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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
Just like no warships can be found in the Nigerian Navy
OPVs are warships, just not missile armed.

NNS Aradu is a missile frigate in reserve.

Nigeria does not need our Frigate to sink enemy Frigates, our P18N OPV is enough. Anti-missile counter-measures and superior gun firepower gives Nigerian OPVs superiority over South African Frigates.

Did I shock every South African with these anti-missile systems on NNS Centenary ? Yes !

It will be your new nightmare on Nairaland !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
Your chaff dispensers are 100% effective?

you don't have a navy

Fact
Your anti-ship missiles are 100% effective? No !

NNS Centenary has anti-missile decoy launchers, ANTI-anti-ship missile counter measures that are specially built for protecting modern frigates/destroyer warships against enemy missiles in high threat naval sea combat theatres.

The Nigerian P18N OPVs will defeat ALL the few Exocet missiles on South African Valour Frigates, the combat will turn to gun battle at sea, and Nigerian OPV 76mm guns are more sophisticated and have longer range superior to the older guns/shorter range of the Valour frigates.

Nigeria will use OPVs to sink ALL South African frigates ! FACT !

https://y1.ifengimg.com/79149b265eb1d598/2013/0227/rdn_512d7ed13a382.jpg
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:18am On May 29, 2015
Patchesagain:
No African warship is as old
The South African navy minesweepers are aged 60 years, 10 years older than NNS Thunder grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16am On May 29, 2015
Patchesagain:
0 Friagtes
0 Subs

0 warships = Coat Guard
All navies around the world today are doing coast guard job.....no sea wars, only piracy

Meanwhile, Anti-missile counter-measures and superior gun firepower gives Nigerian OPVs superiority over South African Frigates.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15am On May 29, 2015
Patchesagain:
What is the range of your OPV?
You claimed the P18N range is 2,000 miles. Show us your source, or you just created the figures from your shiiit hole bum ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:13am On May 29, 2015
Patchesagain:
As reserve platforms

They were never used......
......Because SAN was stupiid enough to buy rotten 60 year old warships that cannot sail, some have become spare parts cannibalized.

Foolish Soweto navy purchasing department, ripped off again by white masters in Europe in minesweeper raw deal tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07am On May 29, 2015
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Patchesagain:
You are the one who cannot prove that Nigerian OPV has a longer range
Nope, you made the first claim that Warrior OPV has longer range, double range of P18N.


patches689:
Regardless of the size of your opv it's range will have to more than double to meet that of the warrior class

Warrior class is a better opv in terms of range
So, you started it, you made claim with no citation.

Now, show us citation for the range of P18N 2,000 miles and Warrior class 4,000 miles.

Prove it, or else all your Cape Colony people will become my intellectual slaves, I have defeated your entire homeland tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02am On May 29, 2015
Patchesagain:
Same vessel

This is awesome, I dont even have to write anything and you humiliate yourself through the demonstration of your complete lack of knowladge
You are the one with lack of knowledge of sea warfare.

The Warrior class strike craft (ex Minister class) in service with the South African Navy are modified Sa'ar IV (Reshef class) fast attack craft. Yours have been modified to have different specifications, so show us the data for South African variant, show us your range !

Show me a source that says SAN Warrior class is EXACTLY the same as Israeli navy Saar class.

Then show me the data for South African Warrior class, show us how you got range of 4,000 miles.

If you don't prove your claim, then you are forever Patches the anointed fraudster ! Thief ! Fraud !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
MikeCZAR:
Practice target for a single frigate!

Come back when you have a real sea fighting capability both surface and sub-surface.
When did you last see ship vs ship combat in Africa or in this world? Over 30 years ago.

The only active sea threat today worldwide is piracy, OPVs are reigning.

Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Kenya, are all hunting for OPV to safeguard their oceans.

Frigates and submarines have become little use since 30 years ago.

Anyway, your Soweto frigates have only about a dozen anti-ship missiles, and there are anti-antiship missile decoy launchers counter measures on Nigerian navy OPVs for self defence against enemy missiles.

So, once we waste your missiles, we will turn it into a gun battle at sea, and Nigerian OPVs have superior gun firepower over the South African navy frigates.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:13am On May 29, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Your sailors will eat mermaids and sea monsters?
Lot's of food and drinks inside NNS Thunder, enough to last for many weeks.

Long Endurance OPV is bigger than a house, food plenty, drink yourself drunk, life is sweet on NNS Thunder marathon voyage around Africa.

No ship in South African navy has that long endurance capacity.

Envy will rooooast you tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:09pm On May 28, 2015
jln115:
Hahah when did you whip my azz bro? I know your very delusional at times but fvck mate is getting bad!!

Anyway heres the official SAN website with the specs on our Warrior class OPVs:

As you can see they have a rang of over 3200Nm
I want to be lenient with you, I know you are not in defense industry, so I have to take it easy on you. It's not easy to know military stuff if you have not been involved with it for many years in one way or the other.

The photo-screen shot you posted is NOT Warrior class OPV, it's a T-Craft IPV, so the data is wrong since the boat is wrong.

Never mind dude, just relax and watch me and Patches play this game. I have him trapped by his own words, he enjoys making fraudulent claims and I will rub h.is face in thick muddy mud.

Don't try rescue him, it's not worth it. Patches knows next to nothing about sea warfare, so I am gonna t.orment him as usual.

Stay out of it like a gentle man, why should your nose bleed for a punch I am throwing at Patches?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:58pm On May 28, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Nigeria has:


0 Frigates.
0 submarines.

Come back when you have something.
South Africa has:

0 Long Endurance OPV
0 Stealth IPV
0 Stealth MPV
0 Stealth OPV
0 High speed ocean interceptor

Come back when you have something.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:55pm On May 28, 2015
jln115:
The Reshef and Warrior class are basically identical, except our Warrior class boats dont carry missiles anymore.
You come again, jump into other peoples arguments, get trapped in the process.....needs lies/fraud to escape self-trap.

The Chinese Type 056 has 2,000 nm range, the Thailand Type 056 has about 3,000 nm range, same class, different specs.

Now be careful what you say, so I don't whip your azz again with horse-whip till you bleed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:52pm On May 28, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Your sailors will eat mermaids along the way?
Nigerian OPVs are LONG-ENDURANCE deep offshore high sea OPVs, nothing with that super capability can be found in South African navy tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:50pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Why wouldent we then just ask the Americans for one of your second hand 50 year old vessels

SAN does it right - when we buy, we buy big, and first hand.

This peasant, thinking 50 year old vessels impress anyone
South African navy purchased 60 year old minesweeper warships second hand from German navy tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:47pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Is range the only measure of a vessel?
You are the one boasting about South African Warrior patrol boat having imaginary longer range than Nigerian stealth OPV
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:45pm On May 28, 2015
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Patchesagain:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/reshef-specs.htm
Are you maaad ? We ask for South African navy warrior class data, you posted Reshef Sa'ar 4 missile boat developed and built for Israel Navy.

Post source of your 4,000 mile range for SAN Warrior class patrol boat !

# Patches Defeated....Posts Israeli navy boat....Fraudster !

Am gonna t.orment Patches today o !

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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 5:01pm On May 28, 2015
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:36pm On May 28, 2015
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patches689:
Range of warrior class: 4000 miles

Type 056 OPV: 2000 miles

Fact.
That is fact? Prove it?

Citation needed for range 4,000 miles on SAN Warrior class patrol boat !

Show us source !

I can bet that Warrior boat endurance at sea is just about half of the Type 056 OPV

Show us proof of range on Warrior class !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
We know the range for your class of ship
Patchesagain:
Regardless of the size of your opv it's range will have to more than double to meet that of the warrior class

Warrior class is a better opv in terms of range
Patchesagain:
You want me to educate you on your own vessels?
Yes, you know the P18N range, so tell us with source !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:19pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Your 50 year old warships impress no one
They have the longest range in Africa and modernized through the Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization (FRAM) program 1992 by USA

Anything in South African navy to match that in patrol?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:13pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Your 50 year old warships impress no one
SAN is so impressed you want an OPV desperately on project sick-biro
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:12pm On May 28, 2015
FighterPilot:
Nigeria does not have the capacity to build her own warship other than through foreign sponsors.
Did South Africa build her navy's stealth Valour Frigate ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:10pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
The Egyptian Government has signed an agreement with Germany for the procurement of two Howaldtswerke-Deutche Werft (HDW)-built SSK Manthatisi-class Type-209 submarines aimed at boosting its naval fleet capability, Egypt's Naval commander Osama Ahmed el-Gendy has announced.
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsgermany-deliver-two-type-209-submarines-egypt

The Manthatisi-class is the latest of the Type 209/1400 classes you chucklefuck

Get that into your goddamn head.
Your old Type 209 has NO ANTI-SHIP MISSILES.....Egypt has the latest version and has missiles....

Get that into your plum shaped head....Olodo....your SAN sub is out-dated.

Egypt is buying 2012-2016 latest technology, that is the clause in the contract, "order for latest technology 2012-2016."

SAS Manthatisi is a year 2004 submarine.....10 years ago technology is NOT the latest technology. Olodo !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:05pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

The 20mm on the Shaldag is listed as being the Typhoon Weapon System

The 20mm on the Drakensburg are listed as just 20mm Oerlekon

I am not wasting anymore time with this.

We all know that they are manually operated, I have shown you pictures as well.

If you want to argue for the sake of arguing, go ahead. I am not going to waste my time with pointless arguments.
I need proof of 20mm gun specs for SAS Drakensberg, prove to us that it is only manually controlled.....or you just made claims with ZERO proof ?

# Defeated Totally
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:03pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
You illiterate

You are unable to comprehend the most basic of sources

The source explains the designed usage of our fleet - a usage that the fleet has maintained.

The only times it failed to do so was when 2 subs were in dry-dock (after the crash) and most recently when the Amatola was undergoing sea-trials post refit and was thus not considered operationally ready.

Dude, I am starting to lose interest in this thread. This is becoming pointless.
....because you are being b.eaten up blue black....SAAF sh.ot down, SAN sank, SANDF wrecked, yes enough to make you run away from this thread....LOL..... # South Africa Defeated On Nairaland grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:55pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
We know the range for your class of ship

Unless you can prove otherwise

The range of that class stands
There is NO other ship in that class with the size of P18N.....show us one I dare you !

The closest is Thai navy Type 056 OPV with range 3,500 nautical miles, not the 2,000 nm you claim you liar !

P18N is 1,800 tons. Thai ship is 1,300 tons. Tells you range difference.

You are the one claiming Nigerian P18N has less range than Warrior boat, so show us the source of your P18N data , are you afraid ?

#Self Trap grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:52pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Why would we envy a 50 year old vessel that cannot fight in naval combat?

Our Warrior class outrage your new Chinese OPV's and Valour class has enough range for the duties that we have assigned to it.

We built a NAVY

Now we are building a Maritime Security force

You built a COAST GUARD

Now you are... o wait... your not building a navy
OPV is for patrol NOT naval combat, if they are useless, why is SAN crying tears for project biro as you soweto navy struggles to buy 1 OPV in 23 years of jinx and disappointment?

Now post source of Nigeria's P18N range as you claim it's less than your tiny toy boat Warrior class.

The longest range warship in Africa belongs to Nigeria, NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana, ALL South African warships including Warrior boat, Valour Frigate, SAS Drakensberg, and Submarines CANNOT, I mean CANNOT match the range of our two ships .

Today, NN out-ranges SAN at sea. Live with it !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:48pm On May 28, 2015
patches689:
Regardless of the size of your opv it's range will have to more than double to meet that of the warrior class

Warrior class is a better opv in terms of range
Show us citation to prove the range of P18N is less than Warrior class.

Show us proof ! Liar !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:45pm On May 28, 2015
EVarn:
I thought you once claimed that OPVs are for weak and small navies,Now when it comes to 'Project Biro',OPVs have suddenly become vessels of national prestige?.
You are going to build OPVs by 2018?
rather unbelievable.
The Southies envy Nigerian OPVs, imagine, our OPVs can sail around Africa without refueling, but expensive Frigates of Soweto CANNOT try it !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:38pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

That 2013 report explains the operational model in which the SAN operates its frigates.

Currently 2 frigates are operational as well as 2 submarines.

The 3rd frigate is used for training, the 3rd sub and 4th frigate are in refit.

Fact, fact, fact.
2015 citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:37pm On May 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Look at the name of the weapon: "20mm Oerlikon"

Look at the caption of the picture: "A Gunner operating a 20mm Oerlikon"
http://www.navy.mil.za/SANCareers/weapons_operator.htm

Look at the armament of the Drakensburg "4× Oerlikon 20 mm cannon"

Unless you are saying that ALL 20mm Oerlikon in service with the SAN are actually CIWS... which is fine by me grin grin grin
Radar controls the 20mm cannon on Shaldag gunboat, does that make it a CIWS ?

Now your source DOES NOT say the gunner is on Drakensberg, I need proof of 20mm gun specs for SAS Drakensberg, prove to us that it is only manually controlled.....or you just made claims with ZERO proof ?

#Trapped
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