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Happy New Year to all United fans!
May this year bring success to each of us individually and to the club we all love so much.


P.S Coog said his New Year resolution is to avoid long epistles with Elamps baba

SailorXY: Argument for me is a waste of talent
I think stating your points/back up/summary over 3 or 4 submissions does it
afterall, the guy who opposed ur points from the beginning will still stand his ground 10 pages later

Exactly.

Adnan and Young can switch from time to time during the match

ASININE YOUNG should play from the right. On that side he tends to be less predictable ( either going to the byline and crossing with his right or coming infield to link up), on the left he is usually clueless and resorts to useless in swingers.

P.S play valencia behind him.

Adnan and Evra on the left.

Carrick and Cleverley in the middle, Rooney supporting Welbeck in attack.

Smalling and Evans in central defence

While it was early morning where u were it was evening where i was when i made those posts.
U do know about time zones, earth is spherical.........remember Fedinand Magellan ?

That Berbatov is the reincarnation of Bill Sykes is not in doubt......only you doubt this.

In his best scoring season for United which was Rooney's worst scoring season he got us just ONE more point than Rooney.

Do u know why? By scoring most of his goals in a few matches against relegation bound and relegation threatened teams.

Even for Spurs half of his goals in Europe came against teams that use slate when they are making substitutions

coogar: where was your reply when i destroyed your argument with this post in october? you ran away timidly with your tail stuck between your legs.....




i showed you 29 of ronaldo's 34 league goals were scored against shyte teams. that should be an indictment against him as a flat track bully.



if we break it down to facts & figures, you would lose. like i told you earlier, berbatov did not play a large chunk of the so-called big games. the accusation of him being a flat track bully is utterly misplaced....

by your logic, (chelsea + city + arsenal) were the top teams in 2010/11. berbatov started only 1 game out of the 6 league games available to him against these top teams. in raw stats, berbatov played only 128 league minutes in 540 mins against top teams in the season he was the top scorer in england.

against the bottom sides(blackpool + birmingham + west ham), berbatov started 5 out of the 6 league games available - in raw stats, dimitar copped 450 mins out of the 540 league minutes available. he scored 8 league goals against these teams but that was because he was in the starting line up 5 times against them.

my deductive reasoning tells me, for a striker to score goals in any game(tough or easy fixture), he must be played first & foremost. this is why people like you should stay away from interpreting statistics. it requires an astronomical level of intelligence quotient.

similarly, in 11/12....(city + arsenal + spurs) were the top teams in the premier league according to your logic. berbatov did not even kick a ball against any of these teams. that's 0 minutes in the 540 league minutes available. surely, only a disillusioned & a deluded fan like yourself would expect him to score like his counterparts while his bütt was planted on the bench by SAF.



the fact remains - berbatov plays an atrocious low number of minutes against top teams than his peers in the premier league. only a complete tool would then expect berbatov to match the scoring records of rooney, RVP, suarez, etc when statistics showed he copped only 128 minutes in 1080 league minutes(12% match-minute appearance) available to him against top sides in 10/11 & 11/12.

I do not live on Nairaland and neither do i live to win arguments on Nairaland. And once arguments get toooo extended i just log off and go on with my life offline.
So the fact that i did not respond to you should not give you the delusion that i ran away..... i was just busy doing something else that benefited me.

Berbatov is a flat track bully. His record with Spurs where he played more minutes support this fact. In Europe most of his goals are against Eastern European teams that still use monkey post and use charcoal to write on their score board

Suarez scored 6 goals against the top 6 teams last season. He scored 4 goals(17 % of all his goals) against the top 4 teams in the league that season
He scored against all the teams above Liverpool except United.

When you consider that Berbatov scored ONLY 6 goals ( IN SEVEN SEASONS) against a team good enough to finish in the top 4 and Suarez has scored a top 4 team the same 6 goals in 3 seasons then you can decide for yourself who is flat track

meanwhile last season Suarez scored against Man City, Everton, Chlesea(twice) , Arsenal, Spurs.......not sure u can call him flat track

RuuDie: [b]If [/b]Berba was a FTB... so also is Suarez for now. Simple!

IF?
U mean SINCE

coogar: it was done & dusted only after i destroyed your claim that he's a flat track bully. berbatov didn't start plenty of the big games against top teams in man utd. i analysed his number of minutes against top teams & his involvement was less than 20%. players on the bench cannot score goals, can they?

suarez(according to your logic) is a flat track bully. don't run away from the logic you & elampiro cooked up in your laboratory. don't wait 2-3 seasons to declare him a flat track bully. berbatov became one on the back of one season(10/11).

You are a recidivist, i won't indulge you

Purist: lol... when I first saw this stat a couple of days ago, I remembered the Berbatov argument on this thread. So guys, is it too early to conclude that Suarez is a flat track bully as well? Or do we wait till the end of the season?

That Berbatov argument was a nice one but its done and dusted.
We were able to CONCLUSIVELY prove that Berbatov is the Bill Sykes of flat track bullies. It is hard to find another top striker who scores such an inordinate percentage of his goals against relegation bound teams.
Its too early to classify Suarez, but i must say those stats if true are not looking good. However Berbatov's stats were over multiple seasons so lets see Suarez' stats over 2 ,3 seasons then we can talk.

let me start ironing my clothes.
na d same aso ebi from last time i go still wear, i no send anybody

welbeck has 17 league goals in 78 matches for United. We all know he has to improve on his finishing but please remember he frequently plays on the wing.
When one considers that Torres has the same 17 league goals in 95 matches for Chelsea as their main striker one should just count small blessings

welbeck's 8 goals in 20 matches is pretty decent for a man who rarely plays as the main striker

giggs needs to be off at half time and bring adnan or welbeck on

why is kagawa playing on the left with rooney out?

elampiro: If it was not Ogbeche who held his hand from posting, it should be British police hiding him for over blogging. Otherwise, he is in his real village for Christmas and there is no network. The kind of village where people still wear leaves. Lol

Elamps baba abeg i no understand wetin you dey talk o, are you insinuating that Coog is from Koma village?

Wetin dat one come mean na? Me sef go fight you on him behalf o

dademola: my hand nor dey oo

Bros na the advice wey you and elamps baba give i just dey follow na.
Just trying to smoke the guy out, no way he go see all these things wey boys dey talk for him back make e no vex come fire people online here.......that is everybody but tapout LOL
the fight between them na 1-1 goalless draw

You guys should know that Vet Doctor Clement Njoku aka Coogar the Lion aka I hate Rooney is in charge of feeding for all the Christmas goats and chickens in Wales
The guy is very very busy as we speak

dademola: carrick has been outta action for a while! Hw can u add carrick to dt list?? D fact dt u like jones in mF doesnt mean it shud be at d expense of carrick! Get it; jones IS NOT A MIDFIELDA!!!!

lolllzzz see vex!

well hopefully with rafael injured and the valencia suspended fabio will get some time on the pitch, pls no smalling to RB pls

dayokanu: Januzaj role model is Ashley Young

His diving style is very similar

https://i.minus.com/iIB9WaCiDexoC.gif

thank you

Leyqute: Abeg lets discuss Man Utd stuffs. Jzj says his role models are Zidane n Kaka.
No wonder his style of play is similar with Kaka's. He's got talents, I think he's going places.

I believe so too. Once he is lucky to avoid injuries and has good mentoring the sky is his limit.

dayokanu: As long as Kompany is excluded from the defence Man City has a better chance of keeping clean sheets

8 EPL games with Kompany starting City conceded 13 goals

9 EPL games without Kompany at all City conceded 7 goals

Do the Maths

That Maths implies that there are some defenders better than Kompany in the City squad, debatable but another argument.
The Maths of the whoscored direct comparison between Kompany and Boateng SHOWS that Kompany is the better defender

I think you are very right.
City should be playing Lescott and Demichelis from now on, i as a United fan would not mind that one bit

dayokanu: How come without Kompany these 4 men know how to keep clean sheets but the moment he steps on there No clean sheet

The same reason Manchester United never loses when Welbeck scores and the same reason Spurs did not win in Gareth Bale's first gazillion matches

dayokanu: Maybe when you look at the different component you would see that Boateng bosses Kompany in key aspect of a defenders game which include tackle, clearances

What brought down Boatengs total was his professional foul red card vs City where he got a 5.8. The foul which every coach would laud him for

Fact is in the EPl with Kompany Man City rarely have a clean sheet which is an indictment on him

Boateng makes more tackles and commits more fouls than Kompany cos he is not smart enough to position himself properly.

Kompany's superior intelligence and positioning is evident from his superior stats in interceptions and offsides won

dayokanu: Maybe when you look at the different component you would see that Boateng bosses Kompany in key aspect of a defenders game which include tackle, clearances

What brought down Boatengs total was his professional foul red card vs City where he got a 5.8. The foul which every coach would laud him for

Fact is in the EPl with Kompany Man City rarely have a clean sheet which is an indictment on him

you are very correct, i forgot that Kompany was 4 men...... after all he is a COMPANY

Well according to whoscored.com in the champion's league Kompany has been better than Boateng, and this has been a poor season for Kompany going by his usual standards.

OVERALL PLAYER RATING..........Kompany 7.15 Boateng 6.74

tackle per game ....................Kompany 1.5 Boateng 1.8

interceptions/game................ Kompany 3.5 Boateng 2.3

fouls per game.......................Kompany 0.5 Boateng 0.8

offsides won.........................Kompany 2.5 Boateng 1.2

clearances/game...................Kompany 3 Boateng 4.5

Rooney did very well today and was crucial to our control of the midfield, however needs to improve his short passing....especially through passes.
Too many red lines in and around the opposition 18 yard box

coded guy: You guys will understand when we meet a top team in europe, Bayern, Madrid, Barca.

We can't afford to play this way. Its just that I agree to many bad result that's why [b]anyhow [/b]we get 3points is welcomed.

this is not an anyhow victory. it was a well deserved victory and the boys played very well.
we should not become negative and criticize all the time.
p.s nobody is saying we are at the level we should be playing at yet, however this was an encouraging display