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Please explain to us how the foundational problem of " who is God? and who is the creator" can be resolved USING THE BIBLICAL VERSES I QUOTED IN MY ORIGINAL POST

If it is true that God has nothing to do with the race of Ishmael, then Islam is fake and Christianity is the truth. Now address the points raised in my original post- the first and the second post. Using those biblical verses, explain to us how the problem of " who is God? and who is the creator?" can be resolved in the world of Christianity.

1. Condemnation of an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he has never committed is illogical and act of injustice that is clearly forbidden in the Bible (Matthew 12:7, Proverb 17:15, Exodus 23:7, Psalm 34:22). Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How then are we to conceive a merciful God putting His beloved prophet under His curse when God of course knew that Jesus never did anything wrong? A beloved prophet of God under the curse of God? What a contradiction ! God must have chosen a more rational way to earn our salvation ( other than cursing and condemning His beloved prophet) if truly He is All-powerful and All-knowing creator that planned everything from begining to end. Yes, the rational way which God has chosen to earn our salvation is sincere repentance: “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we arewasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live(Ezekiel 33:10-16)" . You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven (or before they can live) in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Qur'an also pass the same message: O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow (Qur'an 66:
2. It seems to give the believers a freedom to commit sin without any consequence. Telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinful believers to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage them from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believers in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinful believers to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!
3. It leaves no room for God's forgiveness. If God needs someone to “pay the price” for sin, does God ever really forgive anyone? Think about it. If you owe me a thousand naira and I hold you to it unless someone pays me the owed sum, did I really forgive your debt? It seems not, especially since the very concept of forgiveness is about releasing a debt — not collecting it from someone else.
4. Atonement of sins through animal sacrifice in the Old Testament is sufficient and perfect enough to make the doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion to be meaningless and unnecessary. Leviticus 16:21-30 says as follow: "the GOAT will carry on itself all the sins of Israelites to a remote place and the man shall release the goat in the wilderness…..Then beforethe LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS”. ". If God can truly atone for our sins through animal sacrifice as the verse just quoted above suggest, there is no need for God to shed the blood of innocent human being for sin atonement sacrifice Therefore, using the blood of innocent human being for sacrifice is paganism and barbarism in nature ; In fact, it does not portray the character of all All-merciful and omnipotent God.
5. Repeatedly, the scriptures make it clear that one person can not die for the sin of another (Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, 2nd Chronicles 25:4, 2nd Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:30, Exodus 32:30-34, Psalm 49:7). Therefore, Jesus cannot die for our sins on the cross at Calvary.
6. Redemption through Jesus death on the cross cannot be actualised in the life of the Old Testament saints (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because this redemption work was yet to happen as at that time.Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God before they die (unless you can show me a biblical verse to prove that these old testament saints were in a state of damnation until Jesus crucifixion ). So if these old testament saints, who happened to be among the children of Adam, can gain eternal life without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for other children of Adam to gain eternal life other than Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, there is no need for God to curse and condemn his beloved prophet almost Unclad on the cross before we can earn our salvation.
7. Jesus himself seek forgiveness of sins for people even though he was yet to be supposedly crucified (Matthew 9:2 ). This again prove to us that God is not in need of Jesus death on the cross before He can forgive our sins.

SINCERE REPENTANCE FROM OUR SINFUL WAYS IS THE WAY THAT ISLAM HAS PROVIDED TO REGAIN OUR SALVATION AND RECONCILATION BACK TO GOD; COMPARE QUR'AN 66:8 WITH EZEKIEL 33:10-16 QUOTED ABOVE IN THE FIRST REASON

In response to question 1; God promised Abraham that a nation will be formed through the lineage of Ishmael- Genesis 17:20, 21:13. It is a well known fact that Ishmael is the father of Arab nation- Galatians 4:22-25. Jesus also informed the Jews that kingdom of God will be taken away from them and be given to another nation-Matthew 21:43.

In response to your question 2 ;where is it stated that the WHOLE of the Bible is inspired by God? In fact, the author of the book of Luke wrote as follows: “IT SEEMED GOOD TO ME ALSO, having had perfect understanding of all things from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus (Luke 1:3)”. You can see that St Luke wrote his Gospel not because he was inspired by God but because it seemed good to him to write such an account due to his thought of having a sound knowledge on the matter. In fact, he wrote his Gospel not to the general humanity (like you and I) but to one specific influential person he addressed as "most excellent Theophilus" as clearly seen in the verse cited above.

In response to your question 3: Qur'an is the greatest evidence for his heavenly mission. God Almighty says as follows in the book of Deuteronomy ;"And if you say in your heart; How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is the word the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:21-22)". Base on these very verses, what then can we say about the Qur’an whose author spoke in the name of the Lord of Israel as shown in the verses quoted at the end of my 2nd post? Are we going to accept it as the word of the Lord of Israel or reject it as the word of a great impersonator? In the verses of the Deuteronomy quoted just above, the only acid test put forward by God to distinguish His actual word from the word of His impersonator is that the word of such impersonator would not come to pass or come true. But Qur’an contains many words of prophecy which have come to pass and come true. For example, one of the great prophecies is that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be victorious over his enemies (Qur’an 58:20-21). Another prophecy is that Islam will be established and continue to spread, and the number of Muslims will continue to grow (Qur’an 24:55, 110:1-2, 48:28). Another prophecy is that Qur’an will be protected from destruction and corruption (Qur’an 15:9). Another prophecy is that Qur’an will be made easy for memorization (Qur’an 54:17, 22, 40). Another prophecy is that people will continue to pay visitation to the house of God in Mecca (Qur’an 22:26-28, 2:125). All these prophecies are known to be true. If they were not true, we would not have a religion known as Islam and we would not have a book known as Qur’an at this present time.

In response to question 4: God only inspired the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and he would then dictate the inspirations to his companions for documentation. Everything was written down before the death of the prophet; unlike the New Testament that was only written after Jesus departure.

In response to question 5: Is God not the God of the Jews and the Gentiles? Since all the prophets of God were sent to the Jews including Jesus (for he said I was not sent except to the lost sheep of Israel-Matt 15:24) in fulfillment of the promise made to Abraham on the lineage of Isaac. Then God make the last prophet to be sent to the gentiles in fulfilment of the promise made to Abraham on the lineage of Ishmael - Genesis 17:20, 21:13.

In response to question 6, Prophet of Islam bring many new information including how Jesus escape death on the cross in a miraculous way, It also explain in details the events on the day of Judgement .

In response to Question 7, in what way does Islam resemble catholicism. If the prophet of Islam follow the catholics, why did Qur'an rejects many of their doctrines like trinity, atonement through Jesus crucifixion, only begotten son of God and so on? Is it because of rosary used by the muslims? Infact you can never find this practice in the Quran or the hadith. Majority of the scholars regard the use of rosary as innovation into the religion of islam.

In response to question 8: what do you think is going to happen if the prophet inform the Arabs that the name of their God whom they believe to be their creator is not Allah but Jehovah ? Have you forgotten that God is the originator of all languages? Are you saying each ethnic group do not have their respective name for God? The point you are trying to raise is irrelavant. The most important thing is for the people to understand that their God is one and He is the creator of the heaven and the earth and they should be worshipping this one and only God, the Lord of the universe. It is this Lord of universe they called Allah in their own language. What if some people are worshipping the sun and call it Jehovah? Are they on the right path? What people understand or have in their mind to be their God is the most important thing, not the name of that God.

In response to question 9; The redemption through Jesus' ransom sacrifice on the cross cannot be true because of the following reasons

But is it really true that God created all things through Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say about this matter ;
"This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth BY MYSELF -(WHO WAS WITH ME AT THAT TIME?) (Isaiah 44:24 KJV, ISV)".

"MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth, and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together. (Isaiah 48:13)".

It is I who made the earth and created mankind
on it. MY OWN HANDS stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts (Isaiah 45:12)


"For My HAND made all these things, Thus all
these things came into being," declares the LORD( Isaiah 66:2)

As you can see from above, Paul and John proclaimed that God created all things THROUGH Jesus Christ. But God Almighty Himself declare that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY HIMSELF , BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we expect God to use before we can believe that He created the heavens and the earth without the assistance of anybody. But unfortunately for the Christians they prefer the words of men ( that can commit error) to those infallible words that came DIRECTLY from God's mouth.
Here we can see how Paul and John contradict God Almighty on the issue of creation.
The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that Jesus is God. But as we have already established above, there are many verses of Bible that will never support this assumption. Consequently, if Jehovah witnesses manage to escape the problem of accepting Jesus as God, there is no way they can escape the problem of accepting him as master worker of all creation.
Have you now agreed with me that the problem of "Who is God ?" and "who is the creator ?" is yet to be resolved in world of Christianity as a whole. This is a FOUNDATIONAL problem that can never be overlooked. As we all know, any beautiful mansion that is erected on a very weak foundation is bound to collapse! This fact alone, if properly understood, is enough for any sincere seeker of truth to have preference for Islam over Christianity.
Unlike Bible, Qur'an is consistently establishing that Allah is God and creator of all things.
There are some Christians who want to argue that Allah is not God. I will only advice these Christians to get a Bible translated in Arabic language. They will discover that there is no other name the authors used for God except Allah ( the same spelling with that of Qur'an). Since God is the originator and creator of all languages, there is nothing wrong if God use Allah for himself in Quran because Qur'an was revealed in Arabic language and there is no any other name that Arabs used for God other than Allah.
What these Christians suppose to do is to investigate whether the description and identity given to Allah in Qur'an actually tallies with that of God Almighty. Reading those verses of Qur'an quoted below are enough to convince you that description and identity of the speaker (Allah) tallies perfectly with that of God Almighty, the God of Israel.
“O children of Israel! Remember My special favor which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill your covenant with Me as I fulfill My covenant with you, and fear none but Me. And believe in what I have sent down ( i:e this Qur’an) confirming that which is with you, and be not the first to reject it, nor sell My verses for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone (Qur’an 2:40-41)”.

I made them not to witness the creation of the heavens and the earth and not (even) their own creation, nor was I to take the misleaders as helpers (Qur'an 18:51)

And that was Our proof which We gave to Abraham against his people. We raise whom We will in degrees. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing. And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob, each of them We guided. And before him We guided Noah, and among his progeny David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good doers. And Zachariah, and John and Jesus and Elias, all in the ranks of the righteous. And Ishmael and Elisha, and Jonah and Lot; each one of them We preferred above the nations. And also some of their fathers, and their progeny and their brethren, We chose them, and We guided them to a straight path. This is the guidance of God with which He guides whomsoever He wills of His servants. But if they had joined in worship others with God, all their deeds would have been of no benefit to them. They are whom We gave the book, and authority and prophet hood…They are those whom God had guided. So follow their guidance (Qur’an6:84-90).
O My servants who believe! Certainly, My earth is spacious. Therefore worship Me and Me alone. Every soul shall have a taste of death. Then to Us you shall be brought back (Qur’an 29:56-57).

When My servants ask you concerning Me, I am indeed close to them. I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he called on Me. Therefore, let them also obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be walked in the right way (Qur’an2:186).

We did not send before you (O Muhammad-pbuh) any messenger but We inspired him that there is no God beside Me; therefore worship Me (Qur’an 21:25)
As you can see, all the personal pronouns in all the verses of Qur'an cited above can never be referred CONTEXTUALLY to any other person except God.

I choose and accept Islam because I see it as the most rational world view out of many world views that exist today. Let me start explaining my points.
We have atheism, hinduism, buddhism etc on one part. Then we have Judaism, Christianity and Islam on another part.
Let consider the atheism: Atheists are those who reject the existence of God. They only affirm the existence of nature. However, they agree that ; nature is not aware of itself, nature cannot think, nature cannot see, nature cannot hear, nature cannot speak. Yet they believe that human beings with full self awareness that are capable of thinking, capable of seeing, capable of hearing and capable of speaking over 6000 different languages evolved from the same very nature. That is a logical contradiction! Therefore, Atheism can never be true
Again Hinduism, Buddhism and the likes believe that god exist but this god is impersonal. How could impersonal god ( that lack free will) create personal human beings which consist of male and female?
What of Judaism; one of the obvious problem of Judaism is that it is too restricted to some certain places. If it is truly the world view that God want us to adopt, then at this present time, it should be within our reach. We should have free access to it like Christianity and Islam. But this is not so. Besides, there is no any verse in their scriptures commanding the believers to persuade the general people to embrace Judaism.
Now we are left with Christianity and Islam. The major reason why I believe Islam to be far more rational than Christianity is the fact that Qur'an is consistent in establishing that God is God and Jesus is not God but a mighty prophet of God who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. However, unlike Qur'an, Bible is not consistent with the identity of God. If it says Jesus is God in one place, then it will say Jesus is not God in another place. Since knowing " WHO THE GOD IS " is the foundational doctrine of any true religious faith, there should be no any iota of confusion regarding the identity of God. Unfortunately, this is not so in Christianity.
John1:1 declare:" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Here we see that THE WORD = GOD
In John 1:14, it states "The Word became flesh, and made His dwelling among us." Here we see again that JESUS = THE WORD. Simple logic declares that if A=B and B=C then A=C. Therefore, since JESUS = THE WORD and THE WORD = GOD, then JESUS = GOD
Now that we have seen how the book of John established that Jesus is God, let us investigate whether the remaining part of the Bible support this claim or not.
1. Jesus was praying to the Father and he said; And this is eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent (John 17:3). If the Father is the "only true God" according to Jesus Christ, then how could Jesus be God ?
2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to have said “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is God , then can God have another God?
3. Also Luke 6:12 recorded that Jesus went out to the mountain side to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God. If Jesus is God, who was he praying to? Was he praying to himself ?
4. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is God, why is he having someone greater than him? Can anybody be greater than God?
5. Again in Mark 10:18, Jesus said to one man who called him good teacher as follows: “why do you call me good? No one is good, but one, that is God”. If Jesus is God, why did he reject being called “good” and submit that all goodness belongs only to God?
6. Furthermore, in John 14:1, Jesus said “let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me”. If Jesus is God, why did he clearly distinguish himself from God?
7. Finally in Matthew 24:36, Jesus said; “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but ONLY THE FATHER”. If Jesus is God, why did he confess his ignorance about the Day of Judgment and then submit that the knowledge of that day belongs only to God? Can God be ignorant of anything?
As you can see, there is no way we can reconcile John 1:1,14 (which teaches that Jesus is God ) with other verses of the Bible that dispute this claim. This is the reason why Jehovah witnesses were forced to translate John 1:1 as " In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a god" . They change the term "and the word was God" in all other versions of the Bible to "and the word was a god" in their NWT Bible. Therefore, by refering to Jesus as a lesser "god", they managed to run away from the problem of calling Jesus God.
However, as they managed to run away from the problem of accepting Jesus as God , they were unable to run away from the problem of accepting him as " master worker of all creation" . In other words , like other Christian denominations, the Jehovah witnesses believe that God created everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . They believe
that God did not create anything EXCEPT
Jesus. i:e God created Jesus, then it was Jesus that created all other things including the heavens and the earth. So according to their claim, Jesus is the immediate creator of all things. That God created everything through ( or by )Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only found in the books written by Paul and John;
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and for him ( Colossians 1:16).
THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3)

I chose and accept Islam not because I have presently understood it as 100 % perfect system without any question . But because I see it as the most rational world view out of many world views that exist today. Let me start explaining my points.
We have atheism, hinduism, buddhism etc on one part. Then we have Judaism, Christianity and Islam on another part.
Let consider the atheism: Atheists are those who reject the existence of God. They only affirm the existence of nature. They believe that nature is blind, nature is deaf and nature is dumb. Yet they believe that human being capable of seeing, hearing and speaking different languages evolved from the same very nature. That is a logical contradiction!
Again hinduism, buddhism and the likes believe that god exist but this god is impersonal. How could impersonal god ( that lack free will) create personal human beings which consist of male and female. Besides Hinduism, Buddhism and the likes are restricted to some certain areas. If they were true, we should be freely have access to them like Islam and Christianity.
What of Judaism; it shares the same problem with Hinduism and buddhism in the sense that it is too restricted to some certain places. If it is truly the world view that God want us to adopt, then at this present time, it should be within our reach. But this is not so.
Now we are left with Christianity and Islam. The major reason why I believe Islam to be far more rational than Christianity is the fact that Qur'an is consistent in establishing that Allah is God. Unlike Qur'an, Bible is not consistent with the identity of God. If it says Jesus is God in one place, then it will say Jesus is not God in another place. Since knowing " WHO THE GOD IS " is the foundational doctrine of any true religious faith, there should be no any iota of confusion regarding the identity and attributes of God. Unfortunately, this is not so in Christianity.
John1:1 declare:" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Here we see that THE WORD = GOD
In John 1:14, it states "The Word became flesh, and made His dwelling among us." Here we see again that JESUS = THE WORD. Simple logic declares that if A=B and B=C then A=C. Therefore, since JESUS = THE WORD and THE WORD = GOD, then JESUS = GOD
Now that we have seen how the book of John established that Jesus is God, let us investigate whether the remaining part of the Bible support this claim
1. Jesus was praying to the Father and he said; And this is eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent (John 17:3). If the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ, then how could Jesus be God ?
2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to have said “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is God , then can God have another God?
3. Also Luke 6:12 recorded that Jesus went out to the mountainside to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God. If Jesus is God, who was he praying to? Was he praying to himself ?
4. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is God, why is he having someone greater than him? Can anybody be greater than God?
5. Again in Mark 10:18, Jesus said to one man who called him good teacher as follows: “why do you call me good? No one is good, but one, that is God”. If Jesus is God, why did he reject being called “good” and submit that all goodness belongs only to God?
6. Furthermore, in John 14:1, Jesus said “let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me”. If Jesus is God, why did he clearly distinguish himself from God?
7. Finally in Matthew 24:36, Jesus said; “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but ONLY THE FATHER”. If Jesus is God, why did he confess his ignorance about the Day of Judgment and then submit that the knowledge of that day belongs only to God? Can God be ignorant of anything?
As you can see, there is no way we can reconcile John 1:1,14 ( which teaches that Jesus is God ) with other verses of the Bible that dispute this claim. This is the reason why Jehovah witnesses were forced to translate John 1:1 as " In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a god" . They change the term "and the word was God" in all other versions of the Bible to "and the word was a god" in their NWT Bible. Therefore, by refering to Jesus as a lesser "god", they managed to run away from the problem of calling Jesus God.
However, as they managed to run away from the problem of accepting Jesus as God Almighty , they were unable to run away from the problem of accepting him as " master worker of all creation" . In other words , like other Christian denominations, the Jehovah witnesses believe that God created everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . That God created everything through ( or by )Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only found in the books written by Paul and John;
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM ALL (other) THINGS CAME and through whom we live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL (other) THINGS HA VE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and for him.( Colossians 1:16).
THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3)
But is it really true that God created all things through Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say about this matter ; "This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth— Who was with me at that time? (Isaiah 44:24)".
As you can see from above, Paul and John proclaimed that God created all things TRHOUGH Jesus Christ. But God Almighty Himself declare that He created all things ALL ALONE.
This is an obvious contradiction! The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that Jesus is God. But as we have already established above there are many verses of Bible that will never support this assumption. Consequently, if Jehovah witnesses manage to escape the problem of accepting Jesus as God, there is no way they can escape the problem of accepting him as master worker of all creation.

Have you now agreed with me that the world of Christianity as a whole is yet to solve the problem of "Who is God ?" and "who is the creator ?" . These are foundational problems that can never be overlooked.
This is the exact reason why you must prefer Islam to christianity. Unlike Bible, Qur'an is consistently establishing that Allah is God and creator of all things.

Despite all the beliefs we have in Jesus Christ on the authority of Holy Qur'an , there are some Christians who insist that Qur'an is a book of lies and deception simply because it rejects Jesus crucifixion (Qur'an 4:157-158), the very foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected. However, when you read and understand the major problems associated with doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion, then you will realize the reason why Qur'an must reject Jesus crucifixion if the book is really what it claims to be; i:e the word of God.
These major problems are explained below.
1. Condemnation of an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he has never committed is illogical and act of injustice that is clearly forbidden in the Bible (Matthew 12:7, Proverb 17:15, Exodus 23:7, Psalm 34:22). Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How then are we to conceive a merciful God putting His beloved prophet under His curse when God of course knew that Jesus never did anything wrong? A beloved prophet of God under the curse of God? What a contradiction ! God must have chosen a more rational way to earn our salvation ( other than cursing and condemning His beloved prophet) if truly He is All-powerful and All-knowing creator that planned everything from begining to end. Yes, the rational way which God has chosen to earn our salvation is sincere repentance: “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live(Ezekiel 33:10-16)" . You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven (or before they can live) in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Qur'an also pass the same message: O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow(Qur'an 66:
2. It seems to give the believers a freedom to commit sin without any consequence. Telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinful believers to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage them from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believers in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinful believers to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!
3. It leaves no room for God's forgiveness. If God needs someone to “pay the price” for sin, does God ever really forgive anyone? Think about it. If you owe me a thousand naira and I hold you to it unless someone pays me the owed sum, did I really forgive your debt? It seems not, especially since the very concept of forgiveness is about releasing a debt — not collecting it from someone else.
4. Atonement of sins through animal sacrifice in the Old Testament is sufficient and perfect enough to make the doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion to be meaningless and unnecessary. Leviticus 16:21-30 says as follow: "the GOAT will carry on itself all the sins of Israelites to a remote place and the man shall release the goat in the wilderness…..Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS”. ". If God can truly atone for our sins through animal sacrifice as the verse just quoted above suggest, there is no need for God to shed the blood of innocent human being for sin atonement sacrifice Therefore, using the blood of innocent human being for sacrifice is paganism and barbarism in nature ; In fact, it does not portray the character of all All-merciful and omnipotent God.
5. Repeatedly, the scriptures make it clear that one person can not die for the sin of another (Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, 2nd Chronicles 25:4, 2nd Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:30, Exodus 32:30-34, Psalm 49:7). Therefore, Jesus cannot die for our sins on the cross at Calvary.
6. Redemption through Jesus death on the cross cannot be actualised in the life of the Old Testament saints (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because this redemption work was yet to happen as at that time.Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God before they die (unless you can show me a biblical verse to prove that these old testament saints were in a state of damnation until Jesus crucifixion ). So if these old testament saints, who happened to be among the children of Adam, can gain eternal life without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for other children of Adam to gain eternal life other than Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, there is no need for God to curse and condemn his beloved prophet almost Unclad on the cross before we can earn our salvation.
7. Jesus himself seek forgiveness of sins for people even though he was yet to be supposedly crucified (Matthew 9:2 ). This again prove to us that God is not in need of Jesus death on the cross before He can forgive our sins.

Christians are programmed to believe that forgiveness and remission of sins can ONLY be obtained by shedding of blood (Hebrews 9:22). Yet in 2nd Chronicles 7:14, God Almighty says “If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will FORGIVE THEIR SINS and will heal their land.”. Again in Isaiah 55:7, God Almighty declares; let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thought. Let them turn to the LORD; He will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will FREELY PARDON. Furthermore, in Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to shed any blood before their sins can be forgiven in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. However many Christian Scholars generally insist that the remission of sins can ONLY be obtained by vicarious blood sacrifice, and they cite as proof Leviticus 17:11 which says: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” But does this verse clearly teach that blood is the ONLY means God has provided to make atonement? Certainly not! The verse quoted above says; “for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.”. The verse did not say; “for it is ONLY the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, INCENSE was served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47. Again, GIVING OF CHARITY is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as "MAKING ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOUL"– the same expression used in Leviticus 17:11 quoted above. In fact, King Solomon prophesied that the Jewish people would earn forgiveness for their sins in the land of their enemies by sincere repentance and prayer where they could not have access to blood atonement sacrifices; "If they RETURN TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND WITH ALL THEIR SOUL in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and PRAY TO YOU TOWARD their LAND which You have given to their fathers, the CITY which You have chosen, and the HOUSE which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE Your people who have sinned against You and ALL THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS which they have transgressed against You…” (I Kings 8:46-50). See how King Solomon prophesied how God would forgive the sins of the Israelites if they repent and pray toward the house of God in Jerusalem just like the Muslims used to pray toward the house of God in Mecca. Again, when Daniel advised the King Nebuchadnezzar on how he would atone for his sins and his iniquities, he did not ask the King to shed any blood. Read what he asked the King to do:"Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto you, and break off your sins by PRACTICING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and your iniquities by SHOWING MERCY TO THE POOR (Daniel 4:27)". All these facts prove that Hebrew 9:22 is WRONG by asserting that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth(Qur'an21:91)
3. Muslims believe in the all the miracles performed by Jesus during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110) .
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an 4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus'2nd coming toward the end of the world (Qur'an 43:57-61)
Yet despite all these believes we have in Jesus Christ on the authority of Holy Qur'an , there are some Christians who insist that Qur'an is a book of lies and deception simply because it rejects Jesus crucifixion (Qur'an 4:157-158), the very foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected. However, when you read and understand the major problems associated with doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion, then you will realize the reason why Qur'an must reject Jesus crucifixion if the book is really what it claims to be; i:e the word of God.
These major problems are explained below.
1. Condemnation of an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he has never committed is illogical and act of injustice that is clearly forbidden in the Bible (Matthew 12:7, Proverb 17:15, Exodus 23:7, Psalm 34:22). Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How then are we to conceive a merciful God putting His beloved prophet under His curse when God of course knew that Jesus never did anything wrong?
2. It seems to give the believers a freedom to commit sin without any consequence. Telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinful believers to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage them from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believers in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinful believers to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!
3. It leaves no room for God's forgiveness. If God needs someone to “pay the price” for sin, does God ever really forgive anyone? Think about it. If you owe me a hundred dollars and I hold you to it unless someone pays me the owed sum, did I really forgive your debt? It seems not, especially since the very concept of forgiveness is about releasing a debt — not collecting it from someone else.
4. Atonement of sins through animal sacrifice and sincere repentance in the Old Testament is sufficient and perfect enough ( see Leviticus 16:21-30 and Ezekiel 33:10-16 ) to make the doctrine of atonement through Jesus crucifixion to be meaningless and unnecessary.
5. Repeatedly, the scriptures make it clear that one person can not die for the sin of another (Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, 2nd Chronicles 25:4, 2nd Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:30, Exodus 32:30-34, Psalm 49:7). Therefore, Jesus cannot die for our sins on the cross at Calvary.
6. Redemption through Jesus death on the cross cannot be actualised in the life of the Old Testament saints (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because this redemption work was yet to happen as at that time.Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God before they die (unless you can show me a biblical verse to prove that these old testament saints were in a state of damnation before Jesus crucifixion and that they are no longer in this state after Jesus crucifixion ).So if these old testament saints, who happened to be among the children of Adam, can gain eternal life without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for other children of Adam to gain eternal life other than Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, there is no need for God to curse and condemn his beloved prophet almost Unclad on the cross before we can earn our salvation.
7. Jesus himself forgave sins freely even though he was yet to be supposedly crucified (Matthew 9:2 ). This again prove to us that God is not in need of Jesus death on the cross before He can forgive our sins.
Have you now seen the reason why Qur'an must reject Jesus crucifixion?

Mr enilove you are yet to show me a biblical verse which show clearly that it was Jesus death on the cross that really grant eternal life to the old testaments saints. John 5:24-29 you quoted above is only talking about how the righteous souls will be resurrected from the grave to eternal life based on the believe they have in Jesus as being sent by God; NOT on the believe that Jesus was condemned on the cross for our sins. There is no any mention of Jesus death on the cross in all these verses
Again if you believe that Isaiah 53 was talking about how Jesus will die on the cross so that we can be entitled to divine forgiveness for our sins, then you should know that God has been forgiving sins through sincere repentance many years before Jesus was born talkless of being crucified. See it by yourself; In 2nd Chronicles 7:14, God Almighty says “If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will FORGIVE THEIR SINS and will heal their land.”. Again in Isaiah 55:7, God Almighty declares; let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thought. Let them turn to the LORD; He will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will FREELY PARDON. Furthermore, in Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; THEY WILL SURELY LIVE”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven (or before they can live) in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Therefore, sincere repentance displayed by the Old testament saints will be enough to grant them divine forgiveness for their sins. Hence there is no need for Jesus to be crushed and died for their sins
But if you believe that Isaiah 53 was talking about how Jesus will die on the cross in order to remove our sinful nature so that we can become "immune" to committing sins, then you should know that there is no way for this immunity to be actualized in the life of old testament saints because they have lived and passed away before Jesus died on the cross.
SO IN WHAT WAY EXACTLY DID OLD TESTAMENT SAINTS BENEFIT FROM JESUS DEATH ON THE CROSS ? So if these old testament saints, who happened to be among the children of Adam, can gain eternal life without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way for other children of Adam to also gain eternal life other than Jesus crucifixion. But if you refuse to accept this fact then shows us a biblical verse to prove that these old testament saints were in a state of damnation before Jesus crucifixion and then another verse to prove that they are no longer in this state after Jesus crucifixion.

Sorry to say, you are spiritually blind. Even an average muslim or christian know that Abraham, Moses and the likes have attained eternal life. They are only waiting for this eternal life to commence on the day of ressurrection. You are just confusing everything together. Pls just show me a biblical verse to prove that it was Jesus death on the cross that will make these old testament saints gain their salvation and reconcilation back to God. This is the only one thing you have to do to destroy my argument in point No 6 in my original post. So stop confusing everything together. Hope you get my point.

Mr enilove no amount of hadith you quote can change the falsehood inherent in Christianity to truth. Let me assist you to explain the point number 6 above using premises.
premise 1: Jesus crucifixion was said to occur many years after the death of many Old testament saints (like Abraham, Moses, Isaac, Jacob etc).
Premise 2:Therefore, redemption through Jesus crucifixion cannot be actualized in the life of many Old Testament saints.
Premise 3: But these Old testament saints ( who happened to be among the children of Adam) manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God before they die- unless there is a biblical verse to prove that it was Jesus death on the cross that will make these very people earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God
Premise 4:This implies that there is alternative way to eternal life for the children of Adam other than Jesus crucifixion.
Premise 5: Consequently, there is no need for God of mercy to curse and condemn His beloved prophet on the cross before we can gain eternal life.
Premise 6: Hence, if there is a religious faith which insist that there is need for God to curse and condemn His beloved prophet on the cross before we gain eternal life, then that religious faith must be false
Premise 7: But Christianity is a religious faith which insist that God must curse ( Galatians 3:13) and condemn Jesus on the cross before we can gain eternal life.
Premise 8:Therefore, Christianity must be false

Despite the the fact that ; on the authority of Holy Qur'an 1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an19:30).

2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth (Qur'an21:91)
3. Muslims believe in the all the miracles performed by Jesus during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110) .

4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an4:158)

5. Muslims believe in Jesus'2nd coming toward the end of the world (Qur'an 43:57-61)

Yet there are some Christians who insist that Qur'an is a book of lies and deception simply because it rejects Jesus crucifixion (Qur'an 4:157-158), the foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected. However, when you read and understand the major problems associated with doctrine of sin atonement through Jesus crucifixion, then you will realize the reason why Qur'an must reject Jesus crucifixion if the book is really what it claims to be; i:e the word of God. These major problems are explained below.
1. Condemnation of an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he has never committed is illogical and act of injustice that is clearly forbidden in the Bible (Matthew 12:7, Proverb 17:15, Exodus 23:7, Psalm 34:22). Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How are we to conceive a merciful God putting His beloved prophet under His curse when God of course knew Jesus never did anything wrong? To raise a more controversial question, if it’s true that God’s justice must be appeased by sacrificing his own innocent Son, then don’t we have to conclude that pagans who have throughout history sacrificed their children to appease their gods had the right intuition ?
2. It seems to give the believers a freedom to commit sin without any consequence. Telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinful believers to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage them from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believers in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinful believers to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!
3. It leaves no room for God's forgiveness. If God needs someone to “pay the price” for sin, does God ever really forgive anyone? Think about it. If you owe me a hundred dollars and I hold you to it unless someone pays me the owed sum, did I really forgive your debt? It seems not, especially since the very concept of forgiveness is about releasing a debt — not collecting it from someone else.
4. Atonement of sins through animal sacrifice and sincere repentance in the Old Testament is sufficient and perfect enough ( see Leviticus 16:21-30 and Ezekiel 33:10-16 ) to make the doctrine of atonement through Jesus crucifixion to be meaningless and unnecessary.
5. Repeatedly, the scriptures make it clear that one person can not die for the sin of another (Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, 2nd Chronicles 25:4, 2nd Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:30, Exodus 32:30-34, Psalm 49:7). Therefore, Jesus cannot die for our sins on the cross at Calvary.
6. Redemption through Jesus death on the cross cannot be actualised in the life of the Old Testament saints (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because this redemption work was yet to happen as at that time.Yet these people (who happened to be among the children of Adam) manage to earn their salvation and reconcilation back to God before they die (unless you can show me a biblical verse that claim otherwise). This simply implies that there is alternative way to eternal life for children of Adam other than Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, there is no need for God to curse and condemn his beloved prophet almost naked on the cross before we can earn our salvation.
7. Jesus himself forgave sins freely even though he was yet to be supposedly crucified (Matthew 9:2 ). This again prove to us that God is not in need of Jesus death on the cross before He can forgive our sins.
Please make sure you read the "POINT NUMBER SIX" above again and again. If you understand it very well, then it is enough to make you reject Christianity ( because if there is no Jesus crucifixion, then there is no Christianity) . Then you must accept Islam, the only religion on earth that speak well about Jesus Christ ( peace be upon him) and his mother.

The story of Jesus died for our sins would have made sense if Jesus had come and died at the begining of the world so that every son of Adam will have access to his precious blood. But there are many generations among the children of Adam who were completely ignorant about this plan talkless of exercising their faith in it. Yet they are manage to gain their salvation and reconcilation back to God. God has been forgiving people through various means before Jesus arrival; In Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. However many Christian Scholars generally insist that the remission of sins can ONLY be obtained by vicarious blood sacrifice, and they cite as proof Leviticus 17:11 which says: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” But does this verse clearly teach that blood is the ONLY means God has provided to make atonement? Certainly not! The verse quoted above says; “for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.”. The verse did not say; “for it is ONLY the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, INCENSE was served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47. Again, GIVING OF CHARITY is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as "MAKING ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOUL"– the same expression used in Leviticus 17:11 quoted above. In fact, King Solomon prophesied that the Jewish people would earn forgiveness for their sins in the land of their enemies by sincere repentance and prayer where they could not have access to blood atonement sacrifices; "If they RETURN TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND WITH ALL THEIR SOUL in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and PRAY TO YOU TOWARD their LAND which You have given to their fathers, the CITY which You have chosen, and the HOUSE which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE Your people who have sinned against You and ALL THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS which they have transgressed against You…” (I Kings 8:46-50). See how King Solomon prophesied how God would forgive the sins of the Israelites if they repent and pray toward the house of God in Jerusalem just like the Muslims used to pray toward the house of God in Mecca. Again, when Daniel advised the King Nebuchadnezzar on how he would atone for his sins and his iniquities, he did not ask the King to shed any blood. Read what he asked the King to do:"Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto you, and break off your sins by PRACTICING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and your iniquities by SHOWING MERCY TO THE POOR (Daniel 4:27). Now that we have established that God can save the wicked soul through sincere repentance without the shedding of Jesus blood on the cross, then there is no need for Jesus to die. But if you assume that the main purpose ofJesus crucifxion
is to remove the curse and the sinful nature we inherited from first Adam, then Jesus did not come at the right time. There are many generations before Jesus that have lived and died with their sinful nature without having the opportunity to believe inJesus talkless of its crucifixion. Yet we cannot say all of them are going to hell. Therefore, Jesus crucifixion as regard to removing our sinful nature is also meaningless and unnecessary.

This is the story made up by Paul to justify the supposed crucifixion of Jesus. The story would have made sense if Jesus had come and died at the begining of the world so that every son of Adam will have access to his precious blood. But there are many generations among the children of Adam who were completely ignorant about this plan talkless of exercising their faith in it. Yet they are manage to gain their salvation and reconcilation back to God. God has been forgiving people through various means before Jesus arrival; In Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. However many Christian Scholars generally insist that the remission of sins can ONLY be obtained by vicarious blood sacrifice, and they cite as proof Leviticus 17:11 which says: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” But does this verse clearly teach that blood is the ONLY means God has provided to make atonement? Certainly not! The verse quoted above says; “for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.”. The verse did not say; “for it is ONLY the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, INCENSE was served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47. Again, GIVING OF CHARITY is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as "MAKING ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOUL"– the same expression used in Leviticus 17:11 quoted above. In fact, King Solomon prophesied that the Jewish people would earn forgiveness for their sins in the land of their enemies by sincere repentance and prayer where they could not have access to blood atonement sacrifices; "If they RETURN TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND WITH ALL THEIR SOUL in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and PRAY TO YOU TOWARD their LAND which You have given to their fathers, the CITY which You have chosen, and the HOUSE which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE Your people who have sinned against You and ALL THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS which they have transgressed against You…” (I Kings 8:46-50). See how King Solomon prophesied how God would forgive the sins of the Israelites if they repent and pray toward the house of God in Jerusalem just like the Muslims used to pray toward the house of God in Mecca. Again, when Daniel advised the King Nebuchadnezzar on how he would atone for his sins and his iniquities, he did not ask the King to shed any blood. Read what he asked the King to do:"Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto you, and break off your sins by PRACTICING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and your iniquities by SHOWING MERCY TO THE POOR (Daniel 4:27). Now that we have established that God can save the wicked soul through sincere repentance without the shedding of Jesus blood on the cross, then there is no need for Jesus to die. But if you assume that the main purpose ofJesus crucifxion
is to remove the curse and the sinful nature we inherited from first Adam, then Jesus did not come at the right time. There are many generations before Jesus that have lived and died with their sinful nature without having the opportunity to believe inJesus talkless of its crucifixion. Yet we cannot say all of them are going to hell. Therefore, Jesus crucifixion as regard to removing our sinful nature is also meaningless and unnecessary.

This is the story made up by Paul to justify the supposed crucifixion of Jesus. The story would have made sense if Jesus had come and died at the begining of the world so that every son of Adam will have access to his precious blood. But there are many generations among the children of Adam who were completely ignorant about this plan talkless of exercising their faith in it. Yet they are manage to gain their salvation and reconcilation back to God. God has been forgiving people through various means before Jesus arrival; In Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. However many Christian Scholars generally insist that the remission of sins can ONLY be obtained by vicarious blood sacrifice, and they cite as proof Leviticus 17:11 which says: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” But does this verse clearly teach that blood is the ONLY means God has provided to make atonement? Certainly not! The verse quoted above says; “for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.”. The verse did not say; “for it is ONLY the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, INCENSE was served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47. Again, GIVING OF CHARITY is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as "MAKING ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOUL"– the same expression used in Leviticus 17:11 quoted above. In fact, King Solomon prophesied that the Jewish people would earn forgiveness for their sins in the land of their enemies by sincere repentance and prayer where they could not have access to blood atonement sacrifices; "If they RETURN TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND WITH ALL THEIR SOUL in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and PRAY TO YOU TOWARD their LAND which You have given to their fathers, the CITY which You have chosen, and the HOUSE which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE Your people who have sinned against You and ALL THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS which they have transgressed against You…” (I Kings 8:46-50). See how King Solomon prophesied how God would forgive the sins of the Israelites if they repent and pray toward the house of God in Jerusalem just like the Muslims used to pray toward the house of God in Mecca. Again, when Daniel advised the King Nebuchadnezzar on how he would atone for his sins and his iniquities, he did not ask the King to shed any blood. Read what he asked the King to do:"Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto you, and break off your sins by PRACTICING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and your iniquities by SHOWING MERCY TO THE POOR (Daniel 4:27). Now that we have established that God can save the wicked soul through sincere repentance without the shedding of Jesus blood on the cross, then there is no need for Jesus to die. But if you assume that the main purpose ofJesus crucifxion
is to remove the curse and the sinful nature we inherited from first Adam, then Jesus did not come at the right time. There are many generations before Jesus that have lived and died with their sinful nature without having the opportunity to believe inJesus talkless of its crucifixion. Yet we cannot say all of them are going to hell. Therefore, Jesus crucifixion as regard to removing our sinful nature is also meaningless and unnecessary.

If you read carefully; " “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of
God
will be taken away from you and given
to a
nation who will produce its fruit. Anyone
who
falls on this stone will be broken to
pieces;" You will understand that the stone refers to " a nation" mention in the previous verse. It is not refering to an individual like Jesus or Muhammad. That is why it must be Arab nation li:e the Ishmaelites. All the previous prophets of God are from Israelites in fulfilment of promise made to Abraham as regard to Isaac. So Ishmaelites has been neglected for many years.Therefore in order the fulfil the promise made to Abraham as regard to Ishmael in Genesis 17:20 God now decided to make the last prophet from the children of Ishmael the Arabs. So they are the rejected stone which now become the corner stone. All the enemies that faced them were broken to pieces in the battle fields.

The prophecy in Matthew 21:44 says " Anyone who
falls on this stone will be broken to pieces;
anyone on whom it falls will be crushed". If Jesus is the stone and he was crucified and then become accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13)according to what you believe, then in what way did he fulfil this prophecy? Have you now seen that Christianity as a whole cannot be put together.