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After 100 days of photo-ops in office...
Tinubu’s lads are desperately scrambling for “records”!

Anyway, I honestly pray dude comes correct...
We cannot afford a Dundee in the Centre of Excellence.

Eko Oni Baje!
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Owambe Governor...
Nothing to tear down today? SMH
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DUMB PEOPLE!

While I understand the anger, the crude mob reaction is seriously DUMB! Exactly how does attacking INNOCENT South African businesses (or even people) make you any better than the barbaric South African idiots and murderers or resolve the issue of the safety of our citizens abroad? In fact, if anything, it merely increases the vulnerability of our citizens in South Africa!

Meanwhile, if these South African investors/businesses pack up and leave tomorrow, it will be TEN OF THOUSANDS OF FELLOW NIGERIANS (from employees to suppliers and service providers) who will be jobless and the larger society that will suffer the immediate economic consequences. SMH
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GoTV:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i condemn the actions of miscreants parading themselves as nationalist to rob shoprite and it's evirons. We Yoruba Christians should be careful with our involvement in this because the majority of Nigerians in south Africa doing drugs and other illegality are from the south east yet the igbos are not looting nor causing problems in their region. If the igbos could ignore the revolution now protest in lagos tagging it a yoruba protest while mocking sowore's predicaments, why should we now destabilize Yoruba land because of IPOBs dying in south Africa? Yoruba Ronu o

A self-professed Christian fanning the flames of ethnic demagoguery...
Where exactly were you supposedly “born again”? In Nazi Germany?! SMDH
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emzreus:
It's sad and shows the state of the country. People saw an opportunity to steal and grabbed it with both hands.

Actually, it shows more about the state of the PEOPLE...
Even in wealthy US and UK, a certain segment loots at any opportunity. SMH
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FamousMonk:
About Xenophobia...
Let's quit the hypocrisy.
It is appalling..
Truth is,a typical Nigerian man doesn't care about what happened to some Nigerians in South Africa.
We are just trying to follow the trend and appear like good patriotic citizens who love each other..
Forget the posts and hate speech on twitter ,Facebook etc..
It is just for social media attention..
I repeat,as long as the killing of Nigerians do not affect the price of garri,a typical Nigerian doesn't care...
I woke up and decided to write about it too..
But I'm so sorry i cannot pretend to care when I really don't..
After the whole fracas,Nigerians will go back to their usual daily routine.
If I'm killed today,I will be buried and nobody will care.
We will post about it,empathize with the families of the victims,make it seem like we love and care about these people,but in reality,we don't ..
For me,I don't know them,and they haven't helped me in any way before so I swear,I do not care..
This is the bitter truth..
There is something fundamentally wrong with an African man's brain and way of reasoning..

This is such embarrassingly shallow thinking and worldview...
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ZOO!
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Venerable612:
Brother stop all these grammar.

There is no proving anything BRD with arrest. You lots don’t know the slightest about how Law and order works, but will come here throwing tantrums when you are being educated.

When you crossdressing, Police just arrest people and that’s all. They don’t owe you any explaination. You just have to explain why they shouldn’t charge you to court for crossdressing. And as far as Nigeria is concerned, you can’t even prove sexual orientation Cos that is not recognised under Nigerian laws. You are either a male or a female - if you dress otherwise, YOU CAN GET ARRESTED AND CHARGED TO COURT.

Don’t come here to apply your ignorance.

thesicilian:
No one owes anybody any explanation of their sexuality. Otherwise the police would have the authority to stop anyone on the road and demand you to prove that you are not homosexual. Yes we know that Nigeria has anti gay laws and I fully support it, but cross-dressing is not the same as being gay, legally speaking. The police has no right, no authority to arrest or publicly embarrass any citizen simply on the suspicion of being gay.

With all due respect, I don’t bother to belabor discourse with those who hear but don’t listen...

Your Strawman’s Argument (that Crossdressers can be arrested) might seem clever to you but is IRRELEVANT to the actual point under discussion (yet again highlighted and even underlined for your edification). The point was NEVER that Crossdressers may not be subjected to questioning, but rather that the Police cannot simply go around picking up random folks (not Crossdressers) and compelling them to prove their sexual orientation.

Granted the author painted an extreme scenario but that was exactly the point - and frankly it does not require a law degree to comprehend such basic Plain English. SMH
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plaindealer:
You mean it took 4 years to complete what was almost completed in 2015?

This is Fashola inspecting Ayinke House in 2015, almost completed, but Ambode neglected and abandoned the project for almost 4 years and it's even still uncompleted when he commissioned the project, just like all the projects he rushed to commission, they were all uncompleted.

How long has it taken a Buhari to complete the National Library in Abuja? How about the Lekki Airport, seaport and even the Free Trade Zone launched by Tinubu in 1999? How long did it take Fashola to complete the mere expansion of the Lekki Expressway that Jakande built or even any of the 4 lots of the Badagry Expressway?

Ambode was NOT the Commissioner of Health and the expansion and upgrade of Ayinke House was not only thing he had to do as Governor of Lagos State, but he still completed it and properly equipped it while building a Critical Care Unit At LASUTH (headed by a professor that he recruited Howard University in Washington DC), as well as completed, renovated and equipped general hospitals and primary healthcare centers across the LCDAs. If all Ambode had to do was slap a coat of paint Over Ayinke House it certainly wouldn’t take 100 days!

#BourdillionBullionvanBrigadeBS#
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The BS of the #BourdillionBullionVanBrigade is just laughable...

Gov Sanwo-Olu has not yet funded a budget, and has only just recently gotten around to constituting a cabinet, so how was this hospital procured and equipped (other than by Ambode)? Government and governance is a continuum, but it is understandable that folks burdened with guilty consciences keep desperately trying to assuage their conscience.

Fashola started building General Hospitals, and Ambode completed the uncompleted ones (including the BIGGEST Mother and Child Hospital, Ayinke House) while introducing the concept of a mother and child care hospital in every LGA. Tinubu's lads have to do much better than just throwing a coat of paint on an existing building and "commissioning" it.

Gov Jide, abegi it's over ONE HUNDRED DAYS already!
Time to get started with ACTION rather than just speechifying and photo-ops!
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Venerable612:
That’s fine, let me educate you.

Now these are restatements of the sections I referred:

Section 231 Criminal code
Any person who-
a. wilfully and without lawful excuse does any indecent act in any public place; or

b. wilfully does any indecent act in any place with intent to insult or offend any person;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.

And

Section 4 Police Act. General duties of the police
The police shall be employed for the
a. prevention and detection of crime,
b. the apprehen- sion of offenders,
c. the preservation of law and order,
d. the protection of life and property and
e. the due enforcement of all laws and regulations with which they are directly charged, and
f. shall perform such military duties within or outside Nigeria as may be required of them by, or under the authority of this or any other Act.
[1979 No. 23.]

Now, I don’t know if you are a lawyer or a law student Buh there are what we call rules to interpreting statutes. One of such is what we call Omnibus grounds and General Powers.

We call them omnibus, because almost anything can fit into it. An example of an omnibus provision is Indecent as used in 231 above, and enforcement of Law and Order as used in S. r above.

For 231 - anyone can be accosted, detained, arrested if he commits any indecent act in public, such as gayish acts or untoward dressing (crossdressing). If you don’t know, 3 cross dressers have been arrested and convicted in the court in Nigeria for Crossdressing, not too long ago, I can remember one in 2008: search the story, it’s on BBC. So yes, indecent act covers homosexuality behaviours and crossdressing.

Section 4 is the general powers of the police. The only restriction is that THEY HAVE TO BE CHARHGED by an authority, on complaint by a citizen, or with reasonable excuse- which itself is a wild card. That’s why the Police can do many things in Nigeria and get away with it. The Police has powers to arrest and detain anyone on suspicion of any unlawful act... with or without warrant, depending on the type of offence.

I have said too much already... I leave you with 218.

Section 218.
Any male person who, whether in public or private, commits any act of gross indecency with another male person, or procures another male person to commit any act of gross indecency with him, or attempts to procure the commission of any such act by any male person with himself or with another male person, whether in public or private, is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for three years.
The offender cannot be arrested without warrant.

thesicilian:
No one owes anybody any explanation of their sexuality. Otherwise the police would have the authority to stop anyone on the road and demand you to prove that you are not homosexual. Yes we know that Nigeria has anti gay laws and I fully support it, but cross-dressing is not the same as being gay, legally speaking. The police has no right, no authority to arrest or publicly embarrass any citizen simply on the suspicion of being gay.

I have taken the liberty to repost the original post (highlighted as relevant) that we were commenting upon to spare all of us the substantively irrelevant discourse and dissertation. Of course, the police can arrest/apprehend/question anyone reasonable suspected to have commited (or to be committing) a criminal act. What they cannot do (and NO RATIONAL reading of the Police Act or the Criminal Code even remotely suggests it) is to randomly stop random persons on the street and require them to prove their sexual orientation (and let's not even get into the basic concept that the burden actually rests with state to prove a criminal offense beyond a reasonable doubt, and not vice versa).

With all due respect, there's a distinction between the possession of knowledge and the proper APPLICATION of same. The dissertation was entirely IRRELEVANT to the limited discourse at hand. Cheers.
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The near non-existence of women at this meeting is telling...
Apart from a handful at the back of the room who look like assistants. SMH
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That looks like a 1-car accident...
Which usually indicates over-speeding or drunk driving.

Glad he survived the accident...
But if it is, he shouldn’t drag ‘God’ into his irresponsibility
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IYANGBALI:
Is it a seen to be a widow? Are widows not human beans?mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Abegi where do you see “seen”?

That widows are human does not mean anyone wants to become one...
Even “church” folks who are forming heaven 24/7 do not want to die (circa Bob Marley).
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tosinhtml:
Nigeria is a highly religious country, its either you accept or move out.

Most Northern African countries are also religious and they are developing fine.

Most Oil Arab countries are also religious and their economy keeps thriving.

You are free to Relocate to the Western countries, no one is stopping you.

Because oil money, not because of religion...

Ironically, the most HEDONISTIC Arab state Dubai (permits alcohol consumption and has near-naked female bodies littering its beaches) is also the most DEVELOPED (economically, technologically and socially).
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tosinhtml:
Nigeria is a highly religious country, its either you accept or move out.

Most Northern African countries are also religious and they are developing fine.

Most Oil Arab countries are also religious and their economy keeps thriving.

You are free to Relocate to the Western countries, no one is stopping you.

You mean a HYPOCRITICALLY “religious” society?

A truly religious society would not be so fantastically corrupt and neither would so many of its ordinary citizens earn a DESERVED reputation across the world in prostitution, drugs, fraud, identity theft, etc.

Meanwhile, quite telling that when most of your supposedly “religious” are holding prayer warrior sessions for emigration visas and are drowning in the Mediterranean, they are not trying to rush off to supposedly “religious” Arab nations but to Western countries.
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Venerable612:
They actually do,

Combined reading of section 4 Police Act and section 231 Criminal Code Act/Laws etc.

Nope, they do NOT...

Nothing about Section 4 of the Police Act (General Duties) or Section 231 of the Criminal Code (Indecent Acts) could be conceivably read or interpreted to provide the Police with any authority of power to stop a citizen on the streets and require him to prove her/his sexuality.
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Angrymode:
Well, let him simply carry his cross dressing and his ogas at d top that knows d shape of his anus and go. We no do again

Freedom to practice rubbish is not allowed here in 9ja

Thank you Bros!
Only the freedom to steal, rob, embezzle, and kill others is allowed.
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Odokwogodwin:
What Bobrisky owes the FG and Nigerians is to affirm or debunk the allegations of his gay sexuality. If he refutes, then he should be discharged and acquitted, but if he corroborates, he should be made to face the law.

He doesn’t owe you ANYTHING!
Instead if snooping around adults’ bedrooms, you should be facing your own life. SMH
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Don’t care...
Go and develop and occupy “strategic professions” in your own (biological) country!
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Not surprised one bit...
The HYPOCRISY of many “churchy” Nigerians is mortifying!
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TechCapon:
When I saw the title "miss teen united nations" I was thinking it would be a great platform for young talented girls to show their intelligence and talents only for me to see the participants posing Nak.Ed. I wonder which direction we're heading to as youths in this country and by the way, who ever edited these photos did a bad job.. It's so obvious the pics are heavily buried in filters

When I saw the pictures in the first post, I thought this would be a different kind of contest...
Nonetheless, please do not presume that physical beauty and intelligence are mutually-exclusive.
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freemanbubble:
Young stars

They are young
But down there they are not

If them catch you one on one
Bros ehnnn them fit use reverse cowgirl finish you

I often ponder what lies beneath this sort of crude (Nigerian) misogyny...
Is it ignorance that you were born by a (once) young woman or no hope being able to have a daughter?
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Congrats!
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Ndipe:
And he wanted to run for Presidency while portraying himself as a clean cut new breed politician. Shame.

Nigerians should quit 'criminalizing' basic civil matters...
Even Donald Trump defaulted on his loans and had to file for bankruptcy protection 5 or 6 times.
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F117nighthawk:
Criminal na now he know, u collect money and no pay back, now that they impound your property u now want to settle out of court, yeye people

TUANKU:
This is the man who wanted to be president, a financial criminal wanted to take over from a terrorist.

There's NOTHING "criminal" about taking loan secured with a collateral and forfeiting the collateral if you default on the loan...
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Nukilia:
Another set of people were trooping in as at yesterday with their motorcycles.. . I think we have a huge crisis in our hands. This is gradually spilling down South... The Northern governors have failed their people

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10154377_img20190902215332961_jpeg4e4457fdee9503d89c424bccada96d60

Next Level Tings...
Buhari Voters on their way to 'thank' Tinubu.
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Asour:
Thanks. We agree to disagree then.

No problem. Enjoy the rest of your day...
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Asour:
Thanks for responding. Again, As humans we have to be nuanced in our view points.

Most things are NOT always good. If Transparency is ALWAYS good why does the government operate a cladestine service called the DSS (changing the name from, well, secret)?

If Transparency is ALWAYS good why then does the government label some meetings as "closed door" meetings?

I am not a lawyer but even I know that a judge may decide to
Impose some level of privacy to certain case proceedings. (Determining few/who would be allowed).


Transparency is perfectly suited to issues of Public accountability & administration.

Where human dignity and public peace stands to be eroded, Transparency considerations should be nuanced.

You don't lose anything by investigating a matter before come to make public statements. You may say public assurances. Well. Any Nigerian who is rest assured of Lagos' safety JUST because of this "catch" would be totally gullible.

You mean "public statements" like they stopped/questioned them...
And determined they are Northern Nigerians looking for a better life?!

First, a Secret Service is NOT necessarily a good thing or a legitimate tool of governance, whether it is the so-called DSS that recently invaded the National Assembly where the ELECTED representatives of the Nigerian people conduct business or Hitler's Gestapo or Sadam's Mukhabarat or East Germany's Stasi or the Soviet's KGB. Not least because many governments (unfortunately including Nigeria's) often mistake their own narrow interests with "national interest", which of course is NOT synonymous.

Nonetheless, with all due respect, you appear to misunderstand the concept of TRANSPARENCY - which is predicated upon the PROCESS rather than the outcome. Accordingly, even if you do not agree with the substance of the Police's conduct in this case, it is nevertheless even more important that the process was PUBLIC (and relatively transparent), so that even people like you who substantively disagree with the Police know enough about what transpired and are thus in a better position to criticize.
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madenigga:
the funny thing here is that African leaders were supposed to hold a meeting in south Africa on the 4th and this is happening .

Wetin south Africa want tell them.

This is the right time for Ghana to take its place as the real Giant of Africa since Nigeria and South Africa have proven that they are both unserious.

Start wooing investors into Ghana since Ghana has proven to be a reliable partner

Probably same thing they told the Lifeless One a few days ago in Japan...smh

https://sunnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/South-Africa-2.jpg
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madenigga:
Nigerians drove Ghanians from there country in the 70's they went back built a good country 40years later every Nigerian wants to go to Ghana, our own South Africa is driving us out, and we are ranting.

Cant we build a better country?

My only prayer is that they target those businesses owned by Nigerian politicians, this ediot Ohakim former Imo state governor stole millions of imo state money took it to south Africa to build a world class hotel, i wish say hand go touch the hotel

It wasn't the 1970s, but the 1980s...
Meanwhile Ghanaians drove Nigerians out of Ghana in the 1960s.
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