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fratermathy:
Urhobos are neighbours to Igbos and when Igbos are mentioned, it is simply to assert good neighbourliness and nothing else.

In this post, Igbo was mentioned thrice:
i. that Delta Igbos identify with Warri brand
ii. that Igbos voted for Efe
iii. that Igbos update status to ChukwunEFE

How are these in any way comparable to Igbos adding Urhoboland to their much despised Biafra? How are these even subtle forms of tribalism?

Abeg e, just leave us alone and we will leave you alone.

I have actually enjoyed your articles especially the TOP tens. But from your reasoning on this thread, i'm beginning to doubt if truly you wrote those articles.

If being neighbors with Igbos gives you the right to stick your tongue in Igbo matters, why can't i stick my tongue in your matter? Are we no longer neigbours again? Lol.

When have i ever mentioned Biafra and Urhobo in the same sentence. Scratch that, when have i ever been a proponent of Biafra. It seems you're seeing double.

Sanchez01:
No need for branding. My problem with those online does not affect the larger Igbo friends I have. My grouse is that majority of those who make tribal issues out of everything is that they are too blind to see the bigger picture, and that includes you.

If it is not about the Yorubas, then it must be about how Gowon deceptively split the country and how the term 'South South' means nothing. I enjoy my engagements on here and that is because I pass my message across in the best way possible towards those who believe the struggle of the South East automatically is the struggle of the South South.

I have stronger convictions to believe you are far worse than I assumed since I have been ranked 'the worst of the worst' . The average, aggressive, shallow-minded secessionist from the Igbo group believes those who don't stand with them are worse than he'll. And am I shocked? Heck no!

Again, put an end to your voyeuristic tendencies as it would in no way profit you. We all have our prejudice, subtle or not, but I believe you really should learn the art of decorum, particularly when it involves 'minority groups'.

I actually wish i could understand what you wrote up there. I couldn't even pick your intent.

fratermathy:
The Aniomas are my brethen. We are co-Deltans and I have a better claim to speak what THEY HAVE SAID than you guys, East of the Niger can ever lay claim to.

You said I have always claimed Aniomas are not Igbos, kindly quote or mention any post of mine where that was said NOW or remain a LIAR forever!!!

If I respect myself and do not venture to the East of the Niger for the reason that rabid dogs are there, ready to bite even innocent passersby, then you should have the respect and leave us out of your imperialist concerns. We nor want!!!! Urhobos are not Igbos, we have nothing to do with Igbo and never will!!!

The Edos and Urhobos are my brethren, We're fellow Nigerians, so just like you think you have the right to talk about Anioma, i also have the right to speak about Edos and Urhobos to the best of my knowledge.

Who has ever claimed Urhobo to be Igbo. Are you inherently dense or just trying to sound silly for the sake of it. We have better things to occupy out time with than to try to claim Urhobo. What exactly is the attraction?

fratermathy:
Oniovo, thank you.

My problem with these mods, especially Bigfrancis21 and Afam4eva, is that they are Igbo supremacists! They comment on every thread and drop bigoted bombs, disguised as sensible comments. They spark controversies and claim to be fighting for Igbo in a forum where everyone knows the trouble makers. They ban people selectively and hide only comments that they feel is not needed for their agenda.

How many times do we see Seun, Dominique, Lalasticlala, et al, comment on tribalistic threads? These guys I've listed have been able to suck it all up and ignore certain things. They have understood that people will talk and because of their roles on this forum, they cannot be deemed to be partial and tribalistic. I really have respect for these guys.

Bigfrancis21 and this guy, on the other hand, act so sanctimonious and believe they must use the powers of a moderator to carry out their benign Igbo agenda. Look at how the Bigfrancis21 came to this thread to drop bread crumbs bordering on Urhobo-Isoko unity as if to say Urhobos are "land grabbing" Isoko even when the compounded term is there "Urhobo-ISOKO"! How many times have they used terms like Igbo-Ikwerre, Igbo-Anioma, Igbo-Ukwuani, etc? After that, he said Warri is Itsekiri personal property, a statement that caused a series of wars from 1999-2003 (as if he didn't know). Even till date, an Itsekiri man dares not say that in Warri openly or else he'd be buried alive. But a nairaland moderator deems it fit to bring it up on a thread about Urhobo/Isoko unity and the Warri brand. If that is not tribalism, what is? Is that all? No. He also proceeded to say Urhobos are not the 5th largest ethnic group. Is it in his place to say that? Has he become an authority simply because he is a mod? All the available literature say otherwise yet for some anti-Urhobo and pro-Igbo reason, he feels it needs to be said to massage his ego and that of his kinsmen who derailed this thread!!

Afam4eva is coming now with his sanctimonious BS of Edo/Delta groups acculturating to bigger groups. I know the next thing he would say is that Urhobos travellers to Onitsha and Enugu have been Igbonised. Since that is all they know.

They are quick to call someone a tribalist and point out "precedents" without considering theirs. Their precedent of Igbo supremacy oozes over the forum. When their kinsmen say Urhobos are Biafrans and I go and correct that impression, they say I am anti-Igbo yet they quickly rush to Urhobo and other minority threads to ejacula*te hatred all over the place.

Seun, once more, if you want Nairaland to be free from tribal hate, start by demodding these tribalistic mods. My humble advice!!

This epistle of yours is filled with truths no doubt. But they're truths about yourself. No wonder you wrote beautifully. Can you show me any thread that you have written about Urhobo, Isoko or warri that you did not include Delta Igbos through hook and crook. You're the master of this subtle tribalistic game. So, stop playing the victim.

Sanchez01:
It is quite unfortunate you are mod. You are really no different from the foot soldiers who jump from thread to thread spilling all sorts. And quite frankly, I have come to observe this trend of your towards the so-called minority groups.

The other day, you invaded a thread the likes of me would term innocent and turned it around with bigotry, while other bigot-breathing dragons joined in the frenzy. You really should know when to limit these things. Decorum go a long way.

And I honestly don't see the need why you have to drool over Igboid groups in Delta State when clearly your fellow war soldiers on here insult some part of the SE in order to demonstrate superiority. You should really learn the place of decorum. In due time, the Igboid groups outside of the South East would choose their place and by heavens, we have no issues with them. It is only natural they recognize and long for their origin, but please stop jumping on harmless threads all in a bid to grabbing more lands.

Do have a wonderful evening.

If i hadn't encounted your caustic tribal idiocy all over this trhead, i would have actually considered repenting from my non existent sin. But you represent the worst of the worst on this forum. You've been masturbating on Igbo issues as long as i can remember, so you're in no position to play the saint. I can understand fratermathy because he's very subtle about his tribal disposition.

Btw, i seized being a mod some 2 years ago. Peace be with you.

fratermathy:
Maybe you have me mistaken for someone else. I AM A STANCH ADVOCATE FOR IGBO UNITY! All these Delta Igbos and Rivers Igbos deceiving themselves are nothing but Igbos and that is how I see them.

But then again, they have a right to call themselves whatever they want. If they say they are not Igbos, that is their right and their own palaver for that matter.

Prove me wrong by quoting ANYWHERE I have said Delta Igbos are not Igbos??


As for the Edo/Delta thing, leave the Edoid groups from your supremacist inclinations. Period! You can talk about any group in the Delta up to the Ukwuani, if you want. But don't ever ever speak for Urhobo/Isokos!!! You don't have the right and detribalized carriage to ever do that.

Talk about your people and leave it at that else, we will eat you and any other imperialist, raw like Iribotor!

You still haven't answered my question.

How come you can speak for and drool over Anioma issues and i cannot venture into the Edoid territories?

Lol This really got me laughing. Who una be? Una never reach. You're lucky i've given my life to Christ because if you had made this silly statement about some 4 years ago on this forum, you wouldn't have found it funny. Choose your battles wisely. I take no prisoners. Afam bu Afam.

fratermathy:
I know the next line of argument you would toe in your write-up and trust me, the Edo/Delta people will have your head for Owho soup dinner. Just leave us from your majority ethnocentricism. I was so surprised that you did not exhibit your usual Igbo supremacist tendencies, like your colleague Bigfrancis21. Wonders really never end.

O boy, which one you dey? I asked a simple qestion and you're all up in arms. Ogini?

I think you're the one who tend to drag other groups, particularly the Igbos in topics that have nothing to do with them and when people respond, you call them supremacist. have you forgotten how always maliciously have to include the fact that Igboid groups in Delta state don't like the Igbo tag but now you're all in arms because i mentioned Edo and Delta. What gives you the right to pry into other people's issues and not me?

Nowenuse:
I dont know about RMD but as for Fathia Balogun i think she is Urhobo, she said it with her own mouth in the 2015 AMVC awards.
If you can get a medium to watch that award show again, pls do watch it and when she came out to receive a certain award (from yoruba film category i believe) she confirmed that she was an urhobo girl. I myself was very shocked and surprised, many of us always assumed that she was yoruba.

Many Deltans (Urhobo-Isokos mostly) who settled in Yoruba lands decades ago gave their children yoruba names and many were yorubanized. I also had a hostel mate like that during university whose name was Funmilola, the day she told me that she was an Isoko girl from Delta, i was shocked because even her father had a yoruba name, he speaks native Ijebu as well as Ijebu natives and married an ijebu woman according to her. Her grandparents were the ones who migrated from Isoko, Delta state and today almost her whole family have been Yorubanized (the long explanation was unnecessary though, i hope u get the point am trying to pass).

I'm opening a topic on this issue. I've noticed that minorities particularly those from the Edo/Delta axis always tend to aculturize (any better word?) to bigger groups without you knowing that they are from these places until they tell you.Unlike Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas who mantain their culture to a large extent.

Sometimes i wonder why this country is full of moronic dingbats who keep on advertising their stupidity. It's the same people who will say that Nnamdi Kanu should be locked up that will come and tell us how one f their friend was arrested for speaking the truth and you wonder which truth this people are talking about because their truth always seems to be the truth. We don't care if you known him down to his blockus. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Somehow, you have to pay for your insensitivity.

DirewolfofStark:
I'm pretty sure the chains were not for the purpose of deportation in itself. It is more probable that he had committed a violent crime and was physically resisting attempts to deport him so they had no choice than to restrain.
Nigerians will always try to read racism into everything as if we are programmed to have a victim mentality.

Do you work with KLM or is there something you're not telling us. Yo sit comfy in your sitting room passing judgement on someone you don't know.

All she wanted was the love. Some of these people don't really intend to kill themselves. They just want that reassurance that there people that care for them.

Na as we take expect am be this. The next in line are TBoss and Bisola.

visible006:
And you are still asking me to live in
the Same Country with this kind of people....Ajii gbakwa

Are you from Egbema in Imo state?

Afroprince:
YEAH i am in the states now

Good to know.

Shelloween:
Munachi IS older than Agbani. All i know is that Munachi told us her football age.

When you look at both of them, who looks older?

Shelloween:
Munachi Abii how market?

How can you compare Agbani and Munachi. Munachi is still young when compared with Agbani. Agbani won miss world in 2001 after Priyanka Chopra. If she was 18 years then by now she should be 35 years old. Munachi should be in the mid or late 20s.

Finally, this girl don marry. Congrats to her.

Afroprince:
Guys pls i want to know if there is a ban on Arabian airlines to the US, i need to be sure before i book my flight. I heard Qatar, Egypt air, Royal Air Maroc and a lot of airlines have been banned, pls how true? A lot of gist flying thru

How can they ban airlines.

Agbgift:
Yes, today is final.

Ok. Thanks.

Pls, is today the final day?

fratermathy:
Sometimes you should think. Yorubas would say "ronu"!

She returned to Canada, got a new device, logged in with BBID, recovered messages saved on BES and Blackberry Backup. This also explains why the time is in the present.

She released her statement of account showing UBA official stamp. I hope you are aware that UBA can even lock her up immediately for that? Has UBA refuted the said document yet?

As for the BBM chat, there are two timelines here: one is from when they initially started, hence the Canadian network (Fido) showing there. The others are from when things went sour, hence the Etisalat (she was presumably in Nigeria then as her story also confirms).

The FaceTime screenshot she shared has been authenticated already so it's old news but even if it was fake, WHERE DID SHE GET HIS PICTURES FROM? I searched for Su-LAIR-man's pics online and couldn't see any that featured in the FaceTime chats and even these BBM DPs.

Even Su-LAIR-man has not denied any of these claims, he only deflected them. He's busy running from pillar to post doing media control, further making him ridiculous. He should just shut up and go to the sidelines if he doesn't want to confess YET. I emphasised "yet" because he would eventually do that whether he likes it or not.

Why am I surprised you can't piece together the puzzle? Sheep aren't known for being very bright. Even if a video is released, you guys will come out and shout that it was videoshopped! Some of you are asking for pictures of both of them together. If that is released today, you will come and say it is also photoshopped. Finally, you guys' opinion on this matter won't change the glaring facts. After all, you are the ones that also lied that Otobo went to Auchi to confess when that was also a lie! Like "apostle", like sheeple.

As for Su-LAIR-man, better go and confess your evildoings. Your media crew and defenders are only making things worse for you. Silly defences such as these reveal that they are ready to be blinded forever. Imagine him telling those who "contemplated believing" the scandal to knock themselves from "stupidity"! Later he threatened that anyone who criticises him or any pastor would have his/her life cut short. What a pastor!

If any of you sheeple dare quote/mention me to say rubbish, I will ridicule you and the man that you worship further.

I'm one of those people who see all these men of God who they really are and i pray they get exposed.

However, i'm not blind to see that a ot of people like me just want to see Apostle suleman guilty by all means even if he's not guilty. Even though i believe he is a very proud and boastful person, i've not seen any evidence that makes him guilty even in the least. All the so called facts that Stephanie Otobo has presented are things that can be made up. I now that there are people that even when they see a sex video of both of them, they will still doubt that it's Apostle Suleman that's in the video but if really Stephanie Otobo is interested in exposing the truth and not out to blackmail him, she would have released more concrete evidence like a picture of both of them together. You should have also released a video chat of both of them. That's why i'm still of the opinion that the pastor is guilty atleast for this particular offence. I'm hoping that she proves me wrong.

If the story from both sides are true then t he man is very useless.

Dirty looking girls.

It seems one of his friends owns that Naija Entertainment Videos youtube channel cos it seems they have exclusive rights to his videos.

This one na wedding abi Ohanaeze Ndigbo meeting?

I was actually expecting to see the wedding of his daughter or something. What has he been waiting for since. We Igbo men should pls start marrying early.

The logo looks like that of an American university. Cool.

mployer:
He fine pass like this for now.

He try.

She try.

Even right now, he's still a throwback. I've never seen a throwback in the present until i met Efe. After winning the money, i give him one year and we would have another throwback. Efe for the money.

Abagworo:
Afam you've suddenly joined my school of thought after years of disagreement. It seems you've now lived in South-south and mingled with the people these misinformed Igbos are forcefully adding to their map. I told them from time that only Aniocha/Oshimili in Delta State are the useful people that can make any positive impact to progress of united Igbo. The rest of these Igbo speaking tribes of whom I happen to be part of maternally can never work with Igbos.

The 2nd issue we disagree on that I want you to have a rethink is the partisanship of Igbo groups. Ndigbo are supposed to work together beyond barriers of political party.

I've has that school of thougth for some time now. Most of my arguments have always been strictly on cultural basis and not in anyway political. I know how these minorities like Ikwerre, Ika and co. Having a country with them will only spell doom for us.

On the second issue. I still don't see anything wrong in Igbos supporting whoever they so choose because i know you're referring to the the Jonathan/PDP and Buhari/APC episode. You say you don't want Igbos to be partisan but you wan them to support APC. isn't that partisanship? Atleast posterity has vindicated them.

ezeagu:
Self explanatory.

https://s16.postimg.org/vchhtna78/Alaigbo.jpg

This is nice. But it would do you a lot of good to remove anywhere in Delta and Rivers state. Let's stick with the SE.