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macof:
lmao. since you two have a few things in common all of a sudden, it was unavoidable to mention you. Interesting how i became the imaginative evil to bring you too boys together

lmao this is now funny. And again i am saying i have seen his threads. And i am yet to find Otem post any facts nor have you highlighted any. All we see are just "revelations" that he claimed he received from an egyptian God that is how @triplechoice asked him to define the power of coincidence and he ran away. Science is not a discipline built on revelations, it follows a scientific method not sophist mumbo-jumbo. So when i call it a good fiction and not facts nothing can be more true. Even you confirmed to me that he made up a fake language, just as you have said repeatedly when engaging others on his threads that his claims are not proven. So what facts are you talking about?
I would really have loved for you to show me the facts suggesting Olorun is an alien and later reincarnated homo sapiens ancestor of the yorubas and other claims like the floods of 198,000 years ago that destroyed documented histories of many civilisations

you find his claims interesting as you would find any good fiction that is all. You get carried away and support and affirm his claims but when questioned you are quick to be insulting and defensive as you are forced to concede and admit his statements are mere claims not facts

I see that this Otem's issue is really getting you worked up seriously that's why you gave this lengthy reply to my short post.

You're actually wasting your time by pouring water into an empty basket because I didn't even bother to read the lengthy epistle.

I have made my conclusions on Otem's writings based on my research and findings and approach the book guided by that.

Whatever you think doesn't change the fact it's a book containing many historical facts and many unverified claims. If you feel like composing another thousand-word epistle to challenge that conclusion, you can go ahead.

When you're tired, you'll find some better to do with your time.

Workch:
Lawrence Krause always say that if you remove all the particles in the universe, the remainder will still weight something, meaning that nothing still weighs something.

He uses it to justify the argument that the universe can come from nothing since nothing still weigh something.

"Nothing" doesn't exist in reality. What we regard or see as nothing is due our limited perception and knowledge.

Before the invention of microscopes, humans didn't know of the existence of microorganisms. Then, microorganisms were seen as nothing.

Today, we now know they're a key part of our ecosystem.

Over time, what we see as nothing will continue to change as more and more advances are made in science and technology.

No true vacuum exists in any part of the universe. Something, however minute, must always exist in any specific space.

[quote author= post=107335550]Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
All of them that ruined our nation will never end well I life.

May Femi's soul Rest in Peace.
Such a sad incident.[/quote]Starting with your darling daddy, Buhari. Iranu

macof:
Go and answer the questions on the thread. https://www.nairaland.com/4735900/unanswered-questions-yorubas-hebrew-heritage. your assignment of 3 years

they are questions based on your own posts not me stating facts. it is your job to do the facts that's why i opened the thread with questions for you to state the facts.. till now we never see the facts much like your new friend @A001
instead you are monitoring me on nairaland and even trying to find out who i am offline. so obsessed

I don't understand your obsession with my moniker these days.

The facts you seek are on various threads here on Nairaland, but it's obvious you're more concerned with making mischief and reaching conclusions about things you know very little about hastily and ignorantly.

The complete Greek alphabets (upper case and lower case):

Olu317:
No language has ever matched the Coptic language in the world expcept the language of Ifaodu and Yoruba's. Do your research on it.

The best the western researchers have done so far is to call the language an isolate language or call it a liturgy.

My question is, Can the same God who created the knowledge to understand Scroll, which is translated to byblos or to bible , have the language dies ? This is where facts lies.

I don't really know much about the Coptic language of Egyptians.

Olu317:
Yoruba tradition. Yoruba language called coptic. Yoruba language called Semitic at a time in history. Ela shrin, you do ablution. Yoruba God was the foundation of world's monotheist God's. Ifa cannot die. Ela cannot die. Orunmiela cannot die. Eledumare cannot die. Yorùbá have Sonship heritage only. Ibá èdù,ibá ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀làà, , ibá orí,ibá ẹ̀làà, ibá ẹ̀lẹ́dà,Ibá ẹ̀mi , ibá èṣù -ikùun ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀làà

That's great.

Actman05:
�Trevoh Chalobah:

"It’s quite surreal. It’s a dream for me to sign a new long-term contract for my boyhood club and hopefully the dream continues."

"It’s been an unbelievable start to the season and something I never expected but it just shows that the hard work I’ve put in and going out on loans had paid off."

"I tried to impress the manager in pre-season and then take that into the games so it’s been good and consistency now is the key to keep those high levels."

� @TheChelseaFC

With this guy's form and performance in games so far, do you think we still need to sign Sevilla's Kounde?

Cc: BlueAngel444, Ibime

TheHulk616:
wow. You are a big man, sir. What are you doing here with we irresponsible fellows, sir?

This kid na were

LordReed:
It's like playing chess with a pigeon. It scatters the chess pieces, shits on the board and declares itself the winner.

A perfect analogy.

Lols

Workch:
Lol, he’s interested in just winning and not more.
Just ignore him

Yea

Workch:
Shey u see why people stay away from him now?
He's a pandemic of ignorance and scientific illiteracy.

The worst of all is that he says these nonsense with confidence

Lols. He's not worthy of getting a reply from me any longer. It's a waste of time engaging such a blockhead.

Workch:
I don't have time to educate a perpetual ignoramus

I am just having a laugh and showing my little son on how not to be an arrogant illiterate in future.

Lols. Na sorry case. I don commot my hand from the guy matter

He's arrogantly ignorant and inexorably so.

Dtruthspeaker:
Microbes, atoms, viruses have never been called or considered worthy by any reasonable person, of being called things.

Not even pure scientists call it a thing but here you are, attempting to give it the status of "things".

Every one knows that they are no different from plus +, minus - division ÷, multiplication × which no one has seen but their their presence and effect is felt and experienced.

And surely, we all know that NOTHING CREATES ITSELF NOR IS IT CAPABLE OF MANUFACTURING ITSELF, BY ITSELF.

SO YOU FALL!

AS EVIDENT IN YOUR ATTACK BELOW!



Now you Commit the Offence of Wrong Fully Attacking Me (Ad Hominem).

Yet workch attempted to say it is only Bible people who commit Fallacies and right now here is one but workch will claim not to see it.

Case Closed!

I am sure more Ad Hominems will still follow, since committing offences is joy to Satanists/Anti-God and Atheists.

And while they say bible people should not committ offences, they are the Generals of the Law Breakers Society World wide.

Madness! Criminals, complaining about criminaling!

Very very funny Comedy in deed!

Lols. Microbes, viruses aren't things? They're not living things microscopic in nature?

It seems your problem is more serious than I thought. Even a word as simple as things, you don't know it's meaning.

SMH.

This ludicrous post only shows how Nigeria's education system has sunk so low in quality.

Workch, see your guy embarrassing himself in public

Dtruthspeaker:
State the natural things, let me go outside and examine them. That's the beauty of Nature, it puts things beyond debate.

Men, women Scientists Lie and are capable of lying BUT NOT NATURE. so please state the natural things, if you have any.

Can you observe all things in nature with the naked eye?

Can you see microbes, viruses, crystalline structures of some atoms, and tons of others with your naked eyes? Or aren't all this natural things?

You're nothing but a scientific illiterate.

andrewbaba44:
Just like you didn’t needed the 36 year old Thiago Silva

Barca can sign him. You need him more. He can link up with Depay on the left wing.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are not giving ANY THING that everyone Sees and Knows, simple everyday things like sand, animals, birds, balls etc.action movies gibberish do not count.

Give us any natural thing or is it TRULY impossible for you to find one, as I said?

Some of them are natural things that can be observed with the right tools. The fact that you're not opportune to see them doesn't mean that several scientists in CERN, for instance, don't see lots of such things regularly.

Then, those quantum objects are found as components of the natural, everyday things you listed above and in many natural, biological, and physical processes.

Download link of the book below: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/religion.occult.new_age/african/51050059-African-Origins-of-World-Religions.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiC4Ynxuv7zAhXWA2MBHW7SCMMQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1sd70gWdUoUDwyIV1jc6aU

pu7pl3:
Those reasons are even false...Bale scored more goals under Zidane than he has under any other coach at RM because he played alot of minutes for him when he wasn't out injured

Vinicius has improved now yes but he also accumulated alot of minutes under Zidane

Yea

Workch:
Seriously I don’t know, that’s why it’s a mystery

I think the use of the phrase is not that bad. It's strictly a misnomer.

Dtruthspeaker:
Can you name one thing in this world which TRULY made and created itself?

Just one!

There are a number of such: entangled spins, the rest masses of unstable particles, the position of a particle that’s passed through a double slit, and so on.

Check this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/6690123/all-science-key-facts-researches/1#107300391

Workch:
What we know is that, there’s nothing like “before Big Bang”.

It doesn’t make any sense in physics to say “before Big Bang”, unless in the light of big bounce which we are yet to get any evidence for.

Yea, you're right. But the author used the phrase to refer to the origin of the Big Bang.

How else can he make such a reference without the phrase?

Could our Universe be Someone’s Chemistry Project?

It is a pivotal time for astrophysicists, cosmologists, and philosophers alike. In the coming years, next-generation space and ground-based telescopes will come online that will use cutting-edge technology and machine learning to probe the deepest depths of the cosmos.

What they find there, with any luck, will allow scientists to address some of the most enduring questions about the origins of life and the Universe itself.

Alas, one question that we may never be able to answer is the most pressing of all: if the Universe was conceived in a Big Bang, what was here before that?

According to a new op-ed by Prof. Abraham Loeb (which recently appeared in Scientific American), the answer may be stranger than even the most “exotic” explanations.

As he argued, the cosmos as we know it may be a “baby Universe” that was created by an advanced technological civilization in a lab!

As the former chair (2011-2020) of the astronomy department at Harvard University, the founding director of Harvard’s Black Hole Initiative (BHI), the director of the Institute for Theory and Computation (ITC) at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA), and one of the chief researchers with the Galileo Project, Loeb is no stranger to “exotic” theories about advanced intelligence and cosmic origins.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jeD7TG2Us

His credentials also include chairing the National Academies’ Board on Physics and Astronomy, the advisory board for Breakthrough Starshot, and being a member of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

He is also the author of the bestselling book “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth,” which addressed the possibility that the interstellar object ‘Oumuamua was an artificial probe.

This time around, it’s the foundations of the Universe itself (and whether or not aliens may have been involved) that have attracted Loeb’s interest.

For starters, there have been many conjectures as to what might have existed before the Big Bang. Some of the more well-known examples include that the Universe emerged from a vacuum fluctuation or that it is a cyclic process with repeated periods of contraction and expansion – Big Bang, Big Crunch, repeat.

There is even the notion that the Universe was born from matter collapsing inside a black hole in another Universe, which then rebounded to form the other side of the Einstein–Rosen bridge (a “wormhole”) where our Universe was conceived.

A similar version of this argument states that the Big Bang could have been a supermassive “white hole” that formed from a supermassive black hole (SMBH) in our parent universe.

Yet another theory is that our Universe is a consequence of the string theory interpretation of the multiverse, where infinite Universes coexist, and every possibility plays out an infinite number of times.

According to Loeb, this could take the form of our Universe being created in a laboratory by an advanced civilization.

“Since our universe has a flat geometry with a zero net energy, an advanced civilization could have developed a technology that created a baby universe out of nothing through quantum tunneling.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhFK5_Nx9xY

In the context of quantum physics, tunneling refers to a phenomenon where a wave function can propagate through a potential barrier.

This plays an essential role in physical phenomena, ranging from nuclear fusion and tunneling electron microscopes to quantum computing.

Unfortunately, the Standard Model of particle physics models cannot resolve how quantum mechanics and gravity interact, hence why a Theory of Everything (ToE) is still lacking.

However, a sufficiently advanced species may have already developed a ToE and the technology for creating baby Universes.

In essence, this theory offers a possible origin story that appeals to the religious notion of a creator and the secular notion of quantum gravity alike.

It suggests that a Universe like our own – which hosts at least one civilization (i.e., us) – is like a biological system that reproduces over generations. As Loeb explained to Universe Today via email:

"It explains the Big Bang as an infinite series of baby universes born inside each other, just like chicks hatching out of eggs and laying new eggs later in their life.

" If something predated this series of generations – it would have been something else, just as in the ‘chicken and egg dilemma.'”

This is reminiscent of the Kardashev Scale, which characterizes civilizations by Type (I, II, and III) based on the amount of energy they can harness.

Whereas Type Is are able to harness the energy of their entire planet, Type II civilizations can harness the energy of their whole star systems, and Type IIIs can harness the energy of their entire galaxy. In this case, says Loeb, the metric is a civilization’s ability to reproduce the astrophysical conditions that led to their existence.

For some, this whole Baby Universe theory might sound similar to the Zoo Hypothesis – a proposed resolution to the Fermi Paradox.

But as Loeb explained, there’s a fundamental difference between the two:

“The Zoo is a place where you watch the animals, but a baby universe cannot be observed from the outside according to General Relativity, Einstein’s theory of gravity.

The interior of the baby universe disappears from view of the creator and snaps out of the creator’s spacetime.

The situation is analogous to the formation of a black hole, where all the matter that falls into it cannot be observed once it enters the black hole horizon.

“As a result the creator of the baby universe will never know which type of civilization formed in it and will also not be able to intervene. Creating a baby universe might not consume energy because the negative gravitational energy cancels out the positive energy of matter and radiation in our universe, which is characterized by a flat geometry.

“The fate of our Universe is completely independent of the baby universe, just as the history of a person that enters the event horizon of a black hole has no influence on us. Based on everything we know, our own universe will expand forever.”

Another appealing feature of this theory is the way it’s free of anthropic reasoning, which essentially states that the Universe was selected for us to exist in.

Formally known as the Anthropic Principle, this stands in opposition to the Copernican Principle (or Cosmological Principle) that asserts that there is nothing special or unique about humanity or the space we occupy in the Universe.

However, the mere fact that slight variations in the laws of physics would rule out life would seem to suggest that we are fortunate.

In recent years, it has been suggested that multiverse theory is a possible resolution for the Anthropic Principle.

The Baby Universe theory is consistent with this idea, as it theorizes that the Universe gives rise to advanced civilizations that are drivers of a cosmic Darwinian selection process.

At present, humanity is not advanced enough to replicate the cosmic conditions that led to our existence.

Whereas a civilization that could recreate these cosmic conditions (i.e., produce a “baby Universe” in a laboratory) would fall into class A on this proposed cosmic scale, a class B civilization could adjust the conditions in its immediate environment to be independent of its host star.

Given our present situation, humanity is currently a class C or D since we cannot recreate the habitable conditions on our planet (when our Sun dies) and are carelessly destroying planet Earth through climate change.

But eventually, humanity may reach the point where we become a class A civilization and can partake in the hypothesized process of cosmic reproduction.

Who knows? Maybe we will even be able to create a baby Universe that is an improvement over our own. Loeb contends that such hopes may be a tad optimistic but that the prospect for cosmic procreation presents some very inspiring possibilities:

"We are getting close to producing synthetic life in our laboratories. Once we will understand how to unify quantum mechanics and gravity, we might know how to make a baby universe in the laboratory.

The ethics of making another universe would be similar to making another human being...

“But ultimately, it would be flattering to our species if the abilities that past generations assigned to God, namely creating a universe and creating life in it, will be at our disposal as an advanced scientific civilization.

If another civilization that predated us by a billion years had reached that goal already and we will encounter it one day, then that civilization will be a good approximation to what our past religions regarded as God.”

Source: https://www.universetoday.com/153107/could-our-universe-be-someones-chemistry-project/amp/

Further reading: https://www.scientificamerican.com./article/was-our-universe-created-in-a-laboratory/

Crystyano:
There's no such thing as the totality of existence since existence has no beginning/end

Whether there's something called the totality of existence or not, I'm less concerned. This thread isn't meant to discuss such a philosophical argument.

Please, don't derail the thread.

kingxsamz:
I'm sorry, you're not making any sense.
The lady equated being atheist as "going astray". Tell us how being Christian have made your society a better place since it's more populated by you folks. Thank you.

Don't expect any reasonable answer from those hypocrites, who are some of the most corrupt people on Earth.

hensben:
Odoi should try to push himself more, see how Akpororo is pushing hard at Real Madrid and it has increased his performance.

Vini is on beast mode this season.

LordReed:
Dtruthspeaker is a professor, a lawyer, a chemist and now a physicist. LMFAO!

Jack of all trades, master of none

Dtruthspeaker:
We do know everything elsewhere and beyond the earth but on earth, it is proven beyond reasonable doubt that everything on the earth has a Cause.

Says who? Where's your proof?

Crystyano:
Do you think what is real has a beginning?

Yes. But I don't think existence has a beginning or an end.

A person or thing has always existed and will always exist in one form or the other.

TenQ:
Some people feel that all the laws of physics can be summarized as one single statement and they begin to throw tantrums when a law of physics is not condensed to representing every law in one single phrase.

SInce you are an expert in Physics, please present a unified law of physics in one phrase rather than being so vague to demand a merger of Newtonian physics, quantum physics, nuclear physics etc in one single statement

You obviously don't understand what you posted.

It's completely unrelated to my comment about your poor knowledge of Physics.

I don't know where you got the idea that my post suggests you can condense all the laws of physics in a unified form as just a phrase.

Even Maxwell's equations (below) that unified electricity and magnetism did so with four equations.

The Einstein field equation (below) comprises 16 equations when all the tensors are considered.

How then do you think I meant all these can be unified with quantum mechanics and gravity using a single phrase?

Physics is some form of supernatural abracadabra stuff?

If you actually know that it's beyond the experimental capabilities of the currently available labs on Earth to merge all the fundamental forces of nature to together to form a unified law or a theory of everything, you wouldn't have made that post.

To gain a deeper understanding of nature, it's better you study Quantum Physics, Relativity. Your knowledge of Physics is at the level of secondary school students.

Your worldview is Newtonian and is anachronistic. Nature isn't really as simple as you paint it.