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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 3:14pm On Apr 10, 2021
elampiro:
Pogba was also a problem. He turned turned ball back or around or many leg overs while everyone was thinking forward.

The lack of tactics in that particular match was there, but the players had many concentration issues. Many times, games after international break are hard for big teams whose players were very active in the period. The small.teams have their players resting
I was not even analyzing the match or indicting AWB's general play. I just noticed 2-3 passes that AWB gave to Pogba after the yellow card that put Pogba in trouble.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 3:11pm On Apr 10, 2021
Oasis007:
grin


No Bielsa Alert?
If we try it OleInners will smash our mouth with the baton. cheesy

I even had to go to Chelshit thread to say R.I.P to DMX in case OleInners here think it is a subliminal jab at Amaka.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 2:37pm On Apr 10, 2021
handelex:
It's just sad, we took ourselves out of contention.
We have had too many important players off form this season to maintain the high level needed. Immediately City stepped hard on the gas we couldn't keep up.

Just adding Martial and Greenwood's scoring form of last season would have kept us in the race.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:41pm On Apr 10, 2021
GloryIsaac:
cheesy grin grin
Fake Gold is not gold. Fake money is not money. Fake Brazilian is no Brazilian. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:03pm On Apr 10, 2021
olabode89:
Omari Forson... Man is balling hard today. I have a soft spot for Hoogewerf based on his naija connections.


Hatrick for Garnacho.
I have been impressed with Forson and Hansen. Hoogewerf has been quite good too but he is older than the rest so not as impressive. His mates are mainly playing Under-23.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:59pm On Apr 10, 2021
SyIvalord:
Yes, it could be that too. But don’t you it will be better if Patrick just admits that he does not know Madrid’s pattern of play because he doesn’t watch them regularly instead of pretending that he knows but isn’t just feeling like saying it. Na the intellectual wey Patrick dey try form dey make me laugh am.
LOL. But asking him for the pattern of play of Madrid is an exercise in smoke and mirrors. Whether anybody here knows Madrid's style/tactic/pattern is not relevant to the discussion. If you don't watch Madrid every week you might not know their pattern but it does not in of itself detract from your assertion about United's lack of an identifiable style/tactic/pattern.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:52pm On Apr 10, 2021
olabode89:
he just scored grin
You are watching. Who have you been impressed with?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:50pm On Apr 10, 2021
Finally McNeill scores. 6-1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:49pm On Apr 10, 2021
Yepaaa!!!. McNeill missed empty net.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:48pm On Apr 10, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Fred is from Congo grin grin, eph12 come see something....
cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:44pm On Apr 10, 2021
Chai! McNeill is missing easy chances today.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:41pm On Apr 10, 2021
SyIvalord:
I understand what you mean Doc.

Patrick said he cannot see any pattern of play Ole has instilled into the team which is obviously one of the reason he wants Ole to be sacked. He was then asked to describe what pattern of play Zidane, Klopp etc have instilled into their respective teams but he has been beating around the bush. Probably because he cannot see the pattern of play Zidane and Klopp has instilled into their respective teams either.

It’s just a point to prove that People often criticize Ole even when they do not know what they are talking about. No one asked Patrick for Madrid or Liverpool’s tactics, the tactics are easy to see.

Patrick is claiming that he cannot see any pattern of play Ole has instilled into the team despite him being knowledgeable enough to observe and ascertain different patterns of play employed by different managers. But he cannot tell us the pattern of play Zidane has instilled into Madrid. Is it that Madrid does not have a pattern of play, or Patrick is just not as knowledgeable as he thinks? That is the bone of contention.


Or could it be that Patrick is better able to answer questions about United's pattern of play (or lack thereof) because he watches United play 90 minutes twice every week while he can't answer such questions for Real Madrid as he does not watch them regularly.

Just saying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:28pm On Apr 10, 2021
GloryIsaac:
Is the midfielder Brazilian? lipsrsealed
We don't have a Brazilian midfielder.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:22pm On Apr 10, 2021
Lana1:
That doesn't change anything. We just want to know what Madrid's tactics/style of play is.
Short passing possession oriented game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:12am On Apr 10, 2021
SyIvalord:
Lol, if we call them pseudo intellectuals now, them go start to dey para. I just dey look with corner eye.
You guys are getting it wrong o. There is a difference between pattern of play and tactic.

Counter attack is a tactic, not a patten of play.

Just saying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:07am On Apr 10, 2021
SyIvalord:
Wasn’t it the same Ole that eased Greenwood into the team? I trust that he will also ease our other promising youngsters into the team with time.
Mejbri’s time will come. I remember a couple of years ago those in the know were wondering why Amaka wasn’t playing Greenwood.

By this time next year Mejbri will be better than some senior midfielders. I don’t want to name names or lay blame.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:55am On Apr 10, 2021
Leyqute:
Amaka is not serious jare. If he can’t trust VDB etc in midfield Mejbri will likely not get the go ahead.

He could replace him wirh Bruno tho. Or Pogba. After 70-75 mins.
Mejbri has serious potential. If he can bulk up just a little bit I think he can move straight to the senior squad next season without going on loan.

In an ideal world he should be Pogba’s understudy while Shoretire understudies Bruno. Shoretire and Elanga might need a loan next season though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:19am On Apr 10, 2021
Leyqute:
Wait...I think we mentioned this earlier. Must’ve forgotten.

When will Mejbri get his debut then ?
Probably towards the end of the season when Top 4 is mathematically sealed.

Shoretire was lucky. He was behind both Elanga and Mejbri on the queue but both got injured at about the same time and Shola made his debut.

I suspect Mejbri will make his debut on the wings rather than in midfield due to Amaka’s excessive caution.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 1:14am On Apr 10, 2021
R.I.P DMX.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:04am On Apr 10, 2021
Leyqute:
Greenwood is still a good backup. I think he should be trialed in that position till the end of the season. He was tried there yesterday but he had a bad game cos he was nervy and hurried some balls. He’s played that position and done well before tho not as a starter. Yesterday was just one game. I don’t think it’s enough to write him off.

I think he should lead the line in the return leg vs Granada. Maybe when we’ve secured top 4 he should lead the line in the league too.

The only thing stalling Amad is his strength and physique. He’s still a kid and will be bullied off the ball easily. He needs to build up. He will get minutes in the Europa before given minutes in the EPL.

Why didn’t Mejbri play yesterdayhuhhuhhuhhuh!
Mejbri is not in the Europa League list. He has not been here long enough to be on the B list and the A list is already filled with senior players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 4:03pm On Apr 09, 2021
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:40pm On Apr 09, 2021
handelex:
Our defending has been lackluster atimes but it’s not been poor as you’re making it out to be. The problem with them is they can’t play out from the back to save their lives, Bissaka and Fred being chief culprits.

Our attackers should be doing more but you need to understand the gaping hole in the right wing coupled with Bissaka’s ineptitude going forward in that same right wing. Our attack has been heavily left dependent and it shows.

As for the midfield although they’ve created chances for the forwards yet I still see no balance to their play as Ole keeps playing double pivots almost every game. A quality CDM can bring that balance. It showed in those matches we blew teams away after project restart when Matic was deployed as the sole anchor but it didn’t last as his legs were gone.

Pressing needs for the summer, a quality right wing player that creates and provides width for the full back, a CDM, a striker and a CB. I assume Dalot is coming back to provide options for the RB spot.

Another important point, Ole needs to upgrade very fast or we may remain just a top four team and we should be looking past that now.
If we don't make significant signings Top 4 might be a struggle next season. I no want make the thing shock people.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:35am On Apr 09, 2021
patrickmuf:
That's what they want to make us believe when in all honesty, it is not true...
2 things can be true. The players can be poor with the manager being poor as well. They are not mutually exclusive situations.

Even a great manager like Pep has had to discard gazillion players because even he could not get them to perform. There is a big list of players that flopped under him.

Even if our players will perform better under a better manager (which i agree with) it will be marginal. We aren't winning the league under any regular circumstance with this bunch.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:22am On Apr 09, 2021
DeadPresidents:
You see am abi?

I sure say Wan-Bissaka dey carry last for class when he been dey Congo.

Olodo Boy.
There was a pass he gave Pogba that Pogba (after struggling with 2-3 opponents and losing out) just shook his head like "but i no steal this guy babe nau".
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:02am On Apr 09, 2021
AWB tried his best to get Pogba sent off in that game, especially in the first half. Pogba should thank his chi that he escaped without being sent off.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:57am On Apr 09, 2021
Oasis007:
Exactly my Observation some Weeks ago, only to be checkmated.grin
Me sef fear to talk am, before KingAlabi smash my mouth with the baton. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:25pm On Apr 08, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Great win away from home, hope we go on to win it....
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:01pm On Apr 08, 2021
Oasis007:
Greenwood was really poor tonight.
Quite poor. We just don’t create enough chances.

If we spend our whole budget on Haaland he won’t score in this team. We will just be repeating the Pogba mistake.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:59pm On Apr 08, 2021
2 hours of my life I can’t get back. Nobody played well. And we have a mannequin manager.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:06pm On Apr 08, 2021
I am hearing Rashford is starting again despite limping off just a few days ago. This guy will be finished by 25.

If person criticize Amaka now KingAlabi will come for the jugular. Back to my decking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:07pm On Apr 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Elanga is my favorite academy player but Amad comes with a somewhat hefty price tag that means he'll likely get more minutes than others.
Exactly.

Ehen e be like say you wan dump one Anthony for the other.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 4:53pm On Apr 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hopefully he gets some minutes but that's a big ask considering Amad isn't even getting enough minutes...
When Amad played with the Under-23 he did not look better than Elanga although it is a small sample size.

Out of the teenagers at the club I would rate Greenwood, Mejbri, Elanga, Amad, Shoretire in that order.
Of course with the caveat being that we have not really seen enough of Amad to give a fair judgement AND Shoretire has regularly played 4-5yrs ahead of his age group so it is very difficult to judge just how good he is.

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