrap the country’s sovereign wealth fund and a separate excess crude account if it wins elections in February.

“We’re going to put a stop to them,” Lai Mohammed, a spokesman for the All Progressives Congress, or APC, said in an interview in London yesterday. “The sovereign wealth fund and the excess crude account are illegal.”
[url]
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-30/nigeria-s-opposition-wants-to-scrap-sovereign-oil-funds[/url]

What is remarkable is that the present finance minister and succesor to NOI whilst the finance commissioner for Ogun state did the opposite of saving in her 4 year stint - she went on a borrowing spree leaving Ogun state in a dire financial state and necessitating a bailout. The new found adulation for the virtues of financial prudence is an audacious display of hypocrisy. Go through most of these posters Nairaland posts prior to the oil collapse and you will not see one mention - not even an inkling - of the need to preserve a rainy day fund.
PoliticsRe: A Look At Venezuela And Why Our Government Deserves Commendation. by 4Play(m): 1:56am On Aug 14, 2016
obailala:
I will give you a simple analogy; a man's salary increases from 10k to 100k and then he marries more wives and births more children after several years. Now after many years and many more wives and children later, his salary is slashed suddenly from 100k to 30k. Of course it is only commonsensical to know that his general standard of living cannot remain the same as before, especially since he cannot chase away his new wives and new children. In summary, Nigeria of today is totally different from what it was during the days of OBJ's; so your comparison of things being 'fine' during the $20 days of OBJ vs the situation of things now is baseless, except you are suggesting Buhari to sack half of the federal civil service and reduce minimum wages to N3000.
Do you know why this argument does not wash with Nigerians? Because the state of the economy today is significantly worse than it was in say the first 5 months of 2015 when GEJ was in power. It's that rapid deterioration in living standards that Nigerians are bemoaning. Oil prices today are not significantly different from oil prices in the first quarter of 2015, yet we have seen a substantial currency collapse since then.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the government is a victim of the expectations it helped create. People were told that the previous government was composed of Olympian thieves (purportedly stealing $49bn or $20bn within an 18 month period). Now that those thieves have been kicked out, and presumably the theft has stopped, the reduction in the theft of oil revenues should offset some, if not all, of the reduction in oil revenues arising from lower oil prices and disruption in oil production.
PoliticsRe: A Look At Venezuela And Why Our Government Deserves Commendation. by 4Play(m): 1:15am On Aug 14, 2016
PoliticsRe: A Look At Venezuela And Why Our Government Deserves Commendation. by 4Play(m): 1:05am On Aug 14, 2016
These online propagandists get emailed talking points which they promote endlessly - for APC propagandists, their recent talking points include the misleading comparison to Venezuela.

At the heart of the talking point is that the present government deserves praise as Nigeria's present economic performance is not as bad as Venezuela's, a fellow oil producer. The problem with this line of argument is that it masks a major piece of irony: if Nigeria's relative outperformance vis-a-vis Venezuala constitutes a basis for praising the present government, it is also a basis for praising the PDP government. This is because Nigeria has been outperforming Venezuala for a while. Here is an extract from a January 2014 article about the Venezuelan economy:

If there were an award for the messiest year in Latin America, Venezuela would win it by a landslide. Currency problems, drastic shortages and political wars marked a 2013 that began with the death of Comandante Hugo Chávez in early March. Since then, successor and current President Nicolás Maduro has been trying to carry on his legacy at any cost -- and many fear that is bringing the country close to collapse.

Whether Maduro's failing policies or the so-called “economic war” Maduro is accusing his opposition of waging are to blame, Venezuela entered a recession in 2013. GDP suffered a 0.4 percent contraction this year, according to estimates by Trading Economics. This, in a year when Venezuela dealt with 42 percent inflation, and the Venezuelan bolívar dropped 32 percent against the U.S. dollar.
http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuelas-economy-will-continue-suffer-2014-analysts-predict-further-recession-1535334

You can see from the above that Venezuela has been in the economic doldrums for years dating back to at least the GEJ government era. Now are the APC propagandists going to praise the GEJ government - as they are doing with the Buhari governemnt - on the basis that Nigeria outperformed Venezuela during the GEJ era?
PoliticsRe: Why I Think Voting For Buhari Was Inevitable - Olufunke Phillips by 4Play(m): 6:11am On Aug 12, 2016
Israeljones:
Yu simply dont know how to read bruh or perhaps u lack simple understanding..
The author of that write up simply pointed out that what we had was a no go area again and we had to move on to the next one and if the next one doesnt deliver we simply move to the next best one in the coming election...
What makes you confident you can vote out Buhari?
PoliticsRe: Recession: Buhari’s Economic Team Meets Experts For Help by 4Play(m): 6:52am On Aug 03, 2016
The first thing I would suggest they do is to commit to running a budget surplus within 2 years. To do this, they should implement fiscal austerity (cut spending and increase taxes). Nigerians will squeal but the government needs to demonstrate fiscal responsibility to investors as the Naira plunges and inflation escalates.

Injecting money into the economy has the perverse effect of supporting Naira depreciation. Inflation is what is killing our economy and this needs to be tackled urgently. Ideally, you would want a way of providing palliative financial support to low income households - like the Osun style school feeding programme - but I suspect in practice it would be impossible to implement on a nationwide scale in anything approaching and effective manner.

Major structural reform is urgently required - privatisation and more deregulation of major sectors of the economy. Privatisation provides a financial windfall to the government whilst, as with deregulation, increasing the productive capacity of the economy. NNPC and the ports come to mind.

The reality is that Buhari still has political capital. Support for politicians in Nigeria is predicated on perceived ethnic/religious interests so the coalition that voted for him in 2015 will still vote for him in 2019 come what may as there are no viable alternatives that allign with such interests. So Buhari has leeway to make bold economic reforms. My suspicion is that he won't seize the opportunity as he is wedded to outdated and discredited command economics.

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