demmymoney:
Seems u people don't see abortion as murder why can't RAPE also b legalized because abortion requires the woman to discharge "foetus" so also is the man discharging "sperm" anytime he rapes.

And in the two cases of RAPE and ABORTION there's penetrative sex involved and for ABORTION the women claim it's their body right regardless of the other person involved in the penetrative sex so also for RAPE the men claim it's their body right regardless of the other person involved in the penetrative sex.....JUST LIKE IN THE TIMES OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH!!!!


Ciao!!!!

Excessnation:
The scripture still did not call out abortion as bad

Excessnation:
What kind of fellow are you?? How can you compare abortion to rape. Are they the same?? Rape is forcefully haveing sex, while abortion is a thing of choice.

ePoster:
Just stating a fact.


No one is forced to have an abortion.

It's a choice and therefore should be legal.

If a woman doesn't want a child, no matter how she got pregnant (though most are victims of sexual molestion) then she should be able to enforce her right to get rid of it!

There aren't strict laws in place to prosecute run away fathers, and those set in place aren't enforced as they should.
Our society is one that condemns single-motherhood...

So why should anyone force a woman to accept responsibilities that she would later be stigmatized for?


Because of religion?
Your morals shouldn't dictate what others 'can' and 'can not' do.

Your faith doesn't permit abortion?

Great! Don't do it.

But that doesn't place you in the position to judge anyone. Especially those who don't care what you believe in.


Killing of an unborn baby hurts your heart?

Too bad! No one lives their life for you. Deal with the bitter truth!

People have the right to make decisions that wouldn't favor you.

ePoster:
Just stating a fact.


No one is forced to have an abortion.

It's a choice and therefore should be legal.

If a woman doesn't want a child, no matter how she got pregnant (though most are victims of sexual molestion) then she should be able to enforce her right to get rid of it!

There aren't strict laws in place to prosecute run away fathers, and those set in place aren't enforced as they should.
Our society is one that condemns single-motherhood...

So why should anyone force a woman to accept responsibilities that she would later be stigmatized for?


Because of religion?
Your morals shouldn't dictate what others 'can' and 'can not' do.

Your faith doesn't permit abortion?

Great! Don't do it.

But that doesn't place you in the position to judge anyone. Especially those who don't care what you believe in.


Killing of an unborn baby hurts your heart?

Too bad! No one lives their life for you. Deal with the bitter truth!

People have the right to make decisions that wouldn't favor you.

.hell yea ...no man wants no gadddem hungry lookin childrens running around like somali rabbit.... I hate gadddem childrens.



.abortion will prevent womens from trapping mens!!!(real talk)

DrFunmisticGlow:
is God in charge of the constitution?

Seperate religion from your argument please.

DrFunmisticGlow:
In both cases, a person dies. And the perpetrator still goes to jail.

A new born has the necessary functions to exist on it's own, not a foetus. .

MhisTahrah:
How can you compare abortion to rape?

livingchrist:
both are the same infact abortion is even worst because it involves taking the life of another.

Excessnation:
The scripture still did not call out abortion as bad

Excessnation:
What kind of fellow are you?? How can you compare abortion to rape. Are they the same?? Rape is forcefully haveing sex, while abortion is a thing of choice.

ePoster:
Just stating a fact.


No one is forced to have an abortion.

It's a choice and therefore should be legal.

If a woman doesn't want a child, no matter how she got pregnant (though most are victims of sexual molestion) then she should be able to enforce her right to get rid of it!

There aren't strict laws in place to prosecute run away fathers, and those set in place aren't enforced as they should.
Our society is one that condemns single-motherhood...

So why should anyone force a woman to accept responsibilities that she would later be stigmatized for?


Because of religion?
Your morals shouldn't dictate what others 'can' and 'can not' do.

Your faith doesn't permit abortion?

Great! Don't do it.

But that doesn't place you in the position to judge anyone. Especially those who don't care what you believe in.


Killing of an unborn baby hurts your heart?

Too bad! No one lives their life for you. Deal with the bitter truth!

People have the right to make decisions that wouldn't favor you.

demmymoney:



Yes u are right but even though we don't have good adoption system WE WILL NEVER MAKE ABORTION LEGAL!!!!!

Infact why can't u fight for strong adoption policies?

Lawly:


my dear there are motherless babies homes all over the country. some of the children there, their parents are still alive. I Know bcs I had one of those orphanage homes as my client. some people who can't take care of their children keep them in the orphanage homes and even consent to the children adopted away sometimes on terms.
Have you ever heard of the department of social works? that is the government's orphanage house. just that people these days don't bother to have information.
So, please there's no excuse for abortion.

demmymoney:



U are right brotherly both are fundamentally wrong but since this mad people want to choose sides I believe rape is even better than abortion because we have rape victims but I have never seen an abortion victim before (ie the foetus doesn't live to tell his or her story)

Stephenmoka4:
Will you be held responsible if she dies during the process? Definitely I'll be responsible for my own child.

livingchrist:
that is because the foundation of their clamor is selfishness and self centeredness. Me me me me is what they are all about.
They want the right to do whatever they want but dont want to take responsibilities for their actions. They rather murder a thousand babies than stop fornication, they want the right to take babies right simply because they think they own the babies forgetting that all lives belong to God and nobody has the right to take another's life.
Look at fumi trying to remove God from the discourse while the other one is trying to deny scriptural standpoint on murder no wonder they all embracing atheism because it gives them the liberty that they want which is self pleasure and spiritual lawlessness.

Emarvel:

And what about those that die during childbirth; Did you hold anyone responsible?
And also what about the successful abortion, any reason to wail?

demmymoney:


Yes brotherly, I was once tending towards atheism until I received light that truly God exists. In atheism anything goes no standard for morality,no moral compass all because of their perverted beliefs and thoughts.

Atheism said religion killed more people in history than any other thing but atheists, radicalized feminists want to be killing babies camouflaging under reproductive rights they can't even call themselves ABORTIONISTS..... Mad people!!!!!

Atheism is the dumbest belief ever because without God there will be no atheist!!!!!

Lawly:
op this is a common sense thing na.

If you say you want to have the right to decide what to do with your body by committing abortion, do you want to tell me that you will now want to be conferred with the right to terminate the life of another person simply because it's your body? do you want to tell me that the person (unborn child) should not have a right also because you want to have your own right? are you not being wicked and selfish? did the unborn child put itself there in your womb'? why would you want to punish the child for your own act?
if your parents did same to you and you have opportunity in your spirit form to express yourself, how would you feel?

God has already warned us to avoid fornication. aborted children always results from fornication. no married couple would want to have abortion no matter what. Have you not heard that all lives belong to God and the government? don't you know the principle of law that says that your right ends where another person's right commences? Abortion is not part of the human rights envisaged by the great philosophers and theorists of law upon which modern international laws and many national laws were built upon bcs it runs contrary to the definition and meaning of a right.
These days people come out with all manners of things and start protesting that it should be recognized as their rights. I won't be surprised if in the near future terrorists too start advocating for the right to live and kill others.
That child has a right to life which overrides your assumed right. That has been ordained by both divine law and mortal laws. PLEASE RESPECT THAT.

Hermes119:


You guys make it look like the woman slashes the babies throat. In abortion the foetus is simply removed from the woman's body,yes it dies in the process because it can not survive ON ITS OWN which shows it isn't human being just yet and I can't pick the life of an undeveloped human over the life and comfort of the mother who it is totally dependent on
This is one of my prospectives on the issue

Erojepromise:
op l second your motion " abortion should be legalized" those girls bashing you and preaching the gospel are hypocrites , check well most girls who carry religious beliefs concerning have engaged in pre marital sex and have usually done an abortion.
Abortion should be legalized on the basis that girls who don't have the resources to cater for a child are forced to bear the challenges or if the pregnancy is unwanted of course girls that have been sexually harassed and therefore impregnated . also the stigma that society place on single mothers should stop and be a part of the reasons abortion should be legalized. Also proper education should be given to females on the use of contraceptives and protection to avoid pregnancy and standard facilities and well trained medical practitioners should be introduced in the society . enough of that religious big

demmymoney:



No problem nah, then rape should also b legalized ahbi

Hermes119:

I've chosen not to respond to ur comparison between rape and abortion bit since u have engaged me I will

I agree that ABORTION LEADS TO DEATH so a harm is done,but what I am saying is that the PROs of removing an UNWANTED pregnancy especially at its earliest stages(within the first 2months) outweighs the CONs of carrying it to full term ,having and raising a child unprepared, something that poses a risk to the life and the quality of living of the mother and the child that would be brought into the world.

In the case of rape the PRO is simply the sexual gratification which the man enjoys for a few minutes,the CONs include the psychological, emotional and physical trauma the woman faces for the rest of her life,she might even get infected with a deadly STI and die in the process so her life is even at threat. So clearly the CONs outweigh the PRO hence I consider it wrong.

The only argument I can consider valid against abortion is from the perspective of "THE SANCTITY OF LIFE" which posits that human life is sacred and shouldn't be taken without a justifiable cause,but as I already pointed out,I consider it justifiable to remove an unwanted pregnancy because by my own assessment the PROs outweigh the CONs .
This doesn't mean I lack empathy towards the defenseless foetuses cos I was once like that but I'm not narrow minded or sentimental, I'm being Logical

livingchrist:
both are the same infact abortion is even worst because it involves taking the life of another.

MhisTahrah:
I'm tired of the incessant explanations. Read this very carefully because it is my last reply to y'all Bible-thumping pro-lifers on this thread.Rape can never be and is not the same as abortion. I'm speechless rn, like seriously?Your zombieism is on another level entirely. If you're so passionate about giving every pregnancy a chance irrespective of how it came about, level of preparedness of parent(s), mental health of parents, derailment of mother's life, economic situation of parents and so on, please offer to have the foetus transferred to you.Carry it to term and adopt it, goodbye.

Kelgabriel5:

How do you people sleep after killing babies/humans/embryos whichever u choose to call them. The fact is there is a human life involved. If you cannot consider their own choice to life then right to abortion is a selfish right that has nothing humane about it. No amount of explanation u can do will convince me that that baby/life u want to terminate does not deserve a shot at life. Then murder should be legalized too cos I cannot fathom a reason to take away any human life at any stage of evolution.

demmymoney:



Regardless if we can not advocate for more sex education, contraceptives,Strong adoption policies, Sterilization....then we can never make abortion legal cos I don't understand why u are such A PASSIONATE ABORTIONIST CAMOUFLAGING UNDER REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

And if u still insist on being a Passionate Abortionist I will always b here to give u rationale about making RAPE LEGAL!!!

goodbye!!

Twelfthman:


So in other words it is better to KILL an unborn child than give birth to it. Don't sugarcoat or twist it. It is murder!

demmymoney:


Thank God u just practically said Abortion is murder in the highlighted bolded statement above.....

Rape and abortion is the same because they both involve penetrative sex, they don't consider the opposite person involved in the penetrative sex rights or opinions and they both pass through the process of DISCHARGE.

MOREOVER BOTH FOETUS AND SPERM ARE NOT CONSIDERED HUMAN LIFE