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Kukutente23:
That you could not comprehend is a fact not an insult. I made a satirical rhetoric and you took it literally. It shows you missed the point.
Telling me I'm not well is not healthy dialogue neither is telling me to fvck off to hell. You even called me mad!
Both outbursts show your emotional lilliputian state and how difficult it is for you to accept when your position on issues is wrong.
It's a pity.

I have told u to fvck off earlier...its not an outburst ... I was tired of dialogue with u because u just kept saying the same thing and it was clear u are one of those that want to be right by all means....

Like I said before man....fvck the hell off

Kukutente23:
It's unfortunate that you failed to see the sarcasm in my remarks
Again you resort to insults because something is beyond your ability to comprehend.
It's a pity

Telling me I can't comprehend because I disagree with u is annoying and an insult.....I dint have to agree..u dont have to agree.....we can still have a healthy dialogue submitting our views...

I told u earlier...to fvck to hell off

Babathanks:
I bet you have never travel outside the country before. this shia islamist take over that country with revolution. I have met alot of Iranian in dubai, Canada and qatar. They all hate this mullars. You can't know more than there citizen, all this mullar impoverished Iran even with them having the highest deposit of crude oil in the world. You would now be seeing Iranian doing menial job in Dubai. You needed to hear the story from them directly and stop supporting rubbish on the internet. Many Iranian are my friends. Nigerians always love bad things and that's why the country would never develop

All this history will not change fact that... that's it the law over there...just like LGBT people can do any how in Russia....there's no divorce in Philippines..u must die there..
14 years in prison in Nigeria for lgbt...

My bone of contention with you pple is this...
Weda is Afghanistan or Iran, or Iraq....the caliphate is rulling right?? So why are u behaving as if u don't know Islamic laws..

U said pple are complaining...The people there follow this laws...and even go to liberal nations and still use their hijabs....so why are u pple making it look like hijab is an evil thing all the women want to refuse....??

Babathanks:
With people like you. There is no hope for Nigeria. why are you supporting injustice

because u don't agree with the law of a land does not change the fact that its their law...

Can gay pple start marrying themselves in Nigeria...?? It's their law....if u don't like it. Go and hug transformer...

Kukutente23:
. I hope I am right in your eyes

Oh ...u have been dialoguing with me placate ur ego that u are right? So this is an invincible trophy contest for you??

Honestly u be werey....

As in .....o gbadun rara

Kukutente23:
Can you explain why you think she should not have the right to make that simple decision?

The reason why she should obey the law of her land until it changes which is a law on modest dressing is the same reasons gay men and women can't marry in Nigeria...and they have to obey..

It's the same reason divorce is not allowed in the Philippines by law ..u marry u die there.

Kukutente23:
Iran as a nation has the right to make laws but the laws should be across board. You cannot make laws to restrict a certain section of society and call it a just law. Before God and man, such laws are unjust. Why should wearing of veil only apply to the women? Why is there no law regulating the dressing of men? What the law is saying is that men are freer than women which is also one of the hallmarks of racial laws. I really don't know why an African will be supporting such laws though. In African societies before colonialism, women were free to wear what they wish. However, they also suffered some restrictions such as a virgin should not be seen walking about during some cult festivals lest she be used as sacrifice. Also, some cultures encourage the usage of hunchbacks as sacrifice too while some prohibited giving birth to twins. I'm sure you will have no problem with calling these laws unjust but you are here to defend Iranian men putting their women in sacks based on some medieval laws. An unjust law has no business existing especially in this age of enlightenment of mankind. You need to be aware of that. That's what Iranian women are fighting for and you need to understand that and respect that instead of being on the side of their oppressors.

...na simple question I ask you..and u are already assuming context....answering what I didn't ask you....

All u have here is judging a nation's law based on another nation's standard....

In the UK.....men pay more for insurance and driver's licence than women..it's the law...is it not biased against men...?? They have their reasons for enacting such law ..


U said one law is bad ..one law is good...who is the judge of bad and good?

Bad or good is relative ...I hope u know??
Is LGBT laws good...promoting chemicalizing children/minors with puberty blockers,??

Is it a good law for Nigerian to jail same sex offenders for 14 years??

Is capital punishment/death penalty good?? Should any state have the right to kill anyone??

Since u are forming the judge of good law and bad laws....please let us know is good for someone to be able to wake up and claim male today and female tomorrow.??

Do u think Iran made their laws just to be wicked?? Bros there are justification for every law in every state .....no state makes its law as a bad law...u are just an asslicker of thr west.


... At the end of the day ....u don't have the right to tag someone's law as good or bad because u don't agree...... Wether it's hijab laws or LGBT laws...

Laws evolve...I did laws and ethics one one of my courses....and the fact is laws are never black and white.......they are sometimes established because of current situation of things, because of people, culture, location, behavioral paternity in a location......... So don't come trying to claim high and mighty to be the judge of what's right and wrong....

Kukutente23:
Learn to get the right info on things before making claims. Check the screenshot below to see the origin and intention of the expression. It refers to visitors alone and it's even clear from the expression of you have a good understanding of English.


It is obvious you're not familiar with MLK and the struggle. He was arrested countless times one of which was refusing to leave their seats for a white man at store.

let's now apply your do as the Romans do principle to the leader of Iran. Why will he want Amanpour to wear a veil outside iran? Is wearing veil a requirement in New York? You see how you are defending wrong things now? Shouldn't you call the Iranian supreme leader out for trying to force his beliefs on a woman in foreign soil?



America does not allow symbols of religion in public institutions and buildings but Muslims have been agitating to be allowed to wear their hijab to schools, hospitals and stadia. How does that sound?


Is there any provision for "raising concern through Parliament " in iran? We all saw pro-palestinian protests in UK how loud and large it was. Its it possible for Jews and Christians in Iran to also organise protests in Iran?

How come Muslims can protest in non- Muslim countries but non- Muslim can't protest in Muslim countries?

You see the hypocrisy you're defending now? They take advantage of systems they don't allow in countries they control and you're here saying it's OK.

Wait let me get u cos I dont.... does Iran as a nation have the right to have laws on dressing ??

Kukutente23:
You just keep mixing things up.
Law is not law. There are bad laws and there are good laws. Laws need to be tested to know if they are good or bad. If they are bad, they need to be done away with. A law that says keep women in sacks because their faces can make a man miss his way is a bad law. There's no difference between that law and racial discrimination. It is totally different from sexuality laws which at best are based on sexual preference (which is a choice) or perversion at worst.
Stop mixing things up. You're not making sense

I didn't mention u...u jump into a conversation between me and someone else and u are saying I'm mixing things up....please if u can't read to get my context....but only want to accuse based on ur perception or western view of right and wrong.....please fvck the hell off

ObalendeCMS:
Since a female has been chosen to be in charge of nairaland, I'll suggest that the "Real Men" avoid any thread other than the redpill thread.

Don't bother to give any advice to simps that bring his problem to the romance section.

Death to all irredeemable simps!

That's not happening....shutting men up is what they want....so we can have only simps and mr nice guys here licking their assés .

These their plan is beyond these rape comment from some of these stvpid guys here.....

Imagine some idîots complaining that comments that's not in support of marriage is an attack against women .... Saying young boys will read it and not want to get married...since when did not wanting marriage bcome a crime??

..everything is an attack against them...
guys say they want want virgin....they get triggered
...u complain about paternity fraud, they don't want to hear it..
..u complain of cheating, being exploited...they say y are hate them....
all they wanna see is praises and for men to say women are saint and only do evil because men made them do it...

CJStarz:
Meaning that the status quo of women rights abuse stands? Na wa o
Ain't there other ways of punishing the offender without inflicting bodily harm on the person?
I no understand una o

u can jump into wateva conclusions u like ..

About the type of punishment....I don't know how they came up with flogging or 2 years in prison.... But u know Nigeria also has 14 years in prison for gay pple....(and I know u are probably not frowning at it because u probably don't like shît fvckers)

asanausana91:
all Islamic countries are practicing dictatorship but they will be first to claim human rights ones they reach Europe or US

Yeah ..when US and Europe refused to bring up strict laws against them.....
If u claim u are liberal u can't also be strict..... France is paying heavily for opening their borders to them...

asanausana91:
this is wickedness. People like you will be claiming democracy when it didn't favour. Why must you force a Christian to wear hijab? Next you guys will start forcing everyone to go to mosque.

Yes it is wickedness...
If u heard a gay man received 40 strokes of the cain in Iran for being gay...u will say it's the law of the land..why is he practicing his gay shiit in a place like that?? Abi??...

It's barbaric to jail someone for 14 years because they fvck men....(but I know u agree because we all don't like pple fvcking shît inside yansh its nigerian law naaaa)

Law na law....we only scream when we don't like it....and praise it when we support it.... I am not a Muslim ....but law is law until it's over turned

jamesversion:
What is good for the North is also good for the South.

U are just capping....
The south is dulling ..it should introduce laws too.... In the US laws are not the same across board....what legal in Ohio can be illegal in San Francisco....

Kukutente23:
For your 1 above, you are beginning to get confused. The expression "When in Rome behave like Romans" applies to non-Romans and not citizens of Rome. Your analogy is like saying to a Nigerian to behave like one when in Nigeria. How does that make sense when he is already Nigerian? Like I said before, you just keep shifting everywhere with offpoints.

The expression " when u are in Rome, behave like Romans," is for both outsider visiting a place and also the usual resident...u don't have to agree though...thats one problem with you, u want me to agree with you...a healthy dialogue doesnt have to mean agreeing with all u say.....

Kukutente23:
For your no. 2, if we are to go by your logic, any law existing will never be changed since everyone is expected to abide by the laws without question.

I never said laws can't be changed.....I only said there are better ways to raise ur voice than removing hijab and showing cleavage in a country where the law doesn't even favour you , not even powerful nations will support u..

Kukutente23:
MLK, Tubman, Malcom X and a host of others defied racial segregation laws in the US and it was their protests and rallies that eventually led to the abrogation of such laws. Iranian women protesting against use of hijab of which this woman is among is in same class.

Are protest and rallies breaking the law in the US where Malcom lived...??
I told u earlier ....there are better ways to protest....but u do selective reading because all u want to do is accuse me....

Kukutente23:
If you feel the women are wrong and forming woke to protest against forceful use of hijab, then you should also accept that MLK and co were wrong to rail against racism.

Sigh....She was protesting by snapping cleavage and no hijab pics and uploading it online in iran.. Yeah.. that's a good protest... . Please tell me what laws the Malcom broke while protesting?

Kukutente23:
You can't say until the laws are changed everyone is expected to comply and still think MLK and co were right to protest against unjust laws.

Like I said there are better ways to disagree against the laws of where u live?? If u can't get that, then I cannot help you....

Kukutente23:
Be informed that Iranian women have been protesting against forceful usage of hijab for a while and their stand is that hijab usage is not meant to be forceful or compulsory under sharia edict. The oppressive men who are forcing them to comply are those you are supporting with your illogical application of when in Rome behave like Romans.

So the government didn't enforce it ...but some pple are just oppressing women... ?? Dude..the leader of Iran refused to be interviewed by Christina amanpour just because she didn't use Hijab despite the interview is outside iran.. yet u are here saying its just oppressive men enforcing hijab use... ....okay...opinion is free...

Kukutente23:
Like I said, it should be across board. When the Shah is going to New York, he should wear a suit since he is going to America and should behave like Americans.

Exactly....but u are just viewing wrongly because in America suit is not the dress code.... liberality in dressing is allowed as long as u are not completely núde... there are no strict dressing guide...everyone dresses how they want include the use of hijab if u like........if America bans hijab use ..then no Muslims can go and do anyhow in america...

Wait ..Why are u crying for america that has not banned liberal dressing??
Take this Unrelated example...Hope u know there are no Muslims holidays in the UK, Ireland and co. despite there is freedom of religion expression. .... It's the law...and I've not seen any Muslim protesting by breaking laws... They are raising their concerns through the parliament....

jamesversion:
The North of Nigeria is governed by Sharia law, which they consider above the constitution of Nigeria.

Ur point??

afrika:
If the USA or CANADA decides to say, dress like them despite helping the middle east accommodate them as asylum seekers, refugees, press would have been crying by now.

Just reading n thinking out loud

Press will shout because it will mean that US and Canada is going against it's liberal laws....some pple don't care about right or wrong ..because its a relative matter at the end of the day......they just care about laws not being broken...

Take this unrelated example...that 19year British citizen old that went to join ISIS..and the UK banned her from entry and stripped her of citizenship for affiliations with terrorists

There was outcry from press .... pple still raised support for her to get her back into the UK with her children she birthed in ISIS camp.....funny thing is it doesn't make them terrorist apologist as they supported under the law that a person cannot be stateless..

Kukutente23:
The joke is on you who is supporting the hypocrisy of Islamic countries when it is shown to you by claiming it's because western countries are not smart while the next breath you preach when you're in Rome behave like Romans.
Like I said, stay in one place. If you want to preach about behaving like Romans, kindly preach it across board.
If you want to preach for every country not to allow freedom, preach it. You can't be preaching both at the same time. It makes you look like an hypocrite

Sigh...context is hard for you....ur brain is doing selective reading

Kukutente23:
You're just jumping left, right and centre and refusing to stay in one place.

The concept of behaving like Romans does not arise in this thread because the woman in question is a citizen of Iran and not a visitor.

If I say ur IQ is low now...u will get angry.... Is she not supposed to be iranian....why is she not behaving like an iranian...it's like dont know what that expression means (Romans should behave like Romans)

Kukutente23:
If we're to go by your logic of respect for archaic and barbaric laws, then people like MLK were just dissidents since the existing laws in US they fought against supported racial segregation.

Law is law..until it's abolished...weda its right in ur eyes or not.......that's why I have u examples of unreasonable laws even in free secular states but u saw it as jumping left and right...

Kukutente23:
Even here in nigeria, the Osu caste system, human sacrifices, Decree 4 of 1984 shouldn't have been abrogated since they were laws and everyone was expected to conform.

The law existed ...until they were abolished. ...until the caliophate is removed...u will have to dance to the tune of the law of the land... There's is nothing brave about puting urself in danger because u want to show ur hair and cleavage

Kukutente23:
An archaic law is archaic even if it is existing. Laws should be based on social equity, justice and fairness and not some medieval beliefs that's not rooted in any social justice.

Agreed....still that's just forming woke over another state's law...... Islamic pple don't care about being woke....their laws involve women using hijab.....u refuse..u collect.....

Kukutente23:
The woman in question is speaking the mind of millions of Iranian women who protested last year about forceful wearing of hijab.

Sure......freedom of speech is not guarantee of freedom after speech....it happens in Nigeria so there's nothing brave about breaking laws in public that will put u into trouble when there are other ways of voicing ur concerns

Kukutente23:
There are a lot of Muslim countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Libya where hijab is not forced. Some have even banned it.

Good for them.....until it is banned .. isnt it advisable for Iranians not behave like americans inside iran??

Kukutente23:
So flogging a woman for refusing to wear hijab is simply barbaric no matter how much you shift between apologist and realist.

I never said it's not barbaric....I only said they knew the rules of where they live...why behave otherwise....to for vandamme or to form "i no go gree for anybody" ??

Kukutente23:
Qatar shifted its stance on LGBT simply because of outcry towards the world cup in 2022.

Qatar did not allow PDA and other LGBT nonsense.....I don't what u mean by shift its stance

Kukutente23:
And the Baker in colorado won his case at the supreme court.

Did it stop the fact that the baker was harassed......?? How many other pple won their cases...... Are LGBT folks winning their case in Russia...?? U think u are smart....
When this Islamic people refuse LGBT and deal with them.....u will support them.....are u not just cherry picking their laws??

OyinO:
Keep quiet jare. Do they themselves behave like Romans when they go to Rome? Whenever they go to other places, they take their religious culture with them and practice it openly there. So what are you saying? Haven't you seen where they do whatever that pleases them even in other people's lands?

Ur problem is that context is hard for u to grab
But I will try and indulge you ...

The joke is on secular states..... At the end of the day Everyone needs to tighten their laws....go and read about France and see the problem Muslims are giving them......

This same Iran was never an Islamic state..mit was a secular state....until the caliphate took over.....and that's how the caliphate behave...same with Afghanistan after the United states left......that's how Mohammed took medina/Saudi and it became it Islamic country till date....

If care is not taken....the caliphate will exploite countries' liberal freedom of religion laws and gradually over run their country...

jumper524:
there’s nothing brave about openly disobeying the laws of a land.

Leave them....na wetin I talk wey them call me terrorist and suicide bomber... ... They all like to form woke online......even the United states have unreasonable laws....

. When journalists go to these wicked Islamic states...they use hijab and follow whatever laws they have...but resident wants to form brave
Worldcup was hosted in UAE ....the west collect warning not to bring their LGBT shitss and other secular state freedom there...no PDA...no hugging or kissing in public.... Or u go collect.....and everyone complied

Daystar7:
Name calling and hurling of insults at strangers on a faceless forum is all you immature folks know how to do.
You were trying to put the barbaric acts of this Muslims side by side with Christianity and I checked you. And no, Jesus Christ gave us just one command not commandments like in the Mosaic law of the old testament. The only command is "Love". Love God and love your neighbor both of which you've failed to demonstrate. Even in the Mosaic law, it is always "thou shall" never "must" like this Muslims do.
You seem to lack comprehension, clearly not a Christian as you claim and too pompous to learn.
And no, I read the word and have a personal relationship with God, I don't need no Pastor to tell me what God says or keep my Bible closed till Sunday.

U have understand problem....I did not try to do anything...u are the one assuming what u like....u brought Christianity arguments into this....
All I said is when u are in Rome(Iran) behave like Romans(Iranians) ......and u assumed I was a supporter of everything going on in Rome(Iran)....aren't u daft??

Kukutente23:
It's ok
You've done from Islamic apologist to realist.
My point is that you can't rationalize the viewpoint of those Islamic countries. While it is alright to declare Islamic codes, it must be accepted that flogging, stoning, beheading and such other barbaric treatments need to be outlawed and the rights of women in such societies protected.

It's not my problem u took my comment out of context...i never told u i was an apologist...

.me saying u should behave like Romans when u are rome doesn't mean I am an apologist of whatever is done in rome....it's me saying use ur brain and keep urself safe ..

Ur point is forming woke and ignoring the fact that there are laws in places whether it's right or wrong in ur eyes.....
Another fact is....every state has a way of rationalizing their laws...from iran to UK or Australia.....u are the one failing to see it.....and u will do well to obey if u find urself in such countries instead if forming human right....

In the UNited states ..a baker was fined 15000$ and her business closed because she won't bake cakes for a gay couple.... Since when did it bcome a crime not to give service whenever I want ...

So many pple have lost their jobs because of their views about LGBT in Canada... Doctor lost his job becos he refused surgery for a trans person based on personal ethic and beliefs..

In Russia u can't do anyhow if u are gay or pro LGBT....so what are u saying ......there are laws everywhere...

TWoods:
The real low IQ is arguing that a grown woman should be lashed in public for her choice of clothing...

Go and drink beer in front of hishbah police in Kano because Nigeria is a secular state....when journalist go their they obey their laws..but residents want to form "no gree for anybody"
Are u just hearing of Iran..??
Iran that their ruler refused interview with a CNN journalist because she didn't use hijab, not inside iran .......so why will u a resident inside iran be endangering ur life because u want to form vandamme??

If u are gay ..u don't do anyhow in Russia...
If u are religious ..u don't do anyhow in Sweden or Norway...u go collect....if that's do difficult for u to understand l, then I cannot help you

Kukutente23:
It's not true that only Democratic states are secular. China is secular and it is not a Democratic state. Swaziland is secular and is a monarchical state.
Can you give example if crazy laws that exists in North Korea?
The obvious is the hypocrisy of Islamic states who oppress people using their laws but will want freedom to practice their laws in other countries

.that's why I used the word usually..but it's like u want to argue ......

The joke is on secular states allowing freedom of religion .........later secular states will have sense and start banning Muslims...... France cannot control the anymore....that's how they took Iran and it became an islamic state..

Karnice600:
Looks like you skipped grammar basics with Queen’s Primer or it’s equivalents.
Why you couldn’t understand it is foundational. Someone who’s got the basics will do.

👌🏼

Please...I don't have ur time.....u are just blabbing...

Daystar7:
You know nothing about Christianity. True Christianity is not religion but a way of life modeled after our Lord and Saviour. Jesus Christ never forced us to come Him, it's always a choice, it's Life and death, u choose! Christians don't go about policing people on their dressing on behalf of God when it's really due to their own perversion. Jesus Christ never forced anything on us, and we don't force anything on people on His behalf either. This Muslim religion is based on falsehood and deceit, Anti-christ spirit which why it's destruction anywhere they're. They bring nothing but sorrow and death and tell us it's a religion of peace, like how? It's blood everywhere and they call it peace.

And where did I tell u Jesus forced u to to cime to him....u be werey abeg....u just want to blab....
Jesus Christ gave commandments to those who want to follow him to obey.....it's not a do as u like ...... Don't deceive urself.....if u do not truly obey them u are not a follower of Jesus Christ...let ur pastors keep deceiving u of freedom and grace gospel.... Ur lifestyle as a Christian must emulate the commandments of Jesus.....

aestake:
Some people are tired of that bullshitt.

Of course...there was no caliphate in Iran many years back before they forcefully took over....until they liberate themselves.... They will have to obey whateva islamic law they use there....

Kukutente23:
America has no law on dressing because it is a secular state not because it is a democratic state. In a secular state, religion should be removed from public view. As such hijab has no business being seen in public

Tell that to the caliphate....only states that run democratic laws are usually secular states so what's your point.....these Islamic states and other dictator countries like North Korea enforce rules that oppress their citizens..but it's their law....if u know how many crazy law exist in north Korea u go shock..

...I only pointed to the obvious....if outsiders like journalist got to Iran and obey their laws...why will u a resident be putting urself in danger...it's like going to drink beer in front of hisbah police in Kano.... If u pple are too slow understand that ...I cannot help u

linearity:
Is UAE not a fully Islamic State? Yet, there is tolerance for other religions and faiths.

What exactly is ur point?? Is this news about UAE or Iran....is like u people don't know how the caliphate behave .....

Karnice600:
Whenever you’re giving examples to back up your claims, use healthy ones, not premature instances or anomalies.


...Even in Nigeria where there is democracy...u can't go to some.parts of the north where shariah is fully constitutional and not wear hijab or u mistakenly wear mini skirt...



Having a religious constitution embedded in a secular constitution to run a country with is an exceptional form of illiteracy and uselessness.

Nigeria is an example of such; a dual Constitution country that’s stepping forward to end backwards.
Where the Nigerian law frowns at under aged marriages or sexual indulgences, sharia upholds it, making a mess of civilization in its entirety.

Out of context...

What are u saying??

CJStarz:
U justification of this dastardly act shows you're a terrorist

U cannot read properly.... Try not to lose context next time


When Christina amanpour and many other journalist go to Iran, Afghanistan, etc they don't make mistake of not using their hijab.... So why are the residents flouting the rules of the caliphate??
When u are in Rome...be have like Romans..
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