Agreed 100%

IamMobisola:


Yeah involving a lawyer is the best bet then because the way the world is turning to you can't trust anyone not even an ex-partner.

1TrippleCee:



You are completely blind to not see what the father is doing here with such a comment

You are also being stupid not to see the point the person you quoted is making

Simple tactics, she wan hold on to the boy make hin dey use am collect foreign currency...

Scenario one, u hold on to the boy, hin papa no go send u, no expect anything from him, u take full responsibility of the boy, u get slim chance of having another guy wey go wan help u take care of him, trust some naija guyz, to them, u be after one, dem no send u or ur son... and lastly, u get plenty beggings and explanation to give in the future on how u ended up being a stumbing block to ur son, hin papa go dey europe with another barny wey go don born another one for am..

Scenario two, u release the boy to his dad, forget communication, he is just 10, hin papa no go send u, if he is God fearing, maybe a phone conversation once in 4month. On the bright side, u get the chance to start ur life afresh, another mumu guy fit wife u, u don't have to hide the fact that u already gave birth, tell am ur ex husband ran away with ur child to Europe, matter no pas like dat, if the young boy deems it fit to find you in the future, e go come for you..

Summary
if u hold on to the boy now, the pain dey future..
If u release the boy to go have a better future, the pain is just only now...

The odds are against u on the boy

erniok:

She's not the sole owner! She's not the sole owner!! Now the child can't go without her say so. Who then is really the sole owner?

The acclaimed sole owner(woman) also can't travel with the child without the man's consent, unless she has some evidence of divorce or custody of the child.

So, it's a 2 way thing, because both couples have equal rights to the child.

A man go pay your bride price, feed you, pay your bills, house you, take care of your antenatal and postnatal periods, and at the end of the day, the child resulting from the union go come be your own, abi?

Story!

Its normal to fill up a consent form the child is still a minor.

flexyrule:


Ordinarily, as a man. I'm supposed to support your husband.

But I grew up with my mum, under similar circumstance, and I'll gladly advise you to keep your boy!

My mum wasn't doing too well, but she was able to afford us top-notch parental love, a decent eduction, clothes, food, and a roof over our head.

Everyone advised her to send us to our dad who was doing pretty well.

At the end, I'm glad I grew up under the care of my mum.

Till date, when I look back at my childhood, we might not have had a luxurious life, but the love she gave us was instrumental to everything that we've become today.

Dont let anyone confuse you. All that glitter isn't gold.

Mtcheeeeew. You never saw the other side.

You're really not in position to use your situation to judge.

@op you're not paranoid. Just being selfish.

You're not considering your child or your former husband's needs.

Just your own needs.

He wants to take my child away. He wants to fill his head against me. He wants to do this or that against me.

It's all about your selfish reason. I don't even know if you actually care about the boy other than using him as a weapon at this point.

Please your husband is also a father of the child. He holds equal right over that child as you. And probably loves that boy more than you.

So technically it's not your child but both of yours.

Secondly, he was bold enough to leave the child with you to travel out. Love no be to cuddle somebody up all the time.

Love is also about finding the best opportunity for the one you love

Please put your selfish needs aside for once and actually think about your boy and his father's needs. Especially your Boy's needs for godsake

Printme:


Mtcheeeeew. You never saw the other side.

You're really not in position to use your situation to judge.

The topic was meant for people who have a family, can provide for their family, and have experience.

You that is still battling with Garri and hunger, your judgment would definitely be seimental.

People like you have no business whatsoever with topics like these.

Offpoint1:

You sound like someone from a disfunctional home

So people from dysfunctional homes should have opinions again?

flexyrule:


The topic was meant for people who have a family, can provide for their family, and have experience.

You that is still battling with Garri and hunger, your judgment would definitely be seimental.

People like you have no business whatsoever with topics like these.

lolz.

Someone is triggered. Be like your mother really made you soft

BadBradley:
of course, there must be an official reason for his visa application and citizenship application and he just gave the embassy one.

Now don't be a self centered stupid snowflake. The boy doesn't belong to you. Don't ruin his chances by your wicked female antics.

You and I know females hardly can raise a male.

Let him go and he will come back to you.

Hold on, he will never forgive you later

Females hardly raise males...


Notorious B.I.G. was abandoned
by his father when he was 2.

Kate Beckinsale lost her father
when he died when she was 6.

Halle Berry was abandoned by
her father when she was 4.

Mary J. Blige was abandoned by
her father when she was 4.

Orlando Bloom lost his father
when he died when he was 4.

Mariah Carey had little contact
with her father after her parents
divorce when she was 3.

50 Cent never knew his father
and lost his mother when he was
8.

Eric Clapton never knew his real
father. He grew up thinking his
grandparents were his parents
and his mother his sister.

Bill Clinton lost his father in a car
accident 3 month before he was
born.

Stephen Colbert lost his father
and two brothers in a plane crash
when he was 10.

Sean Combs was 3 when he lost
his father who was murdered.

Tom Cruise has said that he
suffered from abuse as a child by
his father.

Jodie Foster grew up without a
father after her parents separated
before she was born.

Jamie Foxx was abandoned by
both his parents and raised by his
adopted grandparents.

Cary Grant grew up thinking his
mother had abandoned him when
she really was in a mental
institution.

Adrian Grenier grew up not
knowing who his father was.

Laird Hamilton was abandoned
by his father when he was an
infant.

Enrique Iglesias was raised
mainly by his nanny, Elvira
Olvarez.

Samuel L. Jackson only met his
father twice during his life.

Jay-Z was abandoned by his
father.

Alicia Keys grew up without a
father.

Kid Cudi lost his father to cancer
when he was 11.

Martin Lawrence rarely saw his
father after his parents divorced
when he was 8.

John Lennon grew up without a
father and lost his mother when
he was 17.

Jet Li lost his father when he was
2.

LL Cool J grew up with an
abusive father.

Lindsay Lohan grew up without a
father while he was in prison.

Shelby Lynne lost her mother
and father in a murder suicide
when she was 17.

Madonna lost her mother to
cancer when she was 5.

Paul McCartney lost his mother
to cancer when he was 14.

Sarah McLachlan was adopted
and never knew her birth father.

Eva Mendes was raised by her
single mother after her parents
divorced.

Marilyn Monroe grew up without
a father.

Demi Moore was abandoned by
her father before she was born.

Eddie Murphy lost his father
when he was killed when he was
8.

Jack Nicholson never knew his
real father.

Shaquille O'Neal grew up
without his birth father.

Barack Obama met his father
only once before he died in a car
crash.

Clive Owen was abandoned by
his father when he was 3.

Al Pacino grew up in his
grandparents’ home with his
mother.

Guy Pearce lost his father in a
work related accident when he
was 8.

Mekhi Phifer grew up without a
father having never met him.


Sarah Polley lost her mother to
cancer when she was 11.


Ellen Pompeo lost her mother
when she was 4.

Gabrielle Reece lost her father
when she was 5.

Julia Roberts lost her father
when she was 10.

Alex Rodriguez was abandoned
by his father when he was 7.

Ronaldinho lost his father from a
heart attack when he was 8.

Jason Schwartzman lost his
father to cancer when he was 13.

Tupac Shakur grew up not
knowing his birth father while his
stepfather went to prison when he
was 2.

Anderson Silva was raised by
his aunt.

Gene Simmons was abandoned
by his father when he was 3.

David Spade was abandoned by
his father.

Jon Stewart was raised primarily
by his mother.

Barbra Streisand lost her father
when she was 2.

Charlize Theron grew up with an
abusive and alcoholic father.

Shania Twain was abandoned
by her birth father.

Liv Tyler didn’t know who her
birth father was until she was 9.

Raoul Wallenberg lost his father
to cancer 3 months before he was
born.

Orson Welles lost his mother
when he was 11 and his father
when he was 15.

Kanye West was abandoned by
his father when he was 3.

Angelina Jolie Angelina Jolie's parents, Jon
Voight and Marcheline Bertrand,separated when the Mr. and Mrs.
Smith actress was an infant. Jolie was raised by her mother and she
was estranged from her father for many years.



President Barack Obama was
raised by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, from the time that he was born until he was four years old, when she married Lolo
Soetoro.


Pierce Brosnan's father abandoned his family when the Matador actor was a baby. He
was raised by his mother May
Smith until he was four years old,at which point his grandparents took over the primary parenting
responsibilities.


Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart's parents, Marian
and Donald Leibowitz, divorced
when the "Daily Show" host
was 11 years old, at which
point he was raised by his
mother.

Christina Aguilera
Christina Aguilera's parents,
Fausto Xavier Aguilera and
Shelly Loraine, divorced when
the "Genie in a Bottle" singer
was a little girl. Aguilera has
claimed that her father was
abusive.

Eddie Murphy
Eddie Murphy's father died
when he was very young. He
was raised by his mother,
Lillian, in Roosevelt, New York.


Keanu Reeves
Keanu Reeves's father, Samuel
Nowlin Reeves, Jr., abandoned
his family when the Matrix actor
was just three years old.

Printme:
lolz.

Someone is triggered. Be like your mother really made you soft

Sure she did.

You that your mother made hard, can you afford common GARRI?

Hardman hardman... Shi shi, you no get!

You wan con advise people wey get Job and family.

Jewman

1TrippleCee:



I have trained atleast six. The last has graduated from university.

then free the boy na

BlackfyreRebell:
Please advice me
My ex husband and I are divorced 2 years ago. He recently acquired an European citizenship, he also wants to extend the citizenship to our son. Though I thought it a good idea but I can't shake the feeling that he is trying to use that to take him away from me.
He told me our son will need to come over there to finish the process of his citizenship. But when I went to submit the "application" what I saw on it is different from what he told me. The paper read that I am consenting to my son to go and reunite with his father. Or is that the way they process it?
Please those that have gone through same should please come to my aid, this is my only child and I can't afford to lose my child this way.

Otilor

Zonefree:
[b][/b]
Stop using "my child" when his father is still alive.

God bless you. Women! Smh

Justiceleague1:

Just imagine!!! She won't him again,even when he becomes an adult!

Chai!!!!!

How many of us watched that video of an Afghan woman throwing her baby over the wire fence to American soldiers!!!?
Do you think she really loved that?!

This scenario is different. We are talking about ex lover here and you know that most time each party tries to win the kids over with any trick they can think of

BlackfyreRebell:

If he had discussed that with me i would have seen reason. After all who doesn't want to see their kid progress

He's not after the kids progress, he's trying to cut you off completely. No gree for him

When the boy come of age, he will decide where he wants to be

LilMissFavvy:
Don't release your child. You should only allow the boy to go when he's 18- 20yrs. If you release your child to him, he will definitely manipulate the boy and cut links with you. Keep your child. What stops him from taking you along? Be wise.

Your child, your child as though the child is a property..

1TrippleCee:



Your son needs just God and you for a brighter future not Europe o. Boys without maternal care in Europe in this early formative years will only amount to a gangster. Its better he is Godly and you grow at the pace God wants for you abeg

Nah! Thats a big Faux, I'd say its the reverse here. Kids without fathers are the worse kind.

When traveling with your kid here, if you want to relocate or bring them from africa. you need your wife/PARTNER consent if the kid is under 18, that's standard process but tbh i cant speak for the father since he knows his intentions alone

shomutuski:



Nah! Thats a big Faux, I'd say its the reverse here. Kids without fathers are the worse kind.

When traveling with your kid here, if you want to relocate or bring them from africa. you need your wife/PARTNER consent if the kid is under 18, that's standard process but tbh i cant speak for the father since he knows his intentions alone

Especially the girls.

When they don't have a father figure in their life what do you expect?

See the likes of Siofra, JennyClay Edo girl whose pussy will soon be served korofomatically by people I know , Magnolia and sweetbuns my love.

They are in one category

DWJOBScom:


You really sound so poor
So going to Europe is a guarantee to bright future ?
So many kids are here with terrible habits because single parents are busy and cannot instil basic discipline.
The man can't even keep a home and now he wants to be a great Dad because he is now in Europe - you so so poor

Keep a home? Did you see anywhere the OP said anything about why they are divorced?
that should tell you something.
Ask her why they got divorced.

Do you keep fire inside your pocket?

A lady who is shouting "my son" instead of "our son" shout tell you something.

BlackfyreRebell:
Please advice me
My ex husband and I are divorced 2 years ago. He recently acquired an European citizenship, he also wants to extend the citizenship to our son. Though I thought it a good idea but I can't shake the feeling that he is trying to use that to take him away from me.
He told me our son will need to come over there to finish the process of his citizenship. But when I went to submit the "application" what I saw on it is different from what he told me. The paper read that I am consenting to my son to go and reunite with his father. Or is that the way they process it?
Please those that have gone through same should please come to my aid, this is my only child and I can't afford to lose my child this way.

My Dad's friend who is Canadian wanted to take me to Canada after secondary school for studies after asking if I would be interested and I answered in the affirmative.

All of a sudden the man went mute, after about 3 months I asked the man and he said my parent didn't consent, when i eventually asked my parent i realized it was my dad that refused, its been 18 years now and our relationship never remained the same.

Whatever decision you make put the child's interest first.

LilMissFavvy:
Take her along as his sons mother, if he doesn't want that, then he should be ready to forget her child.

"He should be ready to forget her child"

This is the kind of illiterates giving you advice.

This man will surely come one day for his son whether you allow him to go now or not.

flexyrule:


Females hardly raise males...


Notorious B.I.G. was abandoned
by his father when he was 2.

Kate Beckinsale lost her father
when he died when she was 6.

Halle Berry was abandoned by
her father when she was 4.

Mary J. Blige was abandoned by
her father when she was 4.

Orlando Bloom lost his father
when he died when he was 4.

Mariah Carey had little contact
with her father after her parents
divorce when she was 3.

50 Cent never knew his father
and lost his mother when he was
8.

Eric Clapton never knew his real
father. He grew up thinking his
grandparents were his parents
and his mother his sister.

Bill Clinton lost his father in a car
accident 3 month before he was
born.

Stephen Colbert lost his father
and two brothers in a plane crash
when he was 10.

Sean Combs was 3 when he lost
his father who was murdered.

Tom Cruise has said that he
suffered from abuse as a child by
his father.

Jodie Foster grew up without a
father after her parents separated
before she was born.

Jamie Foxx was abandoned by
both his parents and raised by his
adopted grandparents.

Cary Grant grew up thinking his
mother had abandoned him when
she really was in a mental
institution.

Adrian Grenier grew up not
knowing who his father was.

Laird Hamilton was abandoned
by his father when he was an
infant.

Enrique Iglesias was raised
mainly by his nanny, Elvira
Olvarez.

Samuel L. Jackson only met his
father twice during his life.

Jay-Z was abandoned by his
father.

Alicia Keys grew up without a
father.

Kid Cudi lost his father to cancer
when he was 11.

Martin Lawrence rarely saw his
father after his parents divorced
when he was 8.

John Lennon grew up without a
father and lost his mother when
he was 17.

Jet Li lost his father when he was
2.

LL Cool J grew up with an
abusive father.

Lindsay Lohan grew up without a
father while he was in prison.

Shelby Lynne lost her mother
and father in a murder suicide
when she was 17.

Madonna lost her mother to
cancer when she was 5.

Paul McCartney lost his mother
to cancer when he was 14.

Sarah McLachlan was adopted
and never knew her birth father.

Eva Mendes was raised by her
single mother after her parents
divorced.

Marilyn Monroe grew up without
a father.

Demi Moore was abandoned by
her father before she was born.

Eddie Murphy lost his father
when he was killed when he was
8.

Jack Nicholson never knew his
real father.

Shaquille O'Neal grew up
without his birth father.

Barack Obama met his father
only once before he died in a car
crash.

Clive Owen was abandoned by
his father when he was 3.

Al Pacino grew up in his
grandparents’ home with his
mother.

Guy Pearce lost his father in a
work related accident when he
was 8.

Mekhi Phifer grew up without a
father having never met him.


Sarah Polley lost her mother to
cancer when she was 11.


Ellen Pompeo lost her mother
when she was 4.

Gabrielle Reece lost her father
when she was 5.

Julia Roberts lost her father
when she was 10.

Alex Rodriguez was abandoned
by his father when he was 7.

Ronaldinho lost his father from a
heart attack when he was 8.

Jason Schwartzman lost his
father to cancer when he was 13.

Tupac Shakur grew up not
knowing his birth father while his
stepfather went to prison when he
was 2.

Anderson Silva was raised by
his aunt.

Gene Simmons was abandoned
by his father when he was 3.

David Spade was abandoned by
his father.

Jon Stewart was raised primarily
by his mother.

Barbra Streisand lost her father
when she was 2.

Charlize Theron grew up with an
abusive and alcoholic father.

Shania Twain was abandoned
by her birth father.

Liv Tyler didn’t know who her
birth father was until she was 9.

Raoul Wallenberg lost his father
to cancer 3 months before he was
born.

Orson Welles lost his mother
when he was 11 and his father
when he was 15.

Kanye West was abandoned by
his father when he was 3.

Angelina Jolie Angelina Jolie's parents, Jon
Voight and Marcheline Bertrand,separated when the Mr. and Mrs.
Smith actress was an infant. Jolie was raised by her mother and she
was estranged from her father for many years.



President Barack Obama was
raised by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, from the time that he was born until he was four years old, when she married Lolo
Soetoro.


Pierce Brosnan's father abandoned his family when the Matador actor was a baby. He
was raised by his mother May
Smith until he was four years old,at which point his grandparents took over the primary parenting
responsibilities.


Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart's parents, Marian
and Donald Leibowitz, divorced
when the "Daily Show" host
was 11 years old, at which
point he was raised by his
mother.

Christina Aguilera
Christina Aguilera's parents,
Fausto Xavier Aguilera and
Shelly Loraine, divorced when
the "Genie in a Bottle" singer
was a little girl. Aguilera has
claimed that her father was
abusive.

Eddie Murphy
Eddie Murphy's father died
when he was very young. He
was raised by his mother,
Lillian, in Roosevelt, New York.


Keanu Reeves
Keanu Reeves's father, Samuel
Nowlin Reeves, Jr., abandoned
his family when the Matrix actor
was just three years old.

I see a lot of drug addicts, coogars and sociopaths in your list.

Seems like you idea of success is measured by celebrity status.

You shouldn't have wasted your time typing all that poetic sentiments up there.

I will point you to a simple fact: the far majority of teenage pregnancies are from single mother homes. Also American jails are full of African American men from single mother homes as well

Dust off the sentiment.

IamMobisola:

Please don't listen to most of the fo*ols telling you to allow the child go with his father. If your ex-husband had good intentions in the first place, he wouldn't lie and deceive you by telling you that he is only going to go there to aoply for citizenship, he would have told you about needing your consent to allow the boy come meet him. If you do so, you will loose your son forever.

Someone said you are a closet demon and I totally agree.

Enskynelson:

Let me ask you one final question: did the man tell her the implication of the citizenship, that the boy will be living with him? Why would he not explain that? It may not be far from being deliberate.

Do you honestly believe that every detail of their conversation is what was written in the thread? You really believe that the conversation went from 'i'd like for junior to try to get European citizenship (no response from the mother, no questions, no objections, no plannings, no scheduling) to her filling forms? Because this is what this thread says. He told her the boy should come over so he can get citizenship but when she was filling the forms she found it confusing that the boy would be 're-uniting with the father'.

You truly believe believe that's all it took for her to start filling the forms?

BlackfyreRebell:
Please advice me
My ex husband and I are divorced 2 years ago. He recently acquired an European citizenship, he also wants to extend the citizenship to our son. Though I thought it a good idea but I can't shake the feeling that he is trying to use that to take him away from me.
He told me our son will need to come over there to finish the process of his citizenship. But when I went to submit the "application" what I saw on it is different from what he told me. The paper read that I am consenting to my son to go and reunite with his father. Or is that the way they process it?
Please those that have gone through same should please come to my aid, this is my only child and I can't afford to lose my child this way.

15 years from now, that kid will be struggling to go to the same Europe through Sahara Desert and Mediterranean Sea. If you like, keep holding on to foolishness.

lawrenzooo:


My Dad's friend who is Canadian wanted to take me to Canada after secondary school for studies after asking if I would be interested and I answered in the affirmative.

All of a sudden the man went mute, after about 3 months I asked the man and he said my parent didn't consent, when i eventually asked my parent i realized it was my dad that refused, its been 18 years now and our relationship never remained the same.

Whatever decision you make put the child's interest first.

Word. Once the truth come out, that which she fears will happen and be multiplied in many folds.

1TrippleCee:



Your son needs just God and you for a brighter future not Europe o. Boys without maternal care in Europe in this early formative years will only amount to a gangster. Its better he is Godly and you grow at the pace God wants for you abeg

I don't think you really know what you are talking about.

Studies have shown that children from single mother home are more likely to be delinquent compared to kids from single dad home. Kids need both parents at their formative years and most importantly a father figure plays a huge rule during this delicate period.

How many times have you heard of someone being described as having daddy issue compared to having mommy issue?

BlackfyreRebell:
Please advice me
My ex husband and I are divorced 2 years ago. He recently acquired an European citizenship, he also wants to extend the citizenship to our son. Though I thought it a good idea but I can't shake the feeling that he is trying to use that to take him away from me.
He told me our son will need to come over there to finish the process of his citizenship. But when I went to submit the "application" what I saw on it is different from what he told me. The paper read that I am consenting to my son to go and reunite with his father. Or is that the way they process it?
Please those that have gone through same should please come to my aid, this is my only child and I can't afford to lose my child this way.

Allow the young man go to his father, hopefully to a better life.
Always put him in your prayers that he doesn't go astray.

BlackfyreRebell:
Please advice me
My ex husband and I are divorced 2 years ago. He recently acquired an European citizenship, he also wants to extend the citizenship to our son. Though I thought it a good idea but I can't shake the feeling that he is trying to use that to take him away from me.
He told me our son will need to come over there to finish the process of his citizenship. But when I went to submit the "application" what I saw on it is different from what he told me. The paper read that I am consenting to my son to go and reunite with his father. Or is that the way they process it?
Please those that have gone through same should please come to my aid, this is my only child and I can't afford to lose my child this way.

Married people and their problem. I hope the European citizenship is not what is making you paranoid here.

femi4:
This scenario is different. We are talking about ex lover here and you know that most time each party tries to win the kids over with any trick they can think of

Still doesn't change the fact that it's better out there in Europe for the kid