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KingTom:
Well like Ibime said he should have gone the Gay-Z route... as an African American you're already 2-0 down and as an ex athlete? Come on man na the love for young pink toe kitten kill am sha he died doing what he loved

It is a low-down dirty shame.

GloriousGbola:
Wetin the man dey find knacking small geh with nothing to lose. In this day and age where any small thing they will wash your dirty linen in public for 15 mins of internet clout.

Same way that thot messed dangote up. Mature discreet women who will fk your brains out dey you dey look for Smalley

Stupid man

The guy mess up. I watched one interview when someone said he should look for a good woman to be with, the guy said no that he wants a bad woman.

E be like say the gods granted him his wish.

diggz:
Haha…..people no dey ever learn…especially that guy. I no pity am sha.

It is unfortunate. The guy is really good at what he does and was about to come into big money. E pain me i no go lie.

Shannon Sharpe fumble generational wealth because of totolitarianism.

CapitalCee:
I have pointed this out before, there are players we need to protect. There was no need playing him in that Wolves game.

Maguire, Deligt, Mazraoui, Casemiro, Bruno, Yoro and Dalot before his injury. These are our most strategically most important players.
Playing Dorgu and Amass is very risky they are too inexperienced. We just need to fast track the return of Deligt, So that we can play Maz as RWB and Dorgu as LWB. Amass, Lindelof and Shaw can come in later to see out games. OR. Shaw can start as LWB, play for 60/65 mins, then bring in Amass to see out the game.
Then in the return leg we hope Amad returns to play RWB.

If Shaw plays LWB for even 10 minutes he will be injured for at least 6 months. I think it will be Maz and Dorgu as WBs and Yoro, Maguire, Shaw at the back.

P.S I assume we are talking about the Bilbao 1st leg.

CapitalCee:
The Injury to Dalot is a big blow I must confess

He had already played the most minutes of any player for us this season before playing 120 minutes against Lyon. It made the most sense to rest him completely against Wolves, but we don't usually make sensible decisions.

His injury is a calf muscle injury, which is usually due to work overload.

The options are either to play Maz RWB and Dorgu LWB or play Dorgu RWB and Amass LWB.

Unc fumbled the bag.

May the gods save men from totolitarianism.

raumdeuter:
You wey allow Alhaji Gloriousgbola to confuse you an stop you from investing in mentorship, na una lose

😂😂😂

This guy na pro. E don master the format.
Only that the fee too steep, we for get another CBEX scenario on our hands.

Dalot injured. Out for some weeks at least. They should have just rested him completely for that Wolves game.

larride:
Betis ain’t dropping 50m for any player.

Hehehe.

Oasis is the most optimistic poster on this forum. I wish i could be like him.

Roland17:
Unc made a lot of rookie mistakes especially when you consider his level of exposure and experience. It was only recently that he streamed a live session on instagram while claiming it was a hack.

Sharpe released text messages between both as evidence and it shows it was consensual to a large extent. Now, I am unsure what she has that will prove otherwise.

I expected an OG like Unc to be smarter in managing interactions like these. She wanted a child with him and I don’t think Unc was interested in that.

Unc was thinking with his little head and not his big head.

That livestream was weird. Unc should slow down. I think his new wave stardom and money has made him to lose a bit of street composure.

Unlimited22:
afrodoc/afrodoc2 my boss

Albanese or Dutton?

Hehehe. I initially thought you were talking about a movie/TV series. I forgot

It is like they might have to fine me again this time.

I don't believe in any government/politician promise or pledge.

nitrogen:
At this point, you are doing this to win an argument. I can’t help so I will skip. Next question!

Ok. Next question

Great players under good coaches can have a bad game, or a bad month, or in rare cases a bad season.

How is it possible that season after season a combination of good coaches and great players keep giving us rubbish football for a whole decade?

Terms apply i.e. you can still call a friend or ask the audience.

nitrogen:
Lol. Thanks for digging up the exhibits. E plenty like water in case you want more. However, they don’t negate my point which is Man Utd mostly signed good players and managers with the fans always very excited about the hires. ETH, Mou, LVG, Amorim were/are good managers, and me asking them to be sacked after a few months or years of underperformance does not negate the fact that they were among the best at the time they joined us. Same with about 70% of the players signed.

Before we go ahead.

Are the coaches frauds or good coaches?

Final answer.

You can call a friend or ask the audience.

Leyqute:
He never ceases to amaze. That’s why he’s dribbled himself into a cul-de-sac.

The “right mix” of physical and technical players we’ve bought in the last decade, coupled with the good coaches we’ve hired have never been anywhere close to winning the EPL or UCL.

E no shock you?

According to him. The coaches are good, the players are great, and the players are the right mix. Yet, the football is perpetually crap.

No be juju be that?

The guy dribbled himself into one corner. Hehehe.

nitrogen:
Loool. Issokay. Not like these managers are bad. They just did not make things work at UTD. Btw, you conveniently excluded Van Gaal and Mou. We go dey alright.

I listed the last 3 coaches. You can add Van Gaal, Mou, and Moyes if you wish.

Dan Gore trained with the first team today. Hopefully his injury woes are over. Might be another player to feature over the next few EPL games.

Leyqute:
Why are you stressing yourself?

When i read that part i just looked at the screen modafukaly.

nitrobobo will say ANYTHING to defend those people. ANYTHING. Imagine now calling Ole, ETH, and Amorim good coaches. Just so it won't be said that the board has been appointing frauds.

raumdeuter:
And who are the Northern leaders in Obi corner that will push his candidacy to the Northerner?

Tinubu and APC have sitting governors. Atiku and PDP have sitting governors plus he is the son of the soil

The only way to unseat Tinubu is the alliance of Atiku and Obi forces. Any other thing we are just wasting time

You don't unseat a sitting govt by fragmenting your votes, you only remove a sitting govt through alliance

This is the point where it is only decent and brotherly to remind people to buy maps and calculators.

Wishful thinking does not win elections o.

CapitalCee:
The stupidity in the Idea of ignoring a world class striker like Osihmen and buy this Delap is an insult to the club. If we are going to buy Cunha, we must add Osihmen and another quality midfielder. This INEOS guy knew he has not money to run a club like Man United yet he went ahead to acquire a stake. This club is finished

You just dey clock am?

CapitalCee:
The club is now looking to buy Delap, a bang average English 22 year old striker who scored 12 goals for Bottom side Ipswich. When Osihmen is available.

From what i heard the club can't afford to buy both Osimhen and Cunha and it seems they have prioritized Cunha, hence the need to get a cheaper alternative in Delap.

The dividends of wasting 200m pounds on Mount, Hojlund, Antony have started to pay off.

In the desperation to defend the board nitrogen actually stated that the club has been appointing good coaches, but things just did not work out.

The same coaches he comes here to call frauds every Eke market day.

nitrogen:
It’s insane. Ugarte is a destroyer. We know he is not too technical but we wanted a DM that is quite physical while the CMs and AMs do their technical stuff. Now our fans are beginning to question his acquisition. We want the full package. How many ‘full package’ DMs exist then and today?

I am not beginning to question anything. I questioned it from the start.

No top club has a starting CDM so inept on the ball.

We are not asking for aliens as you called them. We are just asking for players that are fairly balanced in a way that they are not complete liabilities in a particular facet of the game. Even if they are just above average in their weak area and superb elsewhere it is okay. Not the one where a player is a total liability in speed and another is a total weakling in duels.

Look at Newcastle's midfield. No slow poison like Casemiro there. No weakling like Eriksen there. No grenade controller like Ugarte there.
Aston Villa has similar players. Liverpool has similar placers. Arsenal, for the most part, has similar players. That is the profile we should be going for. Decent speed, technique, strength in one player. Those clubs did not buy aliens; in case you were wondering.

nitrogen:
Wow, so Matic was not one of the leading midfielders at some point in the EPL? Herrera was a very good player as well. I don’t know what your definition of great and good is. I am not saying the best or greatest o. Just go and meet Elon to take you to Mars so you can sign Aliens for Man Utd.

Whatever they did before coming here does not matter. Why not go and sign Alan Shearer because he was once great.
Casemiro is one of the greatest CDMs of the modern era. Would you say he has been a great player for us?

Hehehe. Goal post has started to shift. Herrera is now very good. Not great.

You say the coaches were good and the players were great BUT the team keeps on churning out average to poor performances. Year after year. For a decade.

How now?

Matic and Herrera were great players?

nitrogen:
Oh my! I mentioned Yamal out of the blues given he is arguably the best young player today. Now I know what’s going on.

Regarding the players bought over the years, I believe it has been the right mix of technicality and physicality. You can’t have the best of both worlds. We’ve had a good mix of technical and physical attackers, midfielders and defenders over the last 10 years, no?

If we had not spent the huge funds for player acquisitions, fans would still have complained that we did not spend like Chelsea and City who were our competition. Where do you want to see top or even average player to buy for 10-30m? Including 10 years ago. Also, the funds would have gone to other things.

I made ref to managers because you said the excuse that these players were doing well previously also applies to manager signings. Yes it is true, and I am telling you that they got good managers (same way they got good players), it just did not work in some instances and the reasonable thing that should and would always happen is to sack the manager vs a group of relatively new players given the economic and financial consequences.

1) I mentioned Yamal and then a few minutes you mentioned Yamal out of the blues. Hehehe. Ok o.

2) We have not bought the right mix of technical and physical players. What clubs are doing now is that they are buying players who individually have good levels of physicality and technicality (in one person). Players like Tonali, Rice, Rodri, Isak etc. Players that individually tick the box in terms of both physical and technical aspects of the game. Every player is able to cope for himself, and no player is profoundly found wanting in a particular aspect.

What we are doing , on the other hand, is we buy one player with high technicality and close to zero physicality (Eriksen), buy another player with high physicality and close to zero technicality (AWB), another player with technicality and but short and slow (Martinez), buy another player with physicality and low technicality (Ugarte), buy another player with positioning and strength but no speed (Casemiro), buy another player with height and strength but no speed (Maguire), and so on and so forth. That is we are always looking for one player to come to unlock another player. Pogba is lazy so he needs a hard worker beside him. Casemiro can't run so he needs a mobile runner beside him. Ugarte can't pass so he needs someone who can pass beside him.

You look at this motley mob of misfits and you think we have the right mix?

3) I did not say we should spend the funds but that we should do it on the right quality players. Or what is so difficult to understand about this. Or do you because you have 4 billion naira just go and spend on a 3-bedroom bungalow so that people won't say you didn't spend money?

50m on AWB that no other club was going to do. 80m on Maguire. 80m on freedom fighter, 80m on Antony, 70m on Hojlund. How can you with a clear conscience defend this level of transfer mishits back-to-back-to-back.
If we keep overpaying for players that are not even good enough in the first place, a time will come that either FFP or profit and loss will catch up to us and we will not even be able to improve the squad properly even with the right scouts in place.

Wait o. Are you arguing that there is no consequence to overpaying for mediocre players or what? Even there is consequence and negative to overpaying for great players not to talk of the likes of AWB and Antony.

In what world was AWB a 50m pound player? In what world is Antony an 80m pound player? Money is being steadily wasted thereby handicapping us in future windows and you are saying it does not matter.

nitrogen:
Question is did they on average buy good/better players over the years or not? Whether the prices make sense or not would depend on perspectives, not forgetting the level of desperation from top to bottom to return to glory days. We can argue price vs valuation from today till tomorrow, but the main point is at the time of purchasing the players irrespective of prices, they bought good players.

I agree that the excuse can be made for managers signed. Yes, they made some mistakes, but they also went for better to the best managers available. It just did not work in some instances and firing underperforming managers (which by the way does not mean they are bad managers, it just did not work) is normal as it’s easier to do than to fire majority of new players. Other clubs do it, so why should we be sticking with underperforming managers for more than 1-3 years (depending on the circumstances)? With salaries and termination costs, each manager barely scratch 50m. While buying one player could cost us close to that on average.

My post about Yamal that you referred to was not in any way asking them to keep a manager for 1-3 years. I was only saying i will not be impressed by any footballer coming into this club again based on what the player has done elsewhere, because we have seen many people come here and fail.

The same applies to managers too. And directors etc. All that hype new players, manager, owners get here should stop. Until we see what they can do FOR THE CLUB and IN THE CLUB, i am not moved.

But in your desperation and rush to act contrarian and run everything as agenda, you will add the debate of 10 years ago and that of 10 minutes ago together and confuse yourself.

And to your question about whether they bought good or better players. The answer is no. They did not. When the whole league was moving towards players that combined high level physicality and high-level technicality we kept on buying players that were too weak or too slow or struggled to control the ball. Just look at the way the Newcastle that physically bullied us a few days ago was physically bullied by Aton Villa.

And you should not look at things in isolation. By wasting huge money on useless or inadequate players it has now tied our hands in the transfer market as we can't spend as much as we would like to. A 20million player might be a good player but if you buy him for 80m you are failing at your duty. If you repeat it from 4-5 players, you are putting your club's future at risk.

It is crucial that we not only buy good players but at a good price, so that if they fail, they do not handicap the club's future.

Stop combining arguments of 10 years together like someone cooking edikaikong. I was talking about us not hyping people before they come into the club. I don't know where you and your coven turned it into not sacking underperforming manager. I have no affiliation to Amorin. Even when we signed him i was asking people here to tell us more about his style before i now went to watch videos on him.

Please don't tell me Shannon Sharpe is about to drop the ball.

P.S It seems like the ball been dropped already. Oh well......

nitrogen:
Naso now. After buying, they will start saying our scouts and board don’t buy well. We should have gone for a player like Yamal.

Do our scouts and board buy well?

Let's leave the confusion in your mind when the same board that according to you keeps hiring the wrong coaches is somehow managing to buy the right players.

We said no to Toni Kroos when Moyes wanted him and got Fellaini instead.

When Gabriel Barbosa and Gabriel Jesus were available, we tried to get Barbosa while Jesus went to City. Barbosa finally came to Europe and failed quickly before heading back to Brazil.

When Antony and Raphinha were available we paid 82m for Antony while Raphinha went to Barca for 50m.

We bought AWB (a RIGHTBACK o) who was obviously never going to be a top-level footballer for 50m. We bought Maguire a molue-slow CB from a lower level EPL team for 80m. This was YEARS ago, and even now top-level strikers are still going for 60-70m. But we bought 2 mediocre defenders for 130m.

If we have been appointing the wrong coaches for years, then we have also been buying the wrong players for years. People here keep talking about how the players can't be bad since they were doing well at their previous clubs before coming here. Well, that excuse can also be made for the managers. They also were doing well in their previous clubs before coming here.

My point was that fans should not get too giddy over any new signing based off reputation until they show us their quality in our club, but you and your coven of contrarian spirits must always find something to complain about.

iamharkinwaley:
Help me understand sir, are you saying you’re not please if we eventually sign him.

I am no longer impressed by name or reputation until they start performing for us.

BlueRayDick:
You remember that Young female doctor who died in the elevator at Lagos Island General hospital? As at the last time I checked , the elevator is yet to be fixed.

Poju no gree talk about that o. At least that was a lady that refused to Japa and doing exactly what Poju expects her to do.(Working in an unconducive work environment)

For months after the accident at least they did not fix the elevator.