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Shma:
Jorburg is like old Nairobi CBD. Nairobi downtown to be precise. It's clogged with buildings that there is no room for expansion. Nairobi has expanded its link to new areas like westlands and upperhill which were previously void with few residential. Now when you see upperhill and westlands, you'll be wowed by the rate at which Nairobi is growing. We're now focusing on ngara, two rivers, South C, kilimani and the rest. What we're discussing here is not rocket science. You guys are just debunking everysh*t without internalizing what is said.

Joburg is a whole city you're referring to what we call 'Town' in Joburg and same way Nairobi has westlands and upperhill, Joburg has Sandton, Fourways, Midrand, Rosebank and Waterfall it is neither stagnant nor clogged

Olu317:
The concept of religion differs from place to place in the Afro-Asia world,from time immemorial.

This is the reason the Egyptians Pharaoh understanding of creation and creator differs as a God with horn as(has form) as compared to God without known face,such as the Yorubas and the Hebrew.

No one true Egyptologists doubt the inhabitation of ancient Hebrew in Africa. Infact, there are ample evidence that support this information . Citing the fact of Christianity in African shows to say a challenge concept of God which differs and absorbed the aboriginal minute concept inside a superior concept which overan the aboriginal ideology of God.

For instance,the language of Christianity in Egypt was Hebrew language identified as Coptic language, which was spoken as a foreign language by Egyptians ,so also some and earlier Hebrew settlement aswell as followers of Hebrew ancient ritual form of worship, in many places in Egypt land such Jaffa, Alexandra, Hellinopolis, Yebu, Aswan, Land of Onias etc.

The same Coptic language is a liturgy in Egypt orthodox church, Ethiopia,Sudan, NearEast as well as in Europe. Interestingly,the only speaker of Coptic protolanguage are the Yorubas.

Can you explain it how Yoruba language travelled far to Egpyt and found its footing in that kingdom pre and post Christianity ? Meanwhile it was before Islam overan outrightly that land due to laxity of the Orthodox Christians who preferred not to fight anymore and hung unto God to fight for them before they fled to deep down to Sudan and West Africa.

You're waffling there's no Hebrew influence in Sub Saharan Africa and there's nothing special about their religion or culture it is simply an amalgamation of dozens of different religions from that region that they used to take land from the Canaanites and somehow also got the Roman empire to adopt

Mkenya2019:
Every city in the world is building something. Building one or two malls or one tall building is order of the day. What Nairobi is doing is massive. Entire neigherbhood like Kilimani, Westlands and Parklands is one massive construction site. I wont even count the rest of Nairobi...everywhere is massive construction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVEZTpzQNQ&t=405s

3 malls in one small streets in Kilimani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EzxkPCdIpY&t=394s

Not everywhere is something being built and his point was that there was no construction and Joburg was dead that's false so stop trying to change the initial point and the Mall of Africa alone is larger then most malls in Nairobi so you can't compare them to each other at all

Jandexpat:
The title is very misleading, he did not defect.

He left YPP after the elections for this reasons:
1. The party did not have a grassroot base and the members of the party were not passionate enough to grow their base.
2. The board of the party sold out to highest bidder towards the election for flag bearers in different categories.
3. They did not believe in Prof's vision.

Now 2 years later, after critically evaluating the lessons learnt from his last outing.
He knew:
I. If he joined PDP, the money bags within will win the primaries
2. If he join APC like Osibanjo and Tinubu, his vision for Nigeria will be killed even if he wins as the cabal will control him.
3. He needed a party with an established grassroot base and key allies what we call expired moneybags who want to break the cabal though Prof's vision might eat into their future profit but they can both achieve their goals.

So instead of us to deriding him, if we all join the party enmasse, we can become the 3rd force because the diff btw ADC and the other 2 parties is numbers, me you and your village people.

Let's do this.

It's not only that YPP rejected the mega 3rd force merger party proposed by Mailafia and Falana but Mogahlu agreed with the ideology so he joined ADC the largest party of those trying to create the mega merger so very soon we could have a massive third force party with Moghalu as the presidential candidate and if Nigerians fail to take that opportunity then frankly there's no hope

rvp2018:
Rapidly and expanding - - NOt it's almost a dead city. Post world-cup 2010 - pretty outside Sandton - it's mostly dead.

So the new development of waterfall with the mall of Africa and Pwc Africa headquarters and a range of others developments is dead?

Rosebank mall and the buildings coming up there as well are dead?

The new developments in fourways like the expansion of fourways mall and the construction of 4 massive flyovers is dead?

And those are only the ones I can remember off the top of my head

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Thank you for the information I did not know because I am a woman or so and do not wear bikinis. We need more geniuses like you

You're a woman and you don't wear a Bikini?

NubaVertigo:
What you are seeing in Nigeria are not tribes

Yes they are what are you talking about the Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Edo, Ibibio etc are all ethnic groups or what are called tribes so yes Nigeria's problem isn't nationalism but tribalism it would be a different story if these nations weren't clearly ethnicity or tribally based then your point would actually make sense

Olu317:
You mentioned Hebrew as non existence , is thr reason I posted the screenshot.

Secondly, Egyptian account stated categorically the existence of Hebrew written ideogram in mount Sinai. If you want to see the screenshot, then ask me to showcase again.

Thirdly,Ethiopian account testify to the Hebrew as a real existing group of people who lived also in Africa at a point in history. This can also be found in the earlier existence of Orthodox christianity founded by Saint Mark , the apostle. He founded Yeshua worship in Egypt , around First Century C.E

Fourthly, the ancient Hebrew helped Egyptians tamed Snake poison because they mastered the usage of herbs. This account is also inscribed in Egyptians Heiroghlyph, which was translated by Professors. If you need name of the professors involved .

Fifthly,the oldest tool found in Africa is in Morocco.
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Sixthly, the oldest human fossil found in Africa is in Morocco.

Seventhly, the third oldest human fossil found outside Africa is in Israel.

Eithly, the oldest dna group in Africa is not Yorubas group.

Ninethly, Four groups in West Africa have different genetic linked to Neanderthal which is purely patrilineal gene. These four groups are also related.

Tenthly, Yoruba calendar chronological reading is Semitic in nature


Cheers

I never said that the Hebrews didn't exist i said the influence they had on Africa was nonexistent and there's no actual link

Why does it matter that the oldest known human fossil was found in Morocco?

Then concerning your statements on Egypt and Ethiopia notice how late into history that already is the first century CE when most peoples groups had already established their land, cultural names, religions and were slowly moving onto ages of scientific evolution how exactly did the Hebrews do anything to influence them as you claim.

And why is it even a surprise that the third oldest human fossil is found outside of Afirc was in Israel? That just shows the scientific theories of out of Africa are correct where else would they have gone to from Africa? Israel was the easiest route out so how exactly is that even a logical piece of evidence? And the funny thing is that the most likely case is that those fossils probably don't even belong to the ancestors of the Hebrew but rather to the ancestors of the Canaanites whom the Hebrew used their so called one true God and the Bible to conquer and that alone should tell you why this whole Hebrew religion, stories and so called Semitic link between them and other Africans groups is all bullshit

Okay bring the hieroglyphics of the supposed Hebrews teaching the Egyptiand about Snake poision but i'd like to remind you there was a hieroglyph found in Egypt depicting all the different groups they'd come into contact with and the Hebrews weren't there it was The Egyptians themselves, The Nubians, The Libyans and The Hitites unless you now want to claim the Hitites as Hebrews which would go against the stories in the Bible because the Hitites constantly attacked and invaded Egypt but nowhere in the Bible does it mention such.

And finally the Yoruba calendar isn't semitic in origin it is simply a lunar calendar which is followed by every other ethnic group within Africa and for most new year is either in June or July it's only the Zulu that have their new year in September as far as I know if truly the Yoruba's calnder was semitic in origin why is their new year over three months prior to the Hebrew new year?

There is no semitic link or anything between the group and you need to stop trying to force this link that doesn't exist

PROUDIGBO:
I’ve always wondered why the building hasn’t been put to use. Hope he didn’t erect it mainly as eye-candy for his gubernatorial bid! In this time of COVID and other health challenges, a medical facilities like that could have helped a lot!

He built it years ago and it was in use previously but he likely pulled funds away from it for this gubernational bid

SouthNigeriac:
Stop wailing and separate first

I've told you the truth you can't even give me an educated rebuttal, shows just how misinformed and uneducated most of you separatists truly are

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Please I am begging darkside and all the Nigerian here can you explain what has gone wrong with the picture should of tiwa savage. I wish I could bring her into the suffering and smiling shoe 2021

You probably look like a donkey she's sexy stfu

NubaVertigo:
There is a difference between tribalism and nationalism. Not knowing the difference is wack

What we experience in Nigeria is tribalism it is based on ethnic groups or tribes and not on any nation the sole foundation for these nations existence is built upon tribalism so your point is null and void from the start

SouthNigeriac:
All this unnecessary political bla bla and sentiment igbos are against Tinubu, yorubas are against obi.


All this are irrelevant, too sophisticated, too liberal, bla bla bla

Let's come out and end this contraption to avoid nonsense and then we can exist as friendly country, while Tinubu rules Oduduwa nation, obi rules Biafra

1. There's no possible way for Nigeria to split peacefully it's impossible

2. If you want Tinubu and Obi to rule these two nations you're not solving a single problem that we currently have in Nigeria our problem is bad leadership by putting them in power within these tribal nations all you're doing is repeating the cycle of bad leadership that Nigeria is already plagued in and from there the movement for Ijebu nation or Anioma nation will begin and they will continue splitting till they come to their senses and bring back one Nigeria and provide a proper system but it's not like the division would happen in the first place.

3. It is an ultimate loop that can never be avoided so the best thing for us is to try in the next elections to elect the leaders we want in power and put them there rather then lamenting and blaming Nigeria for our problems instead of ourselves for voting in and allowing mediocrity

Olu317:
I have never said there were no Ajaka but that the one who was the enthroned as Oba in Oyo,was erroneously called Ajaka when infact, his real name was Ajasa. And he was also the one known as Dada because he kept his own dreadlocks during his reign as Oloyo.

While I have no issue with the oriki, but just curiosity,which made me ask the question.

The other point on ileife unifying city,is that if anyone profess to be Yoruba, such must be identified with a family members at Ileife. Even the empe groups that came with Oranmiyan have families at Ileife who are already interwoven with other Yoruba groups.

I am also familiar with the Idoko-Yoruba related groups in Yorubaland, even Awujale is a descendant of Obalufon, despite the fact that there are intermarriages that bonded them all.

Oranmiyan also had a son whose mother was a descendant of Obalufon Alayemore that gave birth to Lajamisan; the one whose lineage of Oranmiyan rules at Ileife, with the knowledge of all other Yoruba lead kings at Ileife such as the kings at Ido,Iloromu,Parakin, Omologun ,Oke Awo,Iwinrin, Ijugbe, Iraaye,Imojubi,Oke Oja, Iloran,Odin,Ideta .

So, using panegyric can be helpful in identifying of one's family and root at Ileife, no matter how long one has been home. Every descendants have a link to Ileife.

Peradventure, you have information to share on it which differs,then I will like to know. Although, I will emphasis here that Are crown belong to Odua dynasty and not as speculated wrongly. But certain family play ritual role when crowning a new Ooni from Odua dynasty , which solely lies now with Jegbe Odede Oranmiyan


Cheers

I thought Ajasa was the original name of Porto Novo

Paretomaster1:
Sense... Besides with the way the Biafra is being pursued with so much hate, how will the relationship with other Nigerians be like even if Biafra is achieved?

Will the average Northerner being insulted daily for no reason, and subject of attacks still view d average Igbo in the North the same way again ?

Will the Biafrans still transact business, and leave In d Zoo?

Exactly they'd basically become ostracized within Nigeria and Nigeria being a member of ECOWAS would also make life difficult for them to trade with other African countries

Deserea:
Thanks. Do you know the exact shrine Some said it's Obosi while others are saying Agulu. Where exactly is it located. Thanks

As a say there's multiple shrines personally i'd go to the one based in Obosi it's close to a place called Nkwo square in Obosi but I don't know the exact road it's on

Deserea:
I heard it gives wealth and success. How can I connect? Thanks

You must remember wealth and success doesn't come for free what is likely to happen when you go into the shrine looking for Idemilli is you will have to buy foodstuffs for the initial sacrifice to appease her then after that she will give you guidance on how to achieve it if you don't follow the guidance given then you will fail and you must remember patience is essential in this process.

But I will say i've never personally tried these things before so becareful to not get scammed

There's no singular major shrine for Idemilli rather wherever the river niger flows through is where there would be a shrine dedicated to Idemilli at but unfortunately a lot of these shrines have been burnt down or closed down by Christians or by colonial officers so finding one may be difficult but as far as I know there should be one in both Asaba and Onitsha

IGpro1:
lol...the thread is becoming stale.





For a person to be sexually attracted to same sex is nothing but d e m o n I c.

It's not demonic it's a natural preference and no amount of religion can change that fact

Igboid:
NIGERIA and prosperity cannot be in the same sentence.
Even your Political rulers Know it, which is why they are all sending their children abroad.

NIGERIA is a dead end.

Nigeria and propserity can be in the same sentence your shortsighted tribalistic mindset won't lead us anywhere

I have no political rulers those in power don't represent the true will and the true path Nigeria will eventually take

Nigeria is not a dead end rather Nigeria is in a long stretch of bad road but soon it will hop onto the good stable road to prosperity what is stopping it is us Nigerians wasting our time on separatist movements and other useless cries instead of organizing ourselves into political movements and parties to take power and enact the reforms we desperately need

Olu317:
Tell me your belief why Yorubas are not the oldest Africans from immomerial with genetic findings?

Proof it by Showing interrelationships amongs Africans only without the Levants imput,Assyrians, Babylonians,Persians,Roman-Latin, Greek, Arabs input!


Save me with your personal view! Documented archeological findings has shown written documented ideograms such as the one shown below in screenshot in Israel, even in Mount Sinai as well as other places pointing at Hebrews footprint in Africa, such as Morroco in North Africa,Songhai and Chad Basin in
West Africa. A three thousand years ideograms
inscriptions.

It is even absord I engage your type of person who come online having zero knowledge of a historical account of ancient people and boast. Wonder shall never end.

And how exactly is that rock with hebrew inscriptions that is only 3000 years old have anything to do with African ideograms, religion and culture? When the ancestors of us modern day Nigerians were already making stone tools over 250 000 years ago in the lush forests of igboland and were making pottery in the caves of Yorubaland other 13 000 years ago infact in that same cave with pottery called Iwo eleru they also found inscriptions of odu ifa and other ideograms the community is going to decipher the writings of odu ifa signs within the caves soon but the ultimate point is that our religions, cultures, languages and technologies were already there and the Hebrews didn't do anything to influence us until the Europeans came and opened up the world more.

Olu317:
Tell me your belief why Yorubas are not the oldest Africans from immomerial with genetic findings?

Proof it by Showing interrelationships amongs Africans only without the Levants imput,Assyrians, Babylonians,Persians,Roman-Latin, Greek, Arabs input!


Save me with your personal view! Documented archeological findings has shown written documented ideograms such as the one shown below in screenshot in Israel, even in Mount Sinai as well as other places pointing at Hebrews footprint in Africa, North Africa,Songhai and Chad Basin in
West Africa


It is even absord I engage your type of person who come online having zero knowledge of a historical account and boast. Wonder shall never end.

I never said that Yorubas weren't the oldest my point is that the link you're trying to force between Yoruba and Hebrew doesn't exist.

If you want inter relationships between Africans only then the west African forest region is the greatest example you can find they didn't have any major contact with any other group till the 12 century and even before then they already had their own language, religion, architecture and indigenous forms of story telling, music, weaving and even metal working the only groups that actually experienced Roman-Latin and Greek influences were those in North Africa and the Muslims didn't bring their influence south into Africa until the 9th century and when I say influence I mean actual established trade routes and actually converting whole empires.

And the Levants and Babylonians and what not they have no influence whatsoever maybe on the architecture, science and maths of the Ancient Egyptians but apart from that what did they really do to us in the African interior?

The presence of ideograms doesn't automatcally indicate the presence of a singular cultural hegemony or group and I would liek you to show me these so called historical and scholarly based evidence that proves the Hebrew had presence in Songhai and the Chad Basin

jl115:
personally I feel ActionSA is the new dark horse in South African politics..... I think they will be kingmaker in several municipalities in Gauteng this November

Like always the DA will have my vote in local elections simply due to the fact that my municipality is the best run municipality in SA.... However national elections it will be ActionSA in 2024

I'm not sure if they'll actually be able to win the presidential election the opposition against them from EFF supporters is very strong

ojay72:
Chidozie Nwankwo of AAC has got my vote. He's more than capable to take Anambra to greater heights.

He needs to work a lot harder I haven't heard or seen his name anywhere on the news or even on nairaland

FreeSpirited:
Waiting on queue to loot his on loot out of the crumbling system that can not salvaged unless it is dismantled to the ground for a new good foundation

Have you even seen what he did for his community with his own money? He built affordable housing, a 14 storey tall medical research building, a hospital, a primary and secondary school and he also built roads there as wel and you're here claiming he will loot? If anything he will do the same to Anambra what he did with his community provide development

Physarhyorh:
I haven't really seen moghaolu in the political front all this while, it's now I'm seeing him, abi it's just me?

If he is serious, he should be visible and do is part as an oposition party

If you actually tried to follow him you'd see that he's been doing a lot he formed a political movement to support his presidential ambition, He joined NCfront to petition for change in Nigeria and he's made his plans and his intentions for Nigeria very clear multiple times since 2019 your ignorance is not an excuse to spread fallacies

Bookhub:
Nigeria will not collapse ,Igbo and Niger delta will go then Yoruba and Fulani can continue their marriage,Afterall sudan didnot dissolve after the south left..

Niger delta isn't going anywhere and neither are the Igbos

Gentlerespect76:
PrinceofLagos you are just like Falseprophet here on Nairaland. Last week he prophesied that Whitemoney will not emerge winner. That if that happens he will never prophesy on Nairaland anymore. Today, he has gone AWOL. My advice is that you are not God; keep your thought about Nigeria to yourself because whereas you call others fools; it is God that knows with certainty what we happen. Left for us, Nigeria is gone. When will you realize this, oh Issau?

Nigeria isn't going anywhere and your Hebrew God can't decide shit for us here in Nigeria

Rugaria:
I'm done with Nigeria. A union with you fulani and afonjas will result to nothing but misery , underachievement and embarrassment.. we no do again..A new republic pls..

I'm literally an Igbo from Aboh kingdom in delta state so what's this about? I find it hilarious that whenever someone supports Nigeria they suddenly become Yoruba or Fulani when it is clear that there are millions of Igbos in and out of Nigeria still in support of one Nigeria.


But if you're foolish enough to want a civil war in this era of massive firepower I can only wish you the best if you think the death toll witnessed in the first civil war was large you won't be ready for this one i'm talking 20-30 million dead people lining the streets of Igbo land don't be a fool

The smartest thing we can do is find the right parties and support the right candidates into power and make sure they bring in the right reforms needed for Nigeria to prosper

vaxx:
You like wording but make sure it impactful, don't just be a tallkertive without iota of knowledge.

I am interested in your knowledge not in your wordings . Peace .

I have no clue of what you just said

NTSA:
The bottom line is Nairobi is fast catching up

It's not catching up to anything it's still over 200 buildings away unless South Africa were to stagnate in terms of buildings it would take them about 10 years at 20 or so buildings completed year on year but South Africa is still building new things and if either DA or ActionSA come into power then any vision of catching up to South Africa is unlikely

Rugaria:
You are right! It will not devide!! It will simply IMPLODE and then EXPLODE!!!

So you'd rather have a massive bloody civil war in 2021 I will remind you rather then simply find a good leader who can give Nigeria the reforms needed in order to be successful as a nation?