₦airaland Forum

vanbonattel:
Ok, but now she got the receipt and it is well written.

You can't blame here for shouting when she discovered.

Lol,.....no mind her

if say senate gree the tinubu proposed VAT increase to 10%, cost of goods go down high by now...

vanbonattel:
Just listen to yourself!

If she has been paying this high VAT, why is she now crying out loudly?

Some people just support evil because it's done by their people.

Baba...she has been paying, she just doesn't know.....
All of us dey pay VAT normal normal....but we no too dey notice until we collect receipt for restaurant or supermarket

Na still the same 7.5% of last year she paid .... Na because she pay to company wey breakdown the VAT cost.....
Normal normal...the price wey dem charge of for wetin she pay for na that that N 6,987,500.

Na when she see e-receipt make am shock.. lol.. if na biro written receipt them give am..she won't see that break down and she won't even know the VAT she paid

Dogalmighty17:
I don't understand what people mean by influencer. What is an influencer really? Na work?

Influencer dey influence the public naaa and also pple wey nor too get mind of their own.....to buy product or service, to check out another person's page, to follow who the want and to also cancel who they have beef with....... Cool money man..

Gotocourt:
You dey underrate speed

U dey overestimate that car

Kobojunkie:
This new year, endeavour to learn the corrrect meaning and use of words. 🥱🥱🥱
🥱🥱🥱

Sigh!! .....I've known for awhile you are not π0rmaI sir.....but I ddnt know it's now worse than before

Nchoje34:
An average lady in the Europe does not have such a condemned mindset

There are entitled gold diggers everywhere ....it's not a Nigerian only thing.....

ahmedio2017:
Pls don't get it wrong, prophet was a native of Mecca he was the one that attacked them they were the one that attacked the prophet and his followers back then.....

How are u pple justifying his actions?? .did they just attacked him for doing nothing??
Is he not the one that went to disturb them with his message he got in the cave??

Did the same not happen to Jesus...did Jesus attack anyone....?? A true prophet who received message of peace will never pick up arms to attack those he is supposed to convert to God......those converted after the numerous battles are those who have no choice but to do his religion out of fear.....same..thing is happening in the north..

How can u claim to bring peace and message from God and for years all you are doing is fighting the people till you took their land and imposed tax on them.....does this make any sense to you sir??

ahmedio2017:
You have a lot to unlearn sir

Lol......Learn About what?? Sir...you religion that copied the previous text before it and claimed they the two are corrupted in order to make his own more valid??

Lol.... Try and get this analogy.....how does it sound to you that a person wrote a physics journal but claim the previous combined journal on the same topic before his own are corrupted that his own is the authentic and the only one to be used??...

And when u ask him how.....he says it's because he did the experiment in lab where nobody saw him, and because he is the only one who wrote it , therefore he's more valid than all others...

Lol...my brother. Being a sole author to a book will make sense if it's just mere fiction like Harry Potter or Lord of the rings, or game of thrones...u will be praised for your great imagination in writing such alone

.,.......but claiming sole author as a proof of authenticity about a faith based text, and events that already existed and have been documented before you....sir, that's the claims of a fraud not authenticity but it's funny millions of y'all all over the world don't can't decide.

ahmedio2017:
What the Prophet did:
Forbade killing non-combatants
Protected women, children, monks, and churches.

Lol......sir u are just hiding fact and repainting history to make your prophet look good...
This man took women, children, non-combatants prisoners in exchange for ransom payments ...example after the Battle of Badr... But u are here training to paint him as a saint for doing these things........i dont get you pple at all....
Is this not the same happening with ISIS, Boko haram, ISWAP

ahmedio2017:
Honored treaties

lol...
This is another twisted history....he actually broke the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah claiming it's his followers who did it.....but weda he did it or not, he still went ahead to use the opportunity to attack and take the land..
I ask again...how did Messenger of God who came to preach faith turn to fighter and taking over land and imposing jizyah?

ahmedio2017:
Allowed religious pluralism

u seff be truthful to yourself.....u can try to deceive me but u can't deceive yourself......

ahmedio2017:
Equating the Prophet’s actions with modern terrorist groups ignores Islamic law, ethics, and historical reality......

He killed, used pple to collect ransom, took over m£cca and imposed jizyah......please sir how is that different from what is happening now??

That's a medium duty bullion van weighing around 12-13000 pounds ....a sedan of around 2700 pounds cannot do that

..something else toppled the bullion van

Lokostar01:
You are not smart, what it means is that if you earn above 800k annually they will first remove 800k without tax and the remaining balance that will be tax. So it is better than the old tax law

U don't get the point u are just rushing to spew the same line they are using to brain wash you ....
U are smart .but it doesn't occur to you that there is no one surviving on 66k anymore in this country......why do u think it's now justified to rob the poor of the little they have ..??

Tax exempt should start from 2.4M per per annum and below

Chucks13:
What I will say is since this is going to cause uproar then it should scrap indefinitely so everybody can rest.

It doesn't have to be scraped....it should just focus more high earners and companies... And they would initiate other double taxation ...but they don't care....they just want more money

The truth is there isn't really many companies in Nigeria to collect money from that would amount to huge revenue.....so the real target is 250million everyday individual Nigerians ..
.....
.ask them how much is generated from stamp duty...and how it's is spent....all na voice mail

Now they've started charging those sending money too...the 50naira don sweet to collect

Cmanforall:
That 15% is too much for the first level

Thats exactly what I was trying to say....

Or they categorize tax exempt pple at 200k per month to capture the current economic realities of the poor man..because gone are the days when 200naira can feed one person oer meal....1k can't even buy you a good meal...

It's wickedness to claim you want to tax someone earning 100k when such a person can't even survive with the whole 100k under this economy they destroyed...

JobAndVacancies:
private school teachers are earning way below minimum wage.
They are exempted

Make no mistake...Nobody is surviving on less than 100k in this current nation,....if u think private school teachers paid 30k per month survive on 30k then u are among those that don't get the economic realities of the poor..

...teachers u are talking about get handouts from family and friends to survive...and these addition is what will now be taxed....

Chucks13:
They have be told severaly but they refused to listen so no need telling them again.

Those looters are the main people misinforming the public so they won't pay anything from their loots.

Looters are not misinforming anyone....looters want you to pay say they can loot more.,

They all have NGO accounts and other accounts exempted from taxes so under the old or new tax law...these looter dont pay very little to zero taxes anyway....

DoTheNeedful:
Do you mean Nigerians should not pay taxes because government officials are corrupt? This is one of the most silly arguments I have heard from people.

strawman !!!
....i only said the assessment/categorization is not fair and doesn't capture economic realities

DoTheNeedful:
The fact is that a generally properly-taxed population are more likely to hold their government accountable

this is fallacy statement..

In what way will they ahold their leaders accountable.... By stopping their heavily protected convoy?? By protesting and getting shot or arrested?? I'm just asking sir?

DoTheNeedful:
. It is common in hear people in saner climes use the term "tax-payers' money" when being critical of government's spending. This is a term that is alien to us in Nigeria because many people don't pay taxes.....

u sound like some abroad who come online and assume pple don't pay anything in Nigeria ....if u are not ..i apologize for assuming

We pay PAYE through our employers
My business pays land use tax...
My home pays land use tax...tinubu's team enforces it....the lock your home and business if u don't
We pay Withholding tax
We pay VAT....
The only reason revenue from tax isn't high is because Nigerians have more poor pple.... I predict that in the coming years that the lowest 15% won't be enough....because the govt will realize just how poor Nigerians are....and will want more because money has never been our problem....it's the few stealing it....and they will do so even if we get 500bilion dollars in revenue per month

DoTheNeedful:
By the way, your responses to my previous post are largely dishonest and carefully cherry-picked. I never compared our low tax collection rate to the UK or other advanced countries. I specifically compared it to other African countries. The last time I checked, Nigeria was 3rd or 4th from the bottom in Africa in tax collection rates.

I am expecting you to compare it to Europe because that's the blue print of the nation yall wanna use to tax nigerians

DoTheNeedful:
However, the poor people you pretend to care about pay more taxes under the old law. People earning as low as 400k pay taxes under the old law.

.pretend?? It's funny......400k or less per annum are pple earning just a little over 30k per month....sir..these pple are already tax exempt they are ur poor pple on the street who survived with hand-out from their family, who tinubu's is hoping to tax ....

DoTheNeedful:
Like I have repeated on this thread, people like you are very ignorant and just want to oppose the new law just for the sake of it. Your opposition is not data-driven nor well-informed.

oppose....??
I'm not opposing tax laws...I'm calling for fairness .....I'm calling for established structures that will defeat revenue leakage through the embezzlement culture we have...

I am speaking from premise of failed system that has led only to embezzlement...
You pretended like u ddnt see it sir...where is the gains from fuel and currency subsidy?? That a rhetoric sir....i have the answer...it's in the pocket of the executives, legislators and judiciary heavily protected by the same revenue

DoTheNeedful:
It is unfortunate that we can't debate issues on NL without people like you inputting politics into them.

Politics is interwoven in nigeria system..we live in a country where we play politics with pple's lives....we use our revenue to pay for pple to go to hajj, build mosques, at terrorist, and fund wedding of poor pple ....we live in countries where it's a norm for leaders and their god fathers to steal to recoup their investment during election.....u can't exempt politics from these argument

DoTheNeedful:
The fact that you think my analysis of this tax issue is driven by my political affiliation is unfortunate, and it suggests to me why you are opposing the new tax law in the first place.

Sir, if u will not consider current economic realities , the real position of the poor after tinubu destroyed this economy, the current system that allows corruption and embezzlement then I would assume your analysis is driven by political affiliation because it sounds like what u and the govt wants is pay taxes...what we do with after doesn't matter

helinues:
Per annum or over gagatum, are you going to be taxed for the first N800k?

U came to analyze what u don't even know..
U were asking how many of the pple complaining earns 800k because u thought it was 800k per month
Taxing 15% on the excess of 66k is overly robbing the poor....if u don't see that then u shouldn't be opening this thread

helinues:
Wondering why some of you just like to rant instead of discussing

u came here to support blindly as usual without knowledge of what u came to support.....yet pple that have an actual view are ranting... ??

Sir ..do they pay u people to leave u braln when u join APC??

helinues:
Where did you even get all what you wrote above from? This thread was created to enlighten people like you who are being deliberately mischievous

Enlighten pple?? To enlighten pple also involve saying the truth .....
I only showed you the unfair assessment of poor pple exempted from tax based on current economic realities....something u never consider when bllndly following your oppressors...... Sir....If u want to enlighten pple, start with undiluted truth and fairness....

DoTheNeedful:
You are just being overly critical. A minimum wage earner earns 840,000 in a year. Based on the new tax law, the 40,000 on top of the 800,000 is taxed at 15%, which means that a minimum wage earner pay 6,000 naira per year (500 per month) in tax. A minimum wage earner pays more than this in the old tax regime.

Sir ......The assessment is not fair..it I because u are not critical in the first place or u don't care that why u can't notice
....classifying tax exempt pple at 66k in this current economy is deceptive and outrightly wicked....When u pple want to compare abroad to Nigeria...u will cherry pick to favor your evil govt....

DoTheNeedful:
Many of you that criticize do so either maliciously or due to ignorance.

ignorance...??
Look around you.....the cheapest rent in Nigeria is around 200k......1k can no longer buy a meal for a person, I have not touched bills,
..a 100k per month earner is dead not even poor and shouldn't be near tax with how the currency has been left badly depreciated...

Be critical and compare UK tax exempt to Nigeria....

DoTheNeedful:
Our tax collection rate in Nigeria is one of the poorest even in Africa.

again...mwhen u want to compare Nigeria to abroad u cherry pick....sir...do the pay u pple do these things?

did u compare our embezzlement rate to other nations like the UK and co......??
Did u compare the natural resources we have and our elites spend alone to theirs....?
u only want to compare what will put more money in the pocket of thieves .....sir..welldone

Someone just told 212billiion naira ..thats just one person, yahaya bello is there..just one person....emefiele is there...that just one person caught......and a host of others that were not exposed because u all know it's a syndicate behavior in Nigeria to steal money

DoTheNeedful:
The understanding of tax by Nigerians terrible. Many of you need to get it into your heads that tax payment is vital for any society to thrive.

Sir....u are just speaking English slogan....saying tax is vital for society to thrive is statement is for countries who have sane leaders and established system that actually utilize the taxes and other revenue for their pple...
Not pple who use tax payers money to pay terrorist, and enrich themselves...

..sir, I honestly don't get these justification of milking Nigerians when we know where the money will end up......
The fuel subsidy and currency gains have all ended in the pocket of the executives, law makers and judiciary....

There are 16 nations that don't pay taxes including Saudi thats an oil nation, so that slogan that tax is a must is a manipulative slogan to make pple surrender to exploitation

. Sir, why don't y'all provide justification with the current set of revenues before coming here to quote slogan......
Hello sir......tax is not for society build up in Nigeria ...it's is for embezzlement because the current collection is heavily embezzled..

helinues:
There have been so many misleading information about the new tax law.

If you are earning below N800k, you won't be taxed and if your earnings fall above N1m which is the first tax rate formula, N800k from your N1m is tax free, the charges on the tax will be on the extra N200k

Sir.... stop misrepresenting facts ....
The 800k is per annum...which is just around 66k per month....
Minimum wage is 70k....even cleaner struggling to survive is not tax exempt....

Grandma tha the son sends 80k that's no longer enough in the economy is not even tax exempt

After destroying the economy and purchasing power of the naira ...APC led govt should know that classifying tax exempt at 66k per month is a deceptive assessment to make sure no one is technically tax exempt....

Neoteny:
60,000 is 0.003% of 2 billion, or 0.00075% of the global population.

This means 99.997% of Muslims are NOT jihadists.

welldone sir....at least you are not dishonest that the jihadist are Muslims and part of you.... So sir.....basically a few muslims killing pple here and there shouldn't raise dust naaa ??

Neoteny:
Let's keep it simple: 99.9% of Muslims are not jihadists. There's no math where 0.003% represent 99.9% as majority.

Hello sir...there is nothing simple about violent attacks and killings ...weda it's done by one person or millions of pple....

....so trying to negate the fact that the violence of few doesn't matter is deception sir.....it's a common tactic used by you Muslims.... Violence is violence...dont paint it as no bid deal

Neoteny:
So how on earth is Islam a pain to humanity?

sir, do u realize how long these Islam driven killing has been going on?? Since ur prophet still date ....u want to pretend like it's nothing sir?

Neoteny:
Hundreds of millions killed because of geopolitical hegemony, but somehow 0.003% are the problem.

Wake up

So basically sir....u are quoting past war statistics just to water down the religious driven violence of your pple all over the world??

sir....if you wanna drop statistics....go and draw out all the amount of pple your religion driven violence has murdered from ur prophet, to all the caliphates after him, ISIs, Alqaeda, Bokoharam...... U are just justifying and watering down evil...

daughters13:
This is a lie.....................

It must be a lie ma..

Iran was a secular state before it became Islamic...
.Mecca was not an Islamic state until ur prophet forced it on them,....

Hello ma, do u know how many locations that's under Islamic rule in northern Nigeria by Bokoharam and ISWAP and forced to pay jizyah just as Mohammed imposed it in mecca ??
But this one is a lie shaaa....

ahmedio2017:
I'm a Muslim and you can see I'm quoting Quran for you, if anything is not clear to you about Islam pls always refer back to Quran, gumi is not our prophet, how can he turn himself to terro.rists spokesperson? That's wrong, Islam does not support terrorism in any form. Islam encouraged tolerance practice what you believe, live and let others live....

Hello sir, u said Islam encourage tolerance?? ...but your prophet took over mecca after fighting and made it Islam alone territory then imposed jizyah on the non-muslims?? Please sir, how is that tolerance??

Second sir,.. How is what he did different from what these people are doing now in the north??

honesttalk21 see your brothers ., u pple have started again

Later u will pretend that these acts is just normal happenings ...but they doing the same thing your prophet did and even demand for jizyah...

You and your imams will not come and preach to your fellow Muslim to stop these acts...it's when non-muslims now talk...u will be saying they hate you ....u will start quoting mainstream scholars debate....

Mabuggi88:
You serious?
Any problem to the engine?

He said engine na 70%
Use your discretion

They will say shariah is for Muslim alone, just for marriage and settlement of dispute among Muslim.....when govt allows them they start harassing non-muslims....

Bmaster:
does humans have the power within them to mutate their genes ?

Again,why did the mutation only ends on malaria?
Why is it that the good geature wasn't extended to other blood diseases including cancer, haemorrhage,tumor and HIV/AIDS?

Mutation is an autopilot and auto-start thing .
We can't just decide to mutate our genes....but our body is capable of doing so.......
.it can show up in many member of species after many generations of being affected by the disease ....it can also can show up in a few or eleven one person after years of selective pressure caused by a disease

the sad part is....it can cause negative outcomes as well...... Thats how u find pple with rare genetic disease and as also pple with special mutation in their blood like James Harrison who has Anti-D antibody in his blood used to save the life of children with rhesus disease...

the thing with cancer is that cancer na werey..
Unlike malaria or other disease that your body sees as a foreign agent that should not be in your body and start to fight it........cancer is actually your body cells that's just behaving abnormally for reasons unknown....

...so the immune system that fight disease doesn't see cancer as a foreign agent and therefore doesn't fight it... So it will take a miracle for the body to develop selective pressure because of cancer and become immune against is......

The minimum wage earner will not eat abi, he will not pay bills, he will just collect 70k and start saving everything..... Minimum wage earner cannot afford anything without stealing and cutting corners......

Bmaster:
i don't understand,break it down for me.

In short summary...malaria infection is what made us develop mutation of our normal AA gene to AS gene.,
And humans caused the spread of malaria, it's infection and many species

Bmaster:
i don't understand,break it down for me.

Humans basically spread mosquito round the world through ship travel across ocean to different locations....

Malaria became common since mosquito carry the parasite

Naturally when a new disease enters the ecosystem.....species will naturally find ways to defeat the disease by adapting their immune system ......if the animal is lucky....it will become immune....to develop immunity is a mutation of the gene which makes a disease unable to make the animal fall sick


... if not the disease will continue infect the population and may lead to extinction if not controlled

As human populations became infected with malaria , the human gene began to fight against malaria developing mutations of the normal AA gene causing AS gene to emerge which is less acceptable to malaria but not 100% immune...

But as AS increased among population, cross through sex with another AS naturally happens causing the SS- sickle cell gene to emerge..

Bmaster:
I will change my genotype.
I hate the current genotype God gave me,sometimes it makes me question him.
If everything God created is good,why not make Adam AA and eve AA.
Okay,if Adam was AA and Eve AA, from where did the S genotype in human came from.
Or,are we truly from Ape ?

God dnt give you any faulty Genotype.......

Mans activity & manipulation on earth caused the development of mutation of the normal AA gene because the human genome wanted to resist the malaria parasite infection, which caused the S gene mutation...sadly we humans don't stop fvcking...........AS mutation and AS mutation produce SS.....it's just magic biology..


First, man refuse to stay in one place.,our curiosity to see the world , ushered water travel....e go shock you say na migration via ships be the major way mosquitoes, especially disease-carrying ones spread globally.....u fit Google am...

Then when malaria started to rise, scientist started to created mutants in lab to study them and possible produce cure ....if u doubt me check how many scientist receive prize for new findings in the fight against malaria...

Baba all na wash.....na like Bokoharam....na them start am, na them still dey fight am, writing research journals to flex in the medical and biochemistry journal that they are saviors..

Na we by ourselves spoil the earth and destroy our DNA