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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:50pm On Apr 09, 2015
jl115:
"Precision shooting....one man one bullet in the head of heart."

Maybe one day:
Snipers hit M23 targets 2.2km away
http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Snipers-hit-M23-targets-22km-away-20130829-2

SANDF RESERVE FORCE TEAM WINS INTERNATIONAL MILITARYSKILLS COMPETITION
http://www.dod.mil.za/media/media2014/SANDF%20reserve%20force%20team%20wins%20International%20Military%20Skills%20Competition.pdf
SANDF Brigadier General denied the Congo long range sniper kill, so it's a dead argument, SANDF set NO record .

Military sports competition is just shooting sport against a stationary frozen target. Also, it's NOT a war zone.

South African army CANNOT shoot straight in real war zone, your men become jittery with fear and miss target.

Also, SANDF just CANNOT shoot and hït a moving target, Mr. Day is eating supper this night to prove that
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:43pm On Apr 09, 2015
Patchesagain:
How can you say what is under them?

You have x-ray vision??
We said visible pants/trousers. Do people wear sweaters on their legs? Îmbecile grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:39pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
The Pakistanis who can't fight? Also. Known as India's little b..itc..h?

They use the Grifo-7 on the F-16 their front line fighter.
Pakistan will demölish South Africa in war, SANDF won't last 24 hours
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:36pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Gives the Gripen pilot to attack outside your radar angular coverage.
Gives the F-7 pilot advantage to attack from outside Gripen radar angular coverage, by flying 2 km higher than Gripen with superior max altitude advantage of F-7 over the Gripen, then from inside Gripen's radar blind spot F-7 fires 35 km range BVR missiles and demölishes ALL South African Gripen jets then Mandela's investment is wasted in minutes !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:28pm On Apr 09, 2015
Patchesagain:
Enough nuclear explosive to fuel half a dozen bombs, each powerful enough to obliterate central Washington or most of Lower Manhattan, is locked in a former silver vault at a nuclear research center near the South African capital.

Technicians extracted the highly enriched uranium from the apartheid regime’s nuclear weapons in 1990, then melted the fuel down and cast it into ingots. Over the years, some of the cache has been used to make medical isotopes, but a theoretical ability to regain its former status as a nuclear-weapons state.
485 pounds remains, and South Africa is keeping a tight grip on it.

That gives this country — which has insisted that the United States and other world powers destroy their nuclear arsenals — a theoretical ability to regain its former status as a nuclear-weapons state.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/us-unease-about-nuclear-weapons-fuel-takes-aim-at-a-south-african-vault/2015/03/13/b17389f6-2bc1-4515-962d-03c655d0e62d_story.html


You were saying?
I was saying that your own source demölished your argument completely!

Read, I quote your above source. :


"a theoretical ability to regain its former status as a nuclear-weapons state. "


It clearly says South Africa has THEORETICAL ability to make nuclear weapons....theory NOT practical !

Theory is written on paper, makes you a mere PAPER TIGER that can only make nuclear weapons on paper ;P;P;P
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:37pm On Apr 09, 2015
Msauza:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! SOUTH AFRICAS HEU NUCLEAR WEAPON FUEL IS PRESERVED AND CURRENTLY NOT IN USE. IT IS PRESERVED FOR FUTURE USE AND CAN ALWAYS BE ACTIVATED WITH ISOTOPES ANYTIME FOR REACTIVATION AND FILLING.


YOU ARE ILLITERATE WITH ASPECTS OF NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY.
Dundee gringrin

There's big difference between having some half decayed nuclear materials and having a real nuclear weapon that can be deployed in war.

Today, South Africa has NO nuclear weapon to harm any enemy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Apr 09, 2015
Patchesagain:
What you gunna do when your truck is blown up?

Or you get pinned down?


Or you have to go where your truck cannot?

Or if you have to dismount in a rush and counter-attack - how will you conduct a sustained fire fight? Gunna give up your cover to run back to the truck for more mags?

What if a man gets hit? You gunna say "hold on igbo, im just gunna run back to the truck and dig around for the med kit, try not to bleed to death in the meantime"?
3 mags, 5 mags, all will be used up in sustained fire fight, soldiers will still run out of ammo, the key is supply chain for every unit, even battalions on frontline run out of ammunition.

Army field supply chain is more important than extra 2 mags per man. War can last for years, battles can last for months
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:02pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
So why do the americans desperatly want to buy it?

We arent talking weapons

We are talking weapons grade plutonium
Okay, you now admit that South Africa's nuclear weapons have expired. All that remains is the half decayed plutonium, how does your air force fly that to enemy territory for attack, by using Jacob Zuma's V.I.P. luxury aircraft? gringringrin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:42pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
By leaving Sudan you did well?
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Nigeria is still in Sudan.

Nigerian army stopped massive genocidal murder and massive räpe of black civilians in Sudan. The war is Sudan is over, Nigeria stopped it with military muscle and spilled blood of Nigerian soldiers soaked the thirsty dry land of Sudan....while South African army was watching the show on Tv from safe distance in Pretoria city
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:35pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
ECOWAS threatened Sonogo with military action which didn't materialise.

By leaving Sudan you did well?

Seleka was a new government the SANDF had no mandate to be there.
Nigeria had NO mandate to deploy 15,000 troops with tanks, artillery, jet fighters, landing ships and frigates to Liberia and Sierra Leone, Nigeria just did it with $10 billion cash cost to Nigerians , your South Africa will NEVER pay that sacrifice to help any African brother that is suffering.....reason why SANDF ran away from C.A.R and you people give excuse that you have no mandate to save human lives in a helpless and dying African nation.

You Southies won't enter heaven o ! You no fear God one bit !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:08pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
Tankers need and wear special unidforms

Generally their uniforms match, they dont use civilain uniforms... And they have shoes!! Unlike your ragtag force!
Inside our own army base loading heavy tank shells from storage, manual labor inside Northern heat 50 degrees, you want them to wear full kit and get heat stroke? You don't know what war is....SANDF has not used tanks in war for over 20 years, you need Nigeria to school you big time !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:59pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
1 AK-47 and 31 rounds.
Precision shooting....one man one bullet in the head of heart.

It's not like 3 shots with radar guidance still missing a whole big fishing boat of Mr.Day gringrin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:55pm On Apr 09, 2015
Patchesagain:
Cherry picking old photo's doesnt change the facts
You Southies were the ones cherry picking Nigerian soldiers with mixed camo. Just yesterday @bidexii posted hundreds of Nigerian troops wearing exactly the same camo. Nigerian army had several battalions in Mali all with same desert camo, we have repeated those photos here enough.

Next time, know that you don't have monopoly of picking photos from internet, we forced you to learn a big lesson gringrin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:54pm On Apr 09, 2015
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:49pm On Apr 09, 2015
Patchesagain:
Why do you think billions were invested in the development of 360 degree IR veiw for the F35?

Why do you think AWACS exist?
Citation needed for claims on side radar view of every jet fighter in the world !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:46pm On Apr 09, 2015
kikuyu1:
Dude,I rarely check into this place since it became a padded cell of cyberimbecility. When I do check in I always says BH is a Western creation like Al shabab/ISI/ISIL or the so called Al qaeda who kill everyone but JEWS!!



http://karanjazplace..com/2015/04/garissa-attacks-show-anglo-zionists.html

Don't take my word for it.

Begins sunset of Friday, April 3, 2015

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/year/2015/jewish/2015-holidays.htm

Do you think that's mere coincidence??
All we know is that Kenyan army is useless and incompetent, that's why El Shabbab terrorists are killing 147 Kenyan students on a university campus and your useless army cannot prevent the massacre in your own backyard.....your army gets embarrassed at home by ONLY FOUR MEN with AK-47 gringrin

Next time, watch your careless tongue before you critisize Nigerian army, we have won our own war in grand style !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:41pm On Apr 09, 2015
jl115:
I didnt admit anything mate!! You said they have desert camo under their sweaters not me!
Yes you agreed after I opened your cararact blinded eyes you saw the pants/trousers were clearly desert camo.

You don't have to deny yourself because @Patches needs you to tell lies and help him sustain his own lies. Just try and be a little more morally upright in South Africa so that other nations can respect your citizens
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:38pm On Apr 09, 2015
Msauza:
You must go to the doctor and have your head checked. LG, SAMSUNG, SONY are all electronic manufacturers and it does not mean that all of their products are expensive some of their products were designed for poor people who do not have much bigger pockets like NIGERIA.
Pakistan has defense cash in pocket far bigger than South Africa, yet they use about 200 units of same Grifo-7 radar on air force jets.

Brazil , Czech, Italy all use same Grifo-7 radar as Nigerian F-7 jets. All these 3 countries have bigger defense budgets than South Africa.

The poverty we see here is only in South Africa that cannot afford to issue gloves and knee pads to just 3,000 soldiers gringrin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:05pm On Apr 09, 2015
Msauza:
The SANDF uniform will still do well in a desert.
Battle tested armies like America and Britain DO NOT wear dark brownie uniform inside yellow sand desert . Mumu grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51pm On Apr 09, 2015
Msauza:
The Jas 39 Gripen radar which is by far superior than the useless Grifo-7 radar.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS-05/A

The Grifo-7 radar has a weight of 55kg and can only detect objects up to 50km.

The PS-05/A radar has a weight 156kg of and can detect objects up to a whopping 120km.
Gripen has 20 km range missile making the 120 km radar useless.

F-7 has 35 km range missile making the 55 km range radar perfect.

SAAF is dead, k.illed by NAF !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:48pm On Apr 09, 2015
jl115:
"body armour colours different from camo uniform colour"
When did i ever say they have to match their uniform?(Although personally it looks more proffesional)
When i said miss-match i meant soldiers in the same unit wearing different colours of body armour

Pic1: All are wearing the same body armour and uniform, the only difference is some have webbing on and others dont!
Pic2: They look piss poor to be honest,besides that it looks like a training exercise and not a combat zone.
Pic3: Dont know what you are trying to prove here?I never had a problem with different units using different camo, it was the Fact that Nigeria has Soldiers in the same unit with different webbing helmets body armour ect, and the fact that you have 10 different camo patterns.
Pic4: I see nothing wrong here,same webbing,body armour and uniform!
After showing you 5 photos of American troops in war zone with different camo colours and mixed up jackets, I will leave you alone to drink from the bucket of self-delusion water till your tummy is full grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:43pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
No augustus

Not false
Fact.

Sorry that MARPAT, CAPDAT, FELIN and UCP have completely destroyed your agrument

Modern armies use one multi-use cammo
My 5 photos proved you wrong 12 hours ago !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:42pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
Those gloves arent standard issue
Citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:41pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
radar coverage on its sides is also weak - as it is with every single jet fighter in the world

Citation needed for claims on side radar view of every jet fighter in the world !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:39pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
Those photos are over a decade old befor NATO armies started adopting single multi-use cammo

Again you try to mislead us
Those are current NATO troops in Afghanistan....you are just ashamed to see your d.emolished argument grin grin

If Boko Haram war lasted more years, Nigeria too had launched a new standard uniform that combines desert and savanna green...
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:34pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
Who says they have desert cammo under them?

Picture does not support your argument
Even your Southie friend @jn115 that brought the picture has admitted that the sweaters have desert camo under them. You want to be more catholic than the pope himself? Fool !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:31pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
You dont know anything about mobility or logistics. Thats why you think either is relevant in Africa

Doctrine? Your army does not have a cohesive doctrine!!

Ours won us over 35 major battles in a 25 year war where our enemy modern equipment and systems (including amphibious and tracked vehicals)

You have never fought against a well armed and trained enemy. Our war history speaks for itself
SADF history of defeat by tiny Cuba with girl soldier.

SANDF history of defeat by illiterate Seleka farmer rebels.

Nice history for a failure magnet grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:29pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
We raised a 500 000 man army and they were all properly equipped

A single multi-use cammo is the modern military trend that has been adopted by the best militaries in the world, even the russians are trying to do so with gorka
SANDF today has on 50,000 regular troops with almost ZERO war experience, and gets commanded by Tanzania in battle grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:28pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Nope, it was the French who saved Mali cause there was no Leadership in ECOWAS.
Mali is a former colony of France, whom do you expect to save it? Russia?

Did France save Liberia and Sierra Leone or Sudan Dafur?

Nigeria saves the ex-British colonies that welcome us, you don't invade a country with troops and force your army on them if the people don't want you. You this this is 1939 age of German war invasion of sovereign states? Fool !

Anyway, France invited Nigeria to do recce and garrison ops in Mali, NA and NAF did their role well.

What big war has South Africa ever fought to save an African country except sending 2,000 troops to join about 20 countries in Congo under command of a Tanzanian army General leading SANDF in FIB light combat roles....short time war, did not even last one month !

SANDF is crap and untested alone in combat. Your last test with Seleka rebels was your historic failure !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:08pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
1 AK-47 and 31 rounds.
When SANDF grows up and matures to deploy 30,000 troops into one single battle, we will count your bullets/mags per man.

Count Nigerian army bullet rounds per soldier.....and see if the rifles are just AK-47 grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:00pm On Apr 09, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Trash can worthy radar.

Saab offered the Gripen E/F to Brazil competition which will use a AESA radar, it will also have SA made. Parts

The Mk3 was only available from 2005. grin grin grin

The Grifo-7 is really inferior.
Brazil, Czech Republic, Italy all use Grifo-7 radar today. NATO air forces use same Grifo 7 radar as Nigeria.

You better beware of the NAF F-7 jet with NATO standard radar...the all seeing eye !

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2012-03-23/selex-galileo-improves-grifo-radar-new-applications
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:53pm On Apr 09, 2015
patches689:
So why do the americans desperatly want to buy it?
To disarm you of capability of making dirty bombs that just spread radioactive materials like a chemical weapon.

Southie arsenal of nuclear bombs is dead.

You even have NO nuclear compatible aircraft to deliver it in war !

Gripen is NOT nuclear capable. RSA is NOT a nuclear power today, you just have harmful radioactive materials half decayed grin grin
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