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fred04:
Is it free??, will the fare subsidised?.
The news didn't mention free ride.
So what are we celebrating

Low standards and expectations…
Some Nigerians are thrilled with whatever crumbs fall from the table of their slavers.
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Melezenawii:
https://twitter.com/Pampyboy/status/1683045509223575553

Melezenawii:
Imagine every LG, State is alive to her responsibility

libertyfather:
same has to be apply by the state and federal government...this are the people that sense the solution not 8k useless modafuka, if all lcda can come up with this couple with state own join with federal own what are we talking about? solution is 100/100

Only in Nigeria will the chairman of a local council buy buses and “donate” to the council and we praise them for supposedly being “alive to their responsibility”. In the civilized nations that we copied the concept of local government from, municipal councils pick up garbage, fund primary schools and teachers, handle general waste management, parks, social housing, public works, etc. In Nigeria, they collect and share money, buy cars and occasionally a chairman or councilor will “donate” buses or toilets and get praised for it.

Anyway, I don’t blame Nigerians with their low expectations…
Sadly, so many Nigerians have become used to being treated as subjects and serfs rather than as citizens. SMH
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orohbiro:
DID YOU KNOW❓

Quinn, has become the first out transgender player to play at a FIFA World Cup. He featured for Canada against Nigeria 🇳🇬.

Last we checked there are only two genders male and female!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12328795/Canadian-footballer-Quinn-trans-non-binary-player-feature-World-Cup.html

Who cares about your primitive “check”?!

My own issue with this Quinn character is that ‘they’ nearly broke Asisat Oshoala’s leg in the game! Mogbe o!
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flokii:
Leave plenty talk.. tell your Governor to wise up and embrace Yoruba identity. It's time to drop the woke city nonsense.
Some unfortunate ones are hell bent on turning Lagos upside down to score cheap political points. It's time to guard everything concerning Lagos jealously from outsiders. Give Yorubas and other indigenes all the positions up till cleaner and watch the madness die natural death.

Remember the Igbo lawmaker that erected billboard warning likes of Phyno and Flavour to stay off her state and go protest in their state of origin?.. That's is the kind of treatment outsiders should be getting in Lagos.

Will this be before or after Lagos has repaid the revenue that was largely sourced from the economic and environmental GENOCIDE of my Niger Delta to build the likes of Third Mainland Bridge, Eko Bridge, Tin Can Island Port, Festac Town, Badagry Expressway, Apapa-Oworonsoki Expressway, National Stadium, National Theatre, Tafawa Balewa Square, the dredging of Outer Marina, etc.? etc?! SMDH
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Taylor90:
Nigeria government is very stupid

Electricity that your citizens doesn’t have enough and you’re doing big brother Nigeria

But will Nigerian citizens pay $18.29m for the same electricity?!
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ibechris:
Having many children in a bad economy can lead to various consequences, including:

1. Financial strain: A bad economy often implies limited job opportunities, lower wages, and increased unemployment rates. Raising a large family in such circumstances can impose a significant financial burden on parents, as they struggle to meet basic needs like food, clothing, education, healthcare, and housing for every child.

2. Limited resources: With a bad economy, resources become scarce, and families with many children may struggle to provide adequate resources for each child. This can result in compromises on education, healthcare, and extracurricular activities, affecting the overall development and opportunities available to the children.

3. Increased poverty: Raising many children in a bad economy can push families into poverty or exacerbate their existing poverty. Poverty affects the quality of life of both parents and children, leading to inadequate nutrition, lack of access to healthcare, housing instability, and limited opportunities for upward social mobility.

4. Limited future prospects: In a bad economy, parents may struggle to save money for their children's future needs, such as college expenses or starting a career. This can limit the opportunities available to the children and hinder their ability to break out of the cycle of poverty in the long term.

5. Education challenges: A bad economy often impacts the education sector, leading to budget cuts, reduced resources, and overcrowded classrooms. Children from large families may face difficulties in accessing quality education due to limited financial and academic support, potentially affecting their future prospects.

6. Strained emotional well-being: Financial stress and the inability to provide for all children's needs can lead to increased parental stress and tensions within the family. Children may also experience higher stress levels due to the lack of resources, witnessing their parents' struggles, or feeling neglected or overlooked.

7. Limited parental time and attention: Raising many children demands substantial time and attention from parents. In a bad economy, where parents may need to dedicate more time to work or multiple jobs to make ends meet, the ability to provide individual attention, support, and guidance to every child may be compromised.

It's important to note that these consequences can vary depending on factors such as the specific economic conditions, the social support available, and the resilience and adaptability of both parents and children.

The POOREST Nigerians seem to have the most kids…

Our former maiguard had over 20 kids - and counting!
When in this 21st century, no adult can rationally claim ignorance of condoms (or even the “pull out” method)! SMH
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emonkey:
You are so naive .
"what has the govt done with the 10%" - did you pay ? 99% of Nigerians not on PAYE tax will never pay.
"over there healthcare is free" - In which country specifically. It is all paid from your tax in UK. In US I paid 40% tax and must still pay separately for my health insurance.
"their security is intact." - true, but it never stops hundreds of people from being shot every day.
.infact their govt will pay you salary if you're unemployed - there is nothing automatic about this. It is all conditional.

The argument here is that Nigerians no more know the purpose and value of education because it is cheap. In the US it is common to find students working part time to be able to be able to pay for their university education. Nigerians want it all easy on a platter of gold. That is why most Nigerian companies will rather hire a student who studied abroad than the best of those that studied in Nigeria. Because the other knows how to work to achieve a desired purpose...at any cost.

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BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU…
The Culture of Entitlement cultivated by the average Nigerian is astonishing! SMH
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Throwback:
OK.

We know things are cheap here.

Truth is we have become used to paying next to nothing for everything.

From house maids and other domestic servants, to fees we pay artisans doing plumbing or carpentary work etc.

We should improve the standard of our education, so that Nigerians who are ready to pay thousands of dollars abroad can come back to pay similar amount within the Nigerian education system.

The only thing I would plead for is that firstly, loans should be available for those who want a university education but cannot afford it. And I believe that has already been signed into law.

Secondly, their should be enough local scholarships to aid very brilliant students who cannot afford it. All the Nigerian entities should stop all foreign scholarships and focus on local scholarships within the soon to be costly tertiary education in Nigeria.

Enough of cheap but worthless education.

Enough of subsidizing education for Nigerians who want to go work abroad with colleagues who themselves are using their salary to repay loans they took to have an education.

We should stop subsidizing the work force of developed countries.

BLESS YOU on the highlighted…

Said the same myself here on NL and elsewhere on SM (and often got attacked for it)…
Nigeria cannot afford to use its scarce resources to subsidize an educated/skill work force for much wealthier nations.

The worse part of it is that when Nigerian beneficiaries of cheap (even free) education “japa”…
They will be wailing to their foreign colleagues, who have $250K to $1m in school loans, how Nigeria did “nothing” for them.
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helinues:
Don't you have any respect for elders?

sarrki:
No be person wey get elders for their clan go respect

Respect has to be EARNED!
A THIEF deserves NO respect, regardless of age!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQU9X6F2tHM
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sarrki:
Umar Ganduje knelt down to greet former President Muhammad Buhari

Gandollar the Stalker…
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Omenlon:
I like the way you are making yourself happy with your analysis. Next time you will be recommended for the position of the INEC chairman, congrats in advance.

That would be a DEMOTION…
Thus, “No thanks” in advance!
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SledgeHammerer:
My position has been consistent. Go back and check. You're saying based on INEC results abi? So where's his own results to dispute that of INEC? That's where the uzodinma case you mentioned is different.

You came third and want the disqualification of who came first. So how do you benefit from that decision if granted? When you don't have any figure before the court that suggest you got more votes than the person placed second.

See there's a reason obi abandoned his original stance of "I won the election". He knows he never won that election and there's no evidence to prove he did. Dem dey use una stay relevant. Lol 🤣🤣

Again, I am not litigating matters properly before the tribunal…
But if Tinubu is disqualified, the election would be re-run if none of the other candidates got the constitutional spread.

The reason for challenging a PROCESS (even instead of a result) is…
If the PROCESS is flawed, the “results” from such flawed process is rendered IRRELEVANT and an entirely new PROCESS ensures.
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tinsel:
https://www.thecable.ng/acourt-voids-order-on-e-transmission-of-election-results-in-lagos-says-lp-abused-court-process/amp

So many Nigerian judges are either corrupt or INCOMPETENT…

There’s a distinction between making rules and breaking rules…
Accordingly, that the law grants INEC discretion to set its own rules doesn’t mean that, once set, such rules can be ignored.

Even where INEC has discretion to “vary” its rules, such variation should be formalized just as the original rules…
An administrative agency cannot publish rules that are binding on everyone else and then “vary” such rules by breaking them

Rules and regulations enacted pursuant to statutes become part of the body of Administrative Law…
Accordingly, they can only be “varied” (ie, amended) in the SAME manner as enacted - by formal publication and distribution.
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solreb:
Don't mind replying to the Obidients again. Firstly, this was a case in USA which the prosecutors who had all the details of the matter didn't convict Tinubu and they have officially established that in 2003 through the response to IGP Tafa then. The USA forfeiture case was to allow govt take the money belonging to the drug criminal that he put in Tinubu's account. This is after they have established that Tinubu was innocent in the entire saga.

The US court did no such thing…

For starters, US courts do NOT establish the innocence of any party before them (which I am reasonably certain is the same with virtually all other common law jurisdictions). Rather, the courts are limited to ‘guilty’ or ‘not guilty’ determinations. And that it is NOT merely semantic, because a court may determine that a criminal defendant had not be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt without exonerating such defendant (eg, in hung jury trials), or while even proffering that such defendant would be guilty on a probability burden.

In this case, the US court most definitely did not find Tinubu (the only individual name appearing in the listed defendants) ‘not guilty’ because if it did then the said amount would not have been forfeited. Meanwhile, while related, this case and any other case against the actual drug peddlers are NOT dependent upon each other. A verdict in one criminal case dies not control the verdict in a disparate case.

My counsel to folks on this thread (which is largely an academic exercise) is to await the tribunal’s verdict.
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SledgeHammerer:
Go back and check the hope uzodinma case very well. You'll see that he came to the court with figures showing how he won the election and the supreme court agreed with his proof and declared him winner in line with the figures presented.

Where are the figures with which the court will declare obi winner?

But that’s NOT the point you argued…

Instead you argued that Obi came to court in third position, based on INEC results…
Thus I noted that similarly Uzodinma came to court in FOURTH position, based on INEC results.

I am not litigating the substance of the case properly before the tribunal…
But the SUBSTANTIVE point is that electoral position based on INEC results are IRRELEVANT.
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SledgeHammerer:
He's inconsistent. How more inconsistent can a man be? Claiming victory is totally different from saying your opponent is not qualified. Issues of non qualification are not same as having majority of lawful votes cast.

Both positions are NOT mutually exclusive and therefore are NOT inconsistent with each other..
Saying that you have more legal votes and saying that your opponent is not qualified can BOTH be true.
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SledgeHammerer:
Let's even assume the court disqualifies Tinubu, how does that make obi the winner? He came third and didn't show us with figures how he got more lawful votes than Atiku to benefit from that decision. Pure madness!

You guys should get ready to insult the Judges after judgement is delivered.

Btw, the current Imo State Governor came FOURTH in election results declared by INEC…
The most elementary basis for contesting election results by INEC is that such results are INCORRECT!
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SledgeHammerer:
Let's even assume the court disqualifies Tinubu, how does that make obi the winner? He came third and didn't show us with figures how he got more lawful votes than Atiku to benefit from that decision. Pure madness!

You guys should get ready to insult the Judges after judgement is delivered.

Since you say he first contested the results and is now contesting Tinubu’s qualification…
That makes BOTH of his arguments CONSISTENT, rather than inconsistent, with each other!
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Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

solreb:
The US prosecutors who tried the case and had all the facts already ruled that Tinubu did not commit a crime. That is what matters. And they opened a civil case for the forfeiture of the $460k which they already determined Tinubu has no hand in it as he was not among the actual criminals who traded in drugs and put that funds in Tinubu's account. All the acrobatics or conjectures by Obi's lawyers and any other interpretation on the matter by a third party is just an academic exercise. Moreover in 2003 President Obasanjo mandated the IGP Tafa Balogun to contact the USA online matter and they wrote back that Tinubu didn't commit a crime.

So many comments on this thread (unfortunately shaped by the OP’s question) miss the point of the LP lawyers noting that the US court order remains un-appealed. Noting that the order was never appealed is NOT an imputation of substantive guilt. Rather, it’s relevance is that where a valid order of a competent court has not been appealed and/or overturned, such an order (which, in this case, the lawyers rightly or wrongly argue is an “imposition of a fine”) remains valid and subsisting for the purposes of Section 137(1)(d).
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aswani:
So Obi's lawyers are no longer saying president Tinubu was convicted as per their petition, they are now talking about forfeiture. Effectively, we are now been told that he should be disqualified because he didn't appeal a forfeiture order.

True story from the US state of California . A hitman killed a serving police officer and somehow a police informant led the police to him.

The police case wasn't strong and in truth, though they wanted to nail him, they looked at the bigger picture. They did a deal with him whereby he was never convicted but he told them who hired him and served as a witness in court for the prosecution in the case against the officer that hired him who later got convicted.

No charges were brought against the hitman and he is still goes about his life without being treated as a felon though he has sworn on oath that he committed a murder.

Point is, like President Tinubu, the hitman might have been a naughty boy but he was never convicted of a crime to assume the status of a felon and can still vote (not sure if Cali is one of the states that barr convicted felons from voting sha).

On a side note, do Obi's lawyers even know the difference between a misdemeanor, felony or grand lacerny? If I pick up a parking fine in the US, would those bunch of jokers claim I can't contest as president?

It's a shame Obi didn't hire them pro bono, this case would have ended ages ago.

Tales by the Moonlight…
NOBODY who confesses to criminal homicide under oath in a court of law is let go without an immunity agreement.

So, are you positing that Tinubu had an immunity deal with the US Dept of Justice?!
If so, those are ALWAYS signed agreements, and relative easy documentation evidence to provide.
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Lotanna2:
A court in Nigeria qualifies section D. the sentence must be conviction or something equivalent involving fraud or dishonesty.it says death sentence or imprisonment or sentence of fine which means conviction because when you are convicted,you must be imprisoned or alternatively fined.there is no such thing against tinubu

It most certainly does NOT..

An elementary rule of legal interpretation is that the more things are specifically provided for or spelt out in a statute, the more it is assumed that those things not specifically so provided are excluded or otherwise NOT covered. Accordingly, while in Section D, the statute specifically provides that the extant death sentence must have been imposed by “any competent court or tribunal in Nigeria” but only provides that fines must be imposed by just “any competent court or tribunal” without including the qualifier “in Nigeria” signifies that there is NO geographical or national restrictions with respect to the latter.
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SledgeHammerer:
The argument is no longer obi won the election. It's now Tinubu is not qualified. Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 eye don dey clear

And how are BOTH mutually-exclusive?!
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LikeAking:
British doing our work for us.

But my question is : Why only Ibori out of all the evil looters we have in this country..

Something is fishy here..

Oga Ibori next time them try to exdradite you, don't go.

This is witch hunting..

The Brits must give a similar treatment to all our leaders..

Nonsense!

Did he have a choice?
He was enjoying his loot in Dubai when the Emiratis bundled him (Hushpuppi-style) to the UK authorities!
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jrusky:
British now desperate looking for cash anywhere nd everywhere after they put their economy into inflation due to their arrogant that weakened EU which is now taken a big chunk outta the UK lives.

This case had be settled and by the way what is ibori still keeping $130m outside the shore of Nigeria for? anyway what do I know obi hidding Anambra $30miion Pandora cash in South America and he is here claiming saint.my a s s.

Jahwinaboy:
Exactly my thoughts. Why single out Ibori? Something is truly fishy

Ibori PLEADED GUILTY to the STEALING charges in open court…
This proceeding was merely a follow-up to vomit proceeds of his ADMITTED theft.
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bennybuhari:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0faaRPWrnocvcgS63crQC8TnPDLqqNvUMP7KVaA27BGjEEXXESAc5eA4Gq4sAZY5Ul&id=100045979326747

As they say, ”Go to Court”…
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Kajaard:
Thank God I don't keep friends, neither do I go to clubs or beer parlours.

Absolute waste of time.

Dude, sounds like you have an even bigger issue…
Socialization is a key component of HUMAN existence!
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Fiscus105:
Hope know poison can also come through spiritual means? In as much we one needs to be vigilant, one should pray that satan should not catch him.

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iLoveYouToo:
It has to be a myth abeg. If true , it’s crazy

It’s tales by the moonlight…
Grist fed to a superstitious population.
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Slynation:
There are rules for drinking in public places...

Number one rule : make sure you empty your bottle and glass cup before going out to pee and always cover your glass cup with either your phone or the glass cover...!!

EWWWW! Do you realize how FILHTY cell phones are?!
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ibechris:
Pls, there is a growing menace of friends poisoning their friends at beer parlours, lounge or bars.

Watch out especially now that begging has increase among peers, friends and family members and close allies.

Just this morning my class mate was pronounced dead, as he was poisoned and left to die.

I saw another video of recent which was prior to this news, where a guy was poisoned and he died in an inhumane manner...vomiting blood and all sort before a doctor pronounced him dead.

Pls, watch and drink smart before the unthinkable happens.

People are just not happy seeing u do well.
Don't get it twisted as most people think it should be them and not u that is successful.

Be wise.

NIGERIANS and paranoia…

In a country where there are virtually no autopsies…
Where basic beer parlor hygiene is at best extremely dodgy.

But why let facts detract from a good story…
It’s much better to spout Conspiracy Theories and “Wickedness”!
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tollyboy5:
The funniest thing is, those after hm might be worst but not caught.

That may well be true…
But every one that is caught helps!
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atDublin:
Bad economy

Why wouldn’t there be “bad economy” if people are stealing and vandalizing ECONOMIC infrastructure?!
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