₦airaland Forum

LukasPodolski:
and how is that your problem?

you stupid degenerate, Thunder fire your mother..

a foolish insignificant fellow talking trash about a tribe of over 35million.

stupid, why must Yorubas follow your agenda?

Again, thunder fire you slave. And may it fire all your generations past and present. That's all I have to say to you. I won't argue with a monkey.

LukasPodolski:
The Yorubas does not have anything in common with other Southern groups, we are only after our own interest, stop dreaming about the imaginary southern unity.

let's even assume that we agreed on Southern unity, how would those who practice Islam among us sabotage your imaginary plan?

I need answer to that, if you can't give me a concrete and plausible reason, then Nah Ogun go kee your father.

Yoruba must be the stupidest people on planet earth. I have never seen a race of seemingly educated people who have no instinct for self-determination or self rule. You must be monkeys not men.

Even the most backward and impoverished tribes of Ethiopia are willing to fight and die to rule themselves, but the Yoruba would rather just beg for the presidency and grovel at the feet of outsiders. Thunder fire you, slave.

pansophist:
I wonder what people like Gowon, Obasanjo and other southern leaders that fought against the Igbos when they've seen this scam called Nigeria from the beginning, what were they thinking? That supporting evil elsewhere will bring justice to them? I laugh.

I can only imagine how these pawns feel when they see what Nigeria has become today, of which they were an instrument of it. A total laughing stock globally. Nigeria should split, its just the only way. Northern Nigeria are similar to the Malian and Chadians, and south more to the Ghanaians and Ivorian. And the south seamlessly compliments each other culturally and linguistically.

Like MLK once said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere". The Igbos were bastardized in the quest for justice, and now, every other ethnic group will suffer for this. The Nigerian story.

Beautiful comment. Also notice that Ghana's economy grows at 6.3%. Ivory coast grows at 7.4% and Benin grows at 6.9% We in Nigeria grow at just 1.9% if not recession.

This Aboki leadership is unbearable. I can't even call myself a Nigerian anymore. This country is worthless. Burn it with fire.

Etinosa1234:
If u don't know, there are already efforts by fhe government to diversify the economy...
When talking abt government, u think abt what u want to achieve in the next 10 years. Do u think in the next 10 years, fuel will still be Makin up revenue

Lol... Hope u know firstly that we don't refine oil... So how is an unrefined oil Goin to grow an economy as the basis of transportation..

U are even using Africa as ur major point even when we have the poorest countries of the World...
By the time only the poorest countries want to afford ur oil, then u'll know how low u've become

Oil matters now, but will it do so in the next 10 years?

Oil (and gas) are the basis for fertilizer, plastics, pharmaceuticals, jet fuel, electricity, etc. etc. Only a fool would take the stance you are taking. The West African market for these products alone with worth billions.

Lagos has a GDP per capita of over $5,000 according to the Financial Times of London. This number is only $1,000 less than South Africa, and it implies that Lagos could reach developed nation status ($10,000 per capita) in less than 10 years assuming an annual growth rate of 7.5% and a stable population. Separation from Nigeria would encourage massive foreign direct investment into Lagos that is currently being scared away by Fulani herdsmen, islamic terrorism and instability.

Take for example Facebook, which plans to open its Africa headquarters in Lagos in 2021. This investment will provide ultra-high paying software engineering jobs to Nigerian youths. But the Facebook deal is at risk because of "Northern governors" who want to introduce a so-called "social media bill" to destroy free speech. Fulani-Nigeria also imposes a forex burden on Lagos, making it harder for businesses to obtain the dollars they need to smoothly run operations.

Lagos would be much stronger with its own currency not being dragged down by excessive consumption and low productivity in the North. The dangote refinery alone would provide enough forex earnings to keep the Lagos currency strong and stable.

The lagos economy is strong enough to wean itself off of Federal Government allocations. The introduction of mobile money along with effective income tax and massive property tax to bring down land values would allow the Lagos government to raise tax collection up to 30% of GDP (the global standard) compared to 5% of GDP in Nigeria. This revenue would allow the Lagos government to invest in infrastructure and 24/7 electricity to allow the city to achieve that 7% annual GDP growth rate that would take it to first world status within our lifetimes.

Etinosa1234:
The truth is ...

Nigeria won't split... Not in a foreseeable time

The World is moving away from oil... For someone who stays in America and still holds oil in high value, I should say ur reasoning is very low...

The easiest thing to achieve now is restructure... And the best way to do this is through the legislature... Its because we have so many educated illiterates that's why we think the executive can restructure.. its not their power...

If the Southern legislators can move a bill for restructuring and lobby the North Central legislators to join them, restructuring is sure...The core North will have no chance...

Finally there is no way the Niger Delta(if they want to.leave) will give the North 50% of some resources... I don't know the circumstances of the South Sudan case but for the Niger Delta to agree to such stupid idea that u are advocating, they must have some undue advantage over us with their own resources

Las Las all this Una talk go end for nairaland as one of the regularly forgotten threads

Finito

Bla bla ba. Oil makes up 90% of Nigeria's export revenue and 50% of its government revenue. It is also the basis for transportation in Africa (it will take decades if not generations for Africa to go electric) so spare me the lofty speeches, and face reality. Oil matters.

The North can't even secure its own territory and these dumb animals think they can win a full fledged war with the south. Some people just like slavery, so they will make any brainless excuse to remain in such a condition.

Goodmarlian:
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The indecisiveness of the south is what is keeping Nigeria together,until our southern elites support the notion nothing will happen you and I are powerless..

BastardWike:
In the event of a full blown war between North and South, the only way the South will win is if they can hold their territory within the first 6 months of fighting. Mind you, South won't just be fighting against North but the entire Sahel region of Africa that includes Niger, Chad and Mali. During the Biafran war, Chadians and Nigerians flooded into Nigeria and fought on their federal government side.

Secondly, the world over, any side that controls the government apparatus already has a huge advantage because the other side will be regarded as rebels fighting a central government. Also, their can only be a guerilla warfare against the North/Federal government since we no longer have regions like in the first republic. Now this even makes it worse for South because the North will use its control of the government to launch direct attacks or airstrikes in the South while South can't do so against the North.

Lastly, the weak point of the South will always be the SW. Their Muslims will easily sabotage their efforts and make it possible for Northerners to penetrate. So, I wouldn't advocate war as a means of breaking Nigeria because it will take up to five years for any side to beat the other into submission and before it gets to that, up to 5 million people would be dead already and the economy would be wiped out.

You people aren't serious about freedom. You would rather just make excuses and delay while the North slowly colonizes you with murderous herdsman, Dangote, and other mechanisms. By the time you wake up and start fighting, it will be too late.

I'm happy I live abroad, sef. I dey tire trying to reason with slaves and monkeys.

Goodmarlian:
The north would never allow that never.

Then what is your alternative -- cry for restructuring that will never happen? monkey.

Goodmarlian:
Bro you don't know me 1 bit ,I don't fear death but i will only fight a war i am advamtaged to win,believe me you and I know that if war breaks out in naija today the north would have more advantage than south,most military bases are In their land,most trained soldiers are northerners,the south are minorities in the army, we would be forced to recruit civilian militia to face the north army,I am not saying the north would surely win the war but south will suffer more casualties..

No, the North would literally starve on a mass scale. Their soldiers are worthless. Many are fighting without bullets or supplys because of the extreme corruption in the army.

ProT:
Presently, how many percent of the oil revenue is accrued to the North?

If u give them 50% oil revenue;
What about the revenue they get from the seaports?
What about the VAT they enjoy from ur consumption of alcoholic drinks?
What about the access the herdsmen have over ur lush vegetation?

It would take more than 50% of oil resources to convince the North to leave her bride (the South).

50% may be more than their current allocation considering the fact that oil rich states in the south get larger allocations. Also, splitting the country would dramatically simplify the North's administration systems, leading to cost savings and massive benefits for them. They could also export their agricultural goods to the south for foreign exchange.

Trust me, they will love the new arrangement. Free oil money on one side and agro exports on the other.

ProT:
Presently, how many percent of the oil revenue is accrued to the North?

If u give them 50% oil revenue;
What about the revenue they get from the seaports?
What about the VAT they enjoy from ur consumption of alcoholic drinks?
What about the access the herdsmen have over ur lush vegetation?

It would take more than 50% of oil resources to convince the North to leave her bride (the South).

So what is your solution then?

Goodmarlian:
What if northern soldiers blockade the borders between Nigeria and Benin,just a cept the fact forget sentiments.

The border with benin is deep in Yoruba territory. And I previously said, no Hasua army can penetrate that deep. This is the same army that is getting slaughtered by Boko Haram on a daily basis -- what makes you think they can penetrate over 500 miles into the most densely populated land in Africa? You seem to operate out of fear, which is why people like you make such good slaves.

Dumb fearful animal. Men like you run away from Fulani herdsmen instead of fighting back.

If America could defeat Britain and gain its freedom, we can defeat a gang of illiterate herdsmen and Almajiri. But the only way to win is if the Yoruba join the fight.

Goodmarlian:
I laugh in hausa,the north controls the navy ,so even at sea we are doomed,because they will prevent and blockade us from amunition supplies just like biafra, lthey will shoot down supply planes if they sight any,we will have no choice unless southern soldiers are brave enough to sieze some ships and warplanes which I don't think they are brave enough to do..

Controlling the navy vs. controlling the port are two different things. A Hasua army would never be able to penetrate deep enough to take the ports in Lagos, Koko, or Port Harcourt. If they attempt a blockade from the sea, we can get supplies from Cotonou. Stop being a coward. These people will lose the war.

ProT:
What even makes u believe the North would accept that 50% deal to free something they control 100%?

50% would allow them to maintain (or even increase) their total revenue from the oil because they won't have to distribute cash to the southern states. The deal would allow Northern Nigeria to split away without sacrificing its revenue.

I think splitting Nigeria will benefit the North as much as the south. They can focus all their attention on securing and governing their country instead of oppressing and mismanaging ours.

Goodmarlian:
The north has totally dominated Nigeria, I blame the yorubas for that it all started in 1966 when the war broke out ,why did yorubas allow gowon move the capital to the north form Lagos without a fight? so any attempt to split Nigeria by war ,the south will suffer heavy casualties because north dominates the military,so we southerners are doomed war or no war..

The North is landlocked, and the south controls all navigable ports. Right now, the military dynamics tilt heavily in our favor. All we have to do is block food imports to the North, and their population will starve.

We also have access to the oil and gas infrastructure. They can't even refine the fuel for their planes, tanks and armored cars -- their whole army would collapse in less than a year.

TooMuchStuff:
No Parasites wanna negotiate with Rich Host if the power is with the parasites.

The North wants to dominate the South and take all including the land water air ... mark this

Then why aren't the Southerners fighting back? There are millions of Northerners living in the south -- a serious group of people would have started with them.

Homeboiy:
Which south are you talking about?

The one that contains East and west of only South south.


Igbos and yorubas cannot form a country.

Why? You are already in a country, dumb animal. The only thing that will change is that there will no longer be Boko Haram and Fulani bandits. Why are the Yoruba so over-threatened by the Igbo that you ignore your own slavery? Worthless people.

TooMuchStuff:
Hold the fire there....man
Truth is that even if you give them 60% the North won't wanna go their own way. Till it is forced.

Have you consulted them to arrive at this opinion?

XANDERO85:
It's like you're just realising Southerners, for all their literacy, are very daft! Their over-sabi no get part two! They're too smart for their own good!

Clearly. I'm a Nigerian American so I can see it from a birds eye view. These people have very bad instincts. Its no wonder supposedly "educated" people find themselves ruled by herdsman and aboki.

TooMuchStuff:
You have made a powerful statement here.
South Sudan only grants Sudan exclusive right of way to convey their little Crude oil to the global market.
We SS won't give even a glass cup of crude nor are we gonna give them free passage to use our maritime resources. Dem go pay for every every

So you would continue allowing the North to control 100% of the oil via the NNPC which is staffed by northerners and Buhari -- only to have them "dash" you maybe 40% (that drops to maybe 10% - 20% if we are talking just SS) of the revenue in the form of state distributions? You would rather continue allowing your "maritime resources" (ports, etc.) to be grossly mismanaged by the Federal government, which is staffed with northerners?

If the wisdom of my 50/50 compromise is not clear to you guys, then my people are infinitely stupider than I thought, and you deserve to be ruled by these animals.

When South Sudan split from North Sudan, the two nations agreed to divide the oil revenue between them, although most of the resource is located in the South. Nigeria needs to adopt a similar strategy to break free from Northern Nigeria. Oil is the only thing that holds our people together, and as a Southerner, I am willing to give the North 50% of the oil in return for self governance and a dissolution of this mockery called Nigeria.

Southern Nigeria is the most wealthy and prosperous region on the African continent. Southern Nigerian test scores in the U.K rival (and perhaps surpass) the Chinese, while Hausa/Fulani test scores are lower than pakistan and Somalia. We are wasting our potential by being chained together with these corpse-like people. Please, Igbo, Edo and Yoruba. Put aside your differences, and read the writing on the wall:

Northern Nigeria is rapidly descending into failed state status. Men roam the streets with 4k-47s and massacre is so common it rarely makes the news. We must free ourselves from this drowning man or we will drown with him.

helinues:
Who do you guys want to blame for the insecurities in your region? The president who is a Northerner? Majority of the service chiefs who are northerners? Majority of those who are sponsoring the killings are Northerners, even majority of their machineries are northerners.

Me I thought when Southerners took to the street to protest the ENDSARS, even though you guys are not much affected, why didn't you guys seize the opportunity to protest about Bokoharam, Bandits and Kidnappers unnecessary killings?

We are tired of typing RIP on something we could have avoided... The Boko Haram members are not ghost, they are within your community, most of your politicians can not feign ignorance of not knowing those who are sponsoring them even though some of them are among.

And if it's a game plan to retain power, we can only wish you guys all the best cos as for Southern region, most especially SW, we are not ready to play such game.

Act now before your region turn to ghost town

Do you think the north is listening to you, monkey? It's time to split the country. Stop trying to reason with these people. Why are Yoruba so scared to go there own way?

degamonn:
I don't hesitate to add my voice any time politicians salary in Nigeria is mentioned.
First, I don't believe that any public servant in Nigeria go home with as much as 20 million naira monthly not to talk of 29 million.
Pls somebody should verify and tell us if this is their monthly take home pay or just one-off payment or quarterly constituency allowance.

What is so tasking in legislation that the reward is higher than any form of work in the country? If that amount is true, is the any occupation that pay higher than that any where in the world?

Something must be done to address this issue!

According to the BBC the sum in 13.5 million naira. Along with a $2 million constituency project every year and a hardship allowance.

Ebenezer202I:
a senator doesn't earn 29 million per month please stop the propaganda and behave like one who is educated please

Nigeria has the highest paid senators on earth.

This is why the Nigerian government is enriching Dangote

humilitypays:
I pity the next President of Nigeria, especially if he happens to come from the South. You see all these docile Northern almajiris acting like they are not feeling the sufferings just because their Sai Barbar is the President, watch when a southern person becomes the President, even that foolish Kaduna Midget, the looting machine and number one sponsor of Islamic terorists in Nigeria called El Rufai, will crawl out of his loot to start spewing nonsense as usual.


The North is the bane of Nigeria's development.



The amount Nigeria have spent fighting imaginary Boko Haram war Northern Nigeria created can turn Nigeria to Monaco

Split the country. I am ready to fight. Southern Nigeria needs a second independence from the sokoto caliphate.

surgical:
I give up on you,dont know you are this dumb,so it is spirit that will make refineries work
Transferring government monopoly to private monopoly is the solution you think will solve the problem
If you are not dumb then you are part of the problem

No you are the problem. The Nigerian government cannot manage any successful company -- get that through your mushy black brain. At least a private monopoly will make the refineries work and save the country FOREX which is better than nothing.

ibinaboonline:
Abeg make una advice me. The oyibo people I dey work for dem dey pay me via TransferWise. This platform dey give person exactly the CBN exchange rate which is still 380.50 naira. Imagine my loss for money wey go fit fetch me 500 naira for black market. My employers no GI gree send me physical cash abi na me go pay for the courier? Wetin person go do? Any advice?

That is terrible. Take payment in dollars and then find a way to convert those dollars to naira yourself.

Who cares what those monkeys do? Just split Nigeria.