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theTranscriber:When did I say it was an achievement? I'm saying that I have nothing against polygamy as you wrongly claimed you keep on trying to make it seem like i'm pandering towards western views when infact my views are from an African pov |
theTranscriber:Where did they say it was a taboo as you claim? It may not have been normal in the sense that most people weren't like them but they were there and weren't considered weird or out of place and it definitely wasn't taboo And what do you mean by it was to survive? Survive what and who? |
mtisTheQubit:I'm not actually sure about gay marriage in pre colonial socieities I know of gay intercourse in pre colonial socieites but for anything else is a blank spot for me |
vankelvin:Go and read the links I posted and search about Igbo female husbands I will do some research on the Akan people and i'll get back to you no one will rest today till you get sense by force ![]() |
mtisTheQubit:I'm in the process of doing that and why would I let a dude touch my bum that shit digusts me but it is something that was accepted by those in pre colonial African socieites and in any case we should live in a society of live and let live as long as it isn't actually vile or evil |
theTranscriber:See this is your problem you assume my views are based on a western pov I believe in polygamy my great grandfather practiced polygamy so how could I be against it? My views are of African origin and culture it is you who is blinded by the whites and the west not me |
theTranscriber:I stg this is the third and last fucking time that i'm posting these links if you still can't get them then I don't know it's just nairaland being special https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808346/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity Now after reading those go and look into the Igbo practice of 'female husbands' where women married other women it's okay you will lose this argument today and see how wrong you are |
mtisTheQubit:It has nothing to do with western culture my views are from African religion and culture why do you believe so strongly that it is of western origin when i've posted links to disprove it but for whatever reason no one here has bothered to read a basic article |
theTranscriber:I'm talking about Uganda and Rwanda in this situation and you never solely talked about yorubaland if you cared about in Yorubaland you would have read the links that i've given you twice now but clearly you're too fucking thick to click on a fucking link and read |
vankelvin:Go and do some research you clearly haven't bothered to so until you do we'll keep on running in circles you're wasting both of our time |
mtisTheQubit:Incest is a taboo but homosexuality isn't idc about the Greeks we're talking about African culture and religion |
vankelvin:True if it isn't frowned upon then it is accepted by the populace It wasn't done secretly though it is a practice that was at the time known by the people and it wasn't frowned upon so there was no reason to do it in secret and since when was sexuality a cultural concept? It was there it was never taboo and it was normal for people to practice it unlike what you and a lot of other people are claiming |
theTranscriber:Oh so now you're changing the basis you need huh? You told me to bring evidence of ANYONE in the past who did it openly without stigma and now you;re chaning again well unfortunately I can't bring up a common man who practiced it because it wasn't unique or even special so why would they remember the names of those who did it? If it was a taboo you don't think they'd have recorded the names of those few who practiced it openly? You didn't think of that now did you, it was a practice that was normal and was allowed to be practiced freely in most parts of Africa so those who did it weren't really remembered as special only reason why the kings and queens in Uganda and Rwanda are remembered is because they were the first of royal families to do it and because people from abroad like Muslim and Christian traders found out and they thought it weird that there was no stigma or discrimination against those who practiced it |
theTranscriber:Incest has always been bad but homosexuality hasn't it isn't up for argument go and read the links I said then go and do more research it was never a taboo in most parts of Africa and i'm still waiting for you to bring evidence for your claims |
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vankelvin:Does it have to be adored? I'm saying it was never taboo or frowned upon they were just there living their life as normal And I only told you about the kings and queens in Uganda and Rwanda who practiced homosexuality |
theTranscriber:I posted them before here they are again https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808346/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity Now after reading those go and look into the Igbo practice of 'female husbands' where women married other women it's okay you will lose this argument today and see how wrong you are |
theTranscriber:I posted them go and look through the last four pages they were never looked down upon you asked for an example use this Another generative Yoruba concept is adodi, plural of ado, indicating a man who erotically loves other men. In one pataki, Yemayá travels to a land filled only with adodi, where she falls in love with an ado. In another, she divorces her husband Orula, whom she discovers is an ado, though variants of this legend say that Orula left Yemayá for the male orisha Ogún |
theTranscriber:Go and read the links then come back to me you haven't provided a single source for your beliefs and i've provided three if you can't argue with evidence then stfu |
This discussion is staining my search history |
theTranscriber:I gave you links did you even bother to read them? My information is from scholars and babalawos and I will tell you for free that you don't know more then they do |
mtisTheQubit:It's not a white man thing it was here before they came, we knew about it before they came and we never had stigma against it before they came all this stigma came with the white man |
vankelvin:My problem is Africans being unaware of their past history, culture and religion to believe that they were demonized in the past is wrong I don't care what the topic is if Africans are reciting their history or culture wrong through sheer ignorance I will attack it |
theTranscriber:I gave you some posts in yoruba culture and religion showing homosexuality go and read them then come back to me And it doesn't have too celebrate it does it? I said it was tolerant of it and they were able to freely practice it |
mtisTheQubit:Being gay doesn't make you a pussy now does it? |
mtisTheQubit:I don't practice it but I know some who do and I can tell you it's natural You tried to use animals as a point without realizing that animals are also gay there've been gay dolphins, gay lions, gay monkeys, gay leopards we've seen it all in all shapes and forms across nature whether you like it or not it's natural |
theTranscriber:Logun ede is a yoruba deity that was transgender and I promise you there's stories and music about him go and look for it. Now read these articles and educate yourself https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808346/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity Now after reading those go and look into the Igbo practice of 'female husbands' where women married other women it's okay you will lose this argument today and see how wrong you are |
mtisTheQubit:I'm just telling you the religion that majority of Africans on this forum practice and the version that they read was written by a gay person i'm just killing that point that anyone wants to use before it can be used but if you want to talk African culture from here on out by all means I can do that |
mtisTheQubit:Who's blaming homosexuality on anyone? It's a natural thing that was everywhere the view of other cultures on it is different though |
theTranscriber:That's false there's quite literally a transgender deity in the yoruba religion who passes from both male to female throughout the year and has sexual relations with both male and females whenever they switch does that not tell you that they had a concept of gender fluidity in the past? |
mtisTheQubit:Your society must be very small because in every single major African empire homosexuality wasn't frowned upon and was allowed to be practiced openly from Rwanda to Burundi to Buganda to Oyo to Aro to Nri to Fon to Asante to Dahomey to Ghana to Kongo to Zulu doesn't matter where If you bothered to make a few searches or just read about pre colonial African views on gender and sex you'd have a better understanding |
Just30:It is possible but unlikely my estimate is on average 2-7% of the population but the numbers could be a lot higher |
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