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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:27am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:
It isn't every time this strategy is used though, some times the manager is just saying it as it is.

If it was Jose, I would have said he is just mostly praising the team.( Deploying the strategy).
It isn't every time, but it is most times. You rarely hear a manager criticizing an opponent before a game unless there is some prior beef. This Bielsa statement which is so obviously a softening up tactic is no different from what most managers would say before a match.

The same way when clubs sack useless managers they thank them for their hard work and positive impact on the team. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:43am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:
Handelex, bielsa no know ball. angry
grin grin

Ole has said this atimes though, keep it simple, express yourself. smiley
So you expect Bielsa to criticize Amaka and his boys the day before Ilan Meslier, Pascal Struijk, and Diego Llorente face Edinson Cavani, Marcus Rashford, and Mason Greenwood? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:38am On Apr 24, 2021
handelex:
Doc is Bielsa also a propagandist? Cos he's highly regarded here as one of those whose team have Taktiks and pattern.
That is how managers and players talk especially before a big game. Did you expect him to declare that Amaka was a mediocre manager with no tactical acumen?
You have to speak softly, but carry a big stick. In this case soften your opponent up with praise while planning to eliminate him.

How does it help his team to insult their more talented opponents thereby motivating those opponents? I remember 1994 Champions League Final, the eve of which the overconfident Barca Dream Team players and manager were talking carelessly about AC Milan, only for Milan to hand them a 4-0 spanking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:45am On Apr 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
Leave am, I dey use one eye look am.
You dey look am like Jega, abi? grin

Well it is good to have a balance of opinions here, we should just not let it degenerate into personal attacks as it often does.

Me personally, I see a hard limit to what Amaka can achieve with the players we have and are likely to acquire.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:38am On Apr 24, 2021
handelex you would make a great propagandist. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:28am On Apr 24, 2021
nitrogen:
cheesy cheesy
How far bros, you fit help us check their CV? cheesy

2 men both born in the relatively small city of Chelmsford in the same year, entered the same Uni the same year, graduated from the same faculty the same year, and joined the same accounting company (the same year of course)..............years later they are running (or ruining) the same the football club at the same time.

Village people did a number on Man Utd. O ma se o!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:25pm On Apr 23, 2021
Oasis007:
Liverpool don sign Ibrahim Konate. Clubs are already preparing for next Season, trust our Scouts to be checking blood samples to confirm United’s ’s DNA in target Players.
Konate is a talented defender but also an aspiring doctor. We already have 2 of those.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m):
patrickmuf:
Hehehe You sabi all Ed school mates, you sure say you sef no be him school mate?
Omo sometimes you got to delve deep o. Ed and Richard were born in the same year, in the same town in England. Furthermore they went to the same Uni at the same time.

If all that na coincidence then village people dey after Manchester United. If nitrogen fit help us look through their CV you go see say na the same kindergarten both of them attend.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:10pm On Apr 23, 2021
I am hearing that Richard Arnold (Ed Woodward's old primary school and university room mate) is going to take over as CEO.

LOL. The more things change the more they stay the same.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 4:58pm On Apr 23, 2021
SAF is a Scottish nationalist. Nothing special for McTominay. He is at best a squad player for a club with our aspirations.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:05pm On Apr 22, 2021
raumdeuter:
Leipzig situation had to do with starting from the bottom because Redbull approached many top-flight even division 2 sides who rejected them and their proposal despite all the money they offered to inject until they were able to find a division 5 team which they used its license and went through all the level of football.

Part of the deal to the other clubs was to have selected people being the members which the other clubs rejected
The point is that there is no exception allowing you to circumvent the 50+ 1 rule just because you are coming from lower leagues to the top.

The exception is the 20 year rule. The authorities didn’t allow RB Leipzig to have their ownership structure just because they were coming from lower leagues, rather RB Leipzig found a way to circumvent the rules and many people in Germany are still critical of them because of this.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:01pm On Apr 22, 2021
raumdeuter:
For Leipzig they went to like division 6 from the bottom level up to the Bundesliga. It will be like Instead of Shiekh buying Man City , he bought one in division 6 and rose through the divisions until he got to the Premier league

For Wolfsburg there was an exception based on the rule that if a corporate body has 20yrs continuous minority interest in a club, they can become majority owner

So if Abu Dhabi was prepared to sponsor Man City as a minority owner for 20yrs, they can become majority owner.

Basically it makes it hard for anyone to just buy a club unless you have long term interest and are prepared to go through the rigours even if you are not making profit
Leipzig's situation had nothing to do with starting from the bottom but more with sharp practices by Red Bull. RB Leipzig rejects applications from most people who are not employees or agents of Red Bull which means although they obey the letter of the law in having membership control, those members themselves are under the control of Red Bull.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:57pm On Apr 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
I want to learn, I am not really sure...
Oh ok. Thought it was a loaded question. Wolfsburg, Bayer Leverkusen, and Hoffenheim have exceptions via the 20yr rule. Leipzig does not have any exception but circumvented the rule via some yahoo boy moves.

Essentially what Leipzig did was to limit the voting membership almost exclusively to employers and other proxy agents of the Red Bull company. Therefore on paper it is obeying the 50+1 rule but in reality it is under the control of the top dogs at Red Bull.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:28pm On Apr 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Is it so for Leipzig and Wolfsburg?
cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:36pm On Apr 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
I read it and I understood but trophies defines a reign...
Then your point is wrong. Ed alluded to both those who won trophies and those who haven’t won in his statement.

The man was just clutching at straws and trying to spin a positive statement and nothing more. Na you dey try look for wetin no dey inside.

At this point Ed and the Glazers are doing iro competition. Take anything they say with a bowl of salt.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:20pm On Apr 21, 2021
GloryIsaac:
Lori iro.
E be like say the guy see tribal mark for our face. cheesy

If lying was an Olympic sport Joel Glazer would be a perennial gold medallist. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 4:08pm On Apr 21, 2021
Roland17:
Ledley King has to feel gutted..right?
On the surface it looks like it but Mason has more experience as a coach. King just joined last year mainly to learn the ropes and because of his status within the club, while Mason joined 3 years ago, and was first head of Under-19 and subsequently head of youth development.

They are probably doing it to protect King who is surely not ready for the job. Imagine if he gets the temporary job and they beat City in the League Cup? Spurs fans all over will start clamoring for him to get the job only for him to flop badly next season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 2:45pm On Apr 21, 2021
Jim Ratcliffe should just call a few of his friends and source the funds to buy the club from the Glazers. They have not given us the same competitive boost that the owners of Chelshit and Man City gave them.

We say NO to American audio money.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:45pm On Apr 21, 2021
Also, when during the off season when players are meant to be resting on vacation and then preparing for the next season do you want to fit over 100 games?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:43pm On Apr 21, 2021
Oasis007:
.......Choose a Venue, to be sold to highest Bidder, sell TV rights, attract super Sponsors, and make the Competition a round Robin - all Clubs faced each other and the Club with highest Points wins.

Note: first Teams Players must partake in the Competition.
We already have something similar with the pre-season tours. The profits can never be equal to a season long competitive tournament.

1) Many players won't be fully fit and the quality will be relatively low.

2) Will each team be able to play 18 to 25 pre-season matches like was planned for the Super League? Remember that more matches means more TV revenue and more gate takings.

3) The average fan won't be as invested in a pre-season tournament as they would be interested in a truly competitive season long tournament, so ratings won't be the same.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:35pm On Apr 21, 2021
Oasis007:
Super League Campaigner didn't think it well. Instead of breaking away, they should rather have made it a Pre-Season Tourney.
They didn't come up with the plan because they just enjoy playing against each other. They came up with it because of the huge profits. You can't get such huge profits from pre-season tournaments.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:37pm On Apr 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Shi shi them no go see...
Hehehehe. You go wicked well well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:32pm On Apr 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Those ones escort people go market so don't expect them to come back with anything...
So Assanal won’t even get mummy thank you?

grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:27am On Apr 21, 2021
KingAlabi:
Deeeppp cheesy cheesy

Docky why na cheesy
Na iriri aiye I just drop for you sharperly, and you no even pay for am. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 6:02am On Apr 21, 2021
eph12:
He thinks it's easy to sustain a certain lifestyle without steady cash flow at a certain level
You go easily sabi those who are still collecting pocket money. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:17pm On Apr 20, 2021
nihilistjnr:
So Arabs na audio o

Na Arab get Sheffield United for example
Of course na I don’t mean we should just enter Saudi and sell to just anybody.

That one that is a member of Saudi royal family and is not worth even up to a billion dollars.

I mean if an American is worth 1 billion dollars and an Arab is also worth 1 billion dollars, in most cases the Arab will be willing to spend more on his team than the American whose money is often part money and part audio.

Finally, God no go shame us o. I want authentic Arab money. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
Na Perez this thing go pain pass. cheesy

The others are mainly ignorant Americans that do not understand football as it is a foreign game to them.

Perez on the other hand allowed his greed to overcome his common sense.

That closed system with automatic inclusion and no qualification was what killed this Super League idea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:02pm On Apr 20, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

Na Qatari Person I want.
Arab money is authentic money, whether Qatari, Emirati, Saudi i no dey too choosy. grin

American money na audio money. We need owners that use spraying gun not those miserly Americans.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:54pm On Apr 20, 2021
adebayo201:
The most happiest person now should be Afrodoc on this Ed registration mata. grin
Hehehe. I am just watching from decking my gee. Let the Glazers sell the club to one money ravaged Arab first, then i will come down from decking to celebrate with you guys.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 2:44pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
So, what's the basis for bringing others in? Because it must be fair if they must succeed thus away from the welcome bonus and all, the winner should definitely get a higher prize money than what is obtainable in the UCL...
Even in the UCL the winners get more than the other teams but the Glazers did not have the incentive to chase the title. This Super league guaranntees cash windfall at little or no risk. There is no incentive for anyone who is not motivated by winning titles to spend more than is necessary there.

Spending 200-200m more in order to stand the chance of making 200-300m more and win the title will not pass the risk-benefit test of those Americans.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 2:36pm On Apr 20, 2021
MRTA7:
Ultimately winning the SL trophy wont matter because the tournament is owned by the big 6 clubs so they all get paid regardless. So they wont let just the winning team enjoy the money. The Glazers never cared about trophies, They care about making money.
Exactly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 2:35pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
But they'll be more incentive for the team winning it. Are you saying that extra £200 - £250m isn't enough to get clubs scrambling to win it?
The people that are just happy to qualify for Champions League every season will also be happy to just be in the Super league every season. The amount of money one needs to spend in order to win such a competition will be too much for people like the Glazers and Kroenke.

Barca, Real, Man City, Chelsea will be the ones rotating the title while the owners of Utd, Assanal, Spurs will stay up at night counting their money like Silas Marner.

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