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tonychristopher:
Thermostat removal is only needed when the car is constantly overheating (all thing been equal) like good radiator, good water pump, no host laekage, good oil ...but the car still over heats..then YANK OFF THE DAMN THERMOSTAT and connect your fan directly


It is a gradual process...it worked for , it will work for you

Na, I don't need to. Factory specs works just perfect for me.

tonychristopher:
somebody said dubai..i lived in dubai..they do not have traffic jamz and their roads are free so they can afford thermostat because even if engine is hot the emggine will be air cooled as the car is on high speed cos they have the finest road like autobahn..now they can afford thermostat...now here in Nigeria we have moisture, heat and humidity together with dust and bad road

This guy u sabi dribble pass messi I swear. First u claimed Dubai is not tropical region, or that it is not as hot as Nigeria. U knew u blabbed and now u switched reason to the fact that Dubai doesn't have traffic jam or they have good roads. Lol

Dubai alone does not make up UAE. There are deserts and remote areas with lots of dust that triple what we have here in Nigeria. Yet they have thermostats in their cars. I have a friend who is a Toyota dealership, all the Toyota cars in his shop are UAE imports, from the smallest yaris to landruiser. Guess what, all of them have thermostat.

tonychristopher:
In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.

How come u no longer include thermostat removal as u stated in ur original post?

ogawisdom:
Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus

Lol, very funny. It might be difficult to run a car on factory specs in Nigeria, but in the case of thermostat removal, I don't really see what is difficult about that. Thermostat or fans running inteminently DO NOT CAUSE OVERHEATING. Jeez do u also remove the thermostat in ur pressing iron?

tonychristopher:
Bros i have stayed in Dubai ..burjuman to be prescise

Dubai isn't a tropical weather go and ask sir

I said tropicalization of cars

Dubai has a tropical desert climate, which means it is hotter than Nigeria. U based ur tropicalization argument on temperature and humidity. Right now temperature is Dubai is 41 degrees Celsius, way hotter than kano.

So if cars in a desert climate like Dubai can have thermostat, then why would someone in Nigeria wants to remove his thermostat?

Why would someone even consider a Honda Odyssey for transport? Not saying its a bad car but for transport? Don't even try it. The transmission is sensitive. And Nissan quest? Op get urself a sienna or Mazda MPV.

tonychristopher:
What is the function of thermostat in a car ....tell us before we argue the relevancy or don't you believe it tropicalization

Dude u are trying to dodge the question. Let me quote u again.

tonychristopher:
Thermostat is for cars that are in Temperate region not Tropical region...

So I ask u again, would u call UAE (Dubai) temperate or tropical? Because cars from Dubai come with thermostat. In ur statement u said thermostats are for cars in the temperate and not tropical regions. So can u explain to us how come cars from the UAE have thermostat? And temperatures and humidity in UAE are higher than Nigeria.

tonychristopher:
Thermostat is for cars that are in Temperate region not Tropical region...

Let me ask u one simple question. What would u call UAE (Dubai)? Temperate or tropical? Temperarure and and humidity in Nigeria is child's play compared to UAE. So then why does my uncle's Toyota highlander which was a Dubai import come with a thermostat pre installed? Mind u, most of the bank type Toyota corolla are all built for Dubai market; they come with thermostat and their fans don't spin every time.

ogawisdom:
Ofcourse dt statement assummed other things being equal so its right.

A car without water/coolant in d radiator will overheat even one with brake binding issue will overheat

Glad u know. Just that ur initial statement sounded like removal of thermostat and connecting fans directly is the ULTIMATE solution to overheating.

tonychristopher:
I know that, I used to have a car that overheats due to the singular fact that it was from Canada but when I tropicalized the car..overheating stopped, though it burn a bit higher fuel, it is okay than changing gasket everytime


Thermostat is for cars that are in Temperate region not Tropical region...

My car came from Canada, single cell radiator, thermostat intact and fans don't spin unless when required. I can guarantee u that this car will not overheat even if u take it to the Sahara. And I am almost sure that ur car will overheat before mine does.

The reason cars overheat in this country is due to laziness and negligence. Just last week my mechanic went to tow a 2004 Honda accord with a blown head gasket. The owner drove the car until the temperature got to the red zone and he didn't even notice. He drove the car until the car stopped on its own when it could no longer handle the temperature. If u ask me anyone that drives a car until it overheats and stops working is not worthy to own a car. People drive without paying attention to the temperature gauge, they put only water in their radiator because they are lazy . so they choose the easy route which is bypassing the fan, removing thermostat and installing double cell radiator. That way they will never have to keep an eye on the temperature gauge because it will barely rise.

ogawisdom:
Op dnt let some experts catch u n this ur explanation esp ikenna351

Anyway u ve some point
A car used in nigeria with thermostat removed n fan running steadily will never overheat dts a fact.

Wrong.

A car with thermostat removed and fan running steadily but with a bad water pump will still overheat. A car with bad radiator cap will overheat even with quadruple cell radiator and quadruple fans spinning non stop.

Nigerians can misuse Ac. Not saying the ac killed the baby, but almost all ac gas what we call climate control. It is meant to control the temperature u desire ur room to be in. Someone posted above me that 16 degrees is not too much, are u kidding me, 16degrees for a new born? I've been to many homes and they always keep their ac at the coolest, some don't even know the temperature can be controlled, same thing with car ac.

When my child was born we always put on the ac, but the temperature is always left at 20 degrees during the day with fan set at low, and then between 24-26 degrees at night. That is enough to keep the baby's temperature at optimum.

Somebody said he's been running 20w50 for 2 years and I laugh. What about the oyinbo man that has been using that car for 15 years before it was imported? Using wrong oil will not have immediate effect in ur engine, but will surely lower its life span. If that white man was running 20w50 I'm sure the car wouldn't have survived the 15 years

ERCROSS:

Must we always call on these foreigners to execute major infrastructural contracts when we have graduates in such field in this country..

Instead of wasting excess money on foreign firm, why not upgrade our institutions too and employ these foreign lecturers to teach us what it needs to be an expatriate in one's chosen field , so u won't need to be flown out of the country before u can get a good health care...

[size=15pt]Nigeria, when will u start entrusting such huge projects to your institution graduates... [/size]

I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY ...

Relax, we are not there yet. U can't expect them to give such a huge and sensitive contract to a local company. We can't even build an engine in this country yet (Most of Innoson parts are imported from China). And we all know how roads and buildings constructed by local contractors compare with the ones executed by foreign companies. Even in advanced countries, they give contracts to foreign firms with better experience and equipment than local firms.

A good example is the Apple which is a USA company. The Iphone 6 camera has Sony (A Japanese company) sensors and LG (Japanese) display. Also the phone was assembled in China. It is not a crime to give contracts to foreign companies especially when u know they will do a better job than the locals.

U are asking for such huge contract to be given to graduates? U mean those that barely know theory and little to nothing about practicals? I'm a graduate of science and I can tell u our technical schools are nothing to write home about. We pay too much attention to theory and very little to practicals. In reality, theory ends in school while practicals is what u take out there.

atarapa:
I heard that a serving Gov bought used car for #90m

Very Possible. The 2004 Ferrari Enzo below is sold for $500,000 which is roughly 100m naira. Some used cars cost more than that. When u add shipping and clearing that would amount to about 108m.

IYANGBALI:
abeg make we here word jo

This is why our IQ in this country is very low. A dead baby was found under the bridge and everyone concludes it was dumped by the mother. smh.

MarvellousGod:
Just look at the cute and plump baby...

RIP cutie... I don't even have words for the heartless mother. .

U people should try to see things from different perspective. Nobody knows if the baby was dumped there by the mother or even a woman. The mother might be dead, or the baby might be stolen, etc etc. Does that still make the mother heartless?

WukedP:
Just early this Morning a friend sent me this pics, he was on his way going to work when he saw people gathered and looking under a bridge,

So he decided to atlist take a quick look before proceeding lo n behold twas the dead baby of a new bornbaby dumped by an unknown woman, God havemercy.. Wicked world, it happened in suleja rafinseny Nigerstate this Morning

How did u know it was dropped by a woman? Were u there?

missKiffy:
Range Rover nko?

Range Rover sha? Even Land Rover themselves know they did not build the range rover to last, They are meant for the rich who buy them and enjoy them when still new. I will not advice anyone to buy a 5 year old Range Rover.

Between 550k - 100 million naira.

izuch:
How do tou remove indicator 62?

Scan ur car, the codes will lead u to the problem. Then clear the codes.

xreal:
So bad.

He peeped through the window and discovered there were no ijebus' or egbas' among the victims and sped off.
There is no love, there is no one Nigeria.

RIP to the dead.

Must u be tribalistic about everything? So it is written on somebody's face if he is ijebu or egba? Grow up already, what is bad is bad, people lot their lives. RIP to the dead.

Ur mechanic might be right. The thermostat must have been removed which makes the fan run non stop once ur ac is turned on. The way the cooling system works, when thermostat is open, it allows water from the radiator flow through the engine, which signals the engine coolant sensor and activates the cooling fans. Without thermostat water will be flowing in and out non stop, hence the fans would be working non stop. The fans stop working when the thermostat is closed.

MRBrownJ:
if that person disregard the warning on their passport, and went ahead fully aware of the dangers of their acts, then that last sign at the airport arrival hall is pointless, imho! sadly, if they manage to go through, their desire for easy riches (selling "death" will quadruple, and only when they are caught, they will realise their mistakes. havent you seen the youtube videos of Nigerians caught in Bangkok, and how they are trying to find all excuses under the sun as to why they dealing drugs, instead of facing the fact that they are lazy people who wanted to cut corners.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dASnWhwzL-Y

then check all the Youtube videos from radio419megahertz about Nigerians and their denial! only death can save them!

U don't get it do u? The repeated warnings everywhere is to instinct fear on the drug peddlers and make them realize they are SERIOUS. When someone reads that at the arrival, then he gets to customs and still see the warning everywhere at the airport, no doubt a little fear would get into him. Fear means nervous, and nervous means easily suspected and subsequently caught. Trust me it works.

Let me give u an illustration, let's say u wake up in the morning, checked ur phone and saw a text message from an unknown sender and the message reads ' DO NOT SIT ON UR OFFICE CHAIR TODAY OR U DIE'. If u are someone like me, u won't take it serious, u would think its just a silly prank. So u took ur shower and head out to work, at the bus stop someone u haven't met before approached u, and said the sane thing to u. Then u would be like 'what the hell is going on'? U got to office and the security man told u the same thing, and u got to the reception and the receptionist told u the same thing.

So tell me what would u do? Wouldn't u be at least scared (even for a little bit), and would u still go ahead and sit on the chair without at least praying? That is the logic. If a drug peddler sees the warning on his Visa , he might not take it serious. But when the pilot announces it as he's about getting off the plane, he would start thinking. Then he sees it written allover the airport, then he would definitely know they mean business.

MeAboki:
I have no pity for these ppl and wish them double punishment: execution here on earth and eternal fire in hell, let that be their portion, all you good ppl follow me and say Amin.

Who go follow u say amin? If u be God I swear everybody for don die. Do u want to tell me u are saint and u don't sin? So why haven't God killed u? Let them face their punishment here on earth, as for eternal fire in hell, why not let God be the judge to that?

MRBrownJ:
again, you people didnt understand what i wrote, so i am going to explain it to you guys slowly:
1) the OP showed pictures of warnings of death penalty for drug carriers AT THE AIRPORT in Indonesia (important word here is at the airport)
2) the OP therefore asked how people could still be knowingly carrying drug to that place
3) i then explained to him that "by the time they see THESE BANNERS (that he posted) IT IS TOO LATE TO BACK TRACK".
4) so, your minds should have made the following conclusion: by the time a criminal lands in Indonesia and see these banners (which is what the OP asked, isn it?), it is much TOO LATE for these criminals to change their mind.... aka these banners at the arrival side of the airport are useless.
5) i am explaining a simple fact that these banners are useless because these criminals cannot change their action by the time they read THESE BANNERS (completely different than when they read what is in their passport), and certainly not condoning what these criminals are doing. my stand on the matter of drug dealing remains the same: if caught in a country where there is death penalty then they should die, plain and simple!



no they cant, and it will be very difficult to prove your innocence in this matter. here are simple questions they will ask you:
- when you were swallowing these pellets, what did you actually thought it was?
- if you thought it was something legal, why swallow them then?
- if the banner scared you then that means you KNEW that you had drugs and you knowingly decided to be a mule, but since you (now) saw that it carries a death penalty in that country, you want to report yourself. at best, you may avoid death and get life in jail!



yeah i am a carrier, currently on death row and posting from Indonesia jail.

U might have a valid point, but saying those warnings are useless is FALSE. A lot of these peddlers are not first timers. So let's say they did it for the first time, saw the warnings at the airport and let's say it was too late to turn back. Luckily they escaped, made some money and come back home. Then they still go back another time not minding the warnings and then they are caught. Would u still say they have not been warned?

IdiAmin1:
Exactly my thought. Why kill them now when the law didn't say so as at the time of the crime.

I'm not in support of crimes but I'm of the school of thoughts that supports equity.

However, my brothers please stay off crime, let's work hard and shame our enemies

And how did u know the law was not there as of the time they were caught? U can't just write based on speculations. They had 2 australians and the Australia govt tried its best to save them. Do u think if the law wasn't in the constitution by the time they were caught then the execution would have occurred? They went to court and were found GUILTY. Stop being overly sebtimental.

MRBrownJ:
sadly, a person who has traveled across the world with drugs in their stomach or belongings, will only see this banners when they ARRIVE in Indonesia/Malaysia and therefore it is unfortunately too late to back track. people dont normally carry drug from Indonesia/Malaysia out to the world, but from the world to Indonesia/Malaysia

It is also written in RED in the Malaysia and probably Indonesia tourist visas. Really anyone on death row for drugs has no excuse. U see the warning in the visa, u see the warning at different sections of the airport, they even announce it in the plane, so what other excuse do u have?

KanwuliaJara:
I can still love Nigeria and tribalize issues too.
Statistics will ALWAYS help to determine those who need help, so we can predict their behaviour patterns and keep the WORLD SAFE!

I get it. U are from south west, so am I. Today it is ur turn to take a Swype at the Igbos, but trust me very soon a crime committed by a Yoruba tribe will be reported abroad and the igbos will come here and take turn. For how long will u continue with this?

KanwuliaJara:
This tribe again?
Too many fatherless babies in the UK raising themselves i tell you.

Don't bring tribalism into this. Lots of Nigerians are committing crimes abroad all in the name of hustling, na who dem catch u go see. In fact the only tribe that behaves (to some extent) abroad are the Hausas. U hardly hear about their crimes abroad.

Its time we love ourselves in this country, forget tribalism. An Igbo man commits crime in UK today, tomorrow it will be a Yoruba man so what are u saying? Or didn't u see a Yoruba man was one of the Indonesia 9? The only people that are free here are the Hausas. We hate ourselves more than the white man hates us, and tomorrow we will be the first to shout RACISM whenever things don't go our ways abroad. SMH.

If we hate ourselves this much, then how can we love foreigners the way they love us when we visit their countries? Believe me our own will be a lot more than mere RACISM if tables were to turn and our countries become like the white man's while theirs become like ours. But then, since we don't love ourselves, our country can never be like theirs.