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patches689:
Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

[size=20pt]Now your job is simple:

1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago
2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has.

OMG, this Patches guy is hilarious?

What is new on that list? 99% of all that stuff has been existing on aircraft about 30 years ago....

VHF and UHF transmission, old school Doppler Radar, FLIR, AM and FM radio....what? What da fvck are you writing on that shiity long list ?

FVCK . LOL.....Fvck !

You have a long garbage list you think will deceive people here? FAIL !

The only modern thing is Top Owl Helmet sight and that is used for the NOE flight.....it failed, the Rooivalk crashed in broad daylight, the sights failed to sight anything o !

FAIL ! Rooivalk is obsolete 30 years technology
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patches689:
Yet we have shown bomb falls at around 100kmph

Shilka cannot target something as small as a bomb without smart munitions

No - 16 roland launchers with 2 missiles (16X2 = 32). That means that they can easily by overwhelmed by saturation attack

SANDF CRAM is entering service as we speak

Case was never open - you were talking sh1t as usual

Shilka has 4 barrels and are radar guided to pin point target, even if the target is speeding 1,000 km/h like Hawk jet.

SANDF does NOT have any CRAM anti-missile defence as at today 2015, the project is slowed down by lack of funds, and the target date of 2017 will be further delayed.

SANDF has NO SINGLE CRAM defence today. FACT !

Nigeria has 16 Roland launchers, 2 missiles load each, 8 more missiles inside cabin with rapid automatic reload in 10 seconds.

10 missiles x 16 launchers = 160 missiles.....SAAF will die in seconds
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patches689:
And yet again you have shifted the argument

Warrior class has a 4000 mile range, your Type 056 has only a 2000 mile range

Warrior class outranges your OPV

Lol

Bwahahahaha .LOL.

@Patches is does not know naval warfare, he thinks Type 056 frigate 1,300 tons ship has the same range with Nigeria's long endurance OPV of 1,800 tons. LOL....an OPV of same size as a frigate will have longer range because they are built for long patrol. The 2,000 mile is for light frigate, the OPV version for Thailands navy is 3,500 nautical mile range.

Yet Nigeria's F-91 NNS Centenary is far bigger, we have 1,800 tons not the 1,300 ton of Thailand that has range 3,500 nautical miles.

Nigerian OPV range is far far and far far far beyond range of your Soweto tiny tea-pot floating on bath tub water Warrior Class Strike craft MPV that you are falsely calling OPV.

Look at this dude comparing an ancient rust metal tin can SAN 1970s gunboat with a NN 2014 stealth OPV that all full digital navionics, you don't know how many billion dollars Nigeria invested in patrol forces at sea? It's our navy's strength and your navy's weakness.

Now stop this hilarious and humiliating comparison so your national pride does not get hurt in Pretoria, only Nigerian navy can use one warship to sail around Africa on one fuel tank without stopping to refuel on the way. We rule Africa in naval range.
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[size=20pt]South Africa bribed FIFA $10 million to host 2010 World Cup[/size]

Arrests now made in Sweden as requested by USA, world level corruption championed by South Africa.

I wonder how this Southies don't get ranked correctly in corruption index, Gripen jet bribe, this bribe, that bribe, FIFA world cup bribe, wow !

Hope South Africa is not bribing those who rank global corruption to keep them off the top level.

Rotten 3rd world South Africa.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/27/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-live
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saengine:
Can you see how useless your brain is. A picture is a picture is a picture. Beegeagle source or BBC source. It's a picture, not an article.

Again, you are out of your intellectual depth. Just like the air pressure argument, this is not for you. You will be demolished.

Ships are built in pre-fabricated modules and welded together. Do you know what that means? It means each pre-fabricated module must have it's fittings, electronics, cables in places before they place them together for final welding. Once modules are placed together, then you can strip connections, re-wire, changes pipes and valves etc in a later mid-life re-fit. Or you think an empty shell will arrive in Nigeria, and some Ogugubugu will crawl around the ship fitting electrical cables?

You think you're only looking at a metal hull and engine in the second picture? What engine control system is controlling the engine from the bridge? Or they sail it to Nigeria just hoping nothing goes wrong? The captain knows his engine RPM, power output, efficiency at all time. Meaning engine control software is installed. Meaning systems monitoring pressure, temperature etc are installed. Communication mast is installed. Navigation systems are operating (or they used the stars to navigate from China to Cape Town, then Cape Town to Nigeria?)

You are out of your intellectual depth. Simple

While I'm at it....tell us why airliners are pressurized at high altitude.

Nigeria got NOTHING/ZERO anywhere close to "50-70%" of anything.

You quote the people on Beegeagle and you claim that Augustine is the same one on Nairaland, you post his claims about South African navy Vs Nigerian navy as facts according to you, you also post his comments about Roland missiles as facts, those are not photos, they are peoples' comments, yet you want us to ignore the comments made by Col.Eben Barlow on the same Beegeeagle blog because it does not favour you, so you claim it's same Augustine but not same Col.Eben Barlow.....Beegeeagle is right only when you South Africans say so, right? LOL...LOL.

You guys have officially made Beegeeagle an accepted source on Nairaland. South Africans cannot continue copying and pasting comments from Beegeeagle here, and reject comments from same Beegeagle when quoted by Nigerians. We will both use Beegeagle as valid source from now on....Equation balanced.

First, you need to show us the interior of the ship to proof your fairy tale that the ship is ready to sail. LOL.

You need to prove that all the control room is fully built and prove that the ship is sailing on it's own NOT TUGGED by another ship to Nigeria, prove it, since you are the captain of the F92 ship, and you are in charge of the imaginary control room fully built by you. LOL.

Show us the control room built and ready. LOL....I dare you to show us.

You live in 3rd world country that you claim is equal to Europe. LOL.

What do you know about ship construction? You have not seen modular ships before? You can piece a modular ship together for sailing China to Nigeria, then the ship gets to Nigeria and is dis-assembled again to re-modularize parts and electronics, even the structures on the deck are modular design, you can take them apart in Nigeria to fit or refit parts in line with construction agreements.

LOL.....This Soweto guy thinks a modern MODULAR ship is built like with concrete-cement and is permanently fixed like his house. LOL.

That is how far your 2nd bottom of the world South African brain can think in . LOL...LOL...LOL.

South Africa will NEVER build 2% of a stealth warship until year 2050.

Agreement is 50%-70 % built in Nigeria, no breech of agreement has been reported. You need to prove a breech of agreement....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-18300358
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saengine:
Second F92 - still in China

https://www.militaryparitet.com/editor/assets/new/files2/comparing.png

There is no "Nigerian 70%". The Chinese played these f00ls like kids.

50% to 70%.

Have you entered inside the F92 ship to see if the navionics are installed? Electrical, electronics, sensors, fittings, etc? Show us the inside !

A ship is only about half complete with a metal hull and engine, what of the interior? Else, the ship is a carcass . LOL.

Envy is your problem.

Then hey, your photo is from Beegeagle, shall we begin to use Beegeagle as a source on this forum, seems you South Africans want monopoly of being the only ones who use Beegeeagle as source when it pleases your agenda.

Your photo is from, give him credit for it

Beegeagle https://beegeagle./2015/01/11/the-nigerian-navys-second-p18n-stealth-offshore-patrol-vessel-nns-unity-f92/

We Nigerians too want to start using Beegeagle as a source here, including all the comments from Col.Eben Barlow
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[size=16pt]Universal Soldier....Nigerian Army !

Battle tested commando !

Terminator & Eliminator.[/size]

Nigerian troops, Africa's most battle tested Army today.....not just mouth talking on internet....we believe in real life combat !

Nigerian army, real smoke and fire from real war.....not demo photography.

NAF, Real pilots in real war, not demo !

FighterPilot:
[size=16]Did you know that Gripen's avionics, subsystems and power unit were proudly designed andanufactured by SA company.

Gripen, half South African fighter jet.[/size]


http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/206/-avitronics-wins-ericsson-saab-avionics-export-contract-for-gripen.html

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Bwhahaahahaa. LOL.

According to your own source, South Africa is manufacturing tiny battery to light up the screen lights for display of data, like the screen of a lap top computer, battery for the light/power for viewing displays on the monitor. LOL

"The agreement will see Avitronics develop and manufacture a new power unit for the Gripen's display system supplied by Ericsson Saab Avionics. "

South Africa is making some tiny batteries, like the ones that power up Nokia phone screen for us to see the text messages we are typing. LOL.

Congrats on your tiny battery. LOL.

How does that become a major component to make the Gripen a Half South African product?

Even Italy that makes the radar is not claiming part-ownership of Gripen.

Olodo . LOL.
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saengine:
Nigeria built no sophisticated stealth war ship. Do not spew your lies here. China buit that 1st ship and sailed it to Nigeria. The 2nd stealth ship is almost fully built in China. Pics have been posted.

You said SA DOES NOT produce any major parts for Airbus and Gripen. Those pics i posted where a nice bloody nose for you. Enjoy.

http://www.denelaerostructures.com/album/Clients/52

Why should I have a bloody nose because Denel welding shop joins small metal pieces together for tiny parts of an aircraft, what advanced electronic components are inside metal flat sheets welded by a welder? LOL.

Your source says NOTHING connecting those photos with Denel factory, it only says the same old general statements, Denel joins wires, cables, and cardboard sheets together for a small part of the Airbus AM400, so what? Kiddies project. LOL.

Did Denel manufacture Airbus engine components or cockpit electronic sensors? No.

Well BBC and Defenceweb says Nigeria is building 50% to 70% of the sophisticated P18N Stealth warship, first of such feat in Africa. Sure to get the ship to Nigeria partially built, the Chinese have to construct the hull, or else how does it sail on the ocean from China to Nigeria, you M0RON !!

Go quarrel with the sources about the 50% - 70% construction in Nigeria, your headache not mine..... I can see your nose bleeding from a head butt blow.
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saengine:
Gripen rear fuselage. Made in SA. Major component
Gripen weapons pylon. Made in SA.
Over 600 Gripen main landing gear delivered. Made in SA. Major component.

All in all. Major fail for the researcher.

Nope, you failed to prove those photos are actually Gripen jet parts. The source posted by the other Southie guy says electrical parts not airframes, how is that my problem? I am not the one doing research here, it's actually you South Africans making research and failing at it.....same way NO SINGLE SOUTH AFRICAN IS CAPABLE TO RESEARCH AND TELL US THE RANGE OF GRIPEN RADAR IN GROUND SEARCH MODE, fools cannot research into their own Soweto weapons, they are stylishly begging we Nigerians to do it for them.

By the way, pylon is not a major component of Gripen, it's just pieces of metal cut in shape and welded up.

Okay, you now advertise South African welding and cutting of small metal pieces as MAJOR AIRCRAFT PARTS MANUFACTURING.

Congrats, you have a welders shop
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saengine:
Pieces of cardboard and paint? Maybe if Nigeria was asked to manufacture. Denel produces parts which are structurally important to the Airbus A400M. If those parts fail...the plane crashes. Fail...again! Go swim in your jealousy.

Jealously? Nope. Envy? Nope.

Nigeria manufactures airframe parts/electrical parts for Alpha jets and Mi-35 helicopters. Each country does its own thing, so why envy you, does South Africa build sophisticated stealth warships like Nigeria?

Your source is NO source, you just posted photos of body parts of aircraft, nothing to prove South Africa makes those parts in the photo. Your argument remains crippled until proved
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Henry120:
South-Africans are obsessed with Nigerian D1cks..... LOL ...... I mean WTF!!!!!


One could almost have imagined President Jacob Zuma saying to the other African countries (Nigeria especially), “We’re the only country on the continent to build our own bad-ass ships. We’re the only country on the continent that can deploy soldiers and support aircraft anywhere on the continent. So who is your daddy?”

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWL_NjPRY8o

South Africa uses Nigeria as it's own measuring standards
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Henry120:
Why are you South-Africans obsessed with Nigerian C0cks?

.....because it's only C0ck bigger than theirs

FighterPilot:
In one year six months from today, denel will announce the resuscitation of the production of the new Rooivalk. The new gunship which will sweep the world by storm. Denel is currently researching about the best electronic warfare never seen before in the world to be possibly integrated on this system.

This time around Denel will succeed and shall not fail.

[size=13pt]South African air force pilot admits that DENEL Rooivalk helicopter is a FAILURE magnet
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FighterPilot:
Bwahahahahaha… oh my stomach will kill me.

South Africa is the champion of avionics in the world, even our gripen' s were proudly integrated with South African made electronic hardwares. SA companies win tenders every year to fit foreigners sorties with SA made avionics. Why would we let the French do that for us.

SA avitronics fit the British gripens with SA proudly made avionics

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=131117

That's a lie. The Rooivalk electronic avionics and weapons system are all proudly South African and that's why Denel has the right of ownership. Don't let jealousy to cloud your sound judgement.

Man, don't take SA cheap and try to compare it with Nigeria that only start to experience the world of manufacturing now. SA has years of technological developments and is just far from Nigeria in terms of technology. We have over hundred defence companies.

South Africa is manufacturing electronic wires and cables, common diodes and connectors that University students play with in laboratory, you did not make any major component of the Gripen jet. You are just making wires and cables. LOL. Same war you guys were trying to scam us here claiming to have manufactured components for Airbus AM400 transport aircraft but by the time we saw the list of components, it was like pieces of cardboard and paint. LOL.

Scammers, desperados...Southies LOL
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FighterPilot:
I am not interested in the distance or the place since I don't know Nigeria. All I wanted to highlight was the attack, proving that BH is still alive and kicking.

Islamic terrorists are still alive and kicking in America since September 11, 2001. Algerian terrorists still attack and run.

So, what's your dummy head thinking?

jln115:
1. T84 is just an upgraded t80
2. Stop posting forums as your source, otherwise ill start using Nairaland as a source.
3. Your source said nothing about Nigeria receiving T80s/T84s

I have figured out why the Bible says "SILENCE IS THE BEST ANSWER FOR A FOOL"....BOOK OF PROVERBS.

Now I know how to treat you.

jln115:
1. Forum
2. Blog
3. Link doesn't work.

Thus not a single source that Nigeria received any T80s(BTW the T84 is a T80)

T-84 is NOT T-80, I just educated you earlier, are you a He-Goat ?

Forum and Blog quote the Ukrainian website which is NOT a blog. The story was posted all over the world, with the photos of the tanks at the airport, confirmed heading to Nigeria.

"While Ukrainian soldiers in the ATO area are in dire need of arms and military equipment, Ukraine is going to send to Nigeria two advanced battle tanks "Oplot", made in the Ukrainian Malyshev Plant in Kharkiv.

Oleh Tytarenko, a lawyer and a member of the Shevchenko district (Kyiv) local defense informed about this, Censor.NET reports."

He said that the tanks were supposed to fly to Nigeria yesterday, but due to problems with a Ruslan plane, the flight was delayed. According to Titarenko, this fact has caused a storm of indignation among the workers of the Antonov plant (at this time the tanks are at the plant's airport in Hostomel). The information on combat vehicles sending to Nigeria got leaked to the political circles that's why the tanks are still in Ukraine."

http://defence.pk/threads/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria.334850/

The website is down, probably because the lawyer is fighting Ukrainian government for selling T-84 Oplot tanks to Nigeria.

Last year the website was working and we all read it here, South Africans and Nigerians all read it and confirmed it befaore you came with your He-Goat brain

jln115:
1. The T84 is just an upgraded T80 you stpd fvck, and just because they were at an airport doesn't mean they are being sent to Nigeria
2. Defenceweb said NAF was INTERESTED in the Super Tucano, you just rushed to the conclusion that NAF will buy the Tucano
3. Nope you claimed the Nigerian army had the FH77 BW

Yes Nigeria has Bofors FH-77B, it's on SIPRI and even Patches cannot deny it on SIPRI database. Argument was 39 cal or 52 cal. Stop arguing about matters that you know nothing about, you jump into other peoples' argument you makes you look like a brainless He-Goat.

T-84 is NOT an upgraded T-80. Learn to admit when you are wrong, e.g. SAAF Gripen has NO air to ground missiles even if a source says so, I corrected you, yet you keep refusing to agree you are wrong, have you ever seen Andrewza or Patches say SAAF has air to ground missile on Gripen jet? Learn to admit when you are clearly very wrong, you are the dumbest white man I have encountered in the last 12 months

T-84 is Oplot, T-80 is not. T-84 has different engine and self defence mech in made in Ukraine.

Learn to learn, or else you will fail accounting, it's got principles called principles of accounting, if you refuse to agree to those principle, your career in accounting will end in your first semester, they will transfer you to Theatre Arts department in another faculty
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jln115:
You are just to fvcking stup1d to read, Defenceweb said Nigeria was INTERESTED in buying the Tucano, never did they say NAF WILL buy the Super Tucano, the Nigerian education system has failed you again.

Seems your brain gets stuck at each point I educate you, once I stop educating you, your brain freezes on that spot

Hey goat, your South African defenceweb went further to say there was report of sighting the Super Tucano in Nigerian air force base, that was after the INTEREST story, you are lost in a village and starved of international news in your cage

"There have been rumours that the Nigerian Air Force has taken delivery of Super Tucano light attack/trainer aircraft from Embraer. Apparently two were seen at Makurdi late last month, according to the Beegeagle blog. In November last year Nigerian Vice President Namadi Sambo expressed interest in purchasing the Super Tucano during a meeting with his Brazilian counterpart Michel Temer."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34330

That was the time of evaluation-test flight inside Nigeria before the purchase was cancelled, even your defenceweb published it.

Learn to google, He-Goat

DieVluit:
You mean 2 hours of controlled cuts that are targeted roll-outs? Nigerians are lucky to get 2 hours of electricity per day. Besides Medupi comes online soon. Meanwhile, Nigeria's generation capacity is now 1300 MW http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

South Africans live in darkness too, you have African problems like us. Yours has even become a national anthem
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DieVluit:
Surprised Nigerians are still able to post stuff here. They have no electricity and no fuel for their generators. They should take it easy on useless nairaland topics and save their batteries.

South Africans are daily victims of load shedding, your nation lives on candles every night
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mzilakazi:
Paveway is a bomb encapsulated into a rocket body. It is a rocket or bomb. You just call it the way you want. Same as missile, a bomb propelled with engines. That's what it is. They all achieve one purpose of limiting collateral damage to noncombatants because they are guided and paveway is even more advanced in that way because it uses GPS. Hope, you have seen what damage did Nigerian forces have done to your people because of unguided free falling bombs. They bombed the whole place, even civilians.

By the way, what is Nigeria's PGMs, if I may ask?

Nigeria's PGM is AR-1 air to ground guided missile, it is a missile not a bomb like yours.

South Africa has NO SINGLE air to ground missile, your Paveway is nothing but a fvcking bomb, NOT rocket, NOT missile, it is powered by a battery like your mobile phone, it does NOT have a rocket ! Now shuut uup ! Stop telling lies !

"Paveway is a trademark of Raytheon for laser-guided bombs, Paveway kits attach to a thermal battery."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paveway
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mzilakazi:
That's what the picture shows or am I wrong?

Paveway is a PGM, a rocket that has the same properties as missile beside that it is not propelled. Its speed is depended on the speed of the platform.

What is the full name of Paveway PGM? Paveway bomb or Paveway rocket?
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mzilakazi:
Chief I know the difference between AAM and ATGMs.

You don`t know the difference between a missile and a bomb, that`s why you say SAAF Gripen has air to ground missiles
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mzilakazi:
Igirigiri is proudly SA, bwahahaha…

Ikri is proudly Niaija, bwahahhaa...

patches689:
The list of things you nigerians have claimed to be getting is long

And not a single thing has been gotten

T-72 tanks

BVP-1 IFV

RM-70 MRLS

Mi-171 Terminator

Mi-35 Hind E

CH-3A Missile drones

Huey Helicopters

Beryl Rifles

BigFoot MRAPS

American PGM enabled Alpha jets

AR-1 air to surface missiles

Wow, I did not even know the list is this long ! Thanks for asking Patches
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jln115:
Uhm never in your Ukrainian source did it state that Nigeria will receive the T80s

You will graduate from your accounting school with 3rd class degree, that`s your brain capacity.

Nigeria ordered T-84 tanks

http://defence.pk/threads/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria.334850/

https://beegeagle./2014/09/20/nigeria-in-the-hunt-for-advanced-ukrainian-buily-t84-oplot-tanks-first-two-units-spotted-at-an-airport-preparatory-to-being-exported-in-ukraine/

http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo