olabowale:

@Davidylan: You are the student, still. I was honest. The Crusade did not happen in Europe.
It took off from Europe to kill muslims in Palestine. It is you who should stop disgracing your
history teacher. Even though I hated history in school.

Each time you respond you not only exhibit your brand of mohammedan dishonesty but you also show urself as a very poor student of history.
1. Up until 1948, the term "palestinian" refered to Jews.
2. Palestine is NOT an arab term but a term give to the land of Isreal by Emperor Hadrian in after crushing the jewish revolt that resulted from the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem by the Titus army. Lest i forget, there were no arabs there.

3. the crusades where the christian response to the conquering of Jerusalem by the muslim mauraders who came to finish up what the Romans left behind. Muslims are NOT indigenous to Jerusalem . . .

4. here is another question . . . muslims LIE that jerusalem is the 3rd holiest site in islam BUT while Mecca and medinah are mentioned hundreds of times in the quran and hadith . . . Jerusalem is NOT MENTIONED ONCE!

olabowale:

Please show me the proof of the involvement of the Grand Mufti of 'Jerusalem' direct involvement
in the NAZI effort against the Jews of Europe.

On March 1, 1944, while speaking on Radio Berlin, al-Husayni said:
'Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you

Pls see below a copy of a telegram from Himmler to the grand mufti: (English translation below): November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: 'To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. [b]It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.' Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler[/b]

Picture: Mohammed Amin Al Husayni and Hitler

Let's a White House Intern named his/her crippled dog "Bush" and just observe what would happen the next morning in the so-called 'secular America'.

That british woman should have known that Khartoum is no Liverpool and threrefore guided those innocent kids accordingly. In Khartoum there are values/people/laws (blasphemy) that must be respected and the name Muhammad (a household name even in Britain) is one of such.

Let's the poor woman face the wrath of the law JARE!, afterall Sudan is not Nigeria.

Abi??

@Davidylan: I am very shocked at your narrow of understanding truth. But I
will excuse you, of displaying clear ignorance. You may be blinded by rage in
effort to win at all cause, all is fair in way. That is your slogan; But here, from
what the Mufti stated, we see that he was talking about his people's plight
under some form of abuse by the Jews and their monies, even at that time.

Further, from the tone of the letter of Himmler, one will see that it addressed the Issue
of Palestine, directly. The place you dishonoringly said did not have any noticeable
population of Arab and was when it was called palestine, it was referring to the Jews!

David, you can never be honorable, if you lie this openly. Be shameful at least. Did you
know that the plkace was known as Palestine even before the Children of Israel were
emancipated by Allah from Egypt, through the leadership of Moses? Have you ever heard
of the people called philistines? Where was there homeland, before the Children of Israel
conquered Jerusalem, Jericho, etc?

The affairs of world Islam, is alway sent to Makka and Madina, and not Jerusalem, duuh!

Finally, you did not even have the gul to show me the Islamic youth movement as you did
emptyly promised. Okay, anyone will remember the Rothchild and Prescott Bush involvement
with the 3rd Reich. Rothchild banking family are Jewish. has anyone accused the Jews trying
to exterminate themselves, because of this relation of Rothchild Banking family?

Has anyone accused the whole of the USA because of this relationship with Prescott Bush?

In both cases no. But anyone did, it would have been considered dishonest! Your assertion to
paint Islam in this case is even more pathetic. Good night, John Boy.

ussyman:

Let's a White House Intern named his/her crippled dog "Bush" and just observe what would happen the next morning in the so-called 'secular America'.

My dear slave of allah, stop being dishonest! People name monkeys after Bush and heaven is not falling. If anything happened to the intern who names her dog bush, Bush would cease to be president that day.
Stop crying like the liars you muslims are . . .

ussyman:

That british woman should have known that Khartoum is no Liverpool and threrefore guided those innocent kids accordingly. In Khartoum there are values/people/laws (blasphemy) that must be respected and the name Muhammad (a household name even in Britain) is one of such.

Either you cant read or you are just following the footsteps of ur father the devil who has been a liar from the begining. The children VOTED to have the bear named mohammed. It was not the woman who picked the name!
Since when did mohamadu's name become something that "must be respected"? When are you decietful sons of belial going to start respecting the names of your other "prophets" too?

ussyman:

Let's the poor woman face the wrath of the law JARE!, afterall Sudan is not Nigeria.

The same thing happened to a poor teacher in Gombe! Anywhere the slaves of allah are there death, destruction follows.

olabowale:

@Davidylan: I am very shocked at your narrow of understanding truth. But I
will excuse you, of displaying clear ignorance. You may be blinded by rage in
effort to win at all cause, all is fair in way. That is your slogan; But here, from
what the Mufti stated, we see that he was talking about his people's plight
under some form of abuse by the Jews and their monies, even at that time.

Alhaji, you are nothing but a dishonorable hypocrite and a liar. What kind of "abuse" were the arabs going throuhg under the jews AS AT 1940?
The jews didnt have a nation, had no army and 6 million of them were passing through gas chambers in the hands of Nazi Germany and you sit there spinning unspeakable lies against them?

What "plight" was the grandmufti speaking against?

The rest of your dishonest piffle i wont even bother to look at.

olabowale:

Did you know that the plkace was known as Palestine even before the Children of Israel were
emancipated by Allah from Egypt, through the leadership of Moses? Have you ever heard
of the people called philistines? Where was there homeland, before the Children of Israel
conquered Jerusalem, Jericho, etc?

This man, your lies are a reproach and testimony against you. The land of Isreal was known as palestine as far back as 4000 years ago?? 
I fully accept that the Isrealites destroyed several nations to get to the promised land but the Philistines were certainly NONE of them as they were still at war with Isreal well beyond the reign of King Solomon! NO WHERE did the philistines indicate that the land of Isreal was theirs.

Do you have ANY shred of proof to back your LIE in highlights?

The name "Palaestina" is Greek in origin . . . can you proof to us that Greeks were in existence around 4000yrs ago?
The name was first applied to Isreal around 70 AD.

Sir, i have never met a worse liar than you.

olabowale:

The affairs of world Islam, is alway sent to Makka and Madina, and not Jerusalem, duuh!

how does this answer the question? Why is Jerusalem NOT MENTIONED ONCE in the quran or hadith while muslims regal us with fairy tales about it being the third holiest site in islam?

@Davidylan: Look man. I love you and even thou and no christian, I did this for you man.
SO I WENT TO BIBLE.COM to help you learn your religion; You, ' !'

Genesis 21:32 (Whole Chapter)
After the treaty had been made at Beersheba, Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces returned to the land of the Philistines.

Genesis 21:34 (Whole Chapter)
And Abraham stayed in the land of the Philistines for a long time.

Actually, did you see what Senator Charles Grassey is doing with the Televangelist? It was on
CNN, yesterday.

Olabowale, you are still going round endlessly in circles!

Yes abraham stayed in the land of the phillistines at some point and WHAT DOES THAT PROVE?

Did you read 1 Samuel 17? By the time you get to the book of Joshua the Jews were pretty much settled in modern day Isreal today . . . DID THEY DRIVE OUT THE PHILISTINES IN THE PROCESS? NO! because when you get to the book of Judges . . . Samson went DOWN to the land of the philistines from Isreal . . . concrete proof that WHAT was the land of the philistines then was DISTINCT from the land of Isreal.

Stop reasoning backward.

@Davidylan

Just to remind you that u r in forum. Please do not abuse others. Just set the record streat. Can you see that.

ussyman:

@Davidylan

Just to remind you that you're in forum. Please do not abuse others. Just set the record streat. Can you see that.

Sorry ussy, i did not insult you. Just to set the record straight however . . . let me remind you that you're in public space . . . honesty is a MUST.

@Davidylan: To proof me wrong David, go to your Bible. Then read up on Genesis. Oh
thats Old Testament, which is for the Jews. The many prophets of the Jews in the Old
testament, never at anytime, preached of a son or Man-God combination and never
the three in One deal. No wonder you did not know that Abraham lived for the most
part in Jerusalem. And Jerusalem was in the land of the Philistines.

Jacob was the grandson of Abraham. Yet Jacob was the Patriarch of the Children of
Israel. The Jew, as a tribe came out of the children of Israel, through Judah, a first
generation, Children of Israel. David I could lecture about the Jews, but thats not
the issue here. You see in every people, we have good and bad. I have lost many
business opportunities for just being known as a Nigerian.

Yet, the evil doers among the Nigerians, worldwide is not more than 2 million people.
We are at least 160 million people. 2 out of 160, is a very less than 2%. Yet the remaining 98% suffer.

It is very easy for you to blind yourself with the drunkenness of religion!

olabowale:

@Davidylan: To proof me wrong David, go to your Bible. Then read up on Genesis. Oh
thats Old Testament, which is for the Jews. The many prophets of the Jews in the Old
testament, never at anytime, preached of a son or Man-God combination and never
the three in One deal.

i just want to throw up anytime i see this piffle about "God is one God" nonsense. Christians believe in ONE GOD!
Its a pity you don't understand how He works because you assume that your human mental capacity shld be good enough to think for Him. Sorry . . . stick to looking for the "prophets" from the lineage of ishmael in your quran and stop playing these games.

olabowale:

No wonder you did not know that Abraham lived for the most
part in Jerusalem. And Jerusalem was in the land of the Philistines.

1. Show me just ONE proof that abraham lived in Jerusalem and PLS NOT from the bible. Use the quran afterall you people make noise that he was your prophet and the bible is corrupt!

2. Awww Lord! Jerusalem was in the land of the philistines? How stupid! Solomon built his temple in Jerusalem . . . if it were in the land of the philistines were they asleep when the temple was being built?

3. were the philistines arab?

olabowale:

Jacob was the grandson of Abraham. Yet Jacob was the Patriarch of the Children of
Israel. The Jew, as a tribe came out of the children of Israel, through Judah, a first
generation, Children of Israel.

your dishonesty is a huge turn off! Joshua was a jew of the tribe of Ephraim! The priests were jews from the tribe of Levi.
Saul was the first king of the Jews, he was of the tribe of Benjamin!

Sir stick to the ishmaelites!

olabowale:

David I could lecture about the Jews, but thats not
the issue here.

no u shldnt lecture me about the jews . . . why are you so interested in them? didnt allah curse them? didnt mohammed tell you to wipe them out on his dying bed? Stick to the ishmaelites . . . perhaps allah may have raised for u some prophets from among them.

You sir are drunken with the wine of deceit.

@olabowale

Olabowale, leave that davidylan alone. You too seemed not know his anteccedent .Let me remind you what somebody said about that davidylan: It sounds true:Abi


Quote from: RichyBlacK on November 17, 2007, 01:51 AM

Very true!

davidylan sees the world through the double-prism of the Holocaust and the Arab-Israeli wars.
davidylan does not believe anything good can come from Islam.
davidylan hates all Muslims.
davidylan sees all Muslims as suicide bombers.
davidylan needs help!

I doubt if he could persuade any folk with the way he write. It's just unfortunate. He is well known.

Please find a reasonable christian friend to discuss with.

The religion of "peace" indeed. I am not going to say ma mind on this issue because this shit as been going down for a long time, Let me just  walk away before it gets  ugly up in here, Just don't understand how these i[b]islamofascious [/b] folks act all in the name of religion, lord have mercy

MP007:

The religion of "peace" indeed. I am not going to say ma mind on this issue because this shit as been going down for a long time, Let me just walk away before it gets ugly up in here, Just don't understand how some people act all in the name of religion, lord have mercy

Say your mind and you'll be labelled a Christian terrorist and a hater of Islam.
I know all Muslims are not violent but has somebody ever bothered to ask why the violence related to religion always seems to come from their end?
Why are they so short fused like a pitbull in the hands of Michael vicks?

mr. olabowale

I want to ask you a question.

Is it true that the QURAN has instructions that its faithfuls should kill the infidels (especially Jews)?

If you meet an 'infidel' or 'Jew' will you kill him?

If you were the leader of a country would you for example Put a woman who has been gang-raped in jail
or put a school teacher 'empowering' little children make decisions and choices in jail.

mr. olabowale

I want to ask you a question.

Is it true that the QURAN has instructions that its faithfuls should kill the infidels (especially Jews)?

If you meet an 'infidel' or 'Jew' will you kill him?

If you were the leader of a country would you for example Put a woman who has been gang-raped in jail
or put a school teacher 'empowering' little children make decisions and choices in jail.

@klarry79

Islam does not enjoin people to comit suicide because of it or anything.
You can check this link on what i said on suicide bombings.
Shite or iraqi laws are different from sharia,
And it is a fact that these suicide bombers take their clues from the Japanese and not from the Quran.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=84252.msg1727285#msg1727285

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=10471.msg1727224#msg1727224


if you might take time to visit the links

olabowale will kill anyone who names his slippers or dog, or cat moh'd, its sicks me to the stomach reading his posts, the guy don enrol with al-queda. he has lost his mind. If one can be so blind to see that islam is a religion of war then he has issues. I have asked him already, name 1 islamic country that it is at peace? answer=zero,

back to the poor woman, I mean lets reason like normal people. is it normal to jail and lash a woman (teacher) for allowing a kid name a bear after himself? For Christ sake, this must be a bad dream, I beg free the woman.

In Saudi, a woman who was raped was also sentenced. How far will moh'd and his followers go? islam is doomed for sure.

Olabowale, pls give your life to Christ before it is too late.

@olabowale.

@FBS; Mdsocks' disagreement with me, should tell you that we in Islam are not the drone
that you making us to be. We are individuals. With different temperaments. Unlike the others,
who could be best described by Fela's old time record titled, 'follow follow.' Had enough?

, ol'boy, you must have really lost your mind. That thread was not posted by me but

@lafile: Kai Alhaji Olabowale. You've said so many silly things on the forum, but this one takes the cake. Ha! Even Madsocks no support You.

olabowale will kill anyone who names his slippers or dog, or cat moh'd, its sicks me to the stomach reading his posts, the guy don enrol with al-queda. he has lost his mind. If one can be so blind to see that islam is a religion of war then he has issues. I have asked him already, name 1 islamic country that it is at peace? answer=zero,

FBS thats your opinion and not what the religion says

In Saudi, a woman who was raped was also sentenced. How far will moh'd and his followers go? islam is doomed for sure.

Did you do a follow up on that, The woman contravened Suaid lawas of not mingling with Men unknown to her. That's their law and you must obey it.
Those who raped her are also being searched for to be investigated. Try and read all the news and not just the highlight dude

FBS thats your opinion and not what the religion says

mdsucks or wetin be your nik, man you really suck,
going back to your religion, you just missed it. That is what your religion says. Islam is another word for war and hatred.

As for the Saudi woman, just what did she do, ?, that she met up with a man? is that a crime ?, so you do not have the liberty to move around? My goodness, she has already been punished. She was gang raped, do you know how that feels?

read up, "The 19-year-old woman was initially sentenced to 90 lashes for meeting with the man -- described by her attorney as a former friend from whom she was retrieving a photograph.

The seven attackers, who abducted the pair and raped her, received sentences ranging from 10 months to five years in jail.

When the woman appealed her sentence, a Saudi court more than doubled it. The Qatif General Court also increased the sentence for the rapists, to two to nine years in prison.

The case has drawn international attention, provoked outrage in the West and cast light on the treatment of women under Saudi Arabia's strict Islamic law"

FBS

you really got it wrong again

read up, "The 19-year-old woman was initially sentenced to 90 lashes for meeting with the man -- described by her attorney as a former friend from whom she was retrieving a photograph.

I asked you the first time, Have you read the latest thing about it.

The woman confessed that she was not there to collect photograph but to meet the man and did you know that the man was lashed also.

That's their own law, lets come over to what you said about islam
All the verses your compatriots have posted that they suggest means terror have been well explained in the links i posted. It will do great good if you try to verify first b4 coming to post here.


If you might not have visited the link, this is it again

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=84252.msg1727285#msg1727285

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=10471.msg1727224#msg1727224

mdsucks or wetin be your nik, man you really suck,

Thanks FBS. I take that as a compliment

Olanajim where are u brother? will like to hear yr view plssssssssssssss

@md

Thanks FBS. I take that as a compliment

great, I like to dish out compliments.

back to your religion, you have not posted or said anything new. Why punish a raped woman? she already carries a lifetime punished by been ganged raped whether she was retrieving a picture or not. Any rapist should be punished, lashed and jailed.

I ask you again, do you know what it is to be raped, have you a sister?

when will you see that islam a religion of war?

FBS:


I ask you again, do you know what it is to be raped, have you a sister?

No need asking , I got sisters, all nland gals are my sisters and would never allow any fool to rape any of them. Get that right. Saudi Arabians are people with their culture and laws.
What you people always think is that Islam is a religion of the Arabs and middle easterns.

The Holy Quran says

*{Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;}*(Al-Fatihah 1:2)

He never defines himself as the God of all Arabs or even the God of all Muslims only, but He is God of all things, including all mankind:


You belive any thing done by a middle eastern s due to what the Quran says.

when will you see that islam a religion of war?

You don't need to tell me that, Don't be a weakling.
All the posts you have made on this as been explained,but your for reasons best known to you ,you don't seem to understand it.

would never allow any fool to rape any of them

, did you pen this post? I can't believe it, who will ask for your permission before rapping ya sis? man, you are very funny!

The Holy Quran says

, what is holy about it?

FSU
i can see what you are here to do,

did you pen this post? I can't believe it, who will ask for your permission before rapping ya sis? man, you are very funny!

It's sad how people will not read and understand a post wilth logical reasoning before posting.

No need breaking it down for you, If you can't understand that then i plead with you go back to Primary 1

, what is holy about it?

Why only quote that, explain what it means or counter it,
I know you are here to chase personality, and unfortunately for you am not game

It's good you stick to the topic of the thread boy.

@muslims in the house,
When the nazis first started the massacre of the jews, a number of Germans said they did not support it. But they did nothing, In the end millions of jews were slaughtered. Its not enough to come on the forum and bleat about how Islam is a religion of peace. Get off your backsides and do something about it.

I have quietly gone through the various opinions on the thread about this issue, the summary is that,``opinion is an asshole and everyone has got it``, I try to be tolerant, but this islamic hunchos just walk my nerves` edge with their excesses.People have said and done worst things against Christians,yet we do not exhibit this level of lunacy, that is if we do at all.What do you Expect from a religion that teaches pre-teens `jihad`, right from elementary school.I used used to think their actions were borne out of illiteracy,but the prime advocates of this ignoble behaviour in the name of extremism are actually the Learned Scholars:so called.When  the rest of the world is thinking of improving Technology, with new innovations, these Fanatics are busy looking for who`s head to chop off.If not tell me why is the majority of the Arab world so wretched.
Let them Flog that lady and see if muslims will not be harrassed in the UK and other parts of the non-muslim world.
LET THIS NONSENSE STOP!!!!