desvi:


see, this is why people do not listen to you but feel offended
you are disrespectful
you are not above women
you don't get to tell them anything
stop being so damn patronizing
you are not talking to your kids here

You find the statement that every woman must strive to marry good men disrespectful?

Interesting.

doitforyou:
exactly!!!! every generation complains about the next generation. We had the roaring 20s, the free love of the 60s, we had the hippie movement. When I was young my mom used to complain about my short skirts, then, when you look at her old pics from the 60s she wore shorter length clothes. These Instagram kids of today will get old, become conservative and start writing articles like this for the oncoming generation. Let kids be.

like sassysure's, your examples are very apt too
thank you!
it was a mass hysteria in the 60s, what would become of the world?
what has changed?
it has become much better
my great-grandmother, my grandmother and my mother agree
they repeat over and over again how happy they are I do not have to live through the struggles of the past
I would not go back

desvi:


the porn industry is male dominated but you decided to pick on the females
typical

Porn industry is male dominated how?

Are the women forced to participate?

Everyone tangles for people's entertainment while they make their cool cash.

bukatyne:


You find the statement that every woman must strive to marry good men disrespectful?

Interesting.

I find your demeanor on the whole very disrespectful
but I am sure you choose to be provocative so it shouldn't surprise you

doitforyou:
yes she is!! But she is a sly one.

Only “the blind” cannot see.
This thread just exposed her COMPLETELY.
People cried to have it deleted.


The title alone neither tickles my curiosity nor motivated my fingers to open the thread.

I just felt like . . . *jump am pass*.

It was only after the thread was deleted I realized she actually opened another thread to question why the thread was deleted.

Seriously?
I would rather listen to a “GAGGLE OF GAFFING 20-somethings” PUBLICLY discussing their sexual binges in a movie theater, than click on that nauseating thread about “marital rape”


Look at who is writing about DECORUM?

Muchechecheche

LWKMD!!!!

crack house said nothing he lacked comprehension, just as you are doing now. we are railing against double standard in society nothing about women wanting be negative or whatever. You are also making an erroneous comparison between a choice without victims and a choice with victims. One is a personal choice the other one is a crime. I have not seen anybody encouraging crime here.

Omoluabi16:
There will always be standards. There will always be rules and acceptable/non-acceptable behaviour. This change and civilization we go on about is just excuse to lose our self control. Like crack house said, why the negatives and not the positives?
If a woman acts slutty and is being slut-shamed why does she seek acceptance or do the 'don't judge me' thing when the right thing to do is to stop being slutty! Same way Criminal yahoo boys are seeking justification. How many Nigerians defended Mr Naira Marley? Isn't bobrisky celebrated?
Perilous times.

sassysure:


Tell them my dear.
It was worst then.
Husbands will take official concubines. They call the courtesans. Wives will stay at home breeding, cooking and sowing clothes while courtesans, today's side chick will be at the court with the men learning the art of war, politics, literatures and what have you. Men go to their wives if they want to breed but when they need pleasure from the opposite sex, they go to these ladies.
Infact, mothers train their daughters to be official prostitutes. The men lavish these ladies with everything they can't give their wives yet now women have finally found their footing, they have become immoral and lost their charm abi mystique

Okay o.

Leave marriage out of the discussion, it is a different space.

bukatyne:


Porn industry is male dominated how?

Are the women forced to participate?

Everyone tangles for people's entertainment while they make their cool cash.

it's run by men

ThothHermes:


In other words, you have run of gas. They are less ridiculous ways to admit that though.

am just not interested in copy&paste opinions

desvi:


am just not interested in copy&paste opinions

This is even more pitiable than the first excuse.

KanwuliaExtra:

Yeah, sometimes.
Other times, no.

I pointed out one of your threads that was deleted. I saw it and NEVER bothered to click on it. Even when others were appealing to you that it was offensive, you still stuck to your guns. Till it was finally deleted.

This thread is another one on a less offensive note.

Let me tell you about you and “some” of YOUR THREADS.

In a nutshell, you are a closet mysoginist.

E.O.D!

Hahahaha

My titles are growing

Feminist, anti-feminist, misogynist, fanatic, Feminazi, divorce advocate etc.

Some things might be offensive yet objective.

For instance, if you warn a girl to be careful whom she opens her legs for because she bears the burden of pregnancy, it is offensive yet objective.

I love women and would expect them to be willing to face the consequences of their actions.

When they do not like the consequences of their actions, I am all for going back to the drawing board. Let's see what was obtainable before and tweak it to work today.

That has actually been the driving force of most of my threads.

The society outside is different from Nairaland.

doitforyou:
yes she is!! But she is a sly one.

Another one again.

Sly misogynist.

Thanks

desvi:



first off, what you consider classy is for sure not what everyone else considers classy
I for myself find your obsession with sex on public display, pardon me, somehow repulsive on many different levels
but I am sure you think of yourself as classy

secondly, if every lady was the same, it would be boring, not bad but boring

@Secondly, reminds me of the proverb I quoted in a post.

My obsession with sex on public display is repulsive while those loud about it are not?

Omoluabi16:
There will always be standards. There will always be rules and acceptable/non-acceptable behaviour. This change and civilization we go on about is just excuse to lose our self control. Like crack house said, why the negatives and not the positives?
If a woman acts slutty and is being slut-shamed why does she seek acceptance or do the 'don't judge me' thing when the right thing to do is to stop being slutty! Same way Criminal yahoo boys are seeking justification. How many Nigerians defended Mr Naira Marley? Isn't bobrisky celebrated?
Perilous times.

Very.

doitforyou:
crack house said nothing he lacked comprehension, just as you are doing now. we are railing against double standard in society nothing about women wanting be negative or whatever. You are also making an erroneous comparison between a choice without victims and a choice with victims. One is a personal choice the other one is a crime. I have not seen anybody encouraging crime here.

choice or crime, my position was on how society reacted to it. Crime is bad, as are some choices. We are all victims of our choices..a reality I believe you understand.
Whatever I typed, I tried as much not to narrow it to everyone's favourite men vs women topic of discussion. Men..women are all members of a wider society, and indeed societal values are failing. I don't see the need to pander to just anything. I feel some of us are too much in a hurry to dispose of our systens which has defined us since life began.

KanwuliaExtra:


Sure. It should be a private discussion, away from the “prim and proper”! Totally agree.
But, should they be used as examples mysoginistic outlets and subjectified as “deviants”?

I have no idea about any misogynistic outlets.

They would not even come near me.

bukatyne:


The OP claims to be a feminist.

This has got nothing to do with feminism.

Don't mind them sister bukky

There is nothing wrong with that!!!!! that is the point of all our mentions to you, because you don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't give others space to enjoy it if they like it. She doesn't have to want one to respect the choice of her friend getting one. it's just simple!

bukatyne:


I wasn't even thinking of sex.

I remember a discussion about tattoos with some friends. One said a guy's tattoo was nice and she liked it. When we told her to tell hubby to get it, she instinctively went 'God forbid, her husband or kids would never have tattoos.'

Like we say in Yoruba: were dun wo, ko she bi lomo.... A mad person's display is sweet/fun to watch however no one wants to have a mad child.

Like the Whites say: Imitation is the best form of flattery.

On another note, I find it funny that women who previously confide in each other about their sexcaspades would use same thing to insult them when all goes south.

bukatyne:


@Secondly, reminds me of the proverb I quoted in a post.

My obsession with sex on public display is repulsive while those loud about it are not?

didn't say so
you too shall be free in expressing your nymphomania

don't mind me
it's a free world

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! The Romans used to organise orgies on the street. Even in Nigeria in the olden days sex parties wasn't unheard of. Social media just made the world smaller and we get to hear of things that normally we would not.


I've never seen anyone anywhere organising orgies in public in this modern time.

bukatyne:


Social Media.

Prior to now, everyone was crazy in their space. Reference Sodom&Gomorrah, Noah's time etc.

The Bible even talked about homosexuality and wild/sin parties.

SM made everyone crazy in public.

With training and prayers, all will be well.

bukatyne:


Thanks.

I still believe in train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Most of the kids were not trained.

very true. But I these days, society tends to have a higher power in influencing children. Remember that the Bible says in the latter days, son will rise against father, etc. So to me I feel its more like what is happening now is trying to fulfill what is written in the bible. People no longer care about morals, they just do whatever they like and all that. Its just scriptural and there is nothing that we can do that will fight it. If you try to cage a child , you will see that the child will spoil more than a child that is set free.

bukatyne:


Hahahaha

My titles are growing

Feminist, anti-feminist, misogynist, fanatic, Feminazi, divorce advocate etc.

Some things might be offensive yet objective.

For instance, if you warn a girl to be careful whom she opens her legs for because she bears the burden of pregnancy, it is offensive yet objective.

I love women and would expect them to be willing to face the consequences of their actions.

When they do not like the consequences of their actions, I am all for going back to the drawing board. Let's see what was obtainable before and tweak it to work today.

That has actually been the driving force of most of my threads.

The society outside is different from Nairaland.

Great!
Your tithes can only grow from PSYCHOS!
That is why we have so many ofege-pastors all over Africa.

Please, let me find the BEST REPLY I got from that your “deleted thread rebuttal”.

Baby-doll? You are NO FRIEND to any free-thinking woman. I could write pages, but do not wish to make this personal. Especially as you are now feeling real “fly”.

It practically summed up what I feel like writing.

Here goes:

merahki:



Hello, I read it and found it offensive and wrong
Don’t lose your humanity in a bid to “sound” intellectual
Cheers

This was so deeeeeep, I felt it for you. Please, accept it in good faith. It will do you a lot of good prior to copying and pasting “shyte” all over NL and other social media.

desvi:


off point
why don't you open a thread for a change where you can preach to your brothers?
majority of women here disagree with you and after your "I encourage rape" thread, the ship has left the harbor where you stood a chance to make a difference
and nobody buys into your "I want to save society" narrative
on NL?

How can I preach to my brothers when I am a sister?

My dear, I have never cared about the agreement or disagreement of a cactus here or in my life.

I am a very objective person and states it as it is. If you go through my posts and thread, you would know that I am NOT a politically correct person.

I would also not give an advise that I can not follow because I am a woman of my words and everywhere I go/am is a projection of who I am in part.

Funny thing is that one or two women would come in, read and pick whatever they want to and that's fine with me.

Even Jesus Christ who shed His blood did not save everyone.

@ I encourage rape: is that's what you got from the thread, then good for you.

doitforyou:
All these hypothetical questions mean nothing. My brother is a grown man, I would hope he would have sense to make decisions that are best for him. This world is huuuggee! for every woman that sleeps around there are 10 more that want to wait till their wedding night. We are not going to force women to be what they are not because you don't want to 'taint' the pool when my brother is about to get married. A former prostitute can be a faithful wife while a woman that was a virgin on her wedding night can be an unfaithful wife.

Interesting.

He would have sense to make the best decision for himself aka marry a better girl.

Also interesting you think for every girl who decides to sleep around, ten are willing to wait till their wedding night.

A part of you wish your brother picks from that pool right?

bukatyne:


I have no idea about any misogynistic outlets.

They would not even come near me.

Hmmmmm!
Homework for the class.
Question of da day:
What would Lucifer say to the world.

Answer : I am not a DEVIL.

100% pass mark!

desvi:


I find your demeanor on the whole very disrespectful
but I am sure you choose to be provocative so it shouldn't surprise you

My demeanor disrespectful?

I didn't write the OP even though I agree very much with it.

That women should pick good husband? Disrespectful?

That women should be decent, ladylike and have decorum disrespectful?

bukatyne:


The men were also forced to certain codes of conduct also.

For instance, you had a lot of shotgun weddings. They also had code of conducts.

Now that people have the liberty to behave as they will, they pick all the wrong characters to exhibit and are sadly not willing to face the consequences.

Lol

desvi:


it's run by men

And women are so light brained to resist?

Where the women forced to act or join?

Omo, it is real hustle.

Men might have built it to satisfy men however the women are willing participants.

doitforyou:
There is nothing wrong with that!!!!! that is the point of all our mentions to you, because you don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't give others space to enjoy it if they like it. She doesn't have to want one to respect the choice of her friend getting one. it's just simple!

Hmmmm mm!

There is a difference between overlooking a tattoo and flattering the wearer.

The former is letting people be, the latter is encouraging people to do what you wouldn't or consider wrong.

bukatyne:


How can I preach to my brothers when I am a sister?

is there some unwritten law that states that you can't address them?
they are all over the place here preaching to us too so what stops you?
since your mission is a better society, you should consider the other 50%.
it would also lend you more credibility among the female folk
there is a thread here in the séxuality section, the contents quite shocking, I must say and I am not easily impressed
men share all kind of sexual escapades and what STDs they have already had but I have never seen you there

My dear, I have never cared about the agreement or disagreement of a cactus here or in my life.
I am a very objective person and states it as it is. If you go through my posts and thread, you would know that I am NOT a politically correct person.

I know it is en vogue to be not politically correct though people understand different thing when they use these words but that's a different topic
I do not consider you objective at all, you are very much influenced by personal feelings and beliefs

I would also not give an advise that I can not follow because I am a woman of my words and everywhere I go/am is a projection of who I am in part.

see, this is why you are not objective
but it's good you give only advice you believe in and I am sure you try to give people the advice you would give a sister
the problem is that you give a lot of unsolicited advice in a rather disrespectful way
there are better ways for sure

Funny thing is that one or two women would come in, read and pick whatever they want to and that's fine with me.

true, even me

Even Jesus Christ who shed His blood did not save everyone.

are you comparing yourself to Jesus now?

@ I encourage rape: is that's what you got from the thread, then good for you.

let's not go there

essenceplus:



Don't mind them sister bukky

Hahahahahahaha

Thank you brother essenceplus.

Comprehension and context. Sense: synonyms - awareness, feeling, perception etc. I would hope he would have sense (ability to identify) to make a decision that is best for him. Best is the key word, I don't know what is best for him. The girl that sleeps around might be best for him who knows? There are men that married former prostitutes (best for them) and went on to have a happy marriage. As I said a virgin wife can still be unfaithful.

Yea it might blow your mind but the world is that huge to accommodate the diversity of women without triggering Armageddon. Just do you and leave other women.

bukatyne:


Interesting.

He would have sense to make the best decision for himself aka marry a better girl.

Also interesting you think for every girl who decides to sleep around, ten are willing to wait till their wedding night.

A part of you wish your brother picks from that pool right?