₦airaland Forum

jln115:
Firstly how do i know they are in Afghanistan?

And secondly they are in different units:
The SANDF also has different uniforms for different units:

1.MRS
2.SF(in Green)
3.STF

Patchesagain:
Equipment of SANDF and NATO troops side by side

They have the same equipment

Wish i could say the same for your peasant army - people wearing civilian clothes. Mismatched cammo, no communications equipment, no standard webbing, no standard back-pack, no standard weapon

Its pretty obvious that you are desperatly trying to change the topic after getting so badly rap.ed on the issue of F-7 radars

jln115:
So tell me bro, what advantage does wearing gloves give you?

jln115:
Yes thats true!!but you dont see them wearing different uniforms in the same battlefield/terrain!!!

Patchesagain:
Nigerian troops are so poorly equipped that some have to wear bright orange civilian backpacks

Patchesagain:
All you get as a result is units wearing mixmatched cammo and makes it easy for enemy to masquearde as your soldiers.

Our cammo is designed to be effective in all environmental types (see pics)

1. Desert
2. Jungle
3. Savannah

Unlike your cammo which was made on Microsoft Paint, ours is the product of extensive hi-tech studies done by the CSIR with years of research in order to come up with a comprehensive multiple-use camouflage uniform. Not only that, but it is designed to keep you cool when it is hot, warm when it is cold, breezy when you are sweaty and dry when it is wet. Its more advanced than most of your military equipment combined!

And no, most modern militaries dont have multiple cammo's for multiple terrains
The US army who have only one cammo type - UCP
The US marines who only have one type = MARPAT
And the british with only one type - MTP
And Canada with one type - CADPAT
And France who are standardizing to one type - FÉLIN

So, Mr Military researcher - why dont you know that most nations are standardizing their cammo?

Patchesagain:
1. Glovs are not needed
2. Knee pads are not needed
3. Men are wearing helmets or have them attached to their packs
4. Body armor is only worn in urban combat or in operations that will result in high intensity combat. This has been the way we fight since Angola. Americans also do not wear their plate-carriers all the time. Its worn dependant on need.

Your argument is pointless and a waste of time.

Patchesagain:
Unlike Nigerian soldiers:

- they all have the same uniforms

Patchesagain:
Stop moving the goalposts

First you said we cant deploy 3000 men for training.

I proved you wrong.

Then you said those men have no equipment and posted a picture of men on a parade to try to prove it.

I proved you wrong.

Augustus. Every single soldier within the SANDF has the same basic equipment. We arent Nigeria - we dont need our soldiers to buy their own personal kit

SANDF is standardized and has kit nigeria could only dream of.

SANDF is proved poorly kitted, you CANNOT kit just 3,000 troops. Nigeria beats you hands down on soldiers kit
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Patchesagain:
No - you have an imaginary budget. Do you know what a budget is? Do you need a lesson in accounting?

The money has been allocated within the budgets and presented before parliament.

I dont know what you expect from us, a photo of a pile of cash?

Patchesagain:
Because they are on parade dipshit.

You wear your combat kit while training.

You said we never deployed 3000 for training.

I proved you wrong.

Give up this pointless debate.

Patchesagain:
What you want a picture of cash?

Budget on Paper = the cash

Patchesagain:
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33426:acquisition-of-additional-vip-aircraft-now-a-scamp-project&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242


Aquisitions are announced well ahead. VIP transport aquisition was announced last year.

Just like next years aquisition of MPA and transport was announced this year.

patches689:
That money was accounted for last year

We have known about this acquisition for ages.

Airlift and MPA are budgeted for next year

patches689:
Bad reporting

VIP transports were budgeted for in the 2014/2015 budget - it was announced ages ago

MPA's and transports have been budgeted for in the 2016/2017 budget - it was announced ages ago

patches689:
PORT ELIZABETH, Republic of South Africa (July 25, 2013) -- Approximately 700 U.S. and 3,000 South African Defense Force service members gathered here for the opening ceremony of Exercise Shared Accord 13, July 24.
http://www.army.mil/article/107990/

SANDF deployed 20 000 men to Angola

Fact remains - South African soldiers are better equipped.

patches689:
Augustus

ALl radars on jets in the world have blind spots.

Your radar dish does not rotate through 360 degrees

Thus you do not have 360 degree coverage.

Do you need another sciece lesson?

patches689:
Augutus.

No one cares about the rear survey - we are talking about the sides.

I repeat same question third time in one day, please stop telling tales, show us Italian Grifo 7 radar all round view technical specifications as proof of your fake claim that Grifo is blind at the sides.....prove it....we are still waiting
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Henry120:
Are you blind?

However, the money to be spent on the new jets was originally earmarked to buy crucial freight carriers needed for South African troops abroad.




Zuma blew the money......... like a Lagos party!!

Henry120:
The South-Africans can kiss good-bye their multiple wet dreams of any Transport planes. Uselessness of a country.



Johannesburg - A storm is brewing over the acquisition of new VIP jets for President Jacob Zuma and his Cabinet at a cost of R2 billion, just after Finance Minister Nhlanhla Nene announced revised spending plans to reduce waste.

Netwerk24 reported that the three new VIP jets - a Boeing Business Jet and two new Falcon 900 Business Jets - were being acquired for "international commitments" as the president's international obligations have increased dramatically.

However, the money to be spent on the new jets was originally earmarked to buy crucial freight carriers needed for South African troops abroad.


CC: Agaugust

Jln115, Mikeczar, patches689, Saengine

MikeCZAR:
That's how radars work. Not what you're dreaming.

How does an aircraft radar scan?

Does Gripen radar detect enemy jets at the back behind and sideways beside the Gripen?

#Trap
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Henry120:
Like we ever doubted the SAN wasn't culpable in the "mis-firing" of Mr. Anthony Day. The SANDF has a history of incompetence, ineptitude and sheer stup1dity.

Here's another incident showing the gross incompetence of the SANDF and her poorly trained men.




Johannesburg - An SANDF unit could possibly have fired the mortar shell that crashed into a house in Brakpan, on the East Rand, an army spokesperson said on Monday.

"We are still verifying pieces of information we have which suggest that one of the SA National Defence Force units was involved," spokesperson Xolani Mabanga said on Monday.

Police said on Sunday that a 20-year-old woman was injured when the mortar shell crashed through the roof of her house on Saturday.

The woman was in a critical but stable condition in a hospital in Benoni.

She was named in media reports on Monday as Felicia Klopper. She reportedly suffered a cracked skull and shoulder injuries when the mortar shell hit her head.

Police spokesperson Kabelo Marumo said on Monday that police were investigating.

"We will provide an update as soon as we get more information," he said.

The woman's home was reportedly near the Apex Military Base in Dalview, Brakpan.

Mabanga said mortars were used by the military, and its operations were normally conducted by more than one person.

"During peace time it is something we use in training, or for the purposes of demonstration, but not within a residential area."

He said the military used training areas or a shooting range to do demonstrations.

The maximum range of this type of mortar was 2.5km, he said.

MikeCZAR:
Explain to us how your magical radar is able scan behind the aircraft.

Did you see that angular radar coverage cone provided by patches?

Your F-7s will be intercepted out of it since they will be detected first at long ranges, they won't know what's killing them.

jln115:
"All other photos are training demo at home."

Whats the difference if 3000 soldiers are fully kitted in a training exercise compared to a real combat situation? They have the kit! they will thus have the same kit in combat situations as well.

"Conclusion, SANDF has full kit for only about 1,000 troops"
We have over 2000 troops on UN missions, and all of them are fully kitted!

Why dont you show me of just 1 SANDF soldier who is not fully kitted in a combat situation!!

patches689:
Pic related

Its why AWACS exist

Dipshit

I said show me Italian Grifo 7 radar all round view technical specifications as proof of your fake claim that Grifo is blind at the sides.....prove it....we are still waiting

jln115:
@Agaugust

patches689:
Outcome remains the same, Grip detect first, maneuver out of F-7's radar cone and attack from the sides - where it is blind.
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jln115:
Still dont see 30000 mate!

Msauza:
Can you see why I have said that you are a dull head. Black and white television set can be made at any time of the year, even in year 2020, should there ever be poor people who still need a cheap television set. The F7 was built in the same way.

FIAR grifo-7 radar was built in the 1980 for export version of J7s. DUMMMMMMMMY!!!

http://robertang..com/2007/02/fiar-grifo-radar.html

jteku:
Henry120 thought i made a joke out of this.....whatz up with the insult