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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:27am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
So we can take a walk down memory lane to revisit one of your greatest humiliations?

Link posted cites tenders posted by Armscor - official source
Link does NOT cite any tender on Amscor, it says Denel, and no tender.

Show us the tender and the guns named as super rapid.

You want us to start bringing doubtful sources on this forum, if you do so, I will retaliate.

I am NOT humiliated, the source is there....Army Guide website, you can go and humiliate them in America.

You want us to bring all kinds of sources and claims here? I am ready, tit for tat !

SAN has NO SINGLE 76mm super rapid, you have old school 76mm compact.

Super rapid came to market in 1988, South Africa bought 76mm guns in 1977.

How did you buy in 1977, a gun that does NOT exist in 1977 ?

http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Oto-Melara-76mm-compact-super-rapid.htm

Foooool grin grin grin grin Demolished
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:16am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
So your illiteracy has lead you to believe that you are training the Egyptian military?

Lol
Your illiteracy + envy prevented you from analyzing that message correctly
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:10am On Jun 01, 2015
Henry120:
Terrorism: Nigeria, Egypt to partner on intelligence

MAY 31, 2015 : ADELANI ADEPEGBA 1 COMMENT
     




The Nigerian and Egyptian militaries are to partner on intelligence-sharing and training to combat the threats by Boko Haram and Islamic State of Iraq and Syria terrorists in the two countries.

The Egyptian Foreign Affairs Minister, Sameh Shoukry, who said this in an interview with journalists in Abuja on Saturday, stated that President Muhammadu Buhari would soon visit Cairo for talks on military and bilateral relations between Egypt and Nigeria.

According to him, Nigerian and Egyptian militaries would collaborate and work together to degrade the capability of the two terrorist organisations and end the security crises in North and West Africa.

The minister observed that Boko Haram and ISIS have the same objectives of overthrowing the governments in Nigeria and Egypt, stressing that it would take a robust partnership between the two countries to exterminate the terrorist groups.

Shoukry explained that the Egyptian Army had been tackling the ISIS terrorists with precision to reduce collateral damage, stressing that the fight against terrorists in Africa must be comprehensive and total.

He said, “Egypt and Nigeria are facing terrorism and there is need to cooperate to deal with the challenge and other conflicts. Egypt looks forward to increasing relations with Nigeria Army in the areas of intelligence cooperation and training. We have recorded considerable victory against ISIS and the operations are undertaken with precision to avoid collateral damages, ISIS power is degraded.”

Meanwhile, the Republic of South Sudan has said it needs the assistance of Nigeria in the areas of  training for its security personnel, many of whom were former rebels, who were conscripted into the security agencies.

South Sudan Vice President, James Igga, who said this while responding to questions from journalists at the inaugural meeting of the South Sudan Nigerian Chambers of Commerce and Industries in Abuja, explained that the security situation in his country has improved tremendously.

Igga stated that the peace process in his country would resume soon, noting that the crisis would have been resolved, but for the shifting positions of the rebel leaders whom he blamed for the continuous violence in parts of South Sudan.

The VP called on Nigerian businessmen and investors to take advantage of the economic opportunities in the young nation, adding that South Sudan has large tracts of fertile land as well as untapped mineral resources, which serious-minded entrepreneurs could invest in.

Igga said, “We need capacity training for teachers, the civil service and students.  We also need security training for the security personnel. We want Nigeria to assist with the training of the Army and the police. You know most of them were guerrillas and if you are a guerrilla, you learn to shoot at people, but you can imagine if you convert such a person into the police, what would happen? So we need security training for our personnel.”
Nigerian army will soon be training the rest of the world's military, AU, NATO, Asia, Israel, etc.

Egypt has chosen Nigerian army as the second strongest in Africa.

This thread/topic's question has been answered by finally.

1. Egypt

2. Nigeria

3. The rest
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:07am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
Citation had been posted

Stop wasting my time with pointless demands
Should I post a citation that says Nigeria has Bofors FH-77 B05 L52 artillery with 43 km range ?

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:03am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
You still think a rocket pod is something O brag about?

Utter despiration
Yes , SAAF Rooivalk pilot bragged about his rocket pod in Congo DRC UN operation.

Nigeria manufactures rocket pods, South Africa does NOT ! shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:02am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
You have yet to prove that your decoys are 100% effective

Until you do so your statements are all false

War history shows that you don't stand a chance
War history shows that Exocets are easily defeated when decoys are launched.

Ships sank by Exocet had no decoy launched or had radar problems that did not see the enemy like the HMS Sheffield, and that was the only combat ship that was sunk. The other ship was a transporter with poor defences.

Now you show us proof of your claim that PJ-46 is not !00% effective, you are the one making claim, so prove it, same way I proved Exocet is not 100% effective, I k.illed your missile with British naval sources and war history, so it's your turn to k.ill my decoy with credible sources and war history that is relevant to AShm Vs Decoy.

Prove your case, or the court judge will throw it out for lack of evidence.

NN OPV sinks SAN frigate shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:57am On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:
Uhm...I posted the weblink right after I posted this photo, I even told you to go read it if you didn't believe me... secondly why couldn't you go to the weblink yourself, I even made a red circle around the weblink!
You did NOT post any weblink, stop lying, rather you circled the weblink in red on the photo, and it needed a microscope to read those tiny fonts.

Fool + Liar
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:56am On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
So SAN is paying for the maintenance of a gun it oes not have?
SAN has NEVER said it has super rapid, so it has NEVER said it is maintaining what it does NOT have.

Show us an SAN official source that claims it has 76mm super rapid, show us.

Fraud, thief, liar !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:54am On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:
Hope you are getting the taste of your own medicine. Can you see how boring it is when someone is just debating just for the sake of it. Boring isn't. That is what you have been reduced into. Then when someone else does it, you feel like you intelligence is offended. Shame!!!

Meanwhile, MTN is the first telecommunication company to operate in Nigeria with a licence followed by econet, dummy. Hence, MTN is the first network to introduce cellphones in Nigeria.


http://ireports-ng.com/2011/05/05/on-poor-mobile-communication-network-in-nigeria/
Econet was first FOREIGN cell phone to operate in Nigeria

"With the announcement, Econet became the first company to offer GSM phones to Africa's largest, and perhaps most neglected, telecoms market. Nigeria with a population of 110 million has less than one connected phone line for every 250 people. For the few with a telephone, only one in three calls gets through."

http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2001/08082001-econet_first_in_race_to_launch_nigeria.htm

First cellphone operator in Nigeria is NOT foreign, it was Nigerian M-TEL in 1993 with CDMA cellphones. ECONET/MTN came 2001 with GSM.

"First mobile cellular services began in 1993. 2G GSM licence issued in February 2001; transfer of clients to the new network must begin by August 2001."

http://www.mbendi.com/indy/cotl/tlcm/af/ng/p0020.htm

Stop this your foolish habit of trying to teach Nigerian history to Nigerians. You just make a fool of yourself all the time
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:44am On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:
Dude don't blame me because you are dyslexic, I told you from the beginning that the specs are for the Warrior class OPV...so what if there was a photo of a T-craft, that's why I posted the link as well for you to go read!
You posted not weblink, you posted only a photo.....with tiny print of Warrior craft and bold print of T-CRAFT.

It's your fault that your presentation of data/image evidence was bad ! Admit it M0R0N !

If you submit exam paper with words that are super tiny and a wrong heading plus wrong photogragh, you will fail in school.

Fool...see your garbage presentation below....I have always said you will end up as a hair cutting barber in career
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:45pm On May 31, 2015
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It was a bad weekend for South African navy on Nairaland

Nigerian OPVs sank ALL expensive South African Frigates

Mandela's ocean investments are ruined in one day

NNS Centenary, NNS Unity anti-missile rockets + main gun did the job

Naija OPV sinks over-rated blue water navy of South Africa

Thank you China, thank you Nigeria

Thank you PJ-46, thank you AK-176


PJ-46 anti-missile rocket launchers of Nigerian OPVs are decoy rocket launchers installed to deceive incoming anti-ship missiles.


Fresh nightmare hits Pretoria, lots of sleepless nights for Southie Admirals, panic hits naval base.

End of voyage for all Valour Frigates....over-hyped blue water navy sinks to ocean bottom

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:28pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
We will rap.e your economy
With what? Dangote already castrated your country.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:22pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
SOUTH AFRICA DEVELOPED MANY ROCKET PODS, FACT!!!
Show us and name them
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:19pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
So we want to ra.pe Nigeria and bring everything back home. We always get the lion share in Nigeria's economy while you get fokol.
Like your companies will come with guns and rob banks in Lagos and send the money back to Soweto?

Do you know what FDI means? Do you know how economics works?

Mumu chief .
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:18pm On May 31, 2015
EVarn:
Of course,their country is crumbling apart!,the only option left for them is to ferry their investments up here to Nigeria.Afterall,they've gotta keep their businesses afloat.

Even the west wants to establish Nigeria as Africa's superpower and a powerful international geopolitical ally under Buhari's regime after observing the disturbing trend of events that have unfolded in SA through the years,of late is the FIFA bribery scandal.
South Africa is a sinking ship, saturated economy. Nissan is moving out of that bad market to Nigeria.

Biggest economy in Africa, one of the fastest growing in the world, too attractive for South Africans to ignore !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:14pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
So you are illiterate?

Read my post again:
Nope, your first post said straight up, after I said max 85 degrees.

It was after I re-arranged your South African brain with Nigerian geometry that you obeyed my command.

Before, the you said....

Patchesagain:
1. who says we dont have cram

2. who says we dont have CRAM

3. dual 35mm has 2 barrels and is radar guided - so it can also shoot down bombs

4. If you are attacking from above uhmkonto range means that the bombs will be falling from above so the 35mm will be shooting straight up!

Hahahahaha

You have said for so long shilka can shoot down bombs that it is has come back to haunt you!
Liar....Fraud....Thief....South African....Bribed FIFA with $10 million to host World Cup 2010 !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:09pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
So SAN is paying for the maintenance of Guns it does not have?
SAN is paying for maintenance of 76mm Compact gun.

The source on super rapid gun is wrong, same way a source said SAAF has air to ground missiles, do you have it ?

Fools, 50 million South Africans CANNOT challenge any source that posts error, you all are NOT smart enough upstairs grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:08pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
We do.

You think a rocket pod impresses us?

Some tubes with a firing switch?

o my god, i cant even.
Show us South African made bomb disposal Robot and Rocket pods.

BTW, the only powerful weapon on Rooivalk is the Rcoket pod imported from Europe , so Rocket pods impress SAAF....the import it
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:06pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
Name only one country that uses your technology. I know for sure that Nigeria uses many of SA proudly made tech. Give us only one country or even where your technology is used in the world.
You can open a new thread for "Who exports more technology in Africa"

Sorry you are off topic for this thread
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:06pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
Name only one country that uses your technology. I know for sure that Nigeria uses many of SA proudly made tech. Give us only one country or even where your technology is used in the world.
You cab open a new thread for "Who exports more technology in Africa"

Sorry you are off topic for this thread
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:05pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
A ghost which they tried to resurrect from the parts of an Israeli drone.

Bwahahahahaha…
Citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:04pm On May 31, 2015
saengine:
I wonder how any bomb dropped from an F-7 jet will fall at a 90 degree angle towards a frigate, unless dropped in a vertical dive. If the pilot released his bomb at 26 000 feet and then only starts to pull of of his dive, simple laws of physics dictate his turn circle will be well within Umkhonto's range....which means a dead pilot wink.

If he releases his bomb well above 26 000 feet and pulls out of the dive above that height, your target will be LONG gone. See related pic wink. Harmless bombs falling into the water.

Released in horizontal flight, bombs will have a parabolic arc. Hence no need for 90 degree elevation for our naval guns.

Oh and I seem to recall a certain well known reta.rd asking us how our Hawk/Gripen jets will be able to see targets "through the clouds" when flying at 5.5km (above Roland missile ceiling). I wonder if he's able to explain how F-7 pilots will see "through the clouds" at 8 km when making their final bomb run. A full 2.5 km of "extra cloud grin" to blind the pilot. ATR-42 can give general position of target, but the F-7 pilot is still has zero visual.

When people spew cra.p on here and hope others forget.
You wrote a lot of crap, but let me be nice and impart some Nigerian knowledge to fill up the vacuum in your South African skull.

At 5.5km altitude, Gripen/Hawk jet pilots lose visual target identification, cloud or no cloud.

Radar CANNOT I.D. a Roland from a tank, or bulldozer, it's radar waves showing dots not a TV Video Camera showing photograph.

F-7 jet has ground search radar, pilot does not need close visual, only South African frigate is at sea under him, or your navy and our navy sail side by side?

Valour frigate is about 100 times bigger than a Roland, so at 9 km above sea, only a blind SAAF pilot will not see a massive ship on an open ocean wide and almost empty of objects.

Say thank you for this free Sunday lessons on common sense.....that is not common in Soweto grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:54pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
That means you don't know EXOCET and how it works.
It's infromation available for free on internet...mumu
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:52pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
Why dont you start by showing us that the Exocet is a fire and forget missile?
You mean Exocet is wire guided by human control ?

#Trap-Trap
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:51pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
This is how antique F7 jets will meet their final journey.
F-7 jet max operating ceiling 17 km above sea level

Umkhonto missile max operating ceiling 8 km above sea level

I am sure mathematics is a problem for you as much as geography grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:48pm On May 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
Who said Germany has never sold AHEAD ammo to us?
Thanks for confirming you never purchased AHEAD ammo, so you DO NOT have it
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:45pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
http://weaponsystems.net/weapon.php?weapon=HH10%20-%20Exocet
Thanks for proving my point, your above source says clearly that Exocet is guided only by the launch platform, not anything else.

Sunday suicide by Patches grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:43pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
Question for 10 points: What is a radar-horizon?
It is the thing I explained over one year ago when I lectured your South African navy officer here that NNS Aradu Otomat missiles only needs helicopter guidance if the range of target is over the horizon of the ships radar guidance/fire control
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:39pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
85 degrees is just 5 degrees of 90
You first said 85 degrees is straight up....I had to give you Sunday Maths lesson, 85 degrees is slant, simple geometry that 50 million South Africans cannot know until Nigerians teach them.

Straight up = 90 degrees = perpendicular in geometry

85 is NOT = 90

Olodo of Cape Colony grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:36pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
Citations have been posted.

Deal with it.
SAN official website disputes your error loaded citations. Soweto navy says they only have 76mm compact, nothing super or rapid in your navy.

Deal with it !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:34pm On May 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
None of those things are particularly advanced, and none fall within the gambit as an advanced combat platform.

You need to:

a. Produce a system with the same or superior capabilities as the Rooivalk
b. Domestically produce a system with the same or superior capabilities as the Rooivalk

And then I will happily discuss the Rooivalk with you.

Until then, the topic is moot.
Produce a bomb disposal Robot and rocket pod....do it like Nigeria !

http://allafrica.com/stories/201307231128.html
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:33pm On May 31, 2015
SemuhleB:
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Are you female? is that your real picture? Lets talk wink wink

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