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Ereadua:
I just don’t know how to put it to him. This man really likes me

Do u see a future in the company??

is he trying to nurture you for a better role after graduation or what.,...??

I dont know how much ur tution is but there is no cheap school these days.... Paying ur tuition and school expenses is something more than tangible .....

60k is small...but.....Be patient ..If u have not started ur own thing at all....i suggest u start your business on the side first while you still work for him...
Stand on your feet first..... Graduate oooo.....

Then if there is nothing there for you ...take a hike...

U go dey alright.....tell am with mouth...don't right letter

KobolanderSegun:
Me I am Laughing..... In 2026 men are still prioritizing Female Virginity as a yardstick for marriage ? In 2026 !!!

What about Female Intelligence, Female Wisdom, Female Comportment, Female Financial Literacy ? They are not even looking to see whether she can cook. But No she must be a Virgin.

I cannot speak for everyone but no wonder Africa is so backward when you place so much energy on a state God created but you will not look for attributes that come with self development.

.....u're looking for intelligence wisdom, comportment.? Lol..so na from all this bannies wey nor respect their bodies, with body count the length of the equator you dey expect all these good characters..??

Baba....discipline is not an isolated attribute in a human being, it comes with other good characters as well...

but y'all are too morally bankrupt yourselves so u will rather see a retired olosho as better than a sexually disciplined woman

Ojuntana:
Yeah
Like a certain prophet who even took his son's wife

Sir...which school of vawulence u graduate from....??

The offence nor too shock me because a person lack sexual discipline, there's no limit to what he or she can do...na just a matter of time

But u see the man followed ....Na the their response to justify the act the always shock and cringe me.... If these pple justify marrying a 6 year old to you,....u go nearly vommit

Helpout12345:
1. Make sure your wife is informed before you do such thing so that you don't end up scattering your home.

2. Don't start what you cannot finish. If care is not taken, you are gradually going to adopt a new family financial burden

He should tell the wife?? U like vawulence oooo

kaybeejnr:
I’m going to respond one last time Pastor, because at this point your issue is no longer Islam, it is how you think.

pastor?? U are just deflecting and looking for what's not related

kaybeejnr:
This is one of the weakest arguments anyone can make.

this not an argument...it is pointing out what yall do.....i mean u pple are so desperate to cancel another person's core beliefs u have failed to see they are two different faith systems

I don't see u rejecting other religions core beliefs ....which is why it is clear ur target is the two faith u copied....

kaybeejnr:
Christianity invalidates Judaism by rejecting the Law as salvific.

this is another desperate lie....and I have responded to this before....but becos u are using AI...it's clear u are not reading some of my text

kaybeejnr:
Christianity invalidates Islam by rejecting Muhammad.

.....Christianity see Islam as a different religion....ur prophet is the one trying to create continuity to establish link with God of abraham, yet discrediting what he copied from in order to gain superiority and greater authenticity

kaybeejnr:
When Christians say “Jesus is Lord,” they are invalidating Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, and atheism whether they admit it or not.

u are wrong ... religion is a personal belief and faith issue...it's not a logic of 1+1
....if a person says his God is the moon..how does that affect another who says his God is a cow....they are both faking faith-based or belief-driven claims......everyone can worship whoever he chooses to call God or at best invite another to join him......

kaybeejnr:
You only notice “invalidation” when Islam does it, because Islam refuses to flatter your theology.

this is not true....i pointed it out repeatedly that Islam does it to give itself validation...
...For example your Quran is clearly written with the premise of attacking Christians core message of Jesus being the son of God...by claiming God has no children...

May I ask ..Have u stopped to consider that Allah and God if Abraham are two different entities ?? I mean the pattern of worship and core messages are completely different ...

..u dont do same to other many religions out there...which is why it's clear it's a lame attempt at manipulation after copying...

Ask any Muslim what is corrupted about the Torah ...and he won't be able to say..,.u only cherry pick when it suits u and still come back to use the same text to validate your Quran or prophet.......

kaybeejnr:
Your obsession with banners saying “Jesus is not God” exposes something deeper:
You’re offended that Islam won’t compromise its monotheism to spare Christian feelings. That’s not Islam’s weakness that’s its consistency.

offended?? Monotheism is not exclusive to islam...dont be desperate....

.....Christians don't even claim to have 3 Gods, ...islam's desperation to create invalidation strategy as a means of showing superiority to the christianity drive this narrative of polytheism...
If Christians don't acknowledge having three Gods or polytheism...then where did your prophet get it from??
...this is how u will know the Quran was written with the premise polytheism which was then used as an invalidation strategy to claim superiority of one allah..

kaybeejnr:
If I say “Allah is not God,” I am making a false claim about Islam.

I really don't care what u say about your god...that is ur belief....

.if u chose to call cow your God....that is ur personal truth and beliefs....it is not a general established truth like 1+1=2...it is a faith claim.

But ur beliefs cannot nullify every other person's belief who calls his God something else other than allah......
U want to hide under theology when insulting another person's faith....but will scream blasphemy when same is done to you....yet you are complaining of double standards

kaybeejnr:
If Islam says “Jesus is not God,” it is making a theological claim about Christianity.

That is not true, its invalidating who Christians chose to call their God ....this is the double standard u muslims use to justify ur lack of religious tolerance and claims of superiority

U claim Allah is ur god..so what?? It's just a religious claim...there is no physical evidence ur AIlah exist...all religious people are driven by personal or group beliefs at end of day ..

So how does u claim nullify another person's claim of what his God is ??
....u kiss a black stone for heavens sake....who made u authority over what another person chooses to call his or her own God....?

kaybeejnr:
You accuse Islam of:- copying Judaism and Christianity

this is not an accusation...
It's stating an obvious fact.....

kaybeejnr:
- claiming they’re corrupted

this is also stating the obvious....not a accusation.

How can your Quran say if you are in doubt of your Quran , go to the christians (the people of the book).....?? Yet somehow, you claim the pple of the book are false and corrupted
....it's clear ur claims of corrupted text is an orchestrated attempt at manipulation to discredit the text it copied and gain validation for itself...
...which funnily now states that God is never sending any prophet or message after ur prophet .....it's so funny the manipulation is from multiple angles...

kaybeejnr:
- claiming superiority

this is obvious, cos if u see the Quran u will notice this are obvious lies targetes at what was already know about the bible..
1) multiple authors
2) Jesus the son of God
3) The doctrine of Father sin and holy Spirit which u pple translated as 3 different God...

kaybeejnr:
You think this is clever. It isn’t.

it's not about being clever...it's obvious, a lame attempt at creating convenient excuse....

How can u come and copy someone's text and claim yours is original and also add that there is no other message or text that can every come after...it's a lame/poor attempt at claiming authenticity and superiority.....

kaybeejnr:
Christianity does exactly the same thing to Judaism.

lol... Christianity did no such thing.... the Torah and prophet points to Jesus..... Christians read both the Torah prophets and injeel for prayer and guidance.. u are just desperate to claim a point

kaybeejnr:
- borrows Jewish scripture

Christianity acknowledges Jewish text as the word of God, and references it because all of it points to Jesus.....the revelations of prophet Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and many other prophet all correlates with revelations of John and the unveiling of Jesus..,.....

kaybeejnr:
- reinterprets it

don't be desperate .

kaybeejnr:
- claims Jews misunderstood it

u are just being desperate......Christians never claim Jews misunderstood.....this is what u Muslims claim...... The Torah, prophets and gospels all reference each other ..

kaybeejnr:
- claims fulfillment and finality in Christ

finality of Christ?? There is no such thing as finality of Christ..u are just desperate......

kaybeejnr:
That is textual supersessionism; the same accusation you throw at Islam.

not true.......your Quran claims the Torah prophets and gospels are corrupted with no evidence of such claims.,
...it also claims having multiple authors is a flaw, then conveniently claims...Quran has only one author ... U see my point??

Further make claims of preservation with no evidence .after claiming bible is corrupt.....they are ust mere claims, targeted at manipulating it's Arabian audience that Quran can never be corrupted....but it's just mere claims....nothing more

kaybeejnr:
- One God
- Continuous revelation
- Human alteration over time
- Final correction

all these are manipulation drawn from the premise of what was already known by the bible.....the are all convenient cooked up invalidation strategies.

The last pint makes it even more obvious... After claiming that the two text he copied is flawed, he then further claimed no other text must be entertained after his own.... Lol...

kaybeejnr:
You may reject that claim, but calling it “cheap copying” is not an argument, it’s resentment dressed as analysis.

Sir...i don't resent your religion or quran....I am just starting the obvious.....
what's worse is that it was not a well thought plan to discredit after copying the bible
.......
.for example...claims of one author which was an invalidation strategy was orchestrated to tackle the multiple authorship of the bible...

....but alas!! ......it was not well thought strategy because claiming an angel recited hundred of pages of a book to you with no evidence or witness makes ur claims mere claims .....

kaybeejnr:
3. Your “Father vs Slave” theology is projection, not critique

I am not criticizing you......i am only showing you that both faith are not the same and clearly different Gods... Here is more .....

U kiss black stone....u have to face the east to pray, ur God allows multiple wives and even children marriage
....Jesus clearly said this is not so and he referenced creation stating that one man was created and one women to be his companion and they both become one flesh..

..in Christianity there is a message of reconciliation and atonement of sin by one that is perfect and sinless not born of sperm and egg
......in islam there is no such thing.......so how are these faiths of the same God?? Oh I forget....this is where u claim it's corrupted....

kaybeejnr:
Islam rejects calling God “Father” because fatherhood implies biology, lineage, and dependency. Islam does not degrade humanity by calling them slaves it elevates God beyond human metaphors.

very good...that's your god...and that's fine...

.these are core beliefs to you in islam and God being the father and jesus being the son are core beliefs in Christianity, making it more obvious these two faiths are not the same..

U can call ur god wateva you like and call ur selves a sIave....that's fine.
.but it is not theology to come into another person's faith to invalidate his beliefs and call his texts false..

kaybeejnr:
Christianity calling God “Father” is a theological metaphor. Islam rejecting it is a theological boundary. Difference does not equal deficiency.

lol...Why do u feel you need to reject what another person call his God?? He did not tell you to call your own God father.
U call ur god Allah.... that's fine.... Why do u feel u need to discredit him for calling his God father...??

kaybeejnr:
- Apostasy laws existed in every pre-modern society

this is another lie u Muslims use to justify ur barbaric Arabian laws, targeted at preventing pple from leaving
..Christians are charged to preach the gospel by Jesus .. not to kill anyone for leaving....

kaybeejnr:
- Leaving the religion equals leaving the political community- Treason was punished everywhere —

u lie sir....only Islam has this killing pple for apostasy ..because ur prophet Stole mecca and made Islam the constitution that's why he needed a follow up law to prevent pple from leaving because he knew he forced himself on them and there was bound to be revolters ...

kaybeejnr:
Christian Europe included

u dont have to lie.....religion and state is not mixed in europe or any democratic state....leaving any religion is not an offence and never seen as treason...u dont have to lie sir..

Merging religion and state is something u Muslim desperately want because it's what your prophet did to gain easy control through shariah....

kaybeejnr:
Christian states: burned heretics, drowned dissenters, executed apostates, criminalized disbelief. Do your research to fact-check this!

u are getting desperate....there is no Christian states anywhere......only Muslims have counties where other religions are not allowed and shariah is constitution

....but yes.....unlike u i will not pretend the atrocities of the Roman catholic did not exist....but this is clearly not the teaching of Jesus which u know......
..the Roman catholic attempted to gain control over the bible as sole custodian....this was the reason for killing fellow Christians called protestant who challenged them with the doctrine and won..
Where are u Muslims today ...u dont challenge bokoharam, Isis, Iswap.....On the contrary..ur Muslims leaders in govt, religious and traditional rulers praise them and call them religious jihadfreedom fighters

kaybeejnr:
Islam is not unique here, it is honest about its legal history, while Christianity hides behind modern secularism and pretends Jesus personally authored liberal democracy.

u lie sir....u are the one trying to sweep the atrocities done in the name of your god and prophet under claims that these violent acts are normal and done everywhere

.the fact is ..these violence and hostile take over strategy through lesser jihad and shariah is core to your beliefs and that's why it continues till this very moment...

kaybeejnr:
And here’s what you keep dodging:
If Islam automatically killed doubters, Islam would not have survived mass apostasy in modern times. Millions leave quietly. No one hunts them.

it's democratic laws that caged you .....u kill doubters in Islamic state .....
go and read about Iran, Iraq, oman .....pple are murdered, jailed, kidnapped, never seen, for converting from islam..
Notable ones who made headlines include Hossein Soodmand was officially executed publicly by hanging for converting..

Mehdi Dibaj was also sentence to death for apostasy, after much protest from counties he was released but murdered while trying to escape to turkey...

kaybeejnr:
Your argument relies on pretending medieval law equals modern reality. That’s intellectually dishonest pastor./quote] u are dishonest sir .. I have repeated said that ..ur religious driven violence continues till today and this is the reason for all this dialogue....
if these killings ended with ur prophet thousands of years back...we would have all agreed its a practice of ancient times .

But nooo..pple are paying jizyah as we speak..
Communities in benue, Kano katsina are being forced to convert to Islam

[quote author=kaybeejnr post=138131917]5. Your “Islam started all violence” history is cartoonish

I never said u started violence ..i said u prophet started this Quran driven violence......this is not a lie....he brought the Quran and he killed to install it in mecca....which is the same blue print all over today

kaybeejnr:
- Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
- to Caliphates
- to Vienna
- to Usman Dan Fodio
- to Iran
- to Boko Haram
That’s not history. That’s a collage of anger.

so all these did not happen?? U lie sir

kaybeejnr:
By that logic:

Christianity = Crusades + Colonialism + Slave trade + Genocide

lol...u are just desperate looking for a common ground

kaybeejnr:
Judaism = ethnic cleansing

gain..this is just lame desperation from you.....

kaybeejnr:
Serious people separate doctrine, history, abuse, and context. You refuse to. Why? because you need Islam to be uniquely evil to sustain your identity.

we all need Islam followers to stop burning pple, beheading their neighbors and forcing pple to become Muslims, demanding for jizyah while u remaining muslims pretend it's just normal violence done everywhere....

kaybeejnr:
- Rape & witnesses: This is a lie. Rape is not zina. Classical law distinguishes them. Though you claim to know some hadiths

I never called zina rape directly.....zina is sexual immorality ...please try and read ....u don't read...u mostly copy my text text to chat gpt to respond for you...
Women that complain of rape..with no evidence or witness to help them are accused of Zina and hence punished, especially those who get pregnant
..it happened in Pakistan, Iran, please use the Internet ...some men who got caught are even left unpunished after agreeing to marry the victim....

kaybeejnr:
- Forced marriage: Invalid in Islamic law. Consent is required.

so how do u explain marrying off under age?? U can keep lying...but u know u can't lie to yourself

kaybeejnr:
- Divorce: Men and women have different exit mechanisms, not unequal dignity.

Men can leave by just sending her out...but women can't...welldone sir...Keep on justifying subjugating women

kaybeejnr:
- You don’t want nuance. You want outrage. Yes that's YOU pastor

it's funny but not funny that u call me a pastor ..it's the same way you naturally call Germany and non-islamic nation Christian states by default .....it's pathetic ..but I get u shaa... Thats the average thinking of a Muslim

kaybeejnr:
And the irony? Most of the Muslim women you claim to defend reject your savior complex outright

defend..?? Don't get me wrong...i care less what you do to your women ...I'm just pointing out your lies

kaybeejnr:
7. Your “Islam breeds extremism” argument eats itself You say: “Only Islam produces extremists.” False.

Christian extremism exists.
Hindu extremism exists.
Buddhist extremism exists.
Atheist extremism exists.

u lie as usual......show me the extreme Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, and atheist group killing and beaheding pple, taking jizyah from pple today ....only u pple Bokoharam, isis, Alqaeda, ISWAp, Islamic brotherhood,....u attach b0mb in your underwear, hijack planes aand drive it into buildings to murder innocent pple

kaybeejnr:
The difference is geopolitics, power vacuums, colonial trauma, and media focus — not scripture alone.

u lie sir ...the difference is urs is religious driven...ur prophet did it ..and your god commands it ..

kaybeejnr:
You don’t blame Jesus for the Crusades. But you blame Muhammad ﷺ for Boko Haram Lol.

read your own Quran sir....if ur prophet ddnt take up sword, murder pple and take their land and imposed jizyah.....to be honest I won't call his name in all of these...if ur Quran doesn't contain text calling you to murder Christians, fight them, until Islam dominates ...... then these muslims killing, beheading pple for blasphemy for shariah etc will just be normal crazy pple.....but alas !! Ur religious text and prophet's actions is clearly a catalyst for breeding extremism and jihadist desperate to turn everywhere to saudi

FreeStuffsNG:
Since you don’t want to take my counsel, metaphorically-speaking, why not go and commit same crime . I want to check something.


Talk is cheap o.

First answer the question .. why nigeria as a nation is not earning revenue from Lithium, Gold and carlifonium in the north??
Ur darling federal govt that does only selective arrest and selective prosecution …. Shior!!

FreeStuffsNG:
You really think so?
May you not land is serious protracted criminal cases with FG before you learn. Smh.

While in jail, you will not even see the light for months before your case receive advice from DPP office and you are taking to court in one far flung place.

Which federal govt? The same govt releasing criminals killing nigerians daily??
… the first thing u should ask yourself is why nigeria as a nation is not earning revenue from Lithium, Gold and carlifonium in the north?? Then you will realise why those plle caught will be set free and the illegal mining will continue

Nwaiyoo:
But if these solid mineral resources are found in Nigeria, why is the government borrowing money.

Baba…if them explain nigeria to you and you understand….. them nor explain anything to you!

kaybeejnr:
First, the claim that “Islam has no self-validated message and must first discredit another faith” is simply false. .

u saying it false doesn't change facts....The evidence is clear as day in your Quran and the teaching of all your scholars and imams..and thats why y'all had to place a large banner in front of a mosque saying Jesus is not God....thas why I keep asking is invalidating the bible your core message? Why don't u accept they are two different faith system.....imagine me saying Allah is not God....that's not criticism, that's invalidating your faith...

kaybeejnr:
The fact that Islam rejects certain theological claims of Christianity does not mean Islam depends on Christianity for meaning. .

Lol ....and what do u reject in all the other many religions/faith out there ?? Baba, it's never been about any other faith but the two your prophet copied from....
And like I said...when u copy, u will be labelled a copycat, unless you claim the text u copied from are corrupted and urs is the authentic and no other must come after it.....

kaybeejnr:
Every belief system defines itself partly by what it rejects. .

u reject the claims core message of another person's faith and turn around to use it as claims of superiority.

That's no longer religion thas clearly a political party targeting dominance.. and that's why it doesnt surprise me y'all get to a place and want to eliminate other religions like your prophet did...

kaybeejnr:
Christianity rejects Judaism’s law.

u don't have to lie...Christianity doesn't reject Judaism.....and doesn't claim it's corrupted... It's literally full of prophecy pointing to Jesus

kaybeejnr:
. Judaism rejects Christian divinity claims. .

so if Judaism rejects what u Muslims rejects... Please tell us what is corrupt about the Torah??

kaybeejnr:
Its “core message” is submission to one God and ethical responsibility. ..

if ur core message is submission to God, why do u further need the Torah or injeel to be false ??
Why the claims of one author comparing it to the bible to claim superiority? which is even shooting your Quran in the leg..

kaybeejnr:
Now the “Islam copied the Bible” argument.
This is old, tired, and internally contradictory.
You accuse Islam of copying the Bible and of corrupting it, and of not understanding it. Pick one.

firstly, it's not old and tired because the text is still there till today....
Secondly...u are not following....Islam copied, then further added claims of curroption of the two text...otherwise his copy will just be rejected as a cheap copy....I'm not picking..I'm saying he did both copying and manipulation..

kaybeejnr:
. Islam explicitly says revelation is continuous, not plagiarized — the same God, same moral
.

it couldn't have been the same God..
Your god is a slave master because you acknowledge yourselves as slaves... In the biblical text God is a father...

kaybeejnr:
Christianity itself claims continuity with the Torah. By your logic, Christianity copied Judaism and then called Jews wrong. See how shallow this argument is?.

u are getting desperate.....Christianity references Torah and the prophets pointing to Jesus every step of the way.....the bible doesnt claim torah is corrupted as a way of making itself better, the bible doesnt fault the authorship of torah in order to discredit it.........

Your Quran is like a new research journal on physics but same old topics already written, then claims all other connected journals that have referenced each other before his new one are all corrupted and his new standing alone journal is the authentic and no one must come after it ....lol ... And if you ask him how?? And he says because he's the only one who wrote his and he did his experiments in a cave where nobody saw him........lol .....

kaybeejnr:
Next, apostasy; your favorite word.
You keep screaming “Islam kills doubters” while refusing to acknowledge legal categories, historical context, or comparative standards. Classical apostasy law applied only in state contexts tied to rebellion, .

it doesn't matter what it applies to .....u behead pple who leave islam in an Islamic state anyway..??
So please where is the no compulsion in Islam?

kaybeejnr:
Your obsession with conquest is equally selective.
You jump from the Prophet ﷺ to caliphates to Usman Dan Fodio to Iran to Boko Haram as if history is a single WhatsApp message. By that logic,.

the logic his history sir......the killing and forcing of islam on territories started with your prophet and it has not stopped till today......u literally have a doctrine of lesser jihad that exposes you and text in Quran that urges u to kill and fight until Islam dominates

kaybeejnr:
Christianity equals Crusades, Inquisition, colonial slavery, residential schools, and genocides, .

u are getting desperate again....which crusade?? The same crusade that started because u your caliphates forcefully attacked jurusalem?? Google your history sir.

Colonial slavery?? Genocides?? And who are u crediting all these to?? Jesus??, John,?? Paul? Which apostle after Jesus??
Residential school?? Lol.... Try and àgain...cos u point doesn't even hit anything

kaybeejnr:
You want Islam frozen at its worst expressions . That’s not analysis sir, that’s bias..

oh so u agree these are worse expressions of Islam??
But here is the thing...if all these atrocities of your prophet ended with him years back...all would will have been history we just teach in schools by now....
....but no.....we still have his teaching of domination, killing of infidels and making Islam dominate being used to spread IsIam by force and violence.....

kaybeejnr:
Then the women argument.
You assert “subjugation” without defining it. Is modesty oppression? Is differentiated responsibility oppression? Or is it only oppression when Islam does it, but culture, fashion industries, and sexual objectification get a free pass? Calling something “hypocrisy” doesn’t make it so sir, it just signals disagreement dressed as morality..

Continue pretending not to know by introducing a straw man....don't worry I'll give u proper context this time

1) In Sharia, which u want to force on everybody, woman's inheritance share is half that of a man in the same position.

2) In Islamic legal, e.g like transactions, or courts, a woman's legal testimony has historically been considered half the value of a man's..

3) if a woman is raped and perhaps pregnant you require her to produce four witness otherwise zina will apply....as in..you will literally stone a human being to death...?? Yet u say u are fair to women

4) A father or a male figure literally own a female child and can give her away in marriage against her will even at a 9 years old...

5) A man can dissolve a marriage by just saying get the fvck out of my house....but a woman requires her husband's consent or a court order/ khula or faskh), requiring her to return her dowry....but u love women so much and protect them...yet you make laws to keep them in abusive marriages

6) Quran 4:34, ur religion literally makes law that subjugate women, teach them that they are beneath men and men can beaten....
I have Muslims friends, a lady literally told me Islam says it's blessing for her for her husband to marry more wives.,.....imagine this level of manipulation sir...

7) I have no problem with modest dressing ..i am a fan of decent dressing....so stop sounding like Islam is custodian to decent dressing
....but modesty isn't covering a human being up like an assassin or thief going to rob....

If it's for modesty....why don't y'all men cover yourself up from head to toe.....
but nooo....it's the women's bodies that's enticing you....you don't entice the women...i guess when u were writing these laws u ddnt understand sexual attraction is a two way street.......with all the covering....y'all still rpe them anyways.....


u literally limit women's role in society, some of your laws restrict women's access to some public life, some level of education, and many employment, making them financially dependent on you.....

Do you want me to go on??.

kaybeejnr:
Your “Muslims can’t read Qur’an” insult is not even clever.
Millions of Muslims read, memorize, study, debate, and critique their scripture in multiple languages.

lol..keep paying with context.....
I stand by my point...many if you can't read the Quran nor understand it....some can because they memorized after learning Arabic but don't know it's meaning .....it's like reciting a poem. They still have to go learn interpretations...

Even after reading and knowing you are still stranded without the Hadith, which you classify as strong and weak Hadith ....sigh!!

kaybeejnr:
Your fixation on body counts is telling.
You keep comparing prophets, wars, and states without acknowledging scale, era, or norms.

fact is fact...he was a man who claim to be perfect, brought religion of peace from your god but murdered the same pple he claimed he brought message to.......and then forced his religion on them and started collecting money called jizyah....u can't change facts

kaybeejnr:
David and Moses fought wars. Joshua wiped out cities. Constantine ruled by the sword. If violence disqualifies truth, no Abrahamic faith survives. Yet you excuse one and demonize another.

I never excused anyone...David and co are men or kings who wanted land .
....the central figure of Christianity is Jesus .....so look for another justification for the body count because comparing ur prophet to David is lame.....David is even far better....

kaybeejnr:
The Nigeria argument is the weakest of all.
Blaming Islam for Boko Haram is like blaming Christianity for the Lord’s Resistance Army.

u compare so if you like ....but u know it's just false comparison.,because Jesus ddnt tell anyone to kill..he was attacked but never retaliated..unlike your prophet....

But Bokoharam, lSlS, AIqaeda, etc operates your prophet blue print....as I speak pple are paying jizyah in many part of Nigeria, forcefully converted to Islam in their communities because they want to live....
Years later u will claim they chose lslam.....

kaybeejnr:
Extremists don’t represent doctrine, they exploit it. You know this sir, but admitting it would collapse your entire narrative.

I know extremism doesn't represent doctrine but the problem is you have a doctrine that fuels these extremism....and you never teach your pple against them......
Are u the only religion in the world?? ...look around you....only u ....Bokoharam, Isls, lswap, Alqaeda, lsIamic brotherhood, and so on.....
You religion literally has text that promotes you to dominate others, fight and kill...

I mean ..,....u literally have a lesser jihad doctrine...but when these violence start you start to pretend its not link to Islam in anyway...

kaybeejnr:
Here’s the reality you’re struggling with:
Islam doesn’t need your approval, your categories, or your permission to exist

Lol..there is freedom of religion, every one respects that...Christian nation allows u plant your mosque and worship your God........but u are the one that wants to eliminate others and make everywhere kike Saudi and iran because that's what's in your Quran....until u have Islamic state with shariah, the struggle (jihad) continues

kaybeejnr:
. It has survived empires, critics, colonization, and the most heinous propaganda — and it will outlive this thread too.

it's fvnny u are trying to paint victim.....look around you ...you guys are the extremist-producers, killing others ......but you want to form victim?? Welldone sir

It depends on the school… if they allow that kinda switch. Many schools do anyway but with a great price of good grades and some pay their way through…

I will not tell u to totally abandon your admission…but weda you do or not…just take another jamb ….or you try school of nursing that use their own entry exam for admission instead of B.Sc Nursing

kaybeejnr:
First, you keep screaming “You haven’t preached your gospel!”

Islam does not have a “gospel” in the Christian sense. That alone tells everyone reading that you’re critiquing a religion you haven’t even conceptually understood.

Lol….. look at all u wrote….. islam has no self validated message from God, but needs to discredit another faith first…. How u dont see this flaw is weird

kaybeejnr:
Criticizing Islam using Christian categories is like reviewing a phone using bicycle rules. It’s confusion, not insight.

I ddnt use Christian categories… i asked you whats your gospel…?, what i mean is whats the core message of your faith?… its clear u have none….
Ur message is that God has no son.. to tackle Christians …. Lol.. its funny

kaybeejnr:
Second, saying “You’re invalidating another faith to validate yours” is ironic coming from someone whose entire reply is… invalidating Islam. Every worldview claims truth and rejects opposing claims. Christianity does it. Atheism does it. Science does it.

Invalidate islam…. I never did that… islam invalidated itself by copying half of the bible and torah ….but didn't understand the power of past text reference so he claimed the two books that could give it reference are corrupted …Then tried to claim greater authenticity from one authorship …. I ddnt do that to islam, yall did that on your own

kaybeejnr:
Truth, by definition, excludes contradictions. Wanting a religion that never disagrees with anyone is not spirituality, it’s insecurity.

its funny the same religion that says there is no compulsion in islam is the same that will kill your for leaving…but hey!! there is no contradiction in your religion

kaybeejnr:
Now to your emotional outburst about apostasy and violence.
You keep throwing slogans like “Islam unalives people” without context, law, history, or scholarship. That’s not argument, that’s TikTok theology.

U want context.. ??start from the history of ur prophet to the caliphates after him, who forceful used violence to take jerusalem all the way to europe until they were stopped at the gates of vienna in 1683…

Check usman danfodio, the same blue print of violence, check Iran, etc… but hey! u will hide under media and justify your prophet’s atrocities with blind support …

kaybeejnr:
Classical Islamic law treats apostasy as political treason in a theocratic state, not “someone doubted and got killed.”

Is this an explanation or justification?? Cos all i see here is admitting you actually kill pple for leaving….. How does treating an apostate as political treason make it okay…
: if u recognise and qcknowledge doubt, u should know apostatsy start with doubt and pple leave because they are in doubt…
Why kill the doubter…. He doesnt want your religion anymore…ddnt u say there is no compulsion in??

kaybeejnr:
If we judged Christianity by medieval Europe or colonial missions, you wouldn’t survive your own standards. But you conveniently want historical amnesia when it benefits you.

u have no history to pull but desperation to justify the kiling done in the name of your god which by the way is still going on in 2026…..:

kaybeejnr:
Next, the “women covering” argument.
You’re outraged that Islam has gender-differentiated obligations while living in societies where men and women already have different dress codes, bathrooms, sports leagues, and laws.

Outraged?? U must be mistaken sir…. I only showed you how you claims of balance is defeated by your hypocrisy and clear evidence of women subjugation…..

kaybeejnr:
Equality does not mean sameness. Islam prioritizes modesty for both genders, but expresses it differently. You don’t have to like it but calling it “unbalanced” just because it offends modern liberal taste is not logic, it’s preference.

Again..: i really dont care ..im only point out your lies..

kaybeejnr:
Then comes the classic line: “You people don’t speak from the heart, you copy and paste.”
Translation: “I don’t like that Muslims are consistent and grounded in texts.”
Islam is a text-based religion. Quoting sources is a strength, not a weakness.

Lol…. U forget to mention that most of u cant read the quran and are only told what u know……baba…. You all say the same not because u think and reach a conclusion…..

kaybeejnr:
Christianity itself is built on quoting scripture. Mocking people for being literate in their own religion is not the flex you think it is.

U are not quoting your scripture, you are quoting fabricated propaganda designed to discredit another person’s faith to validate yours

kaybeejnr:
Now the cave-to-conquest argument.
This one has been recycled for centuries and debunked for centuries. The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ spent 13 years preaching nonviolence, enduring persecution, torture, and exile. Only when a state existed, treaties were broken, and annihilation was threatened did armed conflict occur, just like Moses, Joshua, David, and others in the Bible. Selective outrage is not moral clarity.

U have no point… u are just justifying violence…..moses isnt God, David is not….they are imperfect humans….. u are the ones claiming your prophet is perfect and merciful, yet his body counts was high to heavens

kaybeejnr:
Jizyah?
A tax in exchange for military exemption and state protection; lower than zakat Muslims paid. Non-Muslims kept their faith, property, courts, and worship. Compare that to forced baptisms and church-backed empires. Again: selective memory.

Lol …. Forced baptism?? I wont even ask u if u know what baptism means because it obvious u dont since you are comparing it jizyah by your prophet…

Please sir.. how do u invade, kill, force yourself on someone , make islam their constitution by force then come and say they should py you for protection?? U know whats funny..how you all justify the actuons of this man….

kaybeejnr:
Islam exists in Indonesia, Senegal, Bosnia, China, Nigeria, all with different cultures. Shariah is not “Arab law”; it’s a legal-moral framework applied differently across societies.

U can call it wateva u like.. we see how u use to burn and behead non Muslims u tag as infidels and blasphemous in nigeria

kaybeejnr:
Cutting hands is not daily practice; it has extremely high evidentiary bars and was historically rare. But nuance doesn’t trend, so slogans it is.

Its funny how you dont see how terrible your justification explanations are… i dont know if its desperation or u are just genuinely see nothing wrong in supporting barbaric acts.

kaybeejnr:
Finally, the street-preaching nonsense.
Islam spreads through family, trade, scholarship, ethics, and migration; the same way Christianity spread.

Christianity spread through evangelism even now someone is preaching…. Something you never do and thats why u need apostate laws to kill those who want to leave

kaybeejnr:
The reason Islam survives without centralized clergy or state enforcement is precisely because people choose it.

Nobody chose islam…. Its the same blueprint since ur prophet… pple are forced becos they dint want to die and generations after continue…
Be truthful to yourself… how can u say the pple of mecca chose islam…after killing them??…

Go and read history please… ur caliphates forced islam on pple all the way to wurope and jeruslam.. the king of Jerusalem at the time had to surrender because of of fear of being killed..

Same is happening in benue and many locations today…. 20 -50 years from now u will claim ppe chose islam in benue but u all kept quiet when ur foot soldiers bokoharam was carrying out lesser jihad…. Pple are paying jizyah as we speak in many places in Nigeria

kaybeejnr:
Birth doesn’t keep people Muslim; belief does. Otherwise Islam would collapse the moment people grow up.

lol…U forgot that they cant leave because of apostate laws….

kaybeejnr:
What’s really happening here is simple:
You’re angry that Islam refuses to ask for permission to exist.

angry….?? As usual …
lol..::there are many religions in the world..nobody cares what u worship…. Do it peacefully without forcing your shariah and killings on pple

kaybeejnr:
You want a religion that agrees with you, adapts to you, apologizes to you and Islam doesn’t do that.

Baba …. U re delusional … worship wateva u want without your barbaric byproducts of violence

kaybeejnr:
When you’re ready to debate ideas instead of stereotypes, theology instead of trauma, and history instead of headlines, then we can talk..

debate? With who?? There is nothing to debate with you… you dont even know whats in your quran and cannot even fully interprete the hadith …... baba, you dont have enough credibility to debate sir…..

kaybeejnr:
Please

Accepting Islam is not about abandoning reason, culture, or dignity. It is about aligning yourself with clarity, purpose, and truth.

So what is islam?? Is this the message of islam? I mean is this your gospel? Or this is just a slogan??

kaybeejnr:
First, Islam offers the clearest concept of God; One God. Absolute, eternal, unique, and independent. Not part human, not born, not dying, not divided. This simplicity is not a weakness; it is a strength. It resolves centuries of theological confusion by affirming that the Creator is distinct from creation, beyond human limitations, yet close enough to hear every sincere prayer. This idea resonates naturally with the human mind and conscience.

U Sound like you are just trying to invalidate another person’s faith to give validation to yours….
U came to talk about your religion..yet. u havent preached your gospel… you are not a political party, how can u start talking about you religion by talking about another persons faith painting it as a negative?? Is Your gospel to to discredit another faith ?? because thats all you are doing in this paragraph…

kaybeejnr:
Second, Islam respects human intelligence. It does not ask you to suspend reason to believe. The Qur’an repeatedly challenges people to think, reflect, question, and observe the world. It appeals to logic, history, and morality. Blind faith is never praised; thoughtful conviction is. Islam acknowledges doubt as a stage, not a sin, and invites inquiry rather than fear of questions.

Sir, When you were typing this u did not feel somehow in your stomach…..
your religion literally unalive people for leaving Islam yet you are here saying it appeals to logic and acknowledges doubt….. u dont have to be dishonest to prove a point u are struggling to prove

kaybeejnr:
Third, Islam provides a complete moral framework that is practical, balanced, and realistic.

Balanced?? U tell your women to cover their head and even entire body but men dont do same….
U are always antagonistic of other faith, looking for means to eliminate them and make your religion the constitution of the land… please how is that balanced?

kaybeejnr:
It recognizes human weakness without glorifying it, and human discipline without crushing the soul. Justice, mercy, accountability, compassion, self-control, charity, and humility are not abstract ideals, they are daily practices. Islam does not reduce morality to personal opinion or social trends; it grounds ethics in divine wisdom, stable across time and cultures.

U know what ive noticed about you guys.. u dont use ur own words …. U go and copy and paste things and thats why yall sound the same without really speaking from the heart about your convictions, your relationship with your god and personal encounter in islam….

kaybeejnr:
Fourth, Islam gives life meaning beyond material success. Wealth, status, race, nationality, and gender do not define your worth. Your value lies in your character and consciousness of God. Islam answers the deepest questions:
Why am I here? Why does suffering exist? What happens after death? It teaches that life is a test, pain is not pointless, and justice is not limited to this world.

lol. …u still haven't arrived at the core message of islam to make us believe…this paragraph is what all religions have…religions explain their god, why their on earth, what they should do ..but hey according to you muslims,, others are curropted

try answer this question…how did your prophet go from coming out if the cave with religion from his god preach , but started killing for several years, then taking over mecca impossing jizyya in non-muslim??

kaybeejnr:
Fifth, Islam restores personal responsibility. No inherited sin. No one carries the burden of another. You are accountable for your choices, but you are also never locked out of forgiveness. Repentance is direct, no intermediaries, no rituals of humiliation. Turn back sincerely, and God forgives. This balance between accountability and mercy is rare and powerful.

U still havent preached your gospel…. U are still invalidating another persons faith to give relevance to urs… yet u ask why pple cant join you?

How does this make sense to you, …::painting another person’s faith core beliefs as negative to describe your own as positive? The truth is u pple are intolerant.. and it starts from this narrative of invalidating another persons faith

kaybeejnr:
Finally, Islam is not about becoming Arab, rejecting your culture, or losing your individuality. It is about submitting to truth while remaining human. Across history, Islam has united diverse civilizations under shared principles without erasing their identities.

Lol…yall brought arabian law and culture and litrally want pple to do like they do in olden days arabia, cutting ppls hand, feet, etc clamouring for shariah and hadith practices ..yet you are claiming its not about becoming Arab…. Wait why do yall lie with your full chest know full well you are doing opposite?

U pple literally go to pple’s country demanding shariah without respecting their laws and culture…. Its fvnny how yall make claims like “religion of peace” ..but you do the opposite

kaybeejnr:
If your hesitation is based on politics, media stereotypes, or the behavior of some Muslims, then be fair: judge Islam by its[b] sources[/b], not its misuse. Every ideology has followers who betray its ideals.

Your source is your prophet…. and history told ushe unalive pple, took over their land under the guise iod religion…..The man literally copied the previous text before and added Arabian pagan practice then claimed the the two text he copied are corrupted in order to make his own more valid??

Lol.... Try and get this analogy.....how does it sound to you that a person wrote a physics journal but claim the previous exiating combined journal on the same topic before his own are corrupted that his own is the authentic and the only one to be used??...

And when u ask him how.....then he says it's because he did the experiment in lab where nobody saw him, and because he is the only one who wrote it , therefore he's more valid than all others...

Lol...my brother. Being a sole author to a book will make sense if it's just mere fiction like Harry Potter or Lord of the rings, or game of thrones...u will be praised for your wild imagination in writing such alone

.,.......but claiming sole author as a proof of authenticity on a faith based text, and events that already existed and have been documented before you....sir, that's not authenticity proof…thats fraud….its funny how yall claim another person faith is corrupted but still enter the same text to support your quran when its convenient… lol… u pple leave ur quran and enter the bible to call ur prophet the holyspirit ….

[quote author=kaybeejnr post=138121319]Islam does not force itself on anyone. It simply invites you to consider: If God exists, if truth matters, and if accountability is real. Then does Islam not deserve a sincere, honest look?

Lol…this is the funiest thing i have read today…
Be truthful to yoursef Did ur prophet only invite ?
U pple litrally have the doctrine of lesser jihad …

Invite??how many muslims have u seen preach on the street, at school, etc……
U spread islam by birth and migration and demanding shariah……thats how u took Saudi, iran, many places in Africa….u can pretend all day…typing theory….. but we know how yall behave in real life.

EmpressTitan:
You, are you a virgin? Which sharp niggar...shioorrr; e

He's likely not....but at least he and his parents are not asking for ridiculous price over p£nis wey don travel 350 local govt

Originalsly:
Why would he be drawing more tattoos if he's now a Christian? ..

because or this kind of person its an identity, the tattoos are a way of life And pple who repent do get tempted on their past life..

Originalsly:
. is this what you understand he should show his faith by action means?

drawing of tattoos is an action....if he doesn't dissociate himself from that life he can still be drawn into them

Originalsly:
If he has become a Christian then he is "born again"....correct? ...old things are passed away
.....he should be moving forward in his new life.

so why don't u see getting rid of them not be part of his moving forward....why do you think his change has to be inward alone..
Will u say the same of a woman who used to dress nvde and later met christ ....will she continue in her old appearance? Will her new change of heat not impact her appearance??

Originalsly:
If the tattoos were symbols of evil ...I can understand his need to remove

so looking at that man, u feel humility, kindness, love, inspired the way he looked before?? I mean seeing someone like that should let you know why he ddnt want those tattoos anymore

Originalsly:
. If not ...it can even be used to bring others to the faith ..

like a woman that used to dress nvde can bring others like her to the faith by continuing bin that old lifestyle??

Originalsly:
.. on the grounds that the outward appearance doesn't matter. It's like some poor people will never enter church ...because of outward appearance ... they can't afford to buy clothes that will make them look like Christians.

What has poor pple got to do with this conversation...
Buy clothes that will make them look like Christians?? Please what are you saying?? I think your understanding of the context of this dialogue is way off

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where i said Paul's approach remains the same?

I been talking appearance since..u should get that was a typo error from auto correct

MaxInDHouse:
Soon (Paul) began to go to the synagogues and tell people about Jesus. He told the people, “Jesus is the Son of God!” All the people who heard Saul were amazed. They said, “This is the same man who was in Jerusalem trying to destroy the people who trust in Jesus! And that’s why he has come here—to arrest the followers of Jesus and take them back to the leading priests.” Act 9:20-21

So they recognized him but Barnabas is the one who introduced Paul to the Apostles telling them that he's now a changed man. That's what i meant saying appearance doesn't really matter but a change of heart! Act 9:27

How is this text prove your earlier point that Paul's approach remained the same way as the pharisees??

MaxInDHouse:
I am not against his decision rather what i'm saying is the real change should be from the inside just as Jesus reaches!
Mark 7:20-23

He's changes should be felt by people who sees his new behavior not appearance!

The thing is you are trying to separate his appearance change from inward change....I'm just saying both can go together ..

his appearance is part of his overall changes and both his new behavior and appearance can actually be felt by people weda they knew him before or not......

MaxInDHouse:
You are misconstruing the whole thing.

Since he has changed do you think he will still continue to draw tattoos on his body again?

Of course he will tell everyone that's his former lifestyle but now he's a changed person!

this is not just one tattoo on the wrist or finger he got when he was high.....this was a way of life inspired by old lifestyle....for pple like that it's an identity.....it's possible for him to feel a strong temptation after repentance for


Lets even leave all of the above...why are u against his need to remove all these things inspired by his old way of life that he no longer finds appealing?? ...

Isn't the inside supposed to influence the outside??

MaxInDHouse:
Paul's appearance didn't change rather it's his attitude that changed.

how did u reach this conclusion?? Did the Bible give account of the appearance of paul after encountering Jesus??
Pharisee are know for their notice-me, proud, public validation seeking appearance....if u think Paul continued like that after encountering Jesus...u are just desperate to prove a point..

MaxInDHouse:
So when Christians saw him they were running away thinking he's still coming to persecute then not until they saw him preaching and teaching zealously about Jesus as the Christ.

Lol......so it's because of dressing they were running?? ....it's not because the recognized him as the man who was zealously persecuting and killed them?? Baba u don't have to be desperate to prove a point...

If u think a woman who dresses nvde should not feel a sober as humble need to change her outward appearance after encountering the son of God then I don't know what repentance means to you JWs.... U that u dress modestly with your tie and bag and your women dress decently is saying appearance will not be impacted after genuine repentance

...welldone sir ....

Originalsly:
If he's really Christian then it should be about faith .... not appearance. He's still into vanity ... how he looks ...his appearance. What's on the inside ...his belief and faith should be reflected in action ..behaviour ... outpouring of love and humility etc .... not on the skin. He just confused ...tattoo ink be messing with his brain.

So he can keep drawing more tattoos?? U mentioned his faith should reflect in his action, behavior??
But drawing tattoo is an action.... and past way of life can be a temptation for a someone who repents........ So why do y'all see something wrong in disconnecting totally from his past ways which may be a temptation to go back??

....me I don't understand how y'all think anyone who encountered Jesus will not feel a strong sense of outward change from old life style and appreciate.....

MaxInDHouse:
What changes do you think Jesus wanted?
Inward or outward? 2Timothy 3:5

Did Paul remain a pharisee after encounter with Jeus?? I asked you but u dodged it....

U cannot encounter God and it will not impact both your inward and outward.....it is the inside that is expressed outward ......

How do u encounter God, truly repent and say it's only inward changes but your outward remains complaint with your old life??

hardon1:
He did not find Jesus, his priorities have changed. It's a normal thing in life

That's why we should be careful when we make indelible decisions

Person say he find Jesus......u say na lie....

Wait fess.....na you be Jesus wey he find abi na you be the guy wey find Jesus?

richiemcgold:
What I'm saying in essence is that he does not necessarily have to remove those tattoos before he can please God.

Repentance in the heart that doesn't impact your appearance .....na so she carry bobbiii full everywhere dey say her Christianity is in the heart.... Una welldone oooooo

VVVOLTS:
Even Jesus Christ (PBUH) is a Muslim!

See this c0median ..

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus specifically chose Paul a violent Pharisee to serve as one of his Apostles and see what Paul did as many churches were built through the active preaching and teaching of a former Pharisee!😟

Ure just contradicting yourself....

U called Paul a former pharisee... Did he remain a pharisee while preaching and teaching?? ..how does one encounter God genuinely yet remain the same outwardly and only change inwardly?? I don't think its possible......tbcos the outward is an expression of what's inward

Hemanwel:
This is most likely the end of the road for the Super Eagles. This is because we will be playing 12 Moroccan players including the fans, the referee, CAF, etc

Nigerians and their strategy of not expecting too much from super eagles.....we understand

It's a coping mechanism of avoiding hypertension and disappointment

Nor worry..u go dey alright