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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:54pm On May 30, 2015
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Patchesagain:
Ill post citations when you post citations for gripen ground search radar and for the effectivness of your decoy launchers
You have no proof !

Economic speed of Warrior boat is NOT defined anywhere !

Range, miles: 1,500 at 30 knot; 3,600+ at economical speed

http://navy.mil.za/equipment/patrol.htm

Your argument of out-ranging the P18N is therefore ruined !

Only way to compare two ships ranges is to bring them to the same level speed knots

P18N range is 3,000 miles at 14 knots

Warrior is 3,600 miles at economic speed, how many knots is economic speed ?

#Patches Argument Stuck In the Mud....Sank Beyond Redemption shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
saengine:
YOU POSTED THIS PICTURE ON THIS FORUM ON FEBRUARY 8TH

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2105544_nnscentenarymissiletest1_jpega387fe8fc46fcbe4608e557957ef826f


https://www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly/97#30529344.


THE SAME PICTURE WAS POSTED ON FEBRUARY 9TH ON BEEGEAGLE BLOG BY ITS OWNER "AUGUSTINE"


https://beegeagle./2015/02/09/was-the-nigerian-navy-stealth-opv-nns-centenary-f91-ever-involved-in-the-test-firing-of-missiles-is-the-ship-missile-armed/



Tell us you fake, how were you able to have the picture BEFORE the owner posted it on the internet? You used a time machine?
Or the simple answer, you, Augustine posted your screengrab here first, and then on Beegeagle the next day. Simple.
You think you're talking to a bunch of 5 year olds?
Still does NOT prove it's me !

There are thousands of Augustines all over Africa.

Pictures circulate all over internet from forum to forum, thread to thread.

I posted it here Feb 8, another guy copied it and posted elsewhere Feb 9...makes sense, it's two different people

You need to confirm and post the surname of two Augustines on the two different forums to prove it's exactly the same person.

Same way South Africans said the Col. Eben on Beegeagle is not the real Col. Eben, so why is the Augustine on Beegeagle the real me ?

#TRAPPED grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
Ok - and our CRAM shoots the bomb out of the sky

You said this is possible!
When did I say it is possible? I never said that !

Valour frigates have only one 20mm Denel gun, and no proof that you purchased CRAM munitions for it.

It remains a simple cannon until you post proof that you bought CRAM munitions imported from Germany
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:35pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
citations please
Google Algerian and Egyptian army air defences. I won't waste my time on Arab countries. Use your own time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:28pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Deployed on private land with no relation to the SANDF or SAPS
Deployed inside South African homeland territory, or are they in Ghana ? grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
saengine:
You have been utterly beaten in the argument that you've resorted to posting this utter rubb.ish? I told you i will demolish you....and this is your best response? Pathetic.


At what speed and altitude will you drop these "incendiary bombs" Mr Reasearcher? Is it still 2000km/h and 7.5 km? What speed? You'll drop them at supersonic speed? grin

You were uttelry embarrased on here flying your jets at 2000 km/h not knowing you cant hit us with munitions....you fake grin cheesy
Your Soweto brain works in only one direction and always in reverse gear.

NAF has massive air to ground attack experience. Why drop bomb at 2,000 km/hr when Umkhonto cannot work beyond 8km ceiling.

F-7 will fly at 9km and drop air explosive time delay bombs, he can fly at 800 km/hr if he wishes, your Umkhonto is useless at that height.

Ya got a new lesson from my 101 book, say thank you.

Just to let you know, combat pilots are not fools who only think in one way, their head is full of 101 different war tactics
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:23pm On May 30, 2015
FighterPilot:
SA Mercenaries that helped and trained coward Nigerian soldiers.
American mercenaries and currently serving soldiers inside South Africa to help cowardly SANDF kill Rhino poachers tongue tongue

See them ridding on South African MRAP as warloads.....saviours of South Africa !

https://navyseals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Rhino-Wars.jpg
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:18pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
I am going to pretend that your post is a joke
Please pretend, so that your will not have heart attack
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:16pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
5 missiles fired

2 ships sunk

1 ship damaged

60% hit ratio.
A damage is not a kill. Wounded soldiers still get bandaged and fight.

Did I hear you say now it's 5 missile fired? You said before that it was only 3 Exocets fired, you love the way I teach you, right ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:14pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
What the actual fvck did i just read?

Too stu.pid to even respond to
Too defeated to respond to superior combat tactics 101
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:09pm On May 30, 2015
saengine:
Let me expose how you are a fake researcher for the millionth time, grab a seat and enjoy grin grin.

Our Navy is fully aware that there is no weapon which F-7 carries that can be dropped from 7.5 km altitude flying at 2000 km/h. There is
nothing to defend against, there is no need to fire any missiles. Do you know why it's an obviously fake attack? Because F-7 can't even
drop any munitions while travelling at 2000 km/h you f00l grin grin. Most fighter jets in service today are incapable of supersonic munitions release. Jets usually have to slow down to release any munitions. That's something you didn't know.....at all grin. I believe the F-22 Raptor is the only jet so far which has demonstrated super sonic release of munitions. Not sure about Typhoon and Rafale.

THE ONLY WAY for you to get a SA Navy Frigate to fire at you, is if you get into a flight envelope which will give Umkhonto a high probability of hitting the target. So keep flying at 2000 km/h at 7.5 km and waste your fuel, we wont be bothered. Your F-7 pilot will have to get into a flight regime which allows him to use his guns, OR aim un-guided rockets at the Frigate. All of those flight regimes put him within deadly range of Umkhonto, sending the pilot to an early grave.

Enjoy your lesson, you fake.
The F-7 will drop incendiary bomb with time detonation over your head if you don't fire missile on the jet.

F-7 pilots are not fools after one thousand and one air to ground attack combat experience 2015.

If your SAMs don't respond, he will make next run with a bomb that will detonate by itself in the air above your ship, the falling burning debris and shrapnel will cause multiple fires on your ship !

If pressure continues, the burning bomb splinters can land on fuel or oils, or even on your missile silo, or main gun shell ammo chambers. That will cause a massive explosion on your Valour frigate and the ship will b.low itself up into pieces !

Your ship will be so terrified of the reality that they are helpless, they will defend to shoot down the F-7 ....or watch while splintered bomb debris starts multiple fires on your Frigate, damage radar mast, damage deck top electronics and sensors....till your radar is wrecked and you cannot do radar detection, radar tracking, radar fire control guidance anymore.

Then you will know that you have sailed into a Lion's den called Nigerian oceans !

Fool, you think war is simple one way traffic with tactless pilots flying jets? 101 tactics, air to ground attack
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:00pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
3 ships hit, 2 sunk.
5 missiles fired, 2 ships sunk. 2/5 = 40 % kill ratio.....bad bad bad missile, you should have bought Otomat like Nigeria
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:59pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Irrelevant post
I trapped you again...fool grin grin

Your Southie friends said SAN has tested Exocet on 4 frigates, so you fired four. They boasted here about your training grin grin

You now say South Africa has NO missile test firing experience at sea ?

#Trap....How many Exocets do you have now ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:58pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
actually, according to your own source - exocet hit rate is 100%

Exocets were launched on at least three occasions, each less successful than the last,suggesting that the Royal Navy has developed tactics which render the missile almost ineffective. "

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1982/1982%20-%201960.PDF

3 out of 5 missiles launched

3 ships hit

2 sunk

1 rendered combat ineffective

#WarHistroyProvesIt
3 Occasions does not mean 3 missiles....you Gauteng buffoon ! You know nothing about sea warfare !

1 Occasion 2 missiles fired, another occassion 2 missiles fired, then last occasion 1 missile fired.

All 5 Exocets were fired, and 2 ships sank.....so hit rate is 40% for Exocet....bad missile grin grin

"Between August and November 1981, five Super Étendards and five Exocets were shipped to Argentina. All five of the missiles were used during the conflict, with one missile hitting the British destroyer HMS Sheffield and two the merchant aircraft transporter Atlantic Conveyor. Two missiles were used in each of those attacks."

http://www.airforceworld.com/attacker/eng/super_etendard.htm

The war history you are shouting about is beyond your low brain level, so I have educated you again as usual my school boy Patrick grin grin

I own you Patches, ALL your arguments about sea warfare are hereby destroyed because you know NOTHING about naval battle in the oceans.

Yes, I own you Patches, Nigerian OPVs will sink ALL South African Frigates in minutes of battle !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:48pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
1. What missiles will the F-7 use? How will it attack the valour class?
2. In combat a Valour Class carries over 30 SAM's

How will your OPV sink a Valour class?
Official data says Valour frigate carries only 16 SAMs, show proof that Germany has rewired the ship for 32 missiles and that SAN has purchased extra missiles into those empty silos. SAN and SAAF are living legends of missile shortages for aircraft and ships grin grin

F-7 will use air to ground long range rocket pods.....Most British ships lost in Falklands were not hit by missiles, it was unguided bombs.

F-7 will sink the Valour frigate in minutes
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:44pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
You said it would defeat ALL missiles

ALL = 100%

So are you now saying it is not 100% effective?
ALL = ALL.

English is not equal to Maths.

ALL does not mean 100%.

You have 13 Exocets, we will defeat them with decoys, but if you have 100 Exocets maybe you can do saturation and overwhelm the system, maybe, just maybe.

ALL does not mean 100 missiles in my statement, my ALL means your 13 missiles, even if it's 17 missiles, we defeat ALL
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:38pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

I took the economical speed from the Isrealy strike craft it is based on (and uses the same engines as)
Citation needed now ! Post citation for definition of Warrior class economic speed !

I don't want Israeli ship, I want the South African version, they are not the same, yours was modified.

Post source of economic speed now !!!!!!!!!

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:22pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Nigerian army is completely lacking training, proven by the fact that you hired South African mercenaries to train you
PMC is not mercenary. It's a company.

Nigerian COIN troops has 5,000 men trained in Russia from 2014, and many thousands trained in Pakistan, Israel, and China.

Every Nigerian soldiers has his basic training and advanced training in Nigerian NDA Kaduna academy.

Russia trained 5,000 Nigerian COIN troops, yet Russia did not claim to have defeated Boko Haram, South African PMC trained 120 troops....

Then you say you won the war....what of Russia that trained 5,000 Nigerian troops ?

See our Naija troops in Pakistan and Russia COIN training 2014....Olodo domingo grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:16pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Useless F-7s and Hinds flown by mercenaries ?

Impressive
Yes, a living dog is better than a dead Lion says my Bible
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:13pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Project ends in 2017

Meaning systems are being completed now

I dont think you know what VSHORAD is or the role it plays

Really? What CRAM systems do Algeria and Egypt have? Inform me
Use google, or are you a born fool ? A fool that says Hind helicopter takes off on desert sand without raising any dust. Mumu Southie grin grin

Algeria has Pantsir CRAM and Egypt has Skyguard and Patriot. Fool grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:01pm On May 30, 2015
MikeCZAR:
SA navy through Israel bought the 76mm super rapid naval guns to equip the warrior class missile boats.
Citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59pm On May 30, 2015
MikeCZAR:
The first phase included the putting in place the command and control system for the GBADS.


The Skyshield, Umkhonto and everything else will be integrated into C2 system.
By year 2020 or later !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:58pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
A navy with 4 missile armed frigates and 3 subs is "over-rated"

What does that make your navy?
Under-rated silent killer !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On May 30, 2015
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Patchesagain:
I am not saying that it wont defeat a missile
Patches finally admits that Nigerian P18N OPV decoy will defeat South African Valour frigate !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:55pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
You must be if you think that a 50 year old warship is in the same class as a modern FFG
You were busy since yesterday comparing a 1970s Warrior class boat with a 2014 computerized stealth OPV that carries helicopter grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:53pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
You said so on beegugugugg's blog

It has been posted here many times
Prove it is me, prove it...you have behind the scene ID of people on internet forums ? Prove it.

Post my surname and his own so we can compare
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:39pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Prove how many exocets SAN has fired.

Until you do - SAN has 17.

Unless your decoy dispenser is 100% effective your OPV will be sunk.

So, if your one OPV stands a chance against to fully armed Valour Class frigates you must prove 100% decoy efficiency
Your Southie friends said SAN has tested Exocet on 4 frigates, so you fired four. They boasted here about your training grin grin

You now say South Africa has NO missile test firing experience at sea ?

#Trap....How many Exocets do you have now ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:37pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
And we have stealth frigates with 17 missiles

Your OPV doesnt stand a chance.

Now - unless the decoy dispencer is 100% effective against up 17 threats, your OPV does not stand a chance

So, provide proof please
SAN has test fired 4 Exocets, so you have 13 left according to Andrewza your navy man.

Nigeria has OPV anti-missile decoys to waste all your missiles
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:36pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
- i said the hind cannot hover in combat
- you said scorpion maneuver is usefull for fighter jets in combat. Why is a backflip now not usefull?
- advanced combat maneuvers are used to avoid enemy ground fire and move quickly from firing position to firing position
- Hind M is incapable of NOE flight, hence, it is taking off.
All talk and no proof.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:34pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
War history? Falklands war where 3 out of 5 of the Argentine missiles hit ships, sinking 2 and damaging one. Same war where you said Chaff defeats exocet!!
That tells you that NOT ALL the British ships had decoy or used their decoys. The ships that used their decoys defeated Exocet missile.

That is from a source, British navy, not me. Your own 60% rate is from you not a technical source.

Show me real source with tech specs....5 Exocets fired, 2 ships sank....LOL...me too can say hit rate is 2/5 = 40 % grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:27pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
War history is the source

Argentina had 5 exocet

3 hit targets

2 sunk ships

1 damaged a ship so badly it was taken out of action.

3/5 = 60%

War history proves it!!
War history did not say 60%, you joggled the figures by your own opinion. Like you said a helicopter taking off in desert sand raises no dust !

Hit rate on target is NOT calculated by people like you, it is done by equipment manufacturer on specs datasheet for user appraisal.

Post me a source from Exocet manufacturer for it's hit probability.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:23pm On May 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
I have made no claims about the effectiveness of the Valour class ASM/SSM defence
Yes you did, you said they have a 60% hit ratio and you gave no source to prove it grin grin
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