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odizeey:
Give Amass, Obi and Collyer consistent minutes.

If you want to protect them from the useless players, don't bring them in at all.

Even Collyer that has been injured for some time now should get minutes?

Obi turned 17 during this season. How many strikers of his age are getting consistent minutes in a top league in Europe. Even then i am with you that Obi should get more minutes.

Amass has played in 3 of our last 4 games.

odizeey:
The club has a history using young players and they are trying to boost that record, that's why you see academy players coming in at useless times.

You expect to see them next game to build the momentum, and boom, you won't see them anymore till God knows when.

Football is evolving. At 17 up, you should be ready to be thrown into battle.

Very well said.

So let us start from Liverpool and go down the league table one by one. Let us see how many 17yr olds were thrown into battle and how many minutes they played?

raumdeuter:
Does Carling cup appearances count? like for Jacob Wright, Kaden Braithwaite and Jahmal Simpson Pusey

Yes.

Let us add all the minutes. As long it was in the period since Amorim got here.

After we finish with Man City we can move to Liverpool. Let us see how they are not protecting their teenagers. We will go through the league today.

We gonna learn something today.

delkuf:
James mactee. Lewis and O'Reilly. And he used some fringe players in fa cup matches

Hehehehe. You don't know what you are saying. James McAtee is going to turn 23 this year.

McAtee was dominating the Under-18 premier league BEFORE we even got Garnacho from Spain. Imagine calling McAtee a teenager. LMAO.

McAtee a player 2 sets ahead of Garnacho is still slowly getting introduced into the Man City senior team while Man Utd fans have already begged for Garnacho to be introduced by fire, fallen in love with him, fallen out of love, and now cursing him on a daily basis.

Rico Lewis turned 20 within 3 months into the season. I wonder how many minutes he played as a teenager. Rico Lewis is 3 sets older than Amass and very highly rated and is still being introduced into the senior team but if Amass does not play every match for us we are protecting him.

I will give you Nico O'Reilly (even though he has turned 20 already).

So apart from the 22yr old teenager and the two 20 yr old teenagers, who are the other teenagers that Pep has used this season.

superfelix:
Pep has used just two and they're currently even 20yrs old. Lewis and O'Reilly (just 7 apps in the league). Man Utd on the other hand have used Heaven, Amass, Mainoo (turned 20 few days ago), Yoro (although not from the academy) and Obi

Haba. I wanted him to answer first now. I don't like people like you that give expo in exams just because you sabi book. I want him to list the numerous teenagers Pep has used this season and compare the number to ours, and their minutes played to ours.

odizeey:
Chido not being ready, my question is to the person who says he's not ready.

We are in a state where we need these academy players to play more. Our first team players are either useless or injured.

You'll introduce an academy player and he turns up but in the next game you won't play him to build up.

See how arsenal are using MLS and Nwaneri?

This is the crux of the matter. You want us to use these academy players not because they are ready or not but because the senior players are useless.

It is better for you guys to go and beg the great senior players to start playing great football, instead of trying to wreck the future of innocent children.

We play more teenagers and give them more minutes than most other clubs and you are claiming we over protect them. LOL.

delkuf:
do you know how teenager pep have use this season.

If someone like yamal is at man u, his career would be in jeopardy by now. Amorim will not even send him

List the teenagers Pep has used this season and how many minutes they have played individually and collectively.

odizeey:
Sincerely.

The guy tries. You can see he plays well. I'm not sure he's played a full match.

I don't know the not ready they are talking about.

Na only our academy players no dey ever ready.

Protect them. Protect them. All the ones they protected, where them dey?🤣

Name 3 clubs that have given more minutes to teenagers than us this season.

After that name 3 clubs that gave more minutes to teenagers last season.

diggz:
You too much Semid! I go ask my Oga at the top Raumdeuter to do giveaway with one Luxury car worth N15milla.

You are incorrigible.

This guy no use Amass sha. FPL points lazzident.

Bring Amass and Obi on.

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Maguire.
SMH X 3.

CapitalCee:
We need to improve on Onana, any well deserved taken shot on target is a goal.

Apart from the shot itself, he was the one who put us under pressure from our own free kick by holding on to the ball and then passing it to a defender under pressure.

maik99:
Don't these players train? Apart from being dominated physically almost always, their passes are always to the wrong foot, cant dribble past opponents. Little technical details that add up and make the difference

Is it possible that pro players are this bad

Not just pro players. Great pro players.

patrickmuf:
Exactly...He should be quick with the substitution come the second half of proceedings.

100%.

From our own free kick.

Bruno should move to CM and Mainoo should move to the left 10.

delkuf:
I was part of those that wanted us to sign him but I don't seem to know his ideology. I believe in development. I believe that of using millions of dollars to buy players we should look into the academy. Look at dorgu. Since he was bought no impart

Don't we have players in the academy to play dorgu role. But we went ahead to sign him. Amorim doesn't know what he is doing

What exactly are you saying? Is it that we should not buy players again and only use the academy?

The fact that we signed Dorgu does not mean we don't trust the academy. There is no academy LWB who is guaranteed to be ready for regular first team football for maybe 1-2 years. Or do you want us to play with no LWB until maybe Amass/Mantato mature into better players in 2027 OR do you want us to rely on Amass week in week out before he is ready like we did Garnacho, so that fans can turn on him when he makes the inevitable mistakes?

Dorgu not doing well is an indictment on our player ID and scouting. It has nothing to do with not trusting the academy.

None of Amass's age mates in the England youth set up is a starter for their club.

patrickmuf:
Amorim is very funny. Why play your best available team for a dead rubber game?

It is a tough one but i would have liked him to rest Hojlund, Bruno, Casemiro, Maguire. We need that spine to be on point against Athletic Bilbao.

Many people who are desperate for the senior team to succeed just want the manager to toss youth players into the senior team, and do not care whether the youth is physically or emotionally ready for the promotion or not.

Exposing a youth player who is not ready for it might interfere with his development either as a player or as a human being. In most cases, the coaches are right to hold back for reasons we might not be aware of, especially coaches with track record of promoting youth like Amorim.

delkuf:
this coach doesn't believe in young players.

Factually untrue. The evidence just does not support your statement.

He was at Sporting Lisbon for 4.5 years and in that period 23 academy graduates made the move to the senior team. In his 5 months here 5 teenagers have made their debuts, 3 of which came through the academy.

With more time we will see if he believes in youths or not but for now it is still too early to castigate him.

Kamason didn't even make the bench. Must be injured.

On the other hand, this line up might actually be the one that will face Atletico this Thursday. This might be a test run.

Amorim should just pull out Casemiro, Maz and Shaw on time please.

diggz:
Bros comot hand from post renovation you no be Dayo or onanuga

Voltron things.

Wow that was some epically quick digging.

GloriousGbola:
Oga I know you have your list
Drop it and stop teasing

CapitalCee:
Honestly, I dont trust Shaw in that Back 3, he spreads panic in that backline. I will prefer Lindelof instead of Shaw. He can cone in Later. We lost our shape versus Lyon because of Shaw.
I just hope that Deligt will be fully fit for the second leg. So that we will have a back line of Deligt, Maguire and Yoro.

The problem is Lindelof is best as CCB because he has lost his pace. That also happens to be Maguire’s best position.

Shaw is actually tailor-made to be LCB in this formation. He is a better flank defender than Lindelof and is also a competent CB based on what happened when he deputised for Martinez.

What happened against Lyon was more due to him being not yet match fit than anything else. If he is fully fit now with 2 more weeks of training, a Yoro, Maguire, Shaw defence with Maz RWB and Dorgu LWB gives us the best balance.

The question is, how fit is he now?

raumdeuter:
See wicked doctor unleashed assistant manager on me

Shebi doctors are expected to be merciful and show kindness unlike that afrodoc

If kangaroo begin chase you, know say na me send am

I am doing you a favor. You might not understand now but you will thank me later.

Kamason likely to make his debut tomorrow. Beneficiary of Dalot’s injury.

Under-18 are fumbling the season away.

diggz:
People like him don’t learn until the worst eventually happens. May god save all men from t0t0business wey go stress or destroy us.

Amen. 🙏