₦airaland Forum

jaxxy:
Christians will not vote a Muslim/Muslim ticket. Selecting tinubu will be a huge disaster for Apc.

Unless buhari has already concluded to give it to Atiku.

Why shouldn't the Yoruba vote for Tinubu given that they say religion for them is secondary? Or religion is only secondary in Yoruba land when and where the Christian interests are served?

If the SW will vote for Tinubu en bloc, he will definitely do better in the north although may not outperform Atiku. Point is, he's the only one out there who can even try and give Atiku a good run for his money. Anyone is a walkover for AA.

Tinubu is the only man that can match Atiku on any count.

Osinbajo is seen by northerners as a religious bigot who is bent to Christianize (RCCGify) Nigeria.

Recebt survey shows 99% of those Osinbajo hired or work with are RCCG pastors/members.

Let's be honest, shall southern Christians vote Pantami, a Sheikh as president? If not, why should northerners vote? Osinbajo, a Pastor and Christian extremist?

Tinubu is the only man that can match Atiku on any count.

Osinbajo is seen by northerners as a religious bigot who is bent on Christianizing (RCCGifying) Nigeria.

Recent survey shows 99% of those Osinbajo hired or work with are RCCG pastors/members.

Let's be honest, shall southern Christians vote Pantami, a Sheikh as president? If not, why should northerners vote Osinbajo, a Pastor and Christian extremist?

While I am not opposed to a southern candidate. It is important to note that this decision is informed by sentiment not by any political arithmetic of Apc winning elections.

At the moment, no southern candidate can match Atiku. Tinubu will definitely give Atiku some troubles but can he win enough northern and Southern votes to defeat AA? I doubt!

Obagreatdatoye:
Can you post the full list of his staffs...and lets evaluate it here. .. to validate your point...

Google it and see. We're u on Jupiter when the list trended?

Ojuntana:
Yeah. And Muslims in Europe go to mosque abi?
And every modern day citizen thinks a religion of murders and pedophilia, domestic abuse and child marriage, enslavement and polygamy is logical and scientific abi?
Think before you talk na
What good is in Islam that anyone would want to copy

Pedophiles? Go to the Catholic Church.

Do muslims go to the mosque in Europe? Come to the UK and see! Mosques are filled to the brim but only a few old ppl attend church services.

Polygamy? Ask ur xtian father before God and man if he does cheat on ur mother or not? U will be shocked with the answer. Is that not Polygamy de facto?

NaijaCowFarm:
Please, stop. The Quoran a copy of the old Testament Bible!!

For u to have made this comment, it shows that u have never read the Quran.

Obagreatdatoye:
Lol....your name even shows how dumb you are....can you point out at any point in time Oshinbajo have shown any extremism in handling any matters?
Please i'm waiting....depe!

99.99% of his staff and those he hired are RCCG pastors/members.

Can u falsify this fact?

Bunch of jokers!

Write this down!

We northerners will never bypass Atiku (a social and economic liberal ) to vote for an Christian fundamentalist ( Osinbajo) whose main goal is to Christianize (RCCGify) Nigeria.

Never!

With a Christian extremist Osinbajo as its candidate, the APC has alteady lost the 2023 elections before it even contested it.

Is Pope a prophet?

Why must you look for excuses to copy muslims?

No xtians, except Nigerians, go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem all to copy muslims.

Few Christians even go to Church in Europe from whence xtianity came to Africa. Every modern day citizen know xtianity is an illogical and unscientific religion except Nigerians who must copy muslims.

Malory:
Oyegun will be on the good side of history if he truly disqualified old and entitled men that has destroyed our country. This is good for our democracy

He also disqualified the Christian extremist, Osinbajo!

Malory:
I wonder what an old man like Tinubu who is almost 90 years is looking for in Aso rock

I wonder what a young man like you who supposed to have been too busy managing his company as to find time to write rubbish is here striving to be the first to comment

MashaAllah. Let's quickly flood useful topics like this with our useful comments before followers of the "religion of love" crawl out and start spreading their "love" all over the comment section.

Building a biolab and a center to supervise the destruction of Nigeria and the pillaging of its resources.

Thanks God Northern Nigerians know America for what it is. The southerners can continue to lick the dirty a.ss of the USA for as long as they want. The whole world know America for who it is: a terrorist state.

Nobody in the APC today can defeat Atiku Abubakar in the 2023 general election. Let us explore the scenarios of Atiku and a couple of prominent APC aspirants.

Atiku vs Osinbajo

This will be a walk over for Atiku. First, Whether true or false, the north and northerners have recently been inundated with hard-core evidence that Osinbajo is a Christian fanatic. This was confirmed by the fact that 99.9% of all those Osinbajo has hired or are working in his office are confirmed to be members of RCCG. Also the Pastor of his church is said to have prophesied that a member of the RCCG will be a president and northerners will not pave the way for the fulfilment of this prophety which will lead to the Christianization (or RCCGification) of Nigeria. Remember, religion is the first priority for northern Muslims.
Secondly, Osinbajo can only emerge as APC candidate through consensus and not through primary elections. In that case, Tinubu is going to feel hard done by and hence impossible to placate or be made to support the Apc consensus candidate in Osinbajo whom he publicly recently disowned as his political son. Here the possibility of Tinubu sabotaging the Apc consensus candidate comes up. This is moreso given that the PDP candidate (Atiku) has, to this day, remained a close Tinubu's political and business associate. Behind the scenes, I see Tinubu striking a deal with and working to deliver at least the minimum percentage of votes required for Atiku in the SW. Recall that, even without a Tinubu-led sabotage, the SW has very rarely historically voted as a bloc. The SW region being sophisticated politically has usually been won with slight margins. Plus, the igbos and SS who believe that the SW have usurped their chance will rather vote for Atiku to spite the SW's Osinbajo. I have heard/read many igbos already saying that it is either them or the north should continue ruling ad infinitum. There are also the Peter Obi supporters who will also not disappoint their man.
With the northern bloc votes, votes from the SW and the SS and SE, Atiku will easily trounce Pastor Yemi Osinbajo.


Atiku Vs Tinubu

This is a bit tougher for Atiku given Tinubu's war chest and organisational capabilities but still he (Atiku) will carry the day. The biggest albatross of the Apc fielding Tinubu is the choice of a vice. The muslim/muslim ticket will not fly. Northern Muslims will also not to sacrifice their numbers and allow a northern minority to be a Vp to tinubu. After all the smokescreen, northerners will still go for Atiku rather than Tinubu. Blood, they say, is thicker than water. Plus the SS and SE will also vote Atiku to spite Tinubu/SW. Heard the recent wike's outburst?

No northern or SE candidate ( Ahmad Lawan, Yahaya Bello, Abubakar Badaru, Umahi, Onu etc ) can match Atiku's networks, war chest, strategy, organisational capabilities etc.

Plus, add to this the widespread unpopularity of the Apc in the north and south occasioned by high inflation and hunger in the land.The killings of northerners in the East has also made northerners disinclined to an igbo candidature which Buhari is reportedly adamant about.Plus, of all the Apc cabals, only one is connected with the global powers that be who (of course indirectly) pick and choose our leaders for us: Babagana Kingibe. Mamman Daura, Malami, Adamu etc are all local (Nigerian) champions. They are nowhere near Ibb, Obj, Abdulssalami, TY Danjuma, Saraki, Aliyu Gusau all of whom are inclined to the PDP. Only Saraki will undo what Kingibe plots with the global powers that be. The others will just make one text msg about who they want the Nigerian president to be and so shall it be. If you know, you know.

Much as you or I might like or dislike it, Atiku is the next President of Nigeria. Write this down somewhere and remember this thread when the results of the 2023 elections are announced.

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fulaniHERDSman:

Banza!

Haha. E Don pain una?

Idiot man. What did he say about the killings of northerners in the east? And he wants northerners whose bros and sis are killed in his own backyard which he so approves by his silence to vote for him.

ECASH120:
The northern brotherliness in politics is what South does not have and will not have. Either Osinbajo or Tinubu needs to step down for South to challenge the north

True, the south doesn't have a single unifying factor. The concept of southern Nigeria is nebulous. Every Southerner identify with his tribe first and foremost and there are countless tribes. Christianity has no capacity to unite a people especially with the Pentecostal focus on prosperity preachmenets.

Northerners are of many tribes too but they're first and foremost muslims before they're anything else. Islam, unlike xtianity has a successful concept of universal brotherhood. Prominent scholars on Nigeria such as Peter M Lewis and Tom Forrest have since recognised the fact that Islam solves the problem of collective action for the Muslim North.

Illuminatiship:
I hate northerners

For their being united and strategic? It is easy to point an accessing finger at others or climb over your own heaps of blame and shortcomings to pass the blame to others. Look inwards for your problems. Why don't u and ur politicians be as strategic and united?


Anyway, do the northerners know you exist?

Hate kills

Do the igbos have any business in politics? I doubt.

BlazinGlory40:
I grew up in port harcourt but have visited my hometown uncountable times. Been to other parts of the south but not the north

I see. May God bless. This is the best chat I have had with anyone on NL. And I am happy it is with an Igbo man so as to confirm to me the futility of a blanket condemnation of any people. You are a good man. Keep it up. Best wishes. Hope to meet you some day. I am a northerner as u might have guessed. Currently studying abroad. It has really been nice chatting with u!

BlazinGlory40:
Yes I am and there are a lot more of us who are reasonable

Fair enough.

Bro. Have you been living in the East all your life or you traverse the north and south?

BlazinGlory40:
It’s not that they consent to it by keeping silent but it’s fear of being attacked as a result of speaking out.

This is reasonable. I now see. It happened to many northern elders at the onset of ghw Boko Haram.

By the way, are u igbo? To be honest, u sound unlike them in your approach though I know many igbos are civil and polite.

This is the video of Fatima and her four kids killed in Anambra.

If you, rightly, condemned the killing of Deborah but you don't condemn this, you are a HYPOCRITE!!!

pic.twitter.com/9jQbXHACvM

— Mr-Prince (@Prince_comm) May 24, 2022

BlazinGlory40:
I understand all the anger in the north about the criminality going on in the East right now. But know that not every igbo is in support of the madness in the East and also igbos are victims of those murderous groups too

It could be true that the vast majority of igbos may not support the killings in the east. But are they condemning it or doing anything against it? At least the sultan and some muslim leaders/scholars condemned the killing of Deborah but what have any igbo leader from Onu to Ngege to Nwajiuba or any Igwe said about the killings in the east. They all keep silent and silence could be seen as approval or consent. This is the issue with the mayhem I'm the east .

By the way,

The SW controls the economy and are the most educated.

The Igbos control commerce and businesses.

What do the Hausa/Fulani have? Their numbers which grant them political leverage. Will they surrender this for the igbos just to keep Nigeria one? I doubt.

BlazinGlory40:
Even if Nyesom Wike picks PDP ticket?

You got me there.

Actually Onu chances will be very bright with a Wike on the pdp ticket.

Wike's comment on Rivers being a Christian state and his demolition of mosques will play against him in the north.

But remember PDP have said they want to give a apc the same treatment it gave them in 2015. So if apc goes south, pdp will counteract that by going north.

Lol, the joke of the century.

No northerner will bypass Atiku or Saraki (PDP) or Kwankwaso (NNPP) and cast his vote for Onu whose people have not only been, to this day, insulting northerners and everyone but also have been killing northerners and chasing them out of the East like foreigners.

Plus, strategy-wise, it is politically suicidal for Buhari/Apc to field a southeasterner. Where can they secure the votes for him? In the East? Or will the Yorubas the Igbos have been calling names and telling that they prefer the Presidency to remain in the north to it rotating to SW, vote for them?

The Apc/Buhari can give their ticket to assuage Southeasterners or shed off the nepotism toga they want to shed off but not to win an election. Isn't democracy a game of numbers?

If the Apc gives an igbo man its ticket, then any body who gets the pdp ticket is the next President. This I know with near certainty.

bdon123:
U sound like someone who will want tp kii him becos of Muhammad matter? Extremist spoted

The guy wants to brag that he could insult other people's religious figures. I told he can do so on nairaland behind the cover of anonymity but not openly I the north.

BrownRoofRep:
Is it true that una SAW was a pedophile that 'married' 6 years old infant and was having carnal knowledge with 9 years old child?

This could as well have been said by a robot. Reveal ur identity or go to the north and say this if you are man or brave enough. Everyone can hide under a keyboard to write anything.

insidelife22:
I like the pastor, and i will give him a call later to appreciate him for his courage.

Let him or you go to North and do it if he's brave enough

Urheadmaster:
When will he visit prophet Muhammad

Mind your tongue!