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u r even more confused! divide myhills minutes played by his number of clean sheets to get his minutes per clean sheet.exactly d way u divided for cech and de gea .wat do u come up with? Now do the same for robert green and al habsi. It should be clear even to u by now.

Lol u r so disingenuous! Ur point was the higher d minutes per clean sheet d better d keeper hence de gea better than cech while my point is the lower d minutes per clean sheet d better d keeper.so from your table calculate the minutes per clean sheet of boaz myhill and robert green and compare it to that of cech and de gea

Fabville: You are the one getting it wrong. There is nothing wrong in what he has computed up there. The longer the minutes per clean sheet the better.

If a goalkeeper jeeps a clean sheet for 120 mins and another keeps for 130 mins. Which is better? It is obviuos that it is the one that keeps it for 130 mins.

u r d one getting it way wrong.pls study d stats table given.it is not minutes of clean sheet but minutes per clean sheet. There is a difference.it is not how many minutes of clean sheet d keeper has that is meant here but How many minutes a keeper has to keep before he gets one clean sheet.that's y u see cech,de gea nd joe hart having some of d lowest in the entire league(it takes dem less minutes to get a clean sheet than d other keepers) .I explained very clearly in an earlier post.the keepers that kept just 1 or 2 clean sheets have way higher numbers than cech,de gea or even hart (check myhill,robles etc.

Looooool u have moved to a new stat now (one that appears to favour ur side of d debate).lmao. Well I wasn't arguing wit u on who is better.just wanted to point out d error in d conclusion u made from d 1st stat. D stat on minutes per clean sheet says cech is better. D stat on clean sheets as percentage of matches says de gea is better.

Cmon u know dt was just an example ,I believe u understand wt I am driving at. Ok let's say d keeper X has 30 clean sheets in 3000mins making the average 100 mins per clean sheet would u rate de gea ahead of dt keeper based on those stats? Analyse ur stats carefully nd understand them.d stats u highlighted show dt in terms of clean sheets cech is better than de gea

coogar: you think you do, but you don't.....



even your petr cech voted de gea as the best goalkeeper he's seen in his lifetime.



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the math is simple - the only reason cech had more clean sheets than de gea is because cech played more minutes. if you compute the number of clean sheets per minute, de gea wins by a distance.

cech - 3195/14 = 228.2 mins

de gea - 2250/11 = 229.1 mins.

de gea has a full minute over cech. cech concedes goals quicker than de gea. that there is the difference between the 2 goalkeepers.

. Err coogar u actually didn't interprete that stat d right way.wat it explains is how many minutes it takes to get a clean sheet I.e MINUTES PER CLEAN SHEET so d lower d figure the better(meaning cech is better in dis stat).to explain u see rob elliot wit 1 clean sheet in 834mins and myhill wit 1 clean sheet in 720mins meanind their numbers according to ur equation are 834 and 720 respectively! Dt shud make it obvious that d lower d figure d better d stat for d keeper.for example keeper X with 50 clean sheets in 3000mins will end up with a figure of 60

elampiro: Moyes already indicated this. When asked about Thiago before Bayern signed him, Moyes said he has never said Thiago was a target. I guess United knew where they were going from day one. I hope we land Fabregas, then we find who next to 'attack' in the transfer market.

if they were so sure of who their target was they should have gone for fabregas earlier(before thiago left for bayern)
it would be foolish of barca to let BOTH thiago and fabregas go in the same transfer window,i really don't see it happening.

paulinho just moved to spurs and dembele n cabaye are both CM types so i dont think getting both would be a good option.dont think cabaye is of the quakity we want and i dont see spurs selling dembele for less than crazy money.
we need a CM with some dynamism,skill,passing and vision e.g fabregas,MODRIC etc and a DM who is a useful passer of the ball e.g ......?

a 3rd bid for fabregas being prepared? now this is getting embarrassing.if this is rejected as well we better look elsewhere.the only thing giving me a glimmer of hope is that fabregas has not come out to publicly repudiate the move

dayokanu: Gustavo currently is still better than every Man Utd midfielder

is it cos he plays for ur club or just because he plays in ur beloved german league? dayo i am not surprised.in ur opinion Goethe is better than Shakespeare(as a playwright),Luftwaffe greater than RAF,Rommel greater than Monty.in the United system i cant see Gustavo performing better than Carrick

hopefully not to chelsea.a revitalized rooney under mourinho with all the other good players in chelsea is not a nice thought.i would prefer we kept him,but if we want to sell him sell to arsenal,psg,monaco etc

gustavo is an okay player than complements a good team,he is not the player you want when you want the team to step to the next level

coded guy: Two midfielders is what we need, A fab and fellaini will be OK. Just that they reject our offer the way we are rejecting chelsea.

Song will not be bad addition too.

Chai see as guys just dey drop names based on speculation, don't we have a proudlybollocks who claims to have inside news?

Its looking like baba Giggs will get quite a lot of playing time this season if we fail to buy anybody coupled with his player/coach status he will influence his selection Lol.

I agree with you.2 midfielders
1st one more of a central midfielder like fabregas,modric,dembele etc
2nd one more of a defensive midfielder.and that is where i disagree with people who want fellaini in that position.his
indiscipline and inconsistent passing will make him a liability in that position( box to box yes,but DM no)

spurs are overloaded but the deadweight are more likely to be tom huddlestone,scott parker,lewis holtby or carroll than dembele who was one of their best performers last season.going for dembele would be either too expensive or more likely a waste of time. daniel levy is like jean michel aulas he squeezes the last drop out of a deal,the easiest quality target in my opinion is Modric at RM.

chrisley024: I see Fellaini as the last bus stop after all these smokes n mirrors.

i am starting to get the same feeling too.i am not really a fellaini fan but it seems the signs are pointing in his direction:
1)he is a midfielder with EPL experience
2)he is a player the new manager has worked it and likes
3)Everton is a smaller club less likely to reject United's advances
I have always been an admirer of Modric and would prefer a Modric or Fabregas AND a more physical midfielder beside him.

dembele alone will cost north of 20 million pounds.spurs bought him from fulham just a season ago for 15million pounds and he still has years left on his contract.when u factor in that daniel levy is a modern day akubuzo you know it will be a protracted and expensive process.

what about modric,fellaini?

debosky: Which kain yeye significant authority? how many titles has he won? SAF had authority because of his achievements, which DM still has to build up.

Moyes is still a learner and will have to choose his words carefully. Why state RVP as undisputed no 1 without even seeing him train? JM was wiser - he said everyone must fight for a starting place. Saying that would've eliminated some of the so called press fuss. Whether you like it or not, you don't speak that way about a player you're paying 250k/week. You manage things better.

i concur.surely moyes had to know his choice of words wasnt the best possible especially given the situation on ground with rooney already.and there was no need stating RVP was no1 even if that might be true,in certain cases it is best to keep your own counsel.

she needs to come to my hospital for a COMPREHENSIVE "medical" before she is allowed into the nigerian music scene

doesn't make sense for fabregas to leave barcelona both for fabregas and for the club.
the club needs strength in depth and he is some one that can solve several problems for them in central midfield,attacking midfield and even in attack.
fabregas has no reason to leave cos xavi is getting on in age and after all fabregas started more league matches than xavi or iniesta last season.he was also near the top in terms of goals,assists and pass completion for the club.

nitlad: Pissing in everyone's nostrils at Under 21? When Illarra dey beast the midfield against Barca in La Liga, making dem Xavi look like mortals, wey Thiago bin dey?


Even Chrisantus show imm logo for Under level. Ayew gan reign for Under - That is as far as it goes. Under, strictly Under. The real deals are those rubbing it with the high and mighty, not some competition organised to keep juveniles off the street and jails.

LWKMD.But in all honesty it looks like Thiago's skill set would translate very well into the senior game.he is not bigger,stronger or faster at under 21 level,he is just better

add pogba,kondogbia etc

see roforofo lol.
@ nitlad i no forget ilaramendi o,just that they r too many to mention.like i said earlier a very good generation of young gifted midfileders.i saw a few in the just concluded under 20 world cup in turkey(quintero at 20yrs and de arascaeta at 19yrs).rily good footballers

dayokanu: No one would pay a premium for "Puri" and "Egun Ori" football, You can pay 20,000 for Tresor Mputu, Lokondo Mpenza or Taiye Taiwo to give you that.

Wilshere is just another hype of the English media. Like Ramsey.

We have weeded out a lot of mediocres like Pranjic, Tymoschuk etc. Gustavo would also have his use especially in games we need to destroy a silky 10 like Ozil.

Man Utd can tempt someone from Madrid. Ozil, Modric, Kaka, Isco, Ilarramendi, Di Maria. Someone might leave

And dont worry about what some ppl call leftovers or unwanted players. Robben , Sneijder etc have been called that and won the CL before the stars that replaced them at Madrid

haa ramsey na player? abeg how ebute meta take resemble nantucket? pls oo
i know the brits hype their players however wilshere has better close control than d average english player and actually is a pretty decent passer wit good vision

[quote author=A-40]What's happening with Utd tho? I remember when most of us had more or less assumed Thiago was Old Trafford bound. Its either Moyes is ok with the present squad or there isn't that much money to spend


Gundogan,Isco,Thiago and Wilshere over Kroos?? That's a pretty curious choice I don't think any of these ninjas are as good as Kroos. Barring favoritism I don't think Thiago is a walk-on to that team but let's see how it goes[/quote]that list is a tough one to rank i accept.i wont rily argue either way this is one of the best crops of young midfielders football has been blessed with BUT i think Gotze and Thiago are the best of the lot.
for thiago u cant bar favoritism cos we r all human and remember that promises have already been made concerning his chances of making next year's world cup

enjoy na ur time

dayokanu: Wilshere lacks the silky touches of the rest . He plays more with "agidi" and what we call "Egun-ori" Gundogan is more silky with his touches

Kroos has always been challenged for his spot and comes tops. Last yr if not for his injury vs Juve Roben might never see the field

LMAO at agidi and egun-ori.point well taken and i agree that wilshere is less silky but sometimes agidi pays.
kroos wasnt competing with players like gotze and thiago who are both younger and most likely better than him.
the bayern midfield now is much better than 3yrs ago. it is that midfield MINUS some poor outsiders PLUS gustavo,javi martinez,gotze and thiago

aaahhh daniel nardiello! LOL.
i agree with u.he is one for d future though wit d right coaching and management.

yeah i was really impressed.he is one for d future,however there might be some problems finding his best position.he is not a winger in my opinion and better in attacking midfield with 2 minders behind him

no cause for alarm yet but if strootman signs for roma,modric extends with madrid,fellaini goes to arsenal,bale goes to madrid .....u get d drift? i might push panic button o

LOL i knew u would rate Wilshere last.
i would say Gotze,Thiago,Oscar,Isco,Wilshere,Gundogan and Kroos.
Kroos last cos i believe his progress will slow down at Bayern now wit all d competition for places.
Gundogan and Wilshere r quite similar but one is a bit more dynamic than d other.

let me start fasting and praying for Strootman and Modric.i have been asking for Modric for 2 yrs now