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Patchesagain:
1970's exocets v 1970's decoys and warships = 2 british ships sunk, one damaged (60% hit rate in combat)

modern exocets v modern decoys and warships = ??

You say that your decoy dispensers will defeat exocet - prove it

saengine:
Take this rub.bish off this website, you fake. Useless fake.

You think our Navy will fire Umkhonto missiles like they are cheap bullets? No missiles will be fired at any aircraft at the extreme
range of Umkhonto, particularly since at extreme range (15km) your F-7 jets have nothing to hit us with. Umkhonto is fired at targets with a high probability of hitting, meaning one of your pilots has been stu.pid enough to get within range. What makes you think the battle will last 48 hours? 10 minutes is all we need. A South African submarine anywhere from 12-18 km away from your OPV will make easy work of it. 48 hours for what?


And don't even dare come here with "Umkhonto and F-7 have the same speed".......you have proved time and time again that you are not technically inclined (e.g air pressure argument). You will be demolished. It's something called physics, not sure if you've heard of it.


Example: An F-7 jet 15 km away (out of range of Umkhonto) flies at Mach 2 straight towards our Frigate, pretending to attack (in the hope that we fire and waste a missile). He has to get within 15 km for us to be even interested in firing at him. If he starts turning away BEFORE he enters 15 km diameter, it's obvious it's a fake attack. No missiles will be fired. He has to FIRST get into range of our missiles, hope we fire at him, THEN turn away. Do you know that at this point your pilot is already dead?

The turn circle of your F-7 flying at Mach 2 will not be measured in meters. It will be measured in kilometers. Reason for this? G-Force. Centrifugal forces at Mach 2 are so high that your pilot will literally need kilometers to turn, at a reasonable G-Force (4-6 G's). Your soon to be dead pilot has created a massive turn circle within range of Umkhonto. To make things worse, for half of that turn he has a component of his velocity vector point straight to the frigate. Meaning at this point the closure speed between Umkhonto and F-7 is greater than Mach 2 (I know you don't understand that last sentence, but the others do). Your pilot is doomed. Unlike Umkhonto, he cannot make high speed turns like Umkhonto (40G at Mach 2). Same applies if the pilot gets into a dive from high altitude.

Your fake attacks outside of Umkhonto range will be clearly fake to everyone. No missiles fired. Your fake attacks inside of Umkhonto range will result in nothing but pure death.

Patchesagain:
HMS SHEFFIELD - mortally damaged south east of Falklands by Exocet missile. Burnt out and sank in tow on Monday 10th May
ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow.
HMS Glamorgan - damaged off Stanley by land-based Exocet missile
http://www.naval-history.net/F62-Falklands-British_ships_lost.htm


5 exocet were sold to argentina
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/falkland-islands/45704/bbc-finds-evidence-french-helped-argentines-sink-our-ships

HMS Sheffield had chaff launchers

3/5 = 60% hit probability

60% of 17 = 10

10 of our Exocet will hit your one OPV

It will be atomized

Patchesagain:
Augstus

Stop avoiding the question

You have said chaff launchers are 100% effective

Patchesagain:
TIME FOR A MATHS LESSON!!

Warrior class OPV

Range: 3,600 nmi (6 667 km) at 18 knts (32kmh)

667 divided by 32 = 208

Hence - it takes the warrior class 208 hours to cover 7400km (less than 10 days)

How many hours in 10 days? 240!

P18N range 3000nmi (5556km) at 18knts (32kmh)

5556 divided by 32 = 173

It takes 173 hours for the P18N to run out of fuel (7 days)

Conclusion: Warrior class outranges the P18N because it can patrol for ALL 10 days of its endurance while the P18N can only patrol for 7 days of its endurance

Patchesagain:
TIME FOR A MATHS LESSON!!

Warrior class OPV

Range: 3,600 nmi at 18knts

Patchesagain:
Are we or are we not a BRICS member?

Is Nigeria a BRICS member?

No?

I rest my case

Patchesagain:
#Butthurt

Sorry our military doesnt look like the rag-tag militia that the Nigerian military is.

Patchesagain:
Are you saying it is a bad thing that South Africa is not in the middle of a civil war and has its waters and coast-line infested with pirates like Nigeria?

lezz:
and your battle starved military is busy posing for pics more than real army that are battle proven, tested and hardened.

S.A army begging for the spot light.

Patchesagain:
And so?

medium range is on the way

long range is under development

We are building an air defence system that you cannot even afford to buy

Patchesagain:
Training > Combat experience

saengine:
SAAF 2015...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HmDBLbaNI

Patchesagain:
Starstreak is the best VSHORAD in Africa

and with the implimentation of Sky-Sheild we will be the only African military, and one of the few militarys in the world, to have an active CRAM system

jln115:
Oh my fvcking word dude, the T-Craft specs are under the PIC dude, did you actually think a small IPV has a range of 3000nm? And you call yourself a military reasercher!

Go visit the site again! Im fvcking begging you, then come back and debate with me again.

saengine:
Lol. A certain un-named f00l is planning on firing unguided rockets into water using Alpha jets, in the hope of sinking a submarine .

Not to mention the fact that Umkhonto would have long shot down any Alpha jets nearby, before they can execute such a stu.pid plan.

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria doesn't have the Hamilton cutter.
Your OPV is a stripped down version of the cutter.

MikeCZAR:
You don't know what you're talking about troll.

The warrior class OPVs have a single 76mm super rapid naval gun.

It would seem you're the kid and no one is arguing with you. Maybe you thought this was a kid thread.

Patchesagain:
How will the Alpha jet sink a submarine?

Patchesagain:
We have warships

You do not

That is the difference between a navy and a coast gaurd

Now - you say it will defeat all missiles? Provide proof!

Patchesagain:
It will never be a gun-fight because the Valour Class has missiles and your OPV does not

Patchesagain:
Pic related = argument destroyed

Drakensburg brah

Patchesagain:
Nigerian Navy has no ability to engage in ASW

Augustus himself admitted that one SAN sub can sink your entire navy

Patchesagain:
What capabilities does the Thunder have that SAN does not have?

Patchesagain:
The size of the combat fleet is not dictated by the size of your country

Patchesagain:
You dont have any active warships

No, you said it can sink a Valour Frigate... you have yet to prove it.

Patchesagain:
Prove you work in the defence industry

liar.

Patchesagain:
Valour Class has SSM's

Your OPV will be sunk by them

If you wish to claim that your chaff-launchers can defeat all 17 exocet missiles that the SAN has, then you need to provide proof.

Patchesagain:
- hind taking off
- which of your warships can your hind land on?
- backflips can be an effective combat maneuver
- hovering in combat and hovering to land are very different things - hind makes gun runs like a fixed wing aircraft in combat because it lacks the maneuverability to use cover and hover
- fact remains, hind cannot do advanced evasive maneuvers

Patchesagain:
This is the foundation of your argument

What proof do you have to substantiate it?

Patchesagain:
Valour class dont have to stop aywhere

We have a resupply ship you chucklefuck