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mapet:
Me too Bro.

I flew in from SA a day after 2015 election, but was so glad I didn't miss 2019.

You are a true progressive.
God bless you bro.

wiseoneking:
Because of these 1890 train by PMB, you are making this open confession? NawaaOh

If only Your useless PDP had given me a 1900 train, I might have campaign for them.
Buhari the lifeless one will eventually become the father of mordern Nigeria.
God bless Buhari for acheiving so much even in a depressed economy.

9jaDoomCountry:
The last time I visited Europe these are what I saw and entered.

Eyaa sorry o, let me manage this moderate train.
Awon oniranu.

DTaj:
The daft, ungrateful Obaseki was in Lagos (as CEO of Afrinvest) when this same Oshiomhole invited him into government and made him DG of the Edo State Economic Management Team; and despite the huge resistance of his longstanding political friends and associates (and some of them abandoned Oshiomhole because of Obaseki), he did EVERYTHING to have Obaseki elected as Governor!

I have a friend in Edo State public service hierarchy who told me that Obaseki was so powerful under Oshiomhole that he practically sidestepped the Deputy Governor, Pius Odubu. Yet, this same Obaseki has insulted Oshiomhole to the heavens and back. He has also allowed nonentities like Osagie and other fools to continue to insult Oshiomhole every day.

Some people say Oshiomhole should forgive Obaseki. How? The father (Oshiomhole) had long kept quiet, yet, the son (Obaseki) mounts the podium personally and through his appointees and daft minions (such as Oyegun) to insult the father EVERYDAY! Yet, you want forgiveness! Now, he has gone, with his tails by his legs, to beg Tinubu to help him in his already failed plot. I dey laugh!

I do not care whatever caused the rift between those two; however, I dislike UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE! Obaseki should start packing his bags, as he returns to Lagos soon. He should ask Ambode for the handout on ‘political treachery and ingratitude’.

And talking about Covid-19 and APC primaries; Obaseki is just being clever by half! A direct primary will NOT involve putting 400,000 people in one location. That was a thoughtless lie! Direct primaries are done at Local Government headquarters of political parties. The Edo direct primaries can be successfully done through social distancing and wearing of face mask at each LG secretariat of APC.

Now, to even stretch Obaseki’s dumb reason further, would he ask INEC to conduct indirect election in September? Won’t Edo people still gather in their polling booths to vote amidst Covid-19

Obaseki, you are already gone. Start planning your retirement back to Lagos, Ikoyi precisely!

Wow.

stickle:
Meaning the general election will also be indirect?
While not trying to make case for godfatherism but the lesson here is that, don't destroy the ladder that lift you up, you may need it to come down.
Simple wisdom would have enable this man to manage whatever was and is the difference between Oshiomole and himself. Fashola did it with Tinubu and was able to finish his second term, they also try stopping him from being appointed as a minister but he also managed the situation.
I am against Obaseki's approach, beside God Oshiomole was reason he is governor today. He should have a reason to be grateful and not plotting national emberrashment for his benefactor.
My long story is; Obaseki is not a wise person. Those hailing him today will stone him once he is out of power. This is Nigeria!

Word.

whizzler:
Exactly!!! Having 6000 plus delegate gather in one place is likely to pose more danger to the spread of the virus than having less than 200 (in some units) card carrying members gather in one place and vote.
This excuse by the governor does not hold water

Finally, a sensible post.
Only God knows what happened to Obaseki's brain, he thinks everyone is an idiot like him.
Imagine such a useless excuse, he should come up with a better excuse.

sageb:
@7lives The way my grandpa take slaughtered Ijaws and Mahins for eyin osa at Epe, till tomorrow people still fear him in that Ibeju Lekki Epe axis.
elucidate on the above

Its true o, the Ijaws and Mahins we're coming to raid Epe water side and Epe Lagos in those days.
Sacking villages in the area, killing and capturing people as slaves, until they met their Waterloo in Balogun Agoro Iposun, who incidentally was also the Balogun to King Kosoko of Lagos.
He was with King Kosoko in Lagos, before the British colonialists forcefully exiled Kosoko to Epe.
Balogun Agoro met Epe people in pains having just lost a battle to these Marauders.
So he set up his own watch everywhere on the waters in Epe.
I don't want to sound mean, there is a place called ITEBU at eyin osa in Ibeju Lekki, this is where most of these Invaders were drowned.
The few that survived fled an never come back, some of the mountains and walls of sands used as defense shields, are still in his personal village in Epe, his presence became a reality check for the Invaders, so all of them keep off.
His relics of wars are in his palace at Oke Iposun in Epe.

Afriifa:
I can't deduce exactly what Aye means in Ijaw per say, but I can tell you toro means water or coast, sea, but it has to do with water like other names like, Mein-toru, in delta l, Akoku toro, Asare Toru in rivers. next?

Aye Toro, is a Yoruba language.
It means the world is peaceful, or peaceful world.

Sunshineg5:
Don't mind them

Ayetoro is the closest community to the river in Ondo.

What is Ayetoro in ijaw language

Chai

Afriifa:
despite your rumblings and forcely classifying them as yorubas, the undeniable facts still remains that they are Ijaw and that can never change even with your yorubanized mission. about names and dressing, oga don't deceive yourself. if you're closer to the Ijaws, you would know that Ijaws are not tribalistic with name-given. even in Nigeria, we are the only tribe with most foreign names. They can give any name that pleases them, it has nothing to do with being converted or that. in Rivers, we have Ijaws bearing Igboic names. that does not mean dey av been igbonized. see there is one prominent man called Barister Ajuwa in Ondo state, He's seemingly bearing a Yoruba name, but he speaks Ijaw eloquently than most ijaws in Delta state. Karinto is an Ijaw High life Musician from Ondo state, I have heard so many of his songs, and I can tell you, nothing is missing as Ijaw in them. oh as for the names, I forgot, even my Surname 'Afrifa' is not an Ijaw name but a Ghanaian name. I'm bearing it in all my documents. does that make me a ghanian? about the dressings, ask Tacha who is Ijaw but dresses like Ibo. ooh too far, ask Aunty Bisola who bears Yoruba name but Ijaw.

Cut the long story short, the Ijaws of Ondo state are migrants, they can as well relocate to Bayelsa.

Sunshineg5:
You see your problem

Awori came straight from Ife and founded towns in Ogun state like Sango Ota as well

There are three Yoruba groups in Lagos together with the Eguns

Ijebu: Epe, ibeju and Ikorodu

ilajes : Majority of the areas around the water bodies

Awori: Majority of Island and Mainland including parts of Badagry

Egun: Badagry


You better stop listening to Radio Biafra, it is damaging your ability to think

Thank you very much, these people are really funny.

hammerP:
Ahhh!

The Awori people are from Bini originally.

They own the main parts of Lagos.


Again, i ask you, who in Lagos is Yoruba?

Awori people are the children of Olofin Asaye.
Olofin is from Ife, he is a great grand child of Oduduwa.
Bini bawo?, rada rada.

Sunshineg5:
Epe is owned by Ijaws and Egun

Ibeju is owned by Ijaws and Eguns

Even Lekki peninsula is owned by ijaw and Egun

It just so happen that all this areas have Yoruba kings and not a single ijaw or Egun king

In addition, ijebu water side in Ogun state and Ilaje local government area in Ondo is being owned by Ijaws and Eguns

They just don't get it, the more they look the less they see, Ijaw ko, Mahin ni.
The way my grandpa take slaughtered Ijaws and Mahins for eyin osa at Epe, till tomorrow people still fear him in that Ibeju Lekki Epe axis.
Any Ijaw living on those waters at Ibaju Lekki are there for bussiness only.
I don't know about any other locations in Lagos, I only speak for Ibeju Lekki and Epe Lagos.

hammerP:
Answer the question, who in Lagos is actually Yoruba?

Every descendant of Oduduwa who lives in Lagos is a Yoruba.
Any other question you might want to ask?,
Mo wa nle fun e.

Sunshineg5:
So which local government did they control in Lagos and Ogun coastal areas?

Atlantic mammy water local government.

RuggedSniper:
Brilliant post! Did you know that some young Edo females living in the Ibo enclave as of 1967 were repeatedly raped by the Ibo rebels who got them pregnant and they were later expelled to Benin with their other Edo kinsmen. The story of the babies born via rape of Edo females can be read for free online as a PDF research on biafra rebel atrocities against Nigerian ethnic minorities. Get it via Google. Cc:PHijo

Thank God for the internet, I'm reading this for the first time.

Daddysidhan:
It is a lie, Igbo can't do such because they are a very nice, good and never do bad bunch of saints. The man narrating that story is a Yoruba man and he looks like LEGEND HERO the Igbo and Biafra hater. Awon werey Omo nna Una don buy market, this is exactly what they have in mind for western Nigeria trying to invade through ORE and when we push back awon oloriburuku called us traitors. They want to enslave our fathers and mothers because of greed God punish any Igbo
Man on this forum that tries to justified what was done to this pakana people.

Their own na to suppress, repress, subdue and subjugate.
Now you understand why the people of Ore battled them to a stand still.
The opression started even before the civil war, this was why professor Sam Aluko, who was employed by Ojukwu as a personal adviser, advised Ojukwu to win the trust of his neighbors before the declaration of Biafra or else his mission will fail.
The leaders that were later rounded up, were the same people who welcome Victor Banjo and the Biafran troops under his command, to SS.
Banjo wrote in his letters to his wife, that he and his troops captured the current land mass under SS, without firing a single bullet.
Banjo said having explained to them that these leaders shall be allowed to be in charge of their people in the new country, they co operated and joined Biafra.
This was a strategy suggested by Victor Banjo, to Ojukwu, this is the only way to make the people feel at ease and co operate with the Biafran authority, or else they will sell out if their existence is threatened.
But while at Ore, begging Obj for passage into SW, the Biafran army stationed in SS, begins to assault the people of SS.
And they cry genocide as if they were handing out soft drinks and cakes during the war.

Olofin Asaye doesn't have a son bearing Ijaw.

Jostoman:
Why didn't Tinubu succeed when he wanted to give fashola the treatment he gave to ambode last year election. When obasanjo wanted to collect Lagos from him in 2003 it was Atiku that beg obasanjo for him, he is now forming jagaban everywhere.

Wetin this one dey talk?.
Atiku wey him and Obj don already become sworn enemy during that period.
Fashola remains Tinubu boy till tomorrow.

seunmsg:
Obaseki’s major problem is how to secure the party’s ticket and not how to win the general election. If he finds a way to secure the ticket, the general is a walkover for him.

Can Obaseki defeat POI to secure APC ticket in an election conducted by Oshiomhole?

They just don't get it.

Amdoyin:
take it or leave it , Tinubu is a Titan in Nigeria's politics

Obaseki no dey shame, wetin he dey find for Tinubu house?.
Having worked with Tinubu, Tinubu believed that Obaseki is good enough to manage Edo state, and so recommend him to Oshiomole.
When a misunderstanding broke out between Obaseki and Oshiomole, Tinubu was about to travel to Benin to mediate on the matter, when he saw Obaseki on TV shouting Edo is not Lagos.
This was how Tinubu abandoned the trip, to what extent did Obaseki not go, to make sure that Oshiomole lost his position as APC national chairman?.
Ungrateful wretch e go dobale taya.

ogbonti:
APC stand to lose more because if Obaseki runs as KOWA party candidate - he will defeat APC Ize-Iyamu and then he will re-join APC as the sitting governor to spite Oshiomole - making it bold and clear he won because he is Obaseki and not because of APC. He will gain much respect that way!!!

na today we bigin see "carpet crossing" in Nigerian politics?

Anyways - looking at this from another angle ..... I see history repeating itself

Some of you guys fail to look back to the Femi Agbalajobi vs. Dapo Sarumi fight for the SDP ticket in Lagos (1991) Gubernatorial elections

Lagos was an SDP state - but when these 2 guys made the primary process so dirty - Sir Michael Otedola of the NRC became a safer choice for Lagosians. Not even the 11th hour presentation of Prince Yomi Edu could save the SDP in Lagos. My thing is Obaseki should let the system play out - Never panic - IF Osho wants to give the ticket to POI - let him do it, but have a backup plan to run on another platform - Always have a plan B so you don't disqualify yourself by not having the option to run with another party and the time to register ran out - this OPTION must be done ASAP!!!

The way Osho is running this fight with Obaseki is not even because he wants APC to win in Edo. Osho will feel vindicated and victorious IF Obaseki loses to anyone - as long as He (Obaseki) is defeated. Maybe he is planning the SARUMI vs AGBALAJOBI mayhem in Edo - so that when the primary becomes too dirty - the people will then vote for any donkey or riff raff presented by the PDP (who may be secretly sponsored by Osho too OR some invisible potential god father) THIS IS WHY OBASEKI SHOULD LET OSHO DO WHATEVER HE LIKES - IF POI WINS THE PRIMARIES- OBASEKI SHOULD IMMEDIATELY SWITCH TO ANOTHER PARTY AND LET US SEE HOW POI WILL WIN - I guess Osho has forgotten what "sympathy votes for the underdog" means in politics. WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT YOU ARE UNFAIRLY TREATED - THEY TEND TO GRAVITATE TO YOU MORE THAN THE PERSON CHOSEN BY THE ESTABLISHMENT, (FACT) - this is why the masses gravitated to Osho in his bid to topple Annenih. This is what will destroy Osho's political future too in Edo - playing God

OSAGIE IZE IYAMU HAS ENOUGH BAGGAGE OF CORRUPTION AND ABUSE OF POWER FROM HIS INVOLVEMENT IN LUCKY IGBINEDION ADMINISTRATION TO NAIL HIM -

YOU DO NOT NEED PARTY TO WIN AN ELECTION WHEN YOU ARE POPULAR - GO ASK OGBORU IN DELTA STATE - HE COULDN'T WIN EVEN AS THE APC PARTY FLAG BEARER - OBASEKI IS POPULAR IN EDO STATE - HE HAS NAME RECOGNITION - APC NEEDS HIM MORE THAN HE NEEDS APC!!!

Why not PDP, anyway ati aja, ati ejo eran jije.
Obaseki is a goner.

princdebola201:
But Edo is not Lagos nau.

Me self I no understand.

Agboriotejoye:
I'm asking you to go and research on the subject of tribalism in Nigeria. If you did, you'll change ur mind about awolowo starting tribalism.
Besides the regional system of govt itself was built on a recognition of tribal differences. So there was no time the colonialists thought Nigeria should be one entity. Awolowo understood that. He was not looking for Yoruba to become the supreme tribe in Nigeria but wanted us to be able to determine our destiny by ourselves. Go and research what he said about Nigeria compared to what Bello or Azikiwe said.

You get time dey explain to them.
Eni ti aye o le mu, ni won ma npe ni were.
They shall continue to cry about Awolowo, so let them cry.

joeyfire:
Its not a crime for a man to be loyal to his tribe and work for their interest. But when that man incites hatred for another tribe as a way of garnering political power that is pure evil. You can protect and work for your tribe without attacking others and creating zombies to hate others also. What makes Awo's own worse is that after saying how bad igbos were for 3 decades he wanted to enter into an alliance with them to checkmate the north. So what happened? The igbos suddenly became angels in his eyes because he finally saw the real threat? Few years later he entered an alliance with the north when it was convenient for his ambition.

Awo, Zik and Bello were not saints and had their flaws. Awo's flaw was the tribalism he created to help his political career

Una go cry taya, very soon Yorubas will declare a day on which were shall celebrate Awolowo, for his great contribution to the development of South West.

Ekwutox:
You write as if Yorubas were not also killed in the north and even killed right in their back yard.

What tribalism do you want to exhibit that you haven't shown before? From the very beginning Yorubas have been chronic tribalists, nothing you say will ever make me believe otherwise.

Any tribe who refused to submit to Igbo domination, is either a tribalist, a religious fanatic or a mumu.
Na you get your mouth, call me anything you like in fact, call me the devil.
Just face the East and leave the west alone.
No be by force to relate with Yorubas, awon awenibaku.

Captainrambo2:
university of Ibadan, unn where all zik.

Wait when you say Awolowo did this and that hope you know Awolowo at best was a regional leader. His policies wasnt national and far reaching unlike the policies of dr azikiwe...... before you go off , just reminding you

National that left Igbos in the sorry state they are today.
There is no profit in subservient politics, it's 50/50 or no deal.
Igbos discovered that the purpose of the merger has been defeated, they thought the North though mumu by natre, will be stupid enough to hand the control of the country to Azikiwe, unfortunately dream dies first.
Ever wander what led to the Jan 66 coup?, and the counter coup, the progrom and the civil war?.
Ignorant folks, na laugh Yoruba dey laugh una.
Awon oni iranu.

Ekwutox:
This thread has strengthened my resolve on the tribalism embedded in the average yoruba man.

Wahala le ko ara yin si, those who are roasting and making suya of Igbos in the North are not tribalists, they are nationalists like Azikiwe.
The moment they can't fleece you, you become their enemy, they are never content with what they have, always scheming to steal from others..
Very soon you people will know the true meaning of tribalism from Yoruba point of view.

Igbochief001:
You really expected zik to partner with awolowo after all awolowo did to zik ?
SMH

Why didn't the north partner with awolowo ...no body trusted the man to keep to his word ...that's how bad he was
Saduna hated the igbos but preferred them over awolowo

Stop trying bro twist history ...zik is and would always be know as a pan Nigerian ..you can never take that away . He was loved by the north more than igbos loved him

Sadauna saw a mumu, that will be easy to deal with than Awolowo.
So what did Zik benefitted from the union, other than being a powerless ceremonial president.
Awo will never agree to such and this is a fact.

Captainrambo2:
Let's call a spade a spade.... he was the genesis

When a hand shake became an embrace, it might eventually become a wrestle match.
Awo with his education and exposure already knew what Zik and his Igbo gang were up to.

The same cannot be said for Alafin, the ONLY way to stop the impending catastrophy, is to dethrone the " Gbewudani ", that calls himself an Alafin.
You see Alafin's forefathers have always defend Yorubaland, but this particular Alafin CANNOT read between the lines.
Thank God for Awolowo, Yorubaland will probably be struggling to get out of Igbo subjugation now.
I shudder to imagine, what if Zik was the premier of Western Nigeria during the Biafran war, it would have been an easy annexation of Yoruba land.
After years of slavery to white man, another 100 years of colonization, na to enter another round of servitude to Igbos?.
God bless Awolowo for being a man of foresight.

successmatters:
The damage this country faced was as a result of many years of propaganda from the Lagos - Ibadan express rumour mill which nobody had time to challenge back then.

The Internet has just exposed all the lies. Thank you Pazienza

This one is yet to smell the coffee, you need to wake up.
Coming online to recreate history CAN'T change facts that are already set in stones.

diplomat058:
Yea, bro. That is the beauty of democracy. What I don't understand are the allegations of infidelity/betrayal that some people are peddling as if we had some covenants way back.

It's called psychology, they want to make you feel guilty, for the crime they've committed against you since independence.
Stand by your decision, I'm a Buharist to the bone and I don't feel guilty.