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And the closest object to us is the Moon. Farther away is the Sun (and the planets of our solar system);
much-much farther away are the stars of our
galaxy, and other galaxies are even farther. Now, what do we read in the Qur’an? What is our data ?

We read that Allah himself says he is the creator of the Earth, the Heaven, the Sun, the Moon, and the stars.
In verse 71:15 we are told: “Allah has
created the seven heavens, one above another” .

First, I must note that modern science recognizes no such divisions of the skyes science divides the Earth’s atmosphere into layers.
But Allah didn’t mean the Earth’s atmosphere by the word “heaven”, because the Sun and the Moon are in some part of the “seven heavens”, according to the
Qur’an, and such astronomical objects are of
course not in our Earth’s atmosphere.

Moreover, in verse 37:6 Allah tells us that he put the stars in
the lowest of the seven heavens: 37:6 “We have indeed decked the lowest heaven
with an adornment, the stars.”
If the lowest heaven is decked with stars, surely the word “heaven” cannot refer to our
atmosphere, right my dear Muslim reader?

Let’s move on.
But here comes the disaster: if the stars are in
the lowest (or nearest) heaven, what is there in
the other six heavens? Alas! The Moon is there!
Here is the datum, in 71:16 , as a continuation of
71:15 :
71:15 “See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens, one above another,”
71:16 “And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun a lamp?”
No, my dear Muslim, “I see not” what your book is talking about. If the Moon is a light in the midst of the (supposed) seven heavens, then it is
necessarily farther away than the stars, which
adorn the “lowest heaven” , the one nearest to us.
Is there any way to escape from this conclusion?
Does the Qur’an say that Allah put the stars on
the lowest heaven?
Does the Qur’an say that the Moon is in the midst of the (supposed) seven heavens?
Do we conclude from this that the Moon must be farther away from the stars?
Does that last conclusion contradic

Yunus2012:
So in your considered opinion the creation of heaven and earth is something trivial right. one thing the Quran kept saying is that its only for those who reason.
who mention that Quran only talked about things visible to man and I asked :the description of the growth of the fetus in the womb through all the stages was VERY visible 1400 years ago right? the statement that all creature was created from water was equally glaring in the desert.
It is the only Book that described event after death what is available both in even and hell as well as why human race has different colour race and language.
I belief that you lied when u said you have studied the Quran. or you have some other issues.

what appears in the Qur’an is only what
Muhammad had a direct experience of: primarily
the “Heaven” and the Earth, and secondarily the
Sun, Moon, and stars. I put “Heaven” in quotes
because, as you probably know from your modern scientific knowledge, there is nothing like “heaven” in reality. What we see above our heads at daytime is the bluish color of the lower portion of
the atmosphere that surrounds the Earth. That
bluish color is caused by dust particles that
scatter the sunlight, absorbing the colors of longer
wavelengths (such as red, yellow, and green) and
letting only the shorter-wavelength colors such as
cyan and blue reach our eyes. At nighttime, since
there is no sunlight, there is no such scattering, so
we can see through the atmosphere and our sight
reaches much farther, all the way to the stars of
our galactic neighborhood. However, even the
closest stars are far-far away, at least
compared to the distances of the Moon and Sun.
The Moon is the natural object which is closest to
the Earth (please pay attention to this), being at
a mean distance of around 380,000 km. The Sun is
farther away, at a mean distance of 149,000,000
km (149 million) away from us. But even the
closest star (called “Proxima Centauri”) is really-
really far away, at a distance of around
40,519,553,200,000 km (40 trillion). All the stars
that we see with the unaided eye are no more than
28,000 trillion km away (or: 28 quadrillion), but
beyond those there are stars that we see only
through telescopes, and which form our galaxy,
the Milky Way. It is estimated that from here to
the center of our galaxy it’s a distance of around
1,100 quadrillion kilometers, more or less. But still,
our galaxy is only a small “island” in a universe
full of other galaxies — billions of them. Some of
the galaxies are close together, forming clusters
(groups), and such clusters form even larger
clusters, and so on. There is an estimated number
of (at least) 200 billion galaxies in the universe

In summary, there is nothing like “heaven” in
reality. The “heaven” is only an illusion, caused by some properties of our planet’s atmosphere.

lanxebony:
Nt dat i want to bt cos she cant allow me buh grls keep cuming 4 me

she is actually fucking other guys bro...never trust any lady that pretends to be holy.
I once date a lady that lives close to me, she was the hijabian type ( so called malo girl).
no kiss, we keep three meter distance whenever we are together. My taught was that I had found a virgin. until my mother started telling me to be careful with her, I was reluctant thinking that she was a perfect girl. I was shocked when I saw her in a friends room.

Yunus2012:
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That's your prerogative. If a religion is said to be a way of life, you naturally expected it to resolve all issues relating to living. If you decide to belie it that's your issue. weather you like it or this phenomenon is part of living on this world and Islam had given the completed details about it. its left to you, your reasoning and free will.

what complete details?
I have read the quran, hadith, sira, book written by Muslim apologist etc and I haven't been able to see any meaningful truth ot any essential things there.... everything in those books of details are things that a 12 years old will laugh about.

1. check how god created even and earth in the quran
2. How pig and dog is forbidden but camel urine is great
3. how god placed mountain on earth to stabilized the earth.
4. How the sun set on a mouldy plain
5.How god only knows about plant and animal and fail to mention nothing about micro organisms that have more population than all other living things

God of those books only know what man can see ( even if it is illusion, like the heaven) and fail to know what a man can't see

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe Abraham Lincoln ever existed?

do you believe my mother grandma move mountain, cure the sick and walks on the sky because she doesn't obey the laws of gravity....if you believe my story then I will believe Jesus walks on water

diablos:
I didn ask 4 ur lame, god4saken opinion, so y don't u get a grip of ur fingers n next time u type ur poetry 2 ur goddamned self

Nigga! !! calm the Bleep down, behave like a civilized individual

In my 200 level, my engineering communication lecturer was accusing me of having a northern accent and not been able to pronounce some words properly. he told me that English language has made it possible for scientific principles to be expressed properly. The question I ask him then was why Japan with 127million people has produce several nobel prize winners in science and technology and can be boast of several world class infrastructure, engineering capability and third largest economy by speaking a japanese kanji language

Yunus2012:
This is Islamic view:
once some dies he is dead. is it possible for a child to return to his mother's womb after birth? That is the exact example to know that nothing like Akudaiya.
It is simply the handy work of jinns (spirits) to confuse and mislead humans. This is Islamic view:
once some dies he is dead. is it possible for a child to return to his mother's womb after birth? That is the exact example to know that nothing like Akudaiya.
It is simply the handy work of jinns (spirits) to confuse and mislead humans.

any faith that believe in jin, akudaya etc should not be taken serious

victorazy:
Yes "Isa"
Some stories in Qoran was stolen from Bible

why many stories from bible were stolen from Judaism script....all those numerous author of so called religious book should be charged for plagiarizing other people's idea btw are wrong

darne:
This man has a very strong point, i am hoping to become a writer/novelist someday too

Wolesoyinka is wrong...the internet has madebit possible to know more.

back to my secondary school days when we have limited access to the internet...memorizing all the countries in the world including their capitals, demography, economy etc makes you a smart boy...now you can get all those infoemation at your fingertip without any problem.

You can download lecture materials of advance coutries in specialized discipline luke structure and civil engineering never minding the stupid lecturers in our university

jerryunit48:
i actually took another look at the roof and saw little or nothing , can u pls. share more light at exactly what the mistake is ,u know there are many learners here like me and there are things the profis will easily see and we will not notice

I am abit busy now but I hope this small roof plan sletch below will help to convey my message.

Saklekplus:
guy,GOD bless your memory, I remember one old blind woman in my area, she is a family friend but lost her sight long time ago,the woman told me that she use to see some creatures like human, some have two heads, she saw some of them walking on the wall,I think they live in different way on this planet,she will see them walking all around, they have children, .......

Alm these are absurd. ..you believe a blind woman seeing.creatures walking on walls. she might be suffering from a mental peoblem

I've heard numerous stories about this akudaya but i will share 1 that really shocked me.

A young man who happened to be the only son of his parents died miserably. Though i wasn't told where he died or how he died. He was the heir to the fathers wealth as the only son.

The man was said to have established a business booming with lots of customers in lagos(why always lagos?).... He also got married but not legally to a pretty young lady there and they had kids...

When the young man sensed his time of existence as partial human was coming to an end, he talked to his wife about seeing his parents (i still ask myself, why now?). The wife agreed. They were few distant away from home before the man came up with excuse.... He told his wife he needed to get some items from the market. He gave the wife direction on how she'd be able to locate their main house. The wife with the kids kept going. On reaching the house, the mother of the man saw them and asked if they were looking for some one. The lady described whom they were looking for and coincidentally, she was speaking to the mother in-law.... The lady told her that she's the wife of her son... The old woman, amazed by what she heard couldn't believe it.... She took the lady to the place where the man was buried and told her that he died a long time the ago.... The lady was skeptical and decided to call her husband on phone but it wasn't through.... That was how the man disappeared into thin air till today.

The question i still ask myself is - Are the kids half man-half spirit?

I believe it is a myth because all the story are like yours.

1. why would a lad/man marry somebody you don't know their relatives?
2.why the Nigga always disappear some kilometers away from the house.
4.Biologically, how will the children look

InyinyaAgbaOku:
The geographical/real delta of the river Niger comprises of rivers, delta, bayelsa.The political Niger delta has imo, abia, Edo, ondo, akwaibom.

A delta is an area of land in which a river
divides into smaller rivers and empties into
a larger body of water. since the river flowing into the ocean is not river Niger but mixtures of river Benue and river Niger. so, it should be called Niger-Benue delta

stebell:
Niger Delta is the land that flows with milk and honey.

It is the Niger Delta that is keeping this country in one piece.

Remove the ND and yu hav nothing as Naija.

Ma 2cent tho

The reasons why Niger delta is keeping the government is because of their lack of initiative to develop more competitive product from agriculture, mining, servicing, manufacturing etc.

oil and gas only contributes 15% Nigeria gdp, so to somebody like me in construction industry paying top naira for oil, providing my own domestic water ( through bored hole), prividing my own sewage etc.

oil revenue of $25 billions dollars iw not enough to even sustained Lagos state not to talk of Nigeria

GenBuhari:
Blame not the Police but our govt allowing things to get to that stage

why always blame your government for all your misfortunes?
which gov't agancy gave the black gorilla umbrella?
I know how it works...the chinese guy goes to a nearby police station, drop some cash for the dpo for some extral security and the spo summon a gorilla in black and black...here some the retard police officer

diablos:
Sharaaaap u F000lish Sh.itGaynaian bas.tard! Vile n bile of d universe...most accursed, cursed dregs of d human race.

Mumu gaynaians are d wastrels of d earth...d ORIGINAL slaves of mankind. Its in ur fvckking destinies 2 be enslaved u blackened, darkened f000lish fufu eater.

Product of intercourse between a man and an antelope! May d gods of ur ancestors strangle ur entire lineage for typing diz fvckery in diz forum u unrepentant cretinous fvctard

why attacking the m messengers when the message is clear and truthful.

Nigeria are too proud to understand reality. the reality is we are not that great as people. Our inability to build a country where things work, where we can get a very strong national identity where all Nigerians is been respected

GenBuhari:
Never seen a slave with a gun before

stupid Nigeria police...they can even help the brown pig wipe his ass after stooling

lonelydora:
Seun should ban this guy. Even if this happened, we are 100 times better than your yeye country.

The truth is bitter. I'm a Nigerian but its pathetic the way we behave in this country, so many of us are retards with no sense of reasoning. Chinese are not too better of than us but we can lick their ass for some change.

Nigerians working for brown people's company are treated like slaves, paid so little and transported on a truck like slave, animals or prisoners....I wonder why th stupid legislatures or labour union have not come out to protects these poor Nigerians but when there is small oil price hike all of them will be shouting like fools

Equado:
3 days and yhu guys alrdy hving sexwait oh...yhu b calabar girl??

what the Bleep is special about sex?
Ladies have it alot...remember it is a form of exercise. ...the more you have the healthier you become

spyder880:
Of course I heard the information late like many people, up to 12 hours after it made it into the dailies that business mogul, Alhaji Aliko Dangote is about to slash cement prices by up to 40%. I got quite a number of calls from friends and readers of many of my articles on the supposed impact of this news in the building industry. My perspective on the whole thing are to be listed down in my points below;

1. How soon are we going to start buying cement for N1000.00?

I quickly called some of my heavy dealers in Dangote cement and questioned them about this, they said the company asked them yesterday to wait till 2 weeks so they could exhaust the old stock of cement before buying the new batch with lowered costs.

2. How much will you be selling the cement to us the unit consumers?

When I asked them this question, they were of the opinion that since they are supposed to be buying from Dangote at N1000.00 advertised, they will add their offloading charges and profit to the price, which means that you and me might be buying cement for between N1,100-N1,200, depending on your location.

3. Is this new cement exactly the same with the ones in the shops now?

They said its not! They said this cement will be of the 32.5 capacity, instead of the 42.5 in circulation now. Meaning that there is a possibility that this new cement coming in might not be as strong as the ones we are using now.

4. Will this mean that construction costs will fall overall?

Well it needs to be seen first, how much the prices will drop to and how the quality might turn out to be. If the fall is drastic and supplies constant, it might well ease off on project costs and benefit builders and home owners alike. It has the capacity to bring a construction boom if well managed.

5. What impact will this have on the other cement manufacturers and importers?

Do you that there is some news in the grapevine about the real reasons for the price drop being as a result of intense competition and a need to command more market share among cement producers? In this case the competition is expected to react, either reduce prices as well or increase quality, or even drop supplies, creating a heavy scarcity since Dangote is expected to flooded with a deluge of orders. What happens next? Another price increase to scare off surplus demands. Competition is unpredictable.

6. Will it affect the cost of rents, will landlords reduce rents?

That is like wishing for too much, since we have not even seen the reduction, but however there are other factors in construction which needs to drop before rents can drop. What about land costs and illegal fees? What about rods, sand, granite and labour costs, will they all soft-pedal like Dangote?

7. Does this have political undertones, especially ahead of 2015 general elections?

Don't put me in trouble, I don't know!

I still believe cement manufacturer are over us at #1000. cement is a straight forward product from limestone and gypson which have in abundant in Nigeria. a bag of cement should be #700.

I still believe that the quality of the cement will still remain thesame but may be setting time may be a bit different

spyder880:
Updates. .....

Very nice building but the roof is not properly done. The design in the left handside is not properly done. Many people used to do similar mistake for such work. I will be sendind a revit model of how I taught tje roof could have been done

Shawls:
@Spyder880
Pls, kindly help with a rough estimate for retaining wall (fence ) of 70m.
I got the following quote for materials

150bags of cement @N1650/bag
2tons of 12mm rods @ N100k each
1 & 1/2 tons 10mm @ N115k each
2loads of granite @ N100k each
6loads of sharp sand (double) @ N16k each

I hope the unit you gave is wrong.
try to get the perimeter of the retaining wall ( fence), the height and the thickness of the wall.
Try to know the type of retaining wall to be use, examples includes: gravity retaining wall, concrete retaining walls with footings ( so many type depending on the choice of the structural engineers) and finally infilled sancrete retaining wall.

A beter way to get extimate is to get the following details:
1.perimeter of the wall
2.height of the wall ( both super and sub structure)
3.thickness of the wall ( for reinforced concrete retaining wall)
4. dimension of the footings of the retaining wall ( for concrete retaining wall)

The material needed includes the following:
1. soft 1x12 apu wood for formwork ( concrete retaining wall)

2. sharp sand
3.3/4 gravel
4.Y12 or Y16 reinforced rode ( depending on design result)
5.ordinary portland cement
6. sancrete block

danjumakolo:
Nope u have derailed...
He did not say kill.in his name.
Suicide bombing isn't Islam.
Islam only says fight and defend your yourself..your life,property,land,religion etc...

keep saying that to yourself. ..how funny you sound when the part " fight and defend your religion". The truth dont need to be defended by swords.
Any religion that promote any religion that promotes any form of violence followers need to be arrested and jailed for live because they deserve to live among us humans

bnovative:
That is what it is bro. U are able to reason this way because u are educated, how about the majority of children roaming the street of the north without education? children who are brainwashed at islamia ,what can they possibly think. The same brain that birth suicide bombers will make them kill, thinking they are hurting Gej

The problem ia not northerner killing notherner because Jonathan( a southerner ) is the president. ..The problem is Nigeria northern society ( Nigeria society at large) give in to ridiculous religious ideology which is dangerous to human development.

Northern society is at fault for the following
1. Almajiri system is a northern system which leads to enslavement of children from the poor (talakawa). it also encourages high birth per capital since parent don't share responsibility tk the upbringing of such children. Thr end product been that society is filled with empty brain large unproductive people which can easily be recruited by extremist

2. Northern political system is too religiously base which always favours sentiment over merit resulting in large infrastructure defeciet.
People are so poor that the only thing that matter to them is imaginary virgin in heaven,milk and honey

3.Greedy Northern elit intentionally under developed the educational sector so that education is mainly for very rich in affluent in society. Though exceptions are katsina and sokoto.

Jonathan's contributions to the problem are
1.inability to use resource in his disposal to fight extremism and protect the life and properties of his country men.peoole who voted him president.

2. Inability to take a bold step towards abolition of almajiri system in Northern Nigeria

3. poor economic policy which has resulted into more unemplement and poverty

danjumakolo:
God has promised he will leave son of Adam do what he likes on this earth,but he has gvn us free will to do btw right and wrong...we shall be held

Being an agnost or atheist will not take u anywhere

another absurdity from cave men diary...
God gave his beloved creature the free will to killed each other in his name and ending up punishing them with hell...

Hiswordxray:
Here you are again, proving how knowledgeable you are.

Take my advice and work on our fruit.
It is life you need, it is life that will transform you.
Knowledge is useless.

why do God need hell to burn his children he promise he lovee so dearly for committing sins he knows they will commit before creating them?

Before we were born, God knows where we will end up ( heaven or hell). he gave us free will so that we can sin and go to hell, at thesame time punishing us for our imperfections which were is own doing.

The concept of bible and Christianity sound more like a fairytale written by cunning men to exploit people.

pliss how much is the cheapest ticket from ph to abuja ?

MadCow1:
Nope....

Three classes of people;


White... Caucasin
Black... Africans/Niggas
Yellow.. Asians & Middle East.

Racial classification has no scientific bases, it is a political tool for west to show superiority btw humans are not classify has stateted above.

Human racially classify into
1. Niggriod... inhabitants of sub-sahara Africa and their offspring in western World.

2. Caucasian....Native of Europe, middle east, North Africa, North America, Australia, New zealand, central Asia ( Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, india). etc

3.Mongolite. .. South east Asians ( Japan, Korea, china, Vietnam, thailand, Philippine etc), asia pacific ( Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore etc), Original inhabitants of North and south America ( colloquially refers to as ' red Indians' ).

4. Australoid.... original inhabitants of places like Austrilia ( called aboriginal), Newzealand, Papua new guinea, indonesia, Southern India.

But all these are political defination of human based on physical apearance

MadCow1:
He said 'White Man'..

Why are you asking about Brown and Yellow people.

No such thing as white, yellow or Brown people. You are either pale, very pale or dark, very dark...

Early 2000 Hong kong jetli movie.. the short nigga will be kicking all all the chink in his cities asses as if he is only one that knows kung fu...Their was this scene he threw a lady into the air, went on to fight off 10 guys, came back the same spot to catched the lady before she could drop to the floor.... u
I was like wtf