₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
The song is actually about adultery; It's just the way those guys narrated the incident saying " Person push mummy, mummy push person" and the "mummy beg tire " part of the song that makes people mistake the song for encouraging rape.

There's the last part of the lyrics of the song that actually has the theme of the song ADULTERY stated:

The push is not literal push. We all know the push they mean when two people wan biakwubiakwu. This is why you need to use long spoon when you eat with these people

Even if Gen Z feminazis are pushing that false narrative one would think the Millenials and Gen X that were mature when that song came out would correct them

They're allergic to any form of scrutiny. Just bring up paternity fraud or how they maltreat their househelps and you will see how someone you thought had sense will embarrass you so badly

Emaprince:
Wait...that zulezoo song we all knew was about a sneaky woman bringing in another man when the hubby was out, is now twisted to mean a ra..pe song? Hahaha...

Accountability is never womens forte anyway

My brother this is what we're dealing with

That was why that Ibime comment was so amusing. Imagine dealing with that kin person on a daily basis that can twist reality according to their moods and agenda on the day.

Better to be Shaolin monk or Reverend father

Eunoiaa:
What wahala? Why are trying to make it seem as if I am doing too much or whatever here? You do not know how to have a discussion in good faith without going personal?



I even only initially responded to you because I thought it was A OO1. And I took my time to do so. And you probably know who I am/how I am and the way I write. I do not get why you quoted me in the first place and turn around to call my response a dissertation. Like it was some vapid, vacuous post.



You were the one who veered off tangent and was bringing in things I never even said. Responding as if the things I said contradict anything you said. I never said Westernization doesn't have any influence on Nigeria or general popular cultures around the world. I simply singled out American feminist trends. Two things can be true at once. Did we have a #MeToo era in Nigeria where CEOs and entertainment giants were called out and sacked from the workplace en masse for sexual crimes and the likes? No. With the exception of recent the Bobrisky saga a few days back, transgenderism is not a thing in Nigeria. The criticism and the blowback that award show got happened mostly online. Nobody on the streets of Nigeria is being charged with misgendering claims. Even indulgence in homosexual acts is still a crime here. That is what I meant when I say that feminism (politics) in America does not translate to the rest of the world. Different society grows and develop in different stages and phrases. So it is NOT a failing of American 'Girlboss' Feminism, as you implied, that Nigerian female artistes do not collaborate with one another. You can come up with other explanations for it outside of feminism. It is also the same way the redpill/alpha male trend that developed on alt-right American forums have no influence on the Nigerian society. Nigeria is a patriarchal society in its own 'right/way' but it is not because of Andrew Tate and the manosphere. A relative of mine doesn't even know Elvis Presley when I asked him about it. This is not me veering off point; it is me substantiating my claim that American gender/feminist politics doesn't show itself in other countries' gender relations, so don't use the "noise" on social media to judge. Don't also wonder why Nigerian female artistes don't feature each other inspite of "girlboss" feminism. You expecting that is ethnocentric- judging another culture by the standard of another. This was my first answer to you, in other words.



In all my response to you, not once did I even think I made reference to you or to the nature of your gender. But you've gone personal with me more than once, but it's you that's seeing wahala. What do you mean he's "exposing my nature?"

Why did you ask me for something and when I responded you're trying to insist I am mad because it's an unpleasant truth about me?

Your post has been deleted, but from the little I recollect, you talked about how it is okay for women to praise their good qualities and show they are wife materials. But did I say that was not okay to do? Did I say it is a bad thing? I said Nigerian women are still very much traditional, even babes who work corporate and are now making money and providing for themselves, as men traditionally used to do, try to present themselves as wife materials. I did not say it as a dunk; I said it to show that Nigerian women aren't overwhelmingly feminist. There are plenty of mummy Zees out there and therefore, 'American feminism' cannot coexist seamlessly in our society. So don't expect features and parts and parcel of that feminism to be manifest here. Stop seeing the apparition of your feminist ex in situations trying to fight at it. I did not say Nigerian women are killing it in businesses to mean that people deserve a pat on the back for doing 'basic things', I said it to contrast against them still being very traditional, socially. That no matter how rich or independent they are, they still try to downplay it (example, Alakija). All of these just to buttress the fact that Nigerian women are traditional, and that Nigeria is not woke. I don't care for the reasons why. So do not expect feminist stuff in our kind of society, and music.

The Nigerian industry is dominated by men (this is not inherently good or bad), hence the few women there have to align with men if they want to get to the top. It is men that "control the money," so to speak (Davido, Olamide, Wizkid, Don Jazzy), so I don't expect women who are not feminist-leaning to forgo the profitability to be found in making music with men under male record labels just to partner with another small, poor female artist because of ideology.

Lady Donli is a feminist and she's okay not making mainstream music. The pop babes who want profitability over ideology are going over to male-owned record labels who have the money, clout and marketing strategies to push them. Before you come for me and say I am attacking anybody again, put on your thinking cap please. An observation is different from a criticism.

Nigeria is a traditional society hence people do traditional stuff and gravitate towards traditional beliefs and songs, including the women you know who sing Odumodu's songs. How simpler should I still spell this for you, or you just want to turn this another an argument for the sake of it?

Maybe if you'll get the social media accounts of the girls you've seen listening to Odumodu and go through it, and you see that they are the feminists who dislike and post against him Odumodu, I'll believe what you're saying about their hypocrisy.

498 people cannot be doing something, and when 2 people say they don't do it, you claim it's a lie because you know about 50 people (of the 498) who are doing so. Northern Nigeria has the highest number of child brides in the world, does that give you the right to go about accosting every Northern girl you meet about it? Poverty and illiteracy rates are the highest in the same place, yet I used to have some friends from ABU Zaria who are studying to be medical doctors and lawyers. Intelligent, well-to-do peeps. One even had a cat pet. If your cranium cannot assimilate this ANALOGY for what it is, in relation to this topic, before you go off telling me WHY child marriage is bla bla because of the age of consent or say that I am being hateful towards Northerners, you're more hopeless than I thought.

This is also the second answer I provided; feminists in NG are fewer in number than non-feminist women. The women you know who are vibing to Odumodu are not the ones calling him out.



"Fantasy world you people live in." This is also you going personal and exposing your bias, and not only that, but judging based on some pre-conceived notions you hold. Was it not enough for you to call what I said false and provide your perspective on the song? I'm afraid your intellect is highly stunted if you cannot relate with people on the basis of their individuality and what they are saying in the moment, without resorting to "you people" or some opinions you've seen feminists give.

I responded with an epistle as is MY nature but you quoted me first.


If you knew I live in la-la land like other feminists, why did you engage me and why are you continuing to engage me? Because I have more claim to the right of response seeing as you interacted with me first. What is the point of this? Are you seeing me in the feminist you dated or something?


P.S.: You started going personal so I am only returning the favour in kind. And find a bucket to cry salty tears into over this lengthy response.

Going personal? Where

Famalam. I don't have time to read all this. I am happy for you though or sorry that happened.

Eunoiaa:
This much we can agree on. I am not about to get suckered into a back-and-forth "banter" with you, and I certainly am not looking forward to convincing you of anything you choose to believe or take away from my response.


You asked why Nigerian female artists are not collaborating with each other given the rise of feminism globally/on the net, and I gave you a probable context as to why.


You also said you do not understand why feminists have an issue with Odumodu and you said their issue is actually a non-issue because you know girls in real life who vibe to his song, and I told you why that is so as well. Fin.

Lol. See wahala

No be you start dissertation unto small question I ask.

Go and read your post again and see how widely you veered off tangent without answering the question

I perfectly understand the issue you people have with Odumodu. I said I find it funny. And it's because he exposes the nature of a lot of you in an unflattering manner. The way a lot of your people commodify yourselves in the sexual market is the same way Odumodu was doing it in his song.

Even the Zulezoo you falsely claimed sang a song about rape meanwhile it was about a woman cheating. That's the fantasy world you people live

larride:
This is the misinformation the man in that video i.bime posted in the morning was talking about.

The way they are talking about illegal detention, you will think maybe the man locked up Chioma in police custody for months. The man simply reported the case to the police, she was invited and detained and released 48hrs later. From that September till now, the lady hasn't been arrested or detained, so where exactly is the illegal detention coming in?

The plan is to shift attention away from what the lady did to make it look as if the Erisco man is targeting and oppressing her when all available information point otherwise.

See the way you're casually throwing around 48hrs later. How would you feel if you were denied your freedom for 48 hours?

I'm not even siding with what the lady did. Shebi na Cardi B sue Tasha K for millions and won. She will likely spend her adult life paying that gbese.

Why can't similar approach be used? Let the courts handle it, you don't have to use police to harass and oppress is my point.

Doing business in Nigeria and thinking people won't sully your product from time to time is naive. However when you know the quality of your product you will always have people coming to your defense. You can't tell me the extremely negative PR he has generated now will not hurt his sales.

seankafor:
I never jam naija feminist real life before

As a matter of fact, I'll like to experience one physically too

Brother them dey ohh. Depending on your circle you will definitely run into them. Including the ones wey don make am their full personality.

The only problem be say them dey feminist till bill show and na that time you go see all the feminism dey leave their body. You go hear "I be woman oh"

Who get time for that kin akpuruka feminism.

BlueRayDick:
Verydarkman drew enough hate to himslef with his cockiness over different controversial issues . Those u see wishing he rots in detention are those who are tired of his misogyny , cockiness , loud-mouthedness and several other character he exhibits online . He has managed to draw hate to himself from different demographic.


But las las illegal detention is illegal detention . No matter what angle anybody chooses to look at things .

I myself don't even bother watching his videos , but detaining him for a week without charge is illegal

But he was the hero when he was exposing all those people selling poisonous creams.

Was it not when he doubted Mohbad pikin paternity that the whole beef started? Although that was in poor taste but he too has been the architect of his own misfortune

It seems clout is the new crack. Still on still illegal detention is not what we should be defending on any grounds. Like I said anyone can be victim in the future and there will be no one to speak for you

raumdeuter:
Nothing is good and nothing is bad it all depends on who the action is affecting

I dont know Erisco but for the information I have so far, I support him. You dont spoil my business and decades of work because of cheap clout

I no take anybody side tbh. My own problem is always that illegal detention because anybody can be victim tomorrow and they will also claim right. That's my own principle

See how Cardi B did Tasha K and now Tasha K is in everlasting gbese. Suing the Chioma and ensuring she's in permanent penury or letting the courts follow due process so she faces proper jail is better.

Even the Erisco tomorrow can be a victim depending on the aggressor which is why we should always push against unlawful detention

WhoDeyHause:
Haven't you noticed it's mostly the same demographic that wanted verydarkman's head that are supporting chioma? We all know what we are doing abi how sheikh oasis talk am?
But make him self try dey calm down, no be everything we see dem dey talk especially in this kind of wahala country.

Lol them and hypocrisy na like Baresi and Costacurta

They're the same demographic that will cancel R.Kelly and Diddy but lust over serial killers like Vybz Kartel and King Von who also killed girls btw

The guy sef too dey jabo. When you choochoochoo everytime you will always te eventually

Illegal arrest and detention is wrong sha. Nothing wrong with Erisco filing hefty lawsuits that will set the woman back financially for generations. But arresting someone and detaining them illegally because you can is where I will always draw the line.

Though I see the same people cheering when Verydarkman got picked up lamenting cos it's Chioma that was arrested. Na all this kin double standards and partia I no dey like. Either you stand on principle or forget about it

Ibime:
Calm down guy. If you want toast this babe, mention her on another thread abeg. What is this epistle?

Lmao ohh God. I no get strength for feminists pass one or two online bants abeg.

I don try them for real life, when them start their film I no dey fit hold my tongue. Ko le work out

oliverano:


After cooking 40 year old Milner, he was labelled the perfect Hazard replacement. Street will never forget the comments made about Mushryk after that game.

He has no football brain. At least with Doku he will cook the Burnleys, Bournemouths and Palaces.

Mushryk is not good against any team

@Blueraydick

You see how Ekiti cancel 80m x4 for one week. Moral of the story. Have steady source of funds and be consistent

You don see Bull run

oliverano:
Halaand without service is Alexander Sorloth. Those comparing him to Mbape are just looking for another Ronaldo Vs Messi rivalry. They're not close....Mbape clear.

Meanwhile, A40, you said that we made a mistake by allowing Pep to get his hands on Djokoo. This guy isn't better than Stanley Okoro if you watch him closely. May be it's the first season syndrome under Pep, we're watching.

E better pass that una Mudryk abi Mushryk sha

By not firing Tuchel by the time they announced he would be leaving at the end of the season was basically throwing the season away.

Tuchel a useless coach already with no incentive to perform, the players already in Cancun mode with some probably weighing their future at the club.

Everyone involved in this debacle in the past two seasons should be persona non grata at the club tbvh

Hamana hamana hamana

When does this end??

When you talk they say you're a hating old head but what really is the thing that sets today's play from the 90s and 00s apart from 3pt spamming.

What is the skill required to spam 45 3s a night instead of 15

birdman:
League is being negligent on this cat. Suspend the guy and tell him to stay home rest of the season. Before he ends someones career

Adam Silver is a cupcake and enabler. Can't stand that Martian.

The Warriors too deserve every grief he's causing them for enabling the donkey this long. Good luck trying to get his contract with 3 years to run off their books.

If Steph doesn't want to waste the last few seasons he has left he better ask for a trade. Serves them all right though for how they threw Poole under the bus.

Chai. So tey Steph wan dey cry. If he doesn't demand a trade this offseason then he's not serious at all

Very interesting debacle. Lakers two games behind Suns and Kings. With 9 games left. Warriors just 1 game ahead of Rockets.

And Jalen Green my goodness. So a sugar mummy older woman (sugar mummy dey drop bar not the other way round) is all it took for him to play at elite level, Sengun injury as well but this is ridiculous. 10 straight wins and he's looked like an All NBA member

Warriors are going to pay heavily for extending this donkey. The game has barely started

Incredible comeback 19 pts down with 8 minutes left

AD and D-Lo shot less than 40% and somehow the Lakers still won

Suns in very big problem. I can see the Lakers catching and passing them

Celtics blew a 22 pt lead to the Hawks. At the half. Something is fishy about that team. Once the 3 stops spamming they turn to Dodan Warriors

And the Rockets. 7 straight wins since Sengun went down. Albeit against struggling teams but you can only beat whose in front of you. Now only .5 games behind Warriors

I'm looking at the Suns schedule and I won't be the least surprised if the Lakers pass them for 8th. Disgraceful loss to the Wemby-less Spurs.

Every passing game they look like a paper tiger, between them and Clippers I don't know who is more fraudulent

I know it's less than 12 games and Lakers behind 2 and a half but the Suns face a murderer's row. They completely whiffed on their soft schedule and now they just might pay the price

Nuggets, Clippers and Pelicans 2x TWolves 2x Kings, Cavs

Absolutely brutal

This Clippers na dead. My goodness

Hopefully Ingram recovers quickly. The Pelicans should dump them out come playoff time and hopefully Steve Ballmer has the courage to blow up that team

Draaat. Double draaat. At least those whining everytime Verstappen wins a race are happy now

No way Michael Porter Jr is not on Nairaland. Since I called him to step up he's not stopped cooking

I wonder what his ceiling would have been if not for those back injuries and obviously it's helped the Nuggets cos he fell so low in the draft.

Quite the story that he's gunning for all 82 games. How he plays will be a huge factor in whether the Nuggets repeat or not cos if he's clicking I just don't know another combination that will consistently outscore them if he's firing

greypencils:
Feminism has done a number on American men. That's why I respect old gees like Snoop, Method, Ice Cube, Denzel, Samuel L Jackson,LL cool J & co. These guys have been married for long and they are still keeping it down. No drama from their wives. Those breed of women are rare and special. Not the ratchets we have today. The other side is the likes of Will Smith, Wade, Russell Wilson like you said. With your wealth, you don't need hiding behind a woman's skirt. Be the man. Sorry I derailed but I just need black men to be men. We regard successful black sportsmen as Alpha males because of the level of discipline and sheer will it has taken to build those muscles and earn the success they've earned. Why hide all that behind a woman whether she is a celebrity or not? See our Burna Boy, when Steff dey try camp am, im commot himself. See Dell Curry, Scottie Pippen, their women just dey put these men down. The thing dey pain me abeg. I dey pity for our black men.

I don't put any of these guys on any pedestal to be honest, my respect and admiration comes from what they do not necessarily their personal lives. I don't know these people

I do think the difference in the women of Yore and this batch today is these ones want to be in the spotlight even more than the man. Who is Ice Cube, Denzel, LL and Method Man's wife you don't even know?

On the other side you have the guys that were led by their wood and choose solely based on their lust and physical appearance. They cannot be the man cos they're led by their wood, doesn't matter if she's not as successful she will still want equal even superior say cos you're weak. As a rule of thumb if you're a successful man and your woman has not fully bought into your agenda and is ready to take the backseat you don't really have nothing

Black men no get sense normally. But societal conditioning plays a role especially in the West, It's now to the point you can't have any standards or they say you're a misogynist

Tweet you want a woman who's less than 180 pounds and is not carrying another man's child you will be skinned alive

Skrrrrrrr:
The warriors are a very funny Team. Podsziemski has zero points in 12 minutes of play. Wiggins also has zero.
Both are starters.

Steph really is the one that has had no help unlike the common narrative Bronsexuals push about their guy lacking help. How can anyone tell me with a straight face that this weak ass Warriors squad is a title contender.

Worse I don't see how they significantly get better next year with Klay and Draymond occupying significant cap room. Wiggins as well and we don't know where that one's head is at these days