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@ enilove
If the condition for
crucifixion is that someone must have committed
a sin worthy of death, then Jesus must have escaped the crucifixion since he did not commit any sin worthy of death by crucifixion.

There is no need for Jesus to pay for our debt of sin, every sinner must pay for the debt of his own sin by REPENTANCE ( Ezekiel 33:10-16, Luke 5:32, Qur'an 66:7-9) . Otherwise, the sinner will pay for the debt of his own sin by punishment in the hell

@enilove
Jesus did not commit any intentional sin or inherited any sin .
It is unrepentant sinner that deserved to be cursed by God if he dies in that condition.

This is exactly what we are telling you that Jesus did not deserve to be under the curse of God because he never did anything against the will of God. Therefore he must have escaped the crucifixion since EVERYONE that iś crucified must definitely fall under under the curse of God. Otherwise, Deuteronomy 21:23 is not really true when it says "EVERYONE that is hanged is accursed by God". The term everyone implies both the sinners and the righteous. So you don't have any point to defend your case.

And if you agree with Paul that Jesus was cursed by God on our behalf as sinners, then be aware that there is no need for the righteous to be cursed by God before the sinners can be saved; the sinners can be saved through his sincere repentance as the folllowing verses below declare;
Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then TURN FROM THEIR SINS and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live (Ezekiel 33:10-16)".
Have you now seen that there is no need for the righteous to be cursed by God before the sinners can be saved and lived. The sinners can simply atone for their sins by REPENTANCE.
Jesus confirmed this truth when he said; I came not to call the righteous, but SINNERS TO REPENTANCE (Luke 5:32).

@enilove

On the authority of Holy Qur'an;
1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an 19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth (Qur'an 21:91)
3. Muslims believe in all the miracles Jesus performed during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110)
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an 4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus 2nd coming toward the end of the world.(Qur'an 43:57-61)

So if anyone tells you we muslims do not believe in Jesus, you have been deceived. What else do you want to us to believe about Jesus. It is only on the last day you will fully realize that the person you follow is not Jesus but Paul.

If it is well grounded in the Old testament that the coming Messiah will be crucified, then why is it that it is that the same Jesus crucifixion that serve as a STUMBLING BLOCK for the Jews to believe in Jesus (See 1st Corinthians 1:23)? Think about this very well. Do you know their scriptures more than them ?
If the Premise 5 is wrong and the muslims cannot win God on the issue of Jesus crucifixion, then respond on the behalf of God to the last point made by the muslims

@enilove

If all the premises of my argument is wrong, then take your time to spell out the reason for each of the premises if you are truthful
Premise 2 says Jesus crucifixion is one of the foundational pillars of Christianity. Yet the only reason you insist that all my premises are wrong is because they argue against your most cherised doctrine ;Jesus crucifixion. Is this not a contradiction on your part ?

Despite their agreement on Jesus as a mighty prophet of God who was born miraculously by virgin Mary, Christians and Muslims still disagree on some certain issues concerning Jesus Christ. For example, Bible affirm that Jesus crucifixion is true while the Qur'an declare that Jesus crucifixion is NOT true (Qur'an 4:157). Base on this very disagreement, it is impossible for both Islam and Christianity to originate from the same God.

But for the sake of argument, let us assume that Christianity is the one and only true faith from God. Now proceed and read the following premises.


PREMISE 1: If the ONE AND ONLY TRUE faith from God is Christianity, then ALL the foundational pillars of Christianity must be TRUE.


PREMISE 2: Jesus crucifixion is ONE of the FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS of Christianity:
In fact, it is the heart of the Gospel. This is the reason why Paul declared as follows
"For I resolved to KNOW NOTHING while I was with you EXCEPT Jesus Christ and him CRUCIFIED (1st Corinthians 2:2)
Again, you will notice that the symbol of "CROSS" which is usually used to represent Christianity stands for nothing but JESUS CRUCIFIXION. Even when the world Christian denominations differ over some issues like Trinity, they ALL (including Jehovah witnesses) AGREE on Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, Jesus crucifixion is INDISPENSABLE in the world of Christianity.


PREMISE 3: Therefore, being one of the foundational pillars of Christianity, then follow from the premise 1, Jesus crucifixion must be TRUE, if the ONE AND ONLY TRUE faith from God is Christianity.


PREMISE 4: Hence, if Jesus crucifixion is REALLY TRUE, then NOBODY must be able to argue reasonably with God over the issue of Jesus crucifixion and win.


PREMISE 5: However, Muslims would be able to argue reasonably with God over the issue of Jesus crucifixion and win.
Let us suppose the following conversation take place between God Almighty and the muslims on the day of Judgement on the assumption that Jesus crucifixion is true;

God: O you muslims why did you REFUSE to believe in Jesus crucifixion ?

Muslims : O Lord our God and creator, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus as Your mighty prophet who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. Qur'an also make us to believe in all the miracles that Jesus performed during his earthly ministry. Furthermore, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus'ascension to heaven and that he is coming back toward the end of the world. So it is also written in the same Qur'an that Jesus was not crucified.

God; Yes, your Qur'an is true regarding all those things it mentioned concerning Jesus. But why are you so sure that your Qur'an did not get it wrong on the issue of Jesus crucifixion ?

Muslims: O Lord our God and Creator, the reason why we believe that Qur'an is true on the issue of Jesus crucifixion is because it is also written both in the Old Testament (Deuteronomy 21:23) and the New Testament ( Galatians 3:13) that "EVERY ONE THAT IS HANGED (i:e CRUCIFIED) IS ACCURSED BY GOD" and it is not possible for You as a God of love, mercy and justice to put your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet under Your curse. From the logical reasoning you gave to us as human being, we were able to deduce that only the devil and his followers are deserved to be under Your curse: NOT Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet like Jesus christ, who never did anything against Your Will. You are naturally known to always BLESS Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophets and never to CURSE any one of them.

Please do you think God Almighty can still have further evidence against the Muslims concerning the issue of Jesus crucifixion base on this reasonable reply ?

Now let us suppose that similar conversation take place between God and the Christians on the day of Judgement on the assumption that Jesus crucifixion is NOT true;

God: O you Christians, why did you believe in Jesus crucifixion ?

Christians: O Lord our God and creator, Bible make us to believe in Jesus as Your son and as Your mighty prophet who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. Bible also make us to believe in all the miracles that Jesus performed during his earthly ministry. Furthermore, Bible make us to believe in Jesus'ascension to heaven and that he is coming back toward the end of the world. So it is also written clearly in the same Bible that Jesus was crucified and resurrected back to life on the third day.

God: But it is also written in the same Bible that ANY ONE THAT IS HANGED (i:e CRUCIFIED) IS UNDER MY CURSE (Deuteronomy 21:23). So how could you have believed that I put My innocent, righteous and beloved son under My curse when he has never done anything against My will?

Christians: O Lord our God and creator, we believe in Jesus crucifixion because it has been prophesied many years ago in the Bible that a coming messiah must be KILLED and CURSED on our behalf before we can be entitled to Your salvation.

God: But why did you think I must KILL and CURSE My innocent, righteous and beloved son (or prophet) before I can grant you My salvation ?

Christians: O Lord our God and Creator, You cannot just do away with Your justice simply because You want to grant us Your salvation. This is the reason why we believed that an innocent and righteous soul must be KILLED and CURSED on our behalf to SATISFY YOUR DIVINE JUSTICE before we can be entitled to Your salvation.

God: But if it is an act of INJUSTICE for Me as a God of love and mercy to FREELY forgive and grant you My salvation, then is it not a GREATER act of INJUSTICE for Me to KILL and CURSE My innocent, righteous and beloved son (or prophet) ?

Christians: But O Lord our God and creator, the Bible is too detailed and too explicit on the issue of Jesus crucifixion for us not to believe in it.

God: But how could you have relied COMPLETELY on the Bible for the TRUTH when it has so many contradictions abound on its record of events concerning Jesus crucifixion . Can you resolve the following contradictions on Jesus crucifixion for Me?

Question 1; When was Jesus exactly crucified ?
-It was at the THIRD HOUR (Mark 15:25 KJV ).
- It was after the SIXTH HOUR (John 19:14-16 KJV)

Question 2; What was the actual colour of the robe given to Jesus when the soldiers were mocking him ?
-It was purple (John 19:2)
-It was scarlet (Matthew 27:28)

Question 3; How did detachment of the troops recognized Jesus before they arrested him ?
- It was through the kissing of Jesus by Judas (Matthew 26:48-49)
-It was Jesus that went out and presented himself to them (John 18:4-9).

Question 4; Who carried the cross of crucifixion to Golgotha ?
-It was Simon of Cyrene (Matthew 27:32 )
- It was Jesus himself (John 19:17)

Question 5; What was the ACTUAL WORD FOR WORD inscription fastened to the Jesus’ Cross ?
-The inscription was : “THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Mark 15:26)
- The inscription was : “THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Matthew 27:37).
- The inscription was : “JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.” ( John 19:19)

These are just only five out of many contradictions abound on the record of events concerning Jesus crucifixion. So how could you have believed that all these irreconcilable contradictions were inspired by Me ?

Please do you think the Christians can still have further evidence against God concerning the issue of Jesus crucifixion base on all these reasonable replies given to them by God ?

See how the Muslims would win and the Christians would lose their arguments with God over the issue of Jesus crucifixion on the day of Judgement !


PREMISE 6: Since Muslims would be able to argue reasonably with God over the issue of Jesus crucifixion and win, then follow from premise 4, Jesus crucifixion is NOT TRUE. And if Jesus crucifixion is NOT TRUE, then follow from premise 3, ONE of the FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS of Christianity is NOT TRUE. And if one of the foundational pillars of Christianity is NOT TRUE, then follow from premise 1, the ONE AND ONLY TRUE faith from God is not Christianity. And if the ONE AND ONLY TRUE faith from God is not Christianity, then Christianity must be a FALSE faith.

Being a false faith, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with Christianity. Therefore, if the Christians really love Jesus Christ and they do not want to lose him completely, they must embrace Islam. This is because apart from Christianity, Islam is the only Abrahamic faith on earth that make believing in Jesus and all other biblical prophets as one of the basic and most fundamental article of its faith.

PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF GOD, WHICH OF THE SIX PREMISES CITED ABOVE IS WRONG ? THEN STATE THE REASON WHY IT IS WRONG.

It is totally foreign and contradictory to our logical reasoning for God of love, mercy and justice to curse an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. This is the reason why the message of atonement through Jesus crucifixion was a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles during the lifetime of Paul (1st Corinthians 1:23). But Paul tried to write some verses in an attempt to solve this problem of logical contradiction inherent in this very doctrine. Such verses are as follows: The natural man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him; he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned (1st Corinthians 2:14). For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing (1st Corinthians 1:18). Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men (1st Corinthians 1:25). This is the reason why many Christians see no logical problem again with the idea of “an innocent, beloved and righteous son who was under the curse and condemnation of his own merciful and omnipotent Father”. Therefore, base on the verses quoted above, Paul has succeeded in making the Christians to think that a fundamental spiritual doctrine which is completely foolish to our logical reasoning could actually be a great wisdom in the sight of God. But if Paul's assertion is really true, why would God of reason (Isaiah 1:18) ask a natural man to believe and accept a fundamental spiritual doctrine that cannot be understood and completely foolish to his logical reasoning especially when that reasoning is the ONLY INSTRUMENT at his disposal to recognize that true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities? If there is only one spirituality in the entire world of human being, then Paul may be right in his claim. But there are many spiritualities like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Baha’ism, Taoism and Sikhism. Since each of these spiritualities is claiming to be on the right path, it is now left for any natural man to use the only instrument (his logical reasoning) given to him by God to recognize the true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities. This is exactly the reason why God must design the true spirituality in such a way that all its basic and fundamental doctrine would not be in conflict with the basic logical reasoning He bestowed upon a natural man. A fundamental true spiritual doctrine may support or be neutral to basic logical reasoning bestowed upon natural man; but they will never be in conflict with each other. How could true spirituality designed by God and basic logical reasoning originated from the same God be in conflict with each other? If they can be in conflict with each other, then how can a natural man decide whether to accept or reject a true spiritual faith in the midst of many fake spiritual faiths? Have you now seen how Paul gets it wrong by asserting that “the natural man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him”? Is true spirituality not meant to be accepted and embraced by natural man? Now that it is foolishness to him; how is he going to accept and embrace it? To see further that Paul is wrong in his claim; suppose you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith that is very rich in spirituality. But one of its unique and fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly is that you have to believe that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose (May God be Exalted and glorified above such behavior). Now consider the following questions; 1. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? 2. Would you not ask about the actual connections that exist between that greater purpose and the act of lying that must be committed by God before the purpose can be achieved? 3. Would you not ask why All- knowing and Omnipotent God decided, at first instance, to give preference for such irrational way of lying over many rational ways He can design and create from His infinite knowledge and unlimited power to achieve that greater purpose? 4. Would you just accept that the way and the thought of such a lying God is higher and complex than your way and your thought? 5. Would you just fold your arms and accept that the foolishness of such a lying god is wiser than the wisdom of all men (see 1st Corinthians 1:25 quoted above)? 6. Would you just accept such faith relying on the claim that it has already been foretold in one old book that God would commit such act of lying (just like the Christians used to claim that it has already been foretold in the Old Testament that God would curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul on the cross of Calvary for the sins of all men)? Now ponder over these six questions cited above and then tell me the difference between this imaginary faith which proclaim that God MUST commit an act of lying to achieve a particular greater purpose and the Christian faith which also proclaim that God MUST curse (Galatians 3:13,Deuteronomy 21:23) and condemn an innocent and righteous soul on a cross of Calvary to achieve a particular greater purpose (like solving the problem of sin with humanity or rescuing the humanity from bondage of Satan). Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us to believe the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH AND NEVER TO COMMIT AN ACT OF LYING for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to ALWAYS BLESS THE INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL AND NEVER TO CURSE THE SAME SOUL for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. It is now clear that even if there are some spiritual benefits in the inner rooms of a true faith, there is still need for the logical reasoning to take us to the main door of those inner rooms at first encounter. But as we have pointed above, the doctrine of a merciful, omnipotent and omniscient God who cursed and condemned his only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary for a particular greater purpose is totally in conflict with what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. This is because a god who could not devise a way to implement his plan except to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul is either not truly merciful or not truly omnipotent or not truly omniscient. Yet to believe in the existence of such a god is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44. Therefore, an illogical idea of God cursing an innocent and a righteous human soul on a cross of Calvary in order to solve the problem of sin with humanity (or to liberate the humanity from the bondage of Satan) is far away from the truth. The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

It is totally foreign and contradictory to our logical reasoning for God of love, mercy and justice to curse an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. This is the reason why the message of atonement through Jesus crucifixion was a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles during the lifetime of Paul (1st Corinthians 1:23). But Paul tried to write some verses in an attempt to solve this problem of logical contradiction inherent in this very doctrine. Such verses are as follows: The natural man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him; he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned (1st Corinthians 2:14). For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing (1st Corinthians 1:18). Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men (1st Corinthians 1:25). This is the reason why many Christians see no logical problem again with the idea of “an innocent, beloved and righteous son who was under the curse and condemnation of his own merciful and omnipotent Father”. Therefore, base on the verses quoted above, Paul has succeeded in making the Christians to think that a fundamental spiritual doctrine which is completely foolish to our logical reasoning could actually be a great wisdom in the sight of God. But if Paul's assertion is really true, why would God of reason (Isaiah 1:18) ask a natural man to believe and accept a fundamental spiritual doctrine that cannot be understood and completely foolish to his logical reasoning especially when that reasoning is the ONLY INSTRUMENT at his disposal to recognize that true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities? If there is only one spirituality in the entire world of human being, then Paul may be right in his claim. But there are many spiritualities like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Baha’ism, Taoism and Sikhism. Since each of these spiritualities is claiming to be on the right path, it is now left for any natural man to use the only instrument (his logical reasoning) given to him by God to recognize the true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities. This is exactly the reason why God must design the true spirituality in such a way that all its basic and fundamental doctrine would not be in conflict with the basic logical reasoning He bestowed upon a natural man. A fundamental true spiritual doctrine may support or be neutral to basic logical reasoning bestowed upon natural man; but they will never be in conflict with each other. How could true spirituality designed by God and basic logical reasoning originated from the same God be in conflict with each other? If they can be in conflict with each other, then how can a natural man decide whether to accept or reject a true spiritual faith in the midst of many fake spiritual faiths? Have you now seen how Paul gets it wrong by asserting that “the natural man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him”? Is true spirituality not meant to be accepted and embraced by natural man? Now that it is foolishness to him; how is he going to accept and embrace it? To see further that Paul is wrong in his claim; suppose you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith that is very rich in spirituality. But one of its unique and fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly is that you have to believe that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose (May God be Exalted and glorified above such behavior). Now consider the following questions; 1. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? 2. Would you not ask about the actual connections that exist between that greater purpose and the act of lying that must be committed by God before the purpose can be achieved? 3. Would you not ask why All- knowing and Omnipotent God decided, at first instance, to give preference for such irrational way of lying over many rational ways He can design and create from His infinite knowledge and unlimited power to achieve that greater purpose? 4. Would you just accept that the way and the thought of such a lying God is higher and complex than your way and your thought? 5. Would you just fold your arms and accept that the foolishness of such a lying god is wiser than the wisdom of all men (see 1st Corinthians 1:25 quoted above)? 6. Would you just accept such faith relying on the claim that it has already been foretold in one old book that God would commit such act of lying (just like the Christians used to claim that it has already been foretold in the Old Testament that God would curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul on the cross of Calvary for the sins of all men)? Now ponder over these six questions cited above and then tell me the difference between this imaginary faith which proclaim that God MUST commit an act of lying to achieve a particular greater purpose and the Christian faith which also proclaim that God MUST curse (Galatians 3:13,Deuteronomy 21:23) and condemn an innocent and righteous soul on a cross of Calvary to achieve a particular greater purpose (like solving the problem of sin with humanity or rescuing the humanity from bondage of Satan). Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us to believe the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH AND NEVER TO COMMIT AN ACT OF LYING for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to ALWAYS BLESS THE INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL AND NEVER TO CURSE THE SAME SOUL for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. It is now clear that even if there are some spiritual benefits in the inner rooms of a true faith, there is still need for the logical reasoning to take us to the main door of those inner rooms at first encounter. But as we have pointed above, the doctrine of a merciful, omnipotent and omniscient God who cursed and condemned his only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary for a particular greater purpose is totally in conflict with what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. This is because a god who could not devise a way to implement his plan except to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul is either not truly merciful or not truly omnipotent or not truly omniscient. Yet to believe in the existence of such a god is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44. Therefore, an illogical idea of God cursing an innocent and a righteous human soul on a cross of Calvary in order to solve the problem of sin with humanity (or to liberate the humanity from the bondage of Satan) is far away from the truth. The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

Mr plainbible truth

If it is an act of INJUSTICE for a merciful and lovely Father to FREELY forgive and save His OWN sinful children, then is it not a GREATER act of INJUSTICE for the same Father to kill and curse the ONLY righteous child among them ?
In fact, the whole story of Christianity can be summarized as follows;
"There is one powerful and merciful Father who killed and cursed His ONLY righteous child simply because He wanted to forgive and save His remaining sinful children: Yet how the remaining sinful children bacame sinful is NOT without His knowledge and power".
Before the advent of Christianity, can anybody in his right sense have just 1% belief in this story ?
But here we have today in our midst, men of knowledge and intellect and particularly professionals who have 100% belief in this story when the same story is repackaged and adorned with attire of religion

On the authority of Holy Qur'an;
1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an 19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth (Qur'an 21:91)
3. Muslims believe in all the miracles Jesus performed during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110)
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an 4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus 2nd coming toward the end of the world.(Qur'an 43:57-61)
However, on the issue of Jesus crucifixion, this is what the Qur'an says;

That they ( i:e the Jews) said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God";- but they KILL HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with NO CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not (Qur'an 4:157)".
But is it really true that those who reported the events of the crucifixion are full of doubts with NO CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE?
Let us consider the following questions
Question 1; When was Jesus exactly crucified ?
-It was at the THIRD HOUR (Mark 15:25 KJV ).
- It was after the SIXTH HOUR (John 19:14-16 KJV)
Question 2; What was the actual colour of the robe given to Jesus when the soldiers were mocking him ?
-It was purple (John 19:2)
-It was scarlet (Matthew 27:28)
Question 3; How did detachment of the troops recognized Jesus before they arrested him ?
- It was through the kissing of Jesus by Judas (Matthew 26:48-49)
-It was Jesus that went out and presented himself to them (John 18:4-9).
Question 4; Who carried the cross of crucifixion to Golgotha ?
-It was Simon of Cyrene (Matthew 27:32 )
- It was Jesus himself (John 19:17)
Question 5; What was the ACTUAL WORD FOR WORD inscription fastened to the Jesus’ Cross ?
-The inscription was : “THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Mark 15:26)
- The inscription was : “THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Matthew 27:37).
- The inscription was : “JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.” ( John 19:19)
These are just only five out of many contradictions abound on the record of events concerning Jesus crucifixion.
Have you now seen the truth in this verse of Qur'an
"and those who differ therein ( i:e on the issue of Jesus crucifixion) are full of doubts, with NO CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE, but only conjecture to follow ( Qur'an 4:157)".
The disciples of Jesus were NOT THE EYE-WITNESSES to the actual happenings of the crucifixion, as declare by the gospel of Mark, "THEY ALL FORSOOK HIM AND FLED( Mark 14:50)". Hence, all the knowledge of the disciples regarding their Master and his alleged crucifixion was from HEARSAY.
Even, if Qur'an did not inform us that Jesus escaped the crucifixion, we can still use the six powerful biblical points explained below to arrive at this very truth;

1. Jesus prayed to God in the garden of Gethsemane in THREE DIFFERENT CONSECUTIVES TIMES asking for the "cup (i:e the crucifixion)" to be taken away from him;
My Father, if it is possible, MAY THIS CUP BE TAKEN AWAY FROM ME. Yet not as I will, but as you will" (see Matthew 26:36-44)".
Therefore, if God already knew that He would not answer this Jesus' prayer as the Christians use to proclaim, then God must have kept the tongue of Jesus from using the phrase "IF IT IS POSSIBLE" because everything that is reasonable is possible for God. And it is reasonable for God to save Jesus Christ from being crucified by his enemy.
Since God deliberately allowed Jesus to use the Phrase "IF IT IS POSSIBLE" in his prayer for the crucifixion to be taken away from him, then God must have answered Jesus prayer and then he must have escaped the crucifixion because everything that is reasonable is possible for God.
Why would God not answer his prayer when the soul of Jesus was EXCEEDINGLY SORROWFUL EVEN UNTO DEATH (Matthew 26:38) and prayed so earnestly to the extent that his SWEAT WAS LIKE DROPS OF BLOOD falling down to the ground (Luke 22:44). Remember, the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man ( let alone a righteous and beloved prophet of God like Jesus) avails much (James 5:16). Therefore, Jesus must have escaped the crucifixion due to his effectual fervent prayer to God.

However, according to the Christian scholars, God still allowed Jesus to be crucified by his enemy DESPITE ALL HIS BLOOD-SWEATING PRAYER because there is NO OTHER WAY for God to save the children of Adam from eternal damnation except through Jesus crucifixion.
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY for omnipotent and omniscient God ? Does this submission make any sense to you? What about the Old Testament believers like Abraham, Moses and the likes that lived and died before Jesus arrival ?
These Old Testament believers did not have an opportunity of even hearing the name "Jesus" talkless of believing in his alleged crucifixion! Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God (because there is no any biblical verse that says these Old Testament believers were in a certain state of condemnation after their death until the time of Jesus crucifixion).
2. Anyone that is hanged or crucified is accursed by God:
"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, BEING MADE A CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE that is hanged on a tree (Galatians 3:13)". See also Deuteronomy 21:23.
Here we clearly read in the Bible that Jesus would be an accursed person if truly he died on the cross. Yet it is totally against the divine principle for God to put His innocent, righteous and beloved son under His curse for any reason whatsoever.
Matthew 25:41says; "Then he(Jesus) will also say to those on the LEFT HAND, Depart from me, you CURSED, into the everlasting fire, prepared for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS".
As you can see from the verse above: It is only those on the LEFT HAND who belong to the group of the "DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS " that are usually under the CURSE of God. It is impossible for an innocent, righteous and beloved prophet of God like Jesus to be under the SAME CURSE with the devil and his angels because he never did anything wrong or anything against the will of his Father. Therefore, Jesus must have escaped the crucifixion in order not to become an "accursed son of God" or "accursed prophet" or "accursed messiah".
3. Jesus was not sent to the entire world to die for our sins. He was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24).
If Jesus was really sent to the entire world to die for both the Israelites and the Gentiles, then why did he have to tell that Canaanite woman that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:21-24) ? Even if it was according to the divine plan that Jesus and his apostles would first minister to the Israelites BEFORE the Gentiles, then Jesus' statement directed to that woman should have been: "IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES" or something similar in meaning rather than “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. Why did Jesus have to say he was sent only to the Israelites if he was truly sent to the entire world to die on the cross for our sins ? This single fact alone is enough to prove that Jesus must have escaped the crucifixion since he was not sent to the entire world but ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.

4. The sins of the sinners CANNOT be laid upon the righteous;
The soul that sinned, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father; neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL BE UPON HIM AND THE WICKEDNESS OF THE WICKED SHALL BE UPON HIM" (Ezekiel 18:20). Remember, this verse completely NULLIFY the main christian ideology which says : "the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon the righteous (i:e all the sin of sinners shall be laid upon Jesus Christ-2 Corinthians 5:21, 1Peter 2:24, Hebrew 9:28)".
One important question need to be answered;
If the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him (as the verse above declare) and NOT upon the righteous (as the Christians use to claim), then how can the wicked be saved and not die as a result of his wickedness ?
Again, the book of Ezekiel answer this question;
"Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then TURN FROM THEIR SINS and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live (Ezekiel 33:10-16)".
Have you now seen that there is no need for the righteous to bear the sins of the sinners before the sinners can be saved and lived. The sinners can simply atone for their sins by REPENTANCE.
Jesus confirmed this truth when he said; I came not to call the righteous, but SINNERS TO REPENTANCE (Luke 5:32).

5. The death of Jesus on the cross is NOT neccessary; Old testament believers were able to gain salvation without Jesus crucifixion.
God can decide to forgive our sins and earn our salvation through SINCERE REPENTANCE (see Ezekiel 33:10-16 quoted above) coupled with ANNUAL ANIMAL SACRIFICE ;
"He is to lay both hands on the head of the live GOAT and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—ALL THEIR SINS—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the GOAT away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The GOAT will carry on itself ALL THEIR SINS to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness....... .. Then, before the Lord, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS (Leviticus 16:21-30)"
Here we read in the last verse ; “Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS” (Leviticus 16:30). Yet the new Testament proclaimed that; " It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to TAKE AWAY SINS (Hebrew 10:4)". This is a flat contradiction. Is there any difference between "CLEAN FROM ALL SINS" and "TAKE AWAY SINS" ?
The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that the phrase "TAKE AWAY SINS" in Hebrews 10:4 implies "complete removal of humanity sinful nature" and NOT refering to "cleanliness from already committed sins". However, complete removal of humanity sinful nature is impossible as NOBODY can be completely FREE from committing sins (see 1 John1:8-10).
Therefore, Hebrew 10:4 is a great lie deliberately fabricated by Paul to weaken the atonement of sins through animal sacrifice and then justify atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion.
Therefore, if the main purpose of Jesus crucifixion is to achieve forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins, then the death of Jesus on the cross IS NOT NECCESSARY; IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY as claimed by the Christian scholars. God can decide to forgive our sins through sincere repentance or through animal sacrifice as He has done with the Old testament believers that lived and died before Jesus arrival.
Some Christians might want to argue that Jesus crucifixion make us entitle to many spiritual benefits that GO BEYOND forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins. But no matter how numerous the spiritual benefits that can be derived from Jesus crucifixion, there is no way for such benefits to be ACTUALIZED in the life of the Old Testament believers (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because they have lived and died before Jesus arrival talkless of his supposed crucifixion. Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God (because there is no any biblical verse that says these Old Testament believers were in a certain state of condemnation after their death until the time of Jesus crucifixion). So if these old testament believers, who happened to be among the children of Adam, were able to gain their salvation without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for the other children of Adam to gain their salvation WITHOUT Jesus crucifixion.

6. The act of crucifying one human being (Jesus ) to save the humanity from one problem or the other is nothing but human sacrifice. Yet God Almighty hates human sacrifice (see Deuteronomy 12:31 and Leviticus 18:21 ).
If, according to the Christians, God Almighty can carry out human sacrifice, then what is the difference between Christianity and traditional African religions which also support human sacrifice? Is there any difference between the two ? As Jesus was not willing to die (see the first reason above) so also the victims of the traditional African religions are not willing to die.
Paul declare as follows; "I do not frustrate the GRACE OF GOD for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is DEAD IN VAIN (Galatians 2:21)".
So according to Paul “human sacrifice” is the grace of God. Yet the same Christians, who agree that Paul is right in his claim, would continue to condemn traditional Africa religions for engaging in human sacrifice. Why the double standard since “human sacrifice” is “human sacrifice” ?

WAS JESUS REALLY CRUCIFIED ?
The Holy Quran replies and the choice is yours: “they KILL HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM ( Holy Quran 4:157)".
Now let us assume that Jesus crucifixion is true. Do you think Muslims are deserve to be condemned by God on the last day simply because they fail to believe in Jesus crucifixion despite all their five beliefs (cited at the begining) concerning Jesus christ? To answer this question, let suppose the following conversation take place between God Almighty and the muslims on the day of Judgement on the assumption that Jesus crucifixion is true
God: O you muslims why did you refuse to believe in Jesus crucifixion ?
Muslims : O Lord our God and creator, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus as Your mighty prophet who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. Qur'an also make us to believe in all the miracles that Jesus performed during his earthly ministry. Furthermore, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus'ascension to heaven and that he is coming back toward the end of the world. So it is also written in the same Qur'an that Jesus was not crucified.
God; Yes, your Qur'an is true regarding all those things it mentioned concerning Jesus. But why are you so sure that your Qur'an did not get it wrong on the issue of Jesus crucifixion ?
Muslims: O Lord our God and Creator, the reason why we believe that Qur'an is also true on the issue of Jesus crucifixion is because Bible also declare that anyone that is crucified is accursed by God (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) and it is is not possible for You as a God of love, mercy and justice to put your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet under Your curse. From the logical reasoning you gave to us as human being, we were able to deduce that only the devils and his followers are deserved to be under Your curse: NOT Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet like Jesus christ, who never did anything against Your Will. You are naturally known to always BLESS Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophets and never to CURSE any one of them.
Please do you think God Almighty can still have an evidence against the Muslims concerning the issue of Jesus crucifixion base on this reasonable reply ?
Consequently, even if Jesus crucifixion is true, Muslims CANNOT BE CONDEMNED by God for not believing in it; they CANNOT BE PERISHED. Yet Paul wrote in his epistle:
"the message of the cross ( i:e Jesus crucifixion) is foolishness to those who are PERISHING (1st Corinthians 1:18)".
See how Paul got it wrong!
Jesus crucifixion is one of the FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS of the present day Christianity . You will notice that the symbol of "CROSS" used to represent Christianity stands for Jesus crucifixion. In otherwords, if there is no Jesus crucifixion, then there is no Christianity.
Hence, if the ONLY true faith from God is Christianity, then being one of the foundational pillars of Christianity, NOBODY MUST HAVE A STRONG AND REASONABLE EXCUSE for not believing in Jesus crucifixion . However, as we have shown above, Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, the ONLY true faith from God is NOT Christianity. And if the ONLY true faith from God is not Christianity, then Christianity must be a FALSE faith.
Being a false faith, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with Christianity. Therefore, if the Christians really love Jesus Christ and they do not want to lose him completely, they must embrace Islam. This is because apart from Christianity, Islam is the only faith on earth that make believing in Jesus and all other biblical prophets as one of the basic and most fundamental article of its faith.
Please for the sake of God, if you disagree with me, then resolve the contradictions on the events of crucifixion cited above and respond to each of the SIX points without using àny abusive words.

1ST premise: Jesus was accursed if he was really hanged or crucified
"........BEING MADE A CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE that is hanged on a tree (Galatians 3:13)".


2ND premise: Muslims have strong and genuine excuse for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. let assume the following conversations btw God and the Muslims take place on the last day.

God; Yes, your Qur'an is true regarding all those things it mentioned concerning Jesus. But why are you so sure that your Qur'an did not get it wrong on the issue of Jesus crucifixion ?


Muslims: O Lord our God and Creator, the reason why we believe that Qur'an is also true on the issue of Jesus crucifixion is because Bible also declare that anyone that is hanged i:e crucified is accursed by God (Galatians 3:13) and it is is not possible for You as a God of love, mercy and justice to put your innocent and beloved prophet under Your curse. From the logical reasoning you gave to us as human being, we realized that only the devils and his followers are deserved to be under your curse: NOT Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet like Jesus Christ, who never did anything against Your Will. You are naturally known to always BLESS Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophets and never to CURSE any one of them.


3RD premise: "If the ONLY true faith from God is Christianity, then being one of the foundational pillars of Christianity, NOBODY MUST HAVE A STRONG AND REASONABLE EXCUSE for not believing in Jesus crucifixion


4TH premise: However, as we have shown above in the second premise, Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, the ONLY true faith from God is NOT Christianity. And if the ONLY true faith from God is not Christianity, then Christianity must be a FALSE faith. Being a false faith, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with Christianity.

PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF GOD, which out of all these four premises is wrong and not true. ?

All these hadiths you relied upon to rubbish Islam are nothing but words of human beings which are liable to commit error. They are not divine word of God coming directly from His mouth. There are strong hadiths as well as weak and fabricated hadiths which are attributed falsely to the prophet. So they are not strong enough for you to reject Islam and prefer the religion of a Merciful and Powerful Father who KILLED AND CURSED HIS ONLY RIGHTEOUS CHILD SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FORGIVE AND SAVE HIS REMAINING SINFUL CHILDREN; YET HOW HIS REMAINING SINFUL CHILDREN BECAME SINFUL IS NOT WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE AND POWER.

Qur'an 4:157 declare ; "He(Jesus) was neither killed nor crucified" .

Here is six powerful biblical reasons why Qur'an must be true regarding Jesus crucifixion.

1. Jesus prayed to God in the garden of Gethsemane in THREE different consecutive times asking for the "cup (i:e the crucifixion)" to be taken away from him;
“My Father, if it is possible, MAY THIS CUP BE TAKEN AWAY FROM ME. Yet not as I will, but as you will" (see Matthew 26:36-44)".
Jesus said; "IF IT IS POSSIBLE". YET EVERYTHING, THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE, IS POSSIBLE FOR GOD . And it is not unreasonable for God to save Jesus Christ from being crucified by his enemy.
Therefore, if God already knew that he would not answer this Jesus' prayer, then God must have kept the tongue of Jesus from using the phrase "IF IT IS POSSIBLE" because everything that is not unreasonable is possible for God. Since God debilerately allowed Jesus to use the Phrase "IF IT IS POSSIBLE" in his prayer for the crucifixion to be taken away from him, then God must have answered Jesus prayer and then he must have escaped the crucifixion because everything that is reasonable is possible for God.
Why would God not answer his prayer when Jesus prayed so earnestly to the extent that the SWEAT of Jesus was like DROPS OF BLOOD falling down to the ground (Luke 22:44). Remember, the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man ( let alone a righteous and beloved prophet of God like Jesus) avails much (James 5:16).
However, according to the Christian scholars, God still allowed Jesus to be crucified by his enemy DESPITE ALL HIS BLOOD-SWEATING PRAYER because there is NO OTHER WAY for God to save the children of Adam from eternal damnation except through Jesus crucifixion. Does this submission make any sense to you? THERE IS NO OTHER WAY for God Almighty ? Honestly, this is one of the greatest blasphemy against God and insult to the precious intelligence of man! If God is All-powerful and All-knowing Creator, why must He be compelled to follow one particular way- especially a way that will later require Him to KILL and CURSE (see the 2nd point below) His only begotten son . Is that how an innocent, righteous and beloved son should be treated by his merciful and lovely Father ?
If it is an act of INJUSTICE for a merciful and lovely Father to FREELY forgive and save His OWN sinful children, then is it not a GREATER act of INJUSTICE for the same Father to kill and curse the ONLY righteous child among them ?
In fact, the whole message of Christianity can be summarized as follows;
"There is one powerful and merciful Father who killed and cursed His ONLY righteous child simply because He wanted to forgive and save His remaining sinful children: Yet how the remaining children bacame sinful is NOT without His knowledge and power".
Before the advent of Christianity, can anybody in his right sense have just 1% belief in this story ?
But here we have today in our midst, men of knowledge and intellect who have 100% belief in this story when the same story is repackaged and adorned with attire of religion.

2. Anyone that is hanged or crucified is accursed by God: "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, BEING MADE A CURSE for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE that is hanged on a tree (Galatians 3:13)". See also Deuteronomy 21:23.
Yet it is totally against the divine principle for God to put His innocent, righteous and beloved son (or prophet) under His curse for any reason whatsoever.
Matthew 25:41says; "Then he(Jesus) will also say to those on the LEFT HAND, Depart from me, you CURSED, into the everlasting fire, prepared for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS".
As you can see from the verse above: It is only those on the LEFT HAND who belong to the group of the "DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS " that are usually under the CURSE of God. It is impossible for an innocent, righteous and beloved prophet of God like Jesus to be under the SAME CURSE with the devil and his angels because he never did anything wrong or anything against the will of his Father. Therefore, Jesus must escape the crucifixion in order not to become an "accursed son of God" or "accursed prophet" or "accursed messiah".
3. Jesus was not sent to the entire world to die for our sins. He was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24).
if it was already in the divine plan that JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES WOULD PREACH TO THE JEWS FIRST AND THEN TO ALL THE GENTILES, then Jesus' statement directed to that Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:24 should have been: IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES or something similar in meaning rather than “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. Why did Jesus have to say such a statement if he was truly sent to the entire world to die on the cross for our sins ?

4. The sins of the sinners CANNOT be laid upon the righteous; "The soul that sinned, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father; neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE RIGHTEOUS shall be upon him, and the WICKEDNESS OF THE WICKED shall be upon him" (Ezekiel 18:20). Remember, this verse completely NULLIFY the main christian ideology which says : "the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon the righteous (i:e all the sin of sinners shall be laid upon Jesus Christ-2 Corinthians 5:21, 1Peter 2:24, Hebrew 9:28)".
One important question need to be answered;
If the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him(as the verse above declare) and NOT upon the righteous (as the Christians use to claim), then how can the wicked be saved and not die as a result of his wickedness ?
Again, the book of Ezekiel answer this question;
"Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then TURN FROM THEIR SINS and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live (Ezekiel 33:10-16)". Have you now seen that there is no need for the righteous to bear the sins of the sinners before the sinners can be saved and lived. The sinners can simply atone for their sins by REPENTANCE.
Jesus confirmed this truth when he said; I came not to call the righteous, but SINNERS TO REPENTANCE (Luke 5:32).
If Jesus has actually come to die for the sinners, he would have mentioned it in this verse since he was talking about the purpose of his coming WITH RESPECT TO THE SINNERS.

5. The death of Jesus on the cross is NOT neccessary: God can decide to forgive our sins and earn our salvation through SINCERE REPENTANCE (see Ezekiel 33:10-16 quoted above) coupled with ANNUAL ANIMAL SACRIFICE ;
"He is to lay both hands on the head of the live GOAT and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—ALL THEIR SINS—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the GOAT away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The GOAT will carry on itself ALL THEIR SINS to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness....... .. Then, before the Lord, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS (Leviticus 16:21-30)"
Here we read in the last verse ; “Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS” (Leviticus 16:30). Yet the new Testament proclaimed that; " It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to TAKE AWAY SINS (Hebrew 10:4)". This is a flat contradiction. Is there any difference between "CLEAN FROM ALL SINS" and "TAKE AWAY SINS" ?
The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that the phrase "TAKE AWAY SINS" in Hebrews 10:4 implies "complete removal of humanity sinful nature" and NOT refering to "cleanliness from already committed sins". However, complete removal of humanity sinful nature is impossible as NOBODY can be completely FREE from committing sins (see 1 John1:8-10).
Therefore, Hebrew 10:4 is a great lie deliberately fabricated by Paul to weaken the atonement of sins through animal sacrifice and then justify atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion.
Therefore, if the main purpose of Jesus crucifixion is to achieve forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins, then the death of Jesus on the cross IS NOT NECCESSARY; IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY as claimed by the Christian scholars. God can decide to forgive our sins through sincere repentance or through animal sacrifice as He has done with the Old testament believers that lived and died before Jesus arrival.
Some Christians might want to argue that Jesus crucifixion make us entitle to many spiritual benefits that GO BEYOND forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins. But no matter how numerous the spiritual benefits that can be derived from Jesus crucifixion, there is no way for such benefits to be ACTUALIZED in the life of the Old Testament believers (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because they have lived and died before Jesus arrival talkless of his supposed crucifixion. Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God (because there is no any biblical verse that says these Old Testament believers were in a certain state of condemnation after their death until the time of Jesus crucifixion). So if these old testament believers, who happened to be among the children of Adam, were able to gain their salvation without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for the other children of Adam to gain their salvation WITHOUT Jesus crucifixion.

6. The act of crucifying one human being (Jesus ) to save the humanity from one problem or the other is nothing but human sacrifice. Yet God Almighty hates human sacrifice (see Deuteronomy 12:31 and Leviticus 18:21 ).
If, according to the Christians, God Almighty can carry out human sacrifice, then what is the difference between Christianity and traditional African religions which also support human sacrifice? Is there any difference between the two ? As Jesus was not willing to die (see the first reason above) so also the victims of the traditional African religions are not willing to die.
Paul declare as follows; "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain (Galatians 2:21)".
So according to Paul “human sacrifice” is the grace of God. Yet the same Christians, who agree that Paul is right in his claim, would continue to condemn traditional Africa religions for engaging in human sacrifice. Why the double standard since “human sacrifice” is “human sacrifice” ?

WAS JESUS REALLY CRUCIFIED ?
The Holy Quran replies and the choice is yours: “He (Jesus) was neither killed nor crucified” (Holy Quran 4:157).
1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an 19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth(Qur'an 21:91)
3. Muslims believe in all the miracles Jesus performed during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110)
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an 4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus 2nd coming toward the end of the world.(Qur'an 43:57-61)
Now let us assume that Jesus crucifixion is true. Do you think Muslims are deserve to be condemned by God on the last day simply because they fail to believe in Jesus crucifixion despite all those five beliefs they have concerning Jesus christ ? To answer this question, let suppose the following conversation take place between God Almighty and the muslims on the day of Judgement on the assumption that Jesus crucifixion is true
God: O you muslims why did you refuse to believe in Jesus crucifixion ?
Muslims : O Lord our God and creator, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus as Your mighty prophet who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. Qur'an also make us to believe in all the miracles that Jesus performed during his earthly ministry. Furthermore, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus'ascension to heaven and that he is coming back toward the end of the world. So it is also written in the same Qur'an that Jesus was not crucified.
God; Yes, your Qur'an is true regarding all those things it mentioned concerning Jesus. But why are you so sure that your Qur'an did not get it wrong on the issue of Jesus crucifixion ?
Muslims: O Lord our God and Creator, the reason why we believe that Qur'an is also true on the issue of Jesus crucifixion is because Bible also declare that anyone that is crucified is accursed by God (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) and it is is not possible for You as a God of love, mercy and justice to put your innocent and beloved prophet under Your curse. From the logical reasoning you gave to us as human being, we realized that only the devils and his followers are deserved to be under your curse: NOT your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet like Jesus christ, who never did anything against Your Will. You are naturally known to always BLESS Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophets and never to CURSE any one of them.
Please do you think God Almighty can still have an evidence against the Muslims concerning the issue of Jesus crucifixion base on this reasonable reply ?
Consequently, even if Jesus crucifixion is true, Muslims CANNOT BE CONDEMNED by God for not believing in it. Yet Paul wrote in his epistle: the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are PERISHING (1st Corinthians 1:18). See how Paul got it wrong!
Jesus crucifixion is one of the FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS of the present day Christianity . You will notice that the symbol of "CROSS" used to represent Christianity stands for Jesus crucifixion. In otherwords, if there is no Jesus crucifixion, then there is no Christianity. Hence, if the ONLY true faith from God is Christianity, then NOBODY MUST HAVE A STRONG AND REASONABLE EXCUSE for not believing in Jesus crucifixion . However, as we have shown above, Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, the ONLY true faith from God is NOT Christianity. Hence, Christianity must be a FALSE faith because Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse to tender before God for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Yet crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most important PILLARS of Christianity; Without it there is no Christianity.

MR TATIME, so all those dirty nonsense are meant to compose a beautiful and romantic poems for your wives? what of the young children who are yet to marry? Does it even make sense that when you read the word of God, you begin to feel erotic and started thinking about sex? Read the below and see how the so-called word of God declare that women's vaginal taste like wine.

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like
a brother, who was nursed at my mother's
breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss
you, and no one would despise me. I would lead
you and bring you to my mother's house-- she
who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine
to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of
my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head
and his right arm embraces me." Can we call these dirty nonsense a word of God or Gospel of Porn?

Why are you so concerned about the Jesus' miracle of creating a bird from clay by God's permission, something that is not even mentioned in the Bible. Miracle is a work of God. So how does this Jesus'miracle demonstrate that Jesus is our immediate creator? If scientists create a test-tube babies in a laboratory through the permission of God, have they become our creator? So what is your point?
How could you have believed that the entire Bible was inspired by God when the word "Bible" is not even present inside the Bible. We have never seen a book without a name given to it by Its original author. If the entire Bible is really inspired by God, then God Himself shld have named it Bible. Please read the following pornography in the so-called word of God;

“How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince’s daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels , the work of a craftsman’s hands. Your navel is a
rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your
eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.…….
I said ‘I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.’ May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine , the fragrance of your breath like
apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)”

1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well
advanced in years, he could not keep warm even
when they put covers over him. So his servants
said to him, 'Let us look for a young virgin to
attend the king and take care of him. She can lie
beside him so that our lord the king may keep
warm.' Then they searched throughout Israel for a
beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite,
and brought her to the king . The girl was very
beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on
him, but the king had no intimate relations with
her." Is the Bible a porn-full man made book? or
is it an inspired Divine Book from GOD Almighty?
Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring
him a young virgin so he can sleep with her
without marriage?
What moral lesson do you want the young children to learn from all these pornography? We keep telling you that Bible is the MIXTURE of word of men and word of God, but you refuse to accept this fact. Do you think God Almighty will allow His final message to humanity to be enclosed under the same cover with all these dirty nonsense?

“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But, behold, the FALSE PEN of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8

George Bernard Shaw Said “THE MOST DANGEROUS BOOK ON EARTH “(the Bible), KEEP IT UNDER LOCK AND KEY.” Keep the Bible out of your children’s reach. ‘’
I challenge any Christian to produce ONE, JUST ONE Noble Verse from the Muslims’ Quran that Praises and Glorifies pornography .
May God Almighty remove the veil of satan from your two eyes so that you can see the light of truth in Islam and darkness of falsehood in christianity.

Mr TATIME, You get it wrong. Bible says it is appointed for a man to die once. Those before Jesus cannot come back again to this world

All these terms; BY MYSELF, WHO WAS WITH ME?, BY MY OWN HANDS, ALL ALONE are enough to convince us that God created the heavens and the earth without the assistance of anybody.
For no one creates a
building project without first expressing his
thoughts in a detailed plan (a blueprint). In like
manner, God first created His Heavenly blueprint
for all of His creation, including His foreknown
plan for the ages of human history, before He
commenced His actual creation in the Genesis
narrative.So Proverb 8:22-30 is only a personification of the heavenly blue print that God used in His creation. This biblical passage is not talking about how God used Jesus as agent of His creation. Otherwise, the biblical passage will contradicts all the terms mentioned above.

Mr TATIME, Honestly I liked the way you address the issues of faith. But I want you to read the following write up carefully and you will see the GREATEST REASON why God would never delegate the creation of heavens and earth to Jesus Christ.

All Christian denominations including the Jehovah witnesses believe that God created everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . That God created everything THROUGH Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only found in the books written by Paul and John;
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and for him ( Colossians 1:16).
THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3)
But is it really true that God assigned the creation of things, including the heavens and earth, to Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say about this matter ;
"This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth BY MYSELF (WHO WAS WITH ME ?) (Isaiah 44:24 KJV, NWT)
"MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth, and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together. (Isaiah 48:13)".
It is I who made the earth and created mankind on it. MY OWN HANDS stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts (Isaiah 45:12)
"For My HAND made all these things, Thus all these things came into being," declares the LORD ( Isaiah 66:2)
As you can see from above, Paul and John proclaimed that God delegated the creation of all things to Jesus Christ. But God Almighty declare that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY HIMSELF, BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we want God to use before we can believe that He created the heavens and the earth without the assistance of anybody ? If a man hires a contractor as his agent to build a house, could the man say that he built the house “ALL ALONE” and "BY HIS OWN HANDS" without lying? So could God Almighty have lied about creating the heavens and the earth by His own hands while He actually used another distinct person as His agent to actually do the creation for Him?
Besides, who want to know or care that one true God exist if not for His act of creation? The only reason why we label all the idols as " false gods" is because they did not create anything and that is the reason they do not deserve our worship. Therefore, it is quite true that all the worship and glorification we give to God originate from the fact of being the Creator of all things . In other words, the STRONGEST REASON why God deserve our worship, praises and glory is because He was the one that created us and all other things that exist (See Psalm 95:6, 96:4-5, 139:14, Revelation 4:11, 14:7). Does it now make sense to believe that God assigned the creation of all things to another person given that it is through that very act of creation He deserve our worship and through it we acknowledge His existence ? Hence, if Christians rely heavily on the words of Paul and John or any other person and therefore insist that God assigned the creation of all things to Jesus Christ, then Jesus deserve their worship because the reasonable response of the creature is to worship their Creator. Yet, only God deserve to be worship. This is exactly the reason why God would never delegate the creation of things to any other person other than Himself as He clearly stated above: "BY MYSELF( Isaiah 44:24)". In fact, the question at the end of Isaiah 44:24 quoted above - "WHO WAS WITH ME ?" present in some versions of the Bible (including NWT Bible of Jehovah's witnesses) is an indisputable evidence that God did not employ the service of anybody during the creation of the heavens and the earth ! But sadly enough, the Christians even the Jehovah witnesses still prefer those fallible words of men (which they believe to be inspired by God) to those infallible words of God that came DIRECTLY from God's mouth. Is this not the high time for the Christians to question their belief that the whole of the Bible is an inspired word of God? Here we can see how Paul and John contradict God Almighty on the issue of creation; a very important matter

I cannot choose Jesus because of the fflwing fact
THE TRUE MISSION OF JESUS CHRIST(peace be upon him)
Let us consider the passage written below;
Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. A CANAANITE woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.” Jesus DID NOT ANSWER her a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” He answered, “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.” The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. He replied, “IT IS NOT RIGHT TO TAKE THE CHILDREN'S BREAD AND TOSS IT TO THE DOGS. “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.(Matthew 15:21-28)

If Jesus (pbuh) was actually the last prophet of God sent to the entire world to die for our sins, then why did he have to say: I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 15:24)? Why did he have to tell the woman that IT IS NOT RIGHT TO TAKE WHAT IS MEANT ONLY FOR THE JEWS (THE CHILDREN'S BREAD) AND GIVE IT TO THE GENTILES (THE DOGS)? Furthermore, when Jesus (pbuh) was sending out his apostles for evangelical mission, he also warned them categorically to avoid preaching to the Gentiles i:e the Non-Israelites:THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT OUT WITH THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS; “DO NOT GO AMONG THE GENTILES OR ENTER ANY TOWN OF THE SAMARITANS. GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 10:5-6). This further corroborates the fact that Jesus was sent ONLY to the Israelites.
However, many of the Christians believe that this command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" was later cancelled and replaced by the new command of preaching to all the nations just BEFORE Jesus ascended to heaven:
1. Matthew 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
2. Mark 16.15; “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”
3. Acts 1.8 ; "and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
4. Luke 24.47; “that repentance for forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.”
Therefore, it seems from these four verses that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
But was it REALLY TRUE that the original apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD ? Let see what happened between Peter and one influential man called Cornelius. This very incident, which occurred many years AFTER Jesus' departure, goes thus:
"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!” Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked. The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.” When the angel who spoke to him had gone, Cornelius called two of his servants and a devout soldier who was one of his attendants. He told them everything that had happened and sent them to Joppa. About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the VISION, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate. They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there. While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them.” Peter went down and said to the men, “I’m the one you’re looking for. Why have you come?” The men replied, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to ask you to come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.” Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests. The next day Peter started out with them, and some of the believers from Joppa went along.The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.” While talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. He said to them ; "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN. So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me? (Acts 10:1-29 NIV)"
Remember: it seems from those four verses cited above that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. If this is true, then why did Peter have to say : "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" ? Was Peter NOT aware that they were now FREE to visit the gentiles and preach the gospel to all the nations of the world?
Some of the Christians argued that the reason why Peter said: "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" is because he has forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world. But if this is true, then why did remaining Jewish believers in Christ criticize Peter on the SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES on his return to Jerusalem as the following passage revealed ? Have they also forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world? Read the passage below
Acts 11 New Living Translation (NLT)
"Soon the news reached the apostles and other believers in Judea that the Gentiles had received the word of God. But when Peter arrived back in Jerusalem, THE JEWISH BELIEVERS CRITICIZED HIM. “YOU ENTERED THE HOME OF THE GENTILES AND EVEN ATE WITH THEM!” they said (Acts 11:1-3 NLT).
If the other Jewish believers in Christ did not criticize Peter on his arrival to Jerusalem ON THE SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES as shown above, then we may think that it was Peter that was saying nonsense when he said "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. (Acts 10:28).
The second part of the Peter's statement "BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN (Acts 10:28) is only referring to the "VISION" he experienced just before the arrival of the men sent by Cornelius . The statement has NOTHING to do with the so-called Jesus' new command of preaching to all the nations of the world .
Again see the reaction of these Jewish believers in Christ when Peter finished the narration of his Vision; "When they heard this, they had NO FURTHER OBJECTIONS and praised God, saying, "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES, God has granted repentance that leads to life.(Acts 11:18 NIV). Please see the astonishment of these Jewish believers in Christ ; "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES" .
If they have already aware about the Jesus'new command of Preaching to all the Gentile nations in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47, and Acts 1:8, then WHY ALL THIS ASTONISHMENT?
Again, some Christians want to argue that the reason why Peter said:"YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE(Acts 10:28)" is because Peter and other apostles find it difficult to discard the Jewish custom of not associating and visiting the Gentiles. However,the fact that Peter responded positively to that VISION and departed with those gentiles on the following day is an evidence that he never find it difficult to discard this Jewish custom. Again, it is not possible for the apostles and disciples of Jesus to give PREFERENCE for mere Jewish custom OVER a great and important command from their Master.
What actually preventing them was the command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" in Matthew 10:5-6 and the fact that Jesus told them CATEGORICALLY that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel( Matthew15:24).
Do you think Peter would follow those gentiles to meet Cornelius if not because of the Spirit that commanded him not to hesitate to go with them; "While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them(Acts 10:19-20)”.
From all these facts, it can be deduced that even if there is a record that Peter and other apostles preach to another Gentile apart from Cornelius and his households, then what "PERMIT" them to do this was the VISION that Peter experienced. It is DEFINITELY NOT the new command of preaching to all the nations of the world attributed FALSELY to Jesus in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8. Otherwise, the story of events between Peter and Cornelius (Acts 10:1-28) and also between Peter and other Jewish believers in Christ (Acts 11:1-18) are NOT TRUE.
God Almighty allowed the story of events between "Peter and Cornelius" and also between "Peter and the remaining Jewish believers" to be kept till today so that the evidence of the FORGERY behind Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8 can be clearly seen by every diligent reader of the Bible.
Infact, the evidence for this FORGERY can also be inferred from Jesus' original statement; "I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24)" using the following illustration;
Suppose you are being asked to distribute a packet of sweet to some children in your vicinity WITH AN INSTRUCTION TO START WITH THE MALE CHILDREN BEFORE THE FEMALE. Now one of the female children approaches you for the collection of her own sweet. Please before God and man would you say; " I WAS ONLY ASKED TO GIVE THE MALE" ? Of course, you would not utter such kind of statement. You would definitely say "IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE FEMALE" or "WAIT FOR YOU TURN".
Similarly, if it was already in the divine plan that JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES WOULD PREACH TO THE JEWS FIRST AND THEN TO ALL THE GENTILES, then Jesus' statement directed to that Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:24 should have been: IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES or something similar in meaning rather than “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. Why did Jesus have to say such a statement if he was truly sent to the entire world to die for our sins ?
There is NO ANY VERSE in the Qur'an which says Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) or his companions were sent ONLY to the Arabs. But see how the Bible categorically declared that Jesus (pbuh) was sent ONLY to the Israelites; I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL ( Matthew 15:24) and see how Qur’an declared that Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to ALL MANKIND; " AND WE HAVE NOT SENT YOU (O Muhammad-pbuh) EXCEPT AS A GIVER OF GLAD TIDINGS AND AS A WARNER TO ALL MANKIND (Qur’an 34:28)". If God Almighty bring these two verses ( Matthew 15:24 and Qur'an 34:28) infront of you on the day of Judgement, do you have any excuse to tender before Him? I have already conveyed the message to all sincere seekers of truth. It is now left for you to decide.

Sorry Jesus did not die for my sins base on the following facts:
All the Christian denominations including the Jehovah witnesses believe that Jesus suffer and died for our sins on the cross ( or on the stake). But what is the actual meaning of the statement: "Jesus suffer and died for our sins" ? The meaning of this statement can only be understood in two ways. It is either Jesus suffer and died on the cross so that we can have access to divine forgiveness for our sins- OR-Jesus suffer and died on the cross to remove our sinful nature so that we can have immunity against committing sins. However, complete removal of humanity sinful nature is impossible as nobody can be completely free from committing minor sins. Bible also attests to this fact;
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us( 1John 1:8-10).
Therefore, the statement: "Jesus suffer and died for our sins" can only have a conceivable meaning if Jesus suffer and died on the cross so that we can have access to divine forgiveness for our sins.
But why MUST Jesus suffer and die on the cross before God can forgive our sins? If it is an act of injustice for God to FREELY forgive our sins, then is it not a GREATER ACT OF INJUSTICE for God to condemn an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he did not commit ?
Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How then are we to conceive a merciful and omnipotent God putting His BELOVED prophet under His CURSE when God of course knew that Jesus never did anything wrong?
If God is All-powerful and All-knowing Creator which ( therefore) cannot be compelled to follow one particular way, then He must have chosen at least one rational way to forgive our sins and earn our salvation . God Almighty must have set aside any irrational way that will later require Him to curse and condemn His innocent and beloved prophet for something that can be achieved through another means. Yes, one of the rational means which God has chosen to forgive our sins and earn our salvation is SINCERE REPENTANCE from our sinful acts : “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then TURN FROM THEIR SINS and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live (Ezekiel 33:10-16)" . Did God ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven (or before they can live) in all these verses? What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Qur'an also pass the same message: O you who believe! Turn to Allah with SINCERE REPENTANCE! It may be that your Lord will REMIT FROM YOU YOUR SINS, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow (Qur'an 66:7-9)
Another rational way that God has chosen in the past for the people to achieve divine forgiveness of sins is through animal sacrifice. Leviticus 16:21-30 says as follow: "the GOAT will carry on itself ALL THE SINS of Israelites to a remote place and the man shall release the goat in the wilderness..... Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS”. Please is there any indication in these verses that the sins of Israelites were only "cover" and not completely taken away? God says; “Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS”. Yet the New Testament proclaimed that it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sin (Hebrew 10:4). This is another great lie that was fabricated to justify the doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion.
If God can truly atone for our sins through animal sacrifice as the verses in the book of Leviticus quoted above affirm, then is there any need again for God to shed the blood of innocent human being on the cross ?
Therefore, if divine forgiveness for our sins is what we really need to gain eternal life, then the death of Jesus on the cross IS NOT NECCESSARY; God can decide to forgive our sins through sincere repentance or through animal sacrifice as He has done with the people that lived and died before Jesus arrival. These two ways are far more better than that irrational way which will later require God Almighty to condemn and curse His innocent and beloved prophet for something that can be acheived through another rational means.
Some Christians might want to argue that Jesus crucifixion make them entitle to many spiritual benefits that GO BEYOND achieving divine forgiveness for our sins. But no matter how numerous the spiritual benefits that can be derived from Jesus crucifixion, there is no way for such benefits to be ACTUALIZED in the life of the Old Testament believers (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because they have lived and died before Jesus arrival talkless of his supposed crucifixion. Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God (because there is no any biblical verse that says these Old Testament believers were in a certain state of condemnation after their death until the time of Jesus crucifixion). So if these old testament believers, who happened to be among the children of Adam, were able to gain their salvation without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for the other children of Adam to gain their salvation without Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, the Christian doctrine which says that: "All powerful and All merciful God must condemn and curse His innocent and beloved son on the cross before the children of Adam can earn their salvation" is far from the truth.
God may allow His innocent and beloved prophet to suffer (i:e TO BE PHYSICALLY CONDEMNED) for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" ( i:e SPIRITUALLY CONDEMN) His innocent and beloved prophet for any reason whatsover. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44.

Mr TATIME, Pls get me clear; both of you (Trinitarian Christians and JWs) accuse each other for the wrong believe you have in Jesus and you fail to realize that Bible itself is the main cause of your disputes. If Jesus is not God, why did the Bible call him Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6. If the title "Mighty God" is reserved only for Jesus and not for God the Jehovah, then why did the Bible used the same title "Mighty God" for God the Jehovah in Isaiah 10:21? Have you now seen that the main cause of the Problem is the Bible. I did not believe that Jesus is God but I am only giving you an instance of how the Bible cause the whole problem. Pls read the following


Jesus was praying to the Father and he said;
"And this is eternal life, that they may know You,
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you
have sent (John 17:3)" .
If Jesus himself was referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the "ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ? If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then hopefully the Christians might still want to argue that Jesus is also God just like his Father.However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will continue to shatter the hope of those who want
to believe that Jesus is God. The phrase "THE
ONLY TRUE GOD" used by Jesus in reference to
the Father implies that apart from "THE FATHER",
all other Gods or gods are FALSE. This verse is
the strongest evidence put forward by Jehovah
witnesses to prove that Jesus is not God

2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to
have said “I am ascending to my Father and your
Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is
God Almighty, then which God was he referring to
when he said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God
Almighty have another God? Impossible! But If
Jesus is just another true God different from God
Almighty, then this will imply the existence of two
seperate Gods. Yet there is only one God
according to the Bible(Deuteronomy 6:4).

Jehovah witnesses also believe that God created
everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . They believe
that God did not create anything EXCEPT Jesus.
That is to say: God created Jesus, then it was
Jesus that created all other things including the
heavens and the earth. So according to their
claim, Jesus is the immediate Creator of all
things. That God created everything through (or
by )Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the
Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only
found in the books written by Paul and John;
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from
whom all things came and for whom we live; and
there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH
WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we
live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).
For in him all things were created: things in
heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether
thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL
THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and
for him ( Colossians 1:16).
THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ;
without him nothing was made that has been
made (John 1:3)
But is it really true that God assigned the creation
of things, including the heavens and earth, to
Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say
about this matter ;
"This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and
the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the
LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE
stretched out the heavens, who spread out the
earth BY MYSELF (WHO WAS WITH ME ?) (Isaiah
44:24 KJV, NWT)
"MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth,
and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens;
when I summon them, they all stand up together.
(Isaiah 48:13)".
It is I who made the earth and created mankind
on it. MY OWN HANDS stretched out the heavens;
I marshaled their starry hosts (Isaiah 45:12)
"For My HAND made all these things, Thus all
these things came into being," declares the LORD
( Isaiah 66:2)
As you can see from above, Paul and John
proclaimed that God delegated the creation of all
things to Jesus Christ. But God Almighty declare
that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY
HIMSELF, BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY
WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we want
God to use before we can believe that He created
the heavens and the earth without the assistance
of anybody ? If a man hires a contractor as his
agent to build a house, could the man say that he
built the house “ALL ALONE” and "BY HIS OWN
HANDS" without lying? So could God Almighty
have lied about creating the heavens and the
earth by His own hands while He actually used
another distinct person as His agent to actually
do the creation for Him?
Besides, who want to know or care that one true
God exist if not for His act of creation? The only
reason why we label all the idols as " false gods"
is because they did not create anything and that
is the reason they do not deserve our worship.
Therefore, it is quite true that all the worship and
glorification we give to God originate from the
fact of being the Creator of all things . In other
words, the STRONGEST REASON why God deserve
our worship, praises and glory is because He was
the one that created us and all other things that
exist (See Psalm 95:6, 96:4-5, 139:14, Revelation
4:11, 14:7). Does it now make sense to believe
that God assigned the creation of all things to
another person given that it is through that very
act of creation He deserve our worship and
through it we acknowledge His existence ? Hence,
if Jehovah witnesses and other Christians rely
heavily on the words of Paul and John or any
other person and therefore insist that God
assigned the creation of all things to Jesus
Christ, then Jesus deserve their worship because
the reasonable response of the creature is to
worship their Creator. Yet, only God deserve to be
worship. This is exactly the reason why God
would never delegate the creation of things to any
other person other than Himself as He clearly
stated above: "BY MYSELF( Isaiah 44:24)". In
fact, the question at the end of Isaiah 44:24
quoted above - "WHO WAS WITH ME ?" present
in some versions of the Bible (including NWT Bible
of Jehovah's witnesses) is an indisputable
evidence that God did not employ the service of
anybody during the creation of the heavens and
the earth !

Mr Tatime, pls take your time to understand the main point of my argument. You are a Jehovah witness that believe that Jesus is NOT a true God but you believe that God used Jesus as an agent of His creation. Pls read my first original post to see where you get it wrong on the issue of how God used Jesus to create all other things. Unless you believe that Jesus is a true God( unlike Moses and Pharaoh who are false God), there is NO WAY you can reconcile your doctrine ( which says Jesus is an agent of creation) with Isaiah 44:24, 48:13, 45:12 and 66:2 which say God created the heavens and the earth all alone by His own hands. So my brother the issue of "Jesus is God" is not as simple as you think. The way the Christians believe that Jesus is God is BEYOND the way the Bible takes Moses as God. We all agree that Moses is a false God. But the Christians do not agree that Jesus is false God like Moses. They believe him to be a true God

Mr enilove, honestly,you are yet to get my point of argument. I did not dispute the fact that Jesus is God according to some certain biblical verses.My point is that If Jesus is truly God, then this fact should be maintained throughout. All these verses such as John17:3, John 20:17, Luke 6:12, Mark 10:18, John 14:1, Mark 24:36, John 5:30, John 14:28, etc which tend to prove that Jesus is not God should not be present inside the Bible. The fact that Jehovah witnesses and some other Christians who really believe in the Bible are using these verses to prove that Jesus is not God is an evidence that those verses actually prove that Jesus is not God; not that they only appear to be so. If the non Bible believers are using those verses to prove that Jesus is not God, you may say they lack holy spirit. But this is not the case with JWs and other Christians that believe in the Bible. If Bible is really the word inspired by God, then God must have guided against this confusion. The barrier btw "Jesus is God" and "Jesus is not God" is TOO THIN. The barrier should be very THICK AND STRONG enough to the extent that no Christian should be able to claim that Jesus is not God, if truly Jesus is God. But this is not so. For example, Qur'an make the barrier between " Muhammad is God" and "Muhammad is not God" to be very thick and strong enough to the extent that no muslim can claim that Muhammad is God. I hope you have now gotten my message.
Concerning the issue of Hell and Paradise, I believe in two based on the word of God and base on reason. It is not unreasonable to believe that Paradise and Hell exist because God must compensate the righteous believers and punish wicked unbelievers accordingly. Again the issue of Sea that divided for the children of Israel to pass thru is a miracle that does not against reason. A miracle is a demonstration of God's power. But the issue of God becoming a man is totally against reason. One of the great attribute of God is immutablity; For I am the Lord, I change not (Malachi 3:6). The ESSENCE and the NATURE of God cannot change. Why? God did not create Himself since He has no begining. If God is the creator of Himself, then He can remould and change Himself to become human being or any thing He likes. Just like God cannot Kill Himself; In the same manner, God cannot change Himself. He is ETERNAL

Thank God that you accept that your faith in
Jesus as God is rubbish and unacceptable to
common sense. Now the next question is this; If
God can ask us to believe in something that is
rubbish and unacceptable to reason then why did
God say in Isaiah 1:18 as follows: Come now, and
let us reason together?

Thank God that you accept that your faith in Jesus as God is rubbish and unacceptable to common sense. Now the next question is this; If God can ask us to believe in something that is rubbish and acceptable to reason then why did God say in Isaiah 1:18 as follows: Come now, and let us reason together?

You believe that God almighty can have another God? Honestly no amount of logical and biblical evidence can convince you. It is only God that can do the work. Don't you see the contradiction; God almighty can have another God. It is like you are saying there is a certain number that is greater than infinity. If a number can greater than iinfinty, then infinity is no longer an infinity. Similarly, if God almighty can have another God, then it is no longer Almighty God. This is an issue of common sense.

You believe that God almighty can have another God? Honestly no amount of logical and biblical evidence can convince you. It is only God that can do the work. Don't you see the contradiction; God almighty can have another God. It is like you are saying there is a certain number that is greater than infinity. If a number can greater than iinfinty, then infinity is no longer an infinity. Similarly, if God almighty can have another God, then it is no longer Almighty God. This is an issue of common sense

Mr enilove, pls are you also saying Jesus is Almighty God? If yes, can God Almighty have another God when Jesus said "my God and your God" in John 20:17? If no, then we have two seperate Gods. This is polytheism.

The phrase "ONLY TRUE GOD" used by Jesus implies that apart from "THE FATHER", all other Gods or gods are FALSE. Now do you accept Jesus as a FALSE GOD?

Osinbajo is NOT a president but VICE president.So what are you trying to drive out? Are you saying vice president= president? Besides, can God Almighty have a vice ? Are you saying Jesus is the vice or deputy of God?

Why all these Christians behave like this? I did not dispute the fact that Bible says Jesus is God. My point is that the same Bible also says Jesus is not God.But If you say I am wrong, then take your time and answer all the questions under those 8 verses I quoted above to prove that Jesus is not God. Especially respond to the analysis under John 17:3 quoted above.

Please respond to the analysis I made under John 17:3 quoted above