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MikeCZAR:
whatever you're still behind.

It is sad when you Nigerian celebrate things we have been doing since the 80s.....

.....Thanks to 300 years uninterrupted white minority rule in South Africa

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EVarn:
Training and experience walk hand in hand,but on a scale of preference,experience beats training.
There are heavily trained field soldiers who freeze when they see battle.Battle simulations are quite different from real life combat,on the practice ground,the biggest fatality you can sustain is a nose bleed,broken bone,wounded pride and serious tongue lashing from your disgruntled superior.but is real combat,failure means death.That is why many soldiers,even though they've got training,tend to loose nerve in the middle of real action.Trainers can only teach the troops and hope for the best.
But experience is a rare attribute needed for a formidable armed force.Even without preliminary training,once you've got the experience,you've got the training needed.

Nice reply there bro.

Learning on the job like many technicians do without going to special schools. The white man calls it HANDS ON SKILLS AND CAPABILITY
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Henry120:
Nigeria has a rapidly growing infrastructural sector, and the country within the last 4 years has paved/built enough roads, that in length is half of planet earth.

Nigeria is also home to Africa's most Ambitious projects Eko-Atlantic city and Centenary city. Our Rail project was also named in one of the world's Top 10 projects largest projects.

Julius berger a Nigerian construction company is Africa's largest construction company.

South Africans won't google search those ones o, it's only Makoko and Ajegunle they will deliberately google find as if the slums in South Africa have disappeared yesterday
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Msauza:
It is a fact that SA has the best defence industry in Africa. If you don't know that look at Sipri to see which African country is in the top 20 arms exporter.

Defence industry is manufacturing, not exporting. You are talking about overseas sales instead of industrial production.

The biggest and best defence industry in Africa is Egypt, but their military is so big and powerful with millions of soldiers, that they absorb all their defence manufacturing into their armed forces and nothing left for export.

Egypt has manufactured about 1,000 main battle tanks, but South Africa has NEVER manufactured even 1 piece.

Egypt manufactured jet fighter engines but South Africa does not.

Egypt has manufactured over 10,000 guided missiles but South Africa is still 10 times far behind in numbers produced.

Egypt manufactures modern long range ballistic missiles designed locally at home and built at home, South Africa does not have any functioning ballistic missile in it's arsenal and has NOT produced a modern ICBM in history.

The best and biggest defence industry in Africa is that of Egypt, but they don't go on internet and boast like the empty barrel called South Africa

FACT !!
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MikeCZAR:
You can have intelligent officers with degrees from every military academy in the world get beaten by rebels.

Training>experience.

Every standard army has standard training, even Zimbabwe is well trained.

Combat experience makes the difference between different armies.

The army with training alone has one strength, the army with both training and battlefield experience has two strengths combined.

War experience is the icing sugar and cream on the cake....and that is what has downgraded SANDF to the level of Botswana
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andrewza:
You do know we have not had issues for some time now.

You have power cut issues today, I have a new Southie contact with me here, he tells me it will take many years to build new capacity and get South African enough electricity supply. You will remain screwed up for a long long time, massive power supply capacity CANNOT be built overnight.

Thou shalt survive on candles for many years, thus saith thy critical condition
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MikeCZAR:
If you compare to other countries some don't even have electricity.

Production is greater than all sub-saharan countries.

Life gets worse in Southie Kingdoms...

https://www.sapeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/candle-e1417992287456.jpg

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MikeCZAR:
South Africa has the best infrastructure, universities and military support companies.

You now live on candles, over one million candles burn every night in South Africa while darkness envelopes your land, electro-darkness

In South Africa, Black Power Means Power Blackouts

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/energy-and-resources/rolling-power-cuts-spark-fears-for-south-africa-s-economic-future-1.2103150

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=22736

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https://www.sapeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/south-african-new-national-anthem-590x585.jpg

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FighterPilot:
Does anyone know that Mokopa missile and Mupsaw secretly entered service with the SAAF?

Does anyone know that Su-30 Flanker jets with BVR missiles secretly entered service with NAF ?

patches689:
The SANDF COP is something Nigerians could only dream of, compared to your poorly entrenched position, with ammunition strewn about the place in haphazard fashion, men who dont even have a uniform, rusty old AK's no communications equipment and foreigners operating your equipment for you

That Nigerian army Konduga base was 100% safe in 20 attacks and lost only one soldier but killed 1,000 enemy soldiers in 6 months.

You are sitting down a laptop to criticize an army unit that won all it's battles and won a war in record time.

Nothing ever went wrong with ammunition storage, the war is over, only you dream of an explosion inside the base. Go sell your nincompoop analysis to your SANDF inexperienced army, they would enjoy base defence and ammunition storage lecture from a mere Soweto civilian.

Your dreams are becoming like narcotic hallucinations, your PHOTO 1 below is NOT human blond hair, it's a part of the pilot's collar neck region clothing and and kit.

Your PHOTO 2 below shows you have overdose of cocaine inhaled through both your nose, ears, and eyes ! There are Nigerians with super light skin and almost white hands, see my own PHOTOS number 3 and 4.

You must have been drugged overnight weekend and dumped in a bar toilet before you woke up to browse Nairaland, see your ugly Soweto face like that of Okafor in comedy !
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patches689:
So pic related + some headphones + some welding googles = impressive?

Wow, you have some low standards

Next time, mind your language !

Photo 1 : Inferior South African tank crew with ZERO eye protection and low standard kit

Photo 2 : Superior Nigerian tank crew with FULL eye protection and high standard kit

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Msauza:
Yet, Seleka lost hundreds of their men in relation to only 15 men that SANDF lost.

Show me funeral or dead body of one single Seleka soldier, until then, NO SINGLE SELEKA REBEL DIED !

With due respect to the dead, may their gentle souls R.I.P Amen : Below is SANDF funeral of Seleka battle casualties, ONLY SANDF troopd died in Bangui as Seleka rubbished your army in broad daylight


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patches689:
Nope

You posted a photo of some guys in normal military helmets wearing welding goggles

Show us a clear picture of Nigerian tank equipment.

Can you name the helmet Nigeria uses? I can name ours.

I see your hu.miliation is leading you into mental disaster

So, ordinary military helmets that every soldier wears also have those big communication headphones... LOL

It's so sweet to wreck this Patrick @Patches....he turns blue, turns red...turns into mental case

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patches689:
Why cant you show us a single picture of a Nigerian tanker in proper uniform and equipment?

I just showed you 10....ten, not just a single 1...one....I HAVE JUST SHOWN YOU TEN NIGERIAN TANK CREW WITH WORLD CLASS UNIFORM AND EQUIPMENT.....2 each inside each Scorpion tank ! Tank crew coverall uniforms, tank crew helmets and headgear with face protection visors and communication headphones factory fitted !

I have d.emolished your 3 day old argument with just one photo

You are hu.miliated @Patches....you are fvcking W.recked ..... (((((( BOOM ))))))

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patches689:
If you managed to keep up with the argument you would notice that augugbug has been soundly defeated and has resorted to posting pictures of mechanics and passing them off as tank crews

Simple fact of the matter is that your tank crews are not properly equipped

Even sanction starved rhodesia was able to give their tank crews proper equipment

Nigeria is not a hollywood and internet photo army, our tank crews have coveralls and standard uniforms including standard tank crew headgear/helmet with communications attached. The fact that they don't show it all in open photos does not mean they don't have it.

Grow up dude, how much does a T-72 tank cost? About $ 2 million for a tank, then you think a mere $300 coverall uniform is too much for Nigeria to buy? We even sew and make those uniforms in NA factory in Lagos.

Fool of Soweto....see Nigerian scorpion tank crew below in large numbers with full tank crew uniforms and tank crew special headgear that has both communication headphones and face protection visors all included.....world class Nigerian tank crew !

Mumu you are !
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patches689:
Nope argument has allways been about uniform.

Uniform does not win you a war. Seleka has no standard uniform, but they defeated SANDF in less than 24 hours battle, many of them wearing just jeans and T-shirts, they drove out SANDF wearing special expensive cam uniforms, and a lot of boxes of spare SANDF uniforms were abandoned by the fleeing Soweto army. If Seleka wears SANDF uniform tomorrow we all know how they got it.

By the way, that incident means SANDF special uniform is now readily available for sale in the black market of Bangui
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patches689:
From your own source:

[size=13pt]“Although our deployment is mainly meant for Operation Corona at the border-line, my troops are alert and fully prepared to deal with rhino poachers and other crimes such as illegal border crossing and possession of stolen goods,” said Lt Col Vilakazi.[/size]

Grow up, this is boring.

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First deployment was operation Corona, new assignment is right inside Kruger Park chasing and shooting Rhino poachers who dribbled SANDF into submission.....

"The deployment of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) at Kruger National Park in the Mpumalanga Province is described as a step in the right direction by all stakeholders in the fight against rhino poaching in South Africa."


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patches689:
The men are all in the same uniform, unlike yourse

The men all have shoes, unlike yours

The men dont have to use civilian clothing, unlike yours.


Who says the man in the pants is part of the crew?

Argument is NOT about colour of unifrom, it's about tank crew NOT wearing coverall inside base doing labour work like the man kneeling down on the bright side of your very own photo, he has NO COVERALLS...he wears pants with normal waist belt and even hooks a small pouch on it....your own photo gives evidence against you

Your own photo proved me right....Thanks bros !
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patches689:
[size=13pt]READ YOUR OWN SOURCE

1. Not tank crew
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Yes, Tank crew, doin labour work on another tracked heavy armoured vehicle....Tank mechnics, I am very right !

"BAGHDAD—Sgt. David Stoehr, bottom, an Indianapolis native, and Pvt. James Holland, a Dallas native, both M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank mechanics with Company F, 1st “Vanguard” Battalion,"

http://www.riley.army.mil/News/Photos.aspx?igphoto=2000769461
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patches689:
2. The vehical has battle damage, those are most likely mechanics repairing the vehical while it is in motorpool.

Thanks for proving me right, your own photo shows the tank crew kneeling down on right hand side holding the hammer head, wears NO overalls like the others, see his belt

Their is NO world standard uniform for tank crew working labour inside their own base....Olodo !
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patches689:
1. Thats not a tank
2. The vehical has battle damage, those are most likely mechanics repairing the vehical while it is in motorpool.

Both men were TANK CREW with NO COVERALLS !

"BAGHDAD—Sgt. David Stoehr, bottom, an Indianapolis native, and Pvt. James Holland, a Dallas native, both M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank mechanics with Company F, 1st “Vanguard” Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Advise and Assist Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, United States Division – Center, clean an M88 Armored Recovery Vehicle Aug. 20, 2011 at Camp Taji, Iraq."


http://www.riley.army.mil/News/Photos.aspx?igphoto=2000769461

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patches689:
SADF used foreigners for one battalion out of an army of 500 000 men.

The men hired were fromer SANDF and SADF

The Vice corrispondent said that the Strike Force was trained by foreigners - who provided an airwing as well

And who says it is a victory? You think COIN is won by holding ground?

SADF NEVER had 500,000 troops inside Angola, you would have wiped out the 50,000 Cubans in one day.

You had only 4,000 troops at any time on frontline, with 1,000 mercenaries imported from USA and Europe, then the recces and buffalo battalions also had hundreds of Angolans, Zimbabweans, Mozambicans etc all helping South Africa to stop Cuba from driving straight into Pretoria
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patches689:
G-6 with standard ammunition is 39km.

G6 with VLAP is 53km
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/

What 45km range MRLS?

SANDF has NO VLAP shells

Your army has a fvcking maximum artillery range of less than 39 km....
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patches689:
He is wearing his overalls with the top unzipped.

You have just confirmed my argument by showing a tanker working in his overalls.

Do you even know what overalls are?

Coveralls do NOT have belts :

http://www.riley.army.mil/News/Photos.aspx?igphoto=2000769461
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patches689:
And that Nigerian company hired South Africans to set up your 72nd Strike Force (or whatever it is called). Confirmed by the latest Vice Episode and confirmed by the white guy flying the hind in that episode

Hired South African private company that has soldiers from all over the world. We did NOT hire SANDF....South African military.

The SADF used mercenaries NOT private military companies but real mercenary fighters in thousands to fight Cuban army in Angola !

The VICE reporter said that despite the few PMC that trained the small strike force of MRAP men....not T-72, not dismount infantry, not artillery, not air force.....just mwntored the already Nigerian army tarined the small Strike force only.....Vice reporter said it was still a TOTALLY NIGERIAN ARMY WAR AND VICTORY.....that was the conclusion at the end of the video, go play it again
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patches689:
1. The bases had better be more than 50km apart, because the G6 has a max range of 67km. Meaning your base will be shelled into oblivion before you even have to think of Gripen.
2. What radar detection does the F-7 have?

The rest of your post is trash, not even worth responding to.

SANDF G-6 artillery max shell range is 39 km according to your own army sources.

Nigeria has 45 km max range rocket artillery.

The rest of your comment lacks any technical common sense and needs no reply
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patches689:
The base has 2 things your frontline fortifications dont

1. Barbed-wire
2. sand-bagged strongpoints

That man up there is just one of many - exploiting the flat terrain to watch for major troop movements.

SANDF with African Union money built a base for 1,500 troops in a peace keeping environment.

When South African army grows up to Nigerian army's advanced experience level and builds hundreds of bases for 30,000 men spread over land as big as Scotland inside a real life war zone, come back and talk to us on Nairaland
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EVarn:
a mortar team cannot bombard a target they cant see,to blow up konduga's weapon storage,a lot of accuracy and precision would be needed.fortunately,if you cant see or locate,then you cant hit.

You beat me to it bros.

I was just about to ask them if the Bokos also saw the video we are now seeing, the Southies are talking as if Boko Haram had all these videos of the armoury shown to them to guide their attacks. The Southies forgot that we are now seeing the secret inside that Konduga army base hidden before now and hidden during the battles, now publicly revealed after the war has ended.

You know a South Africa cannot think straight !
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andrewza:
It takes one lucky shot. Just one.

Yes Boko Haram got it's one lucky shot and killed 1 Nigerian soldier after 20 attacks on that same base.

Nigerian army got 1,000 shots on target in the hearts of 1,000 Boko fighters.....those were not lucky shots....skillful shots they were !
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MikeCZAR:
Did you watch the video with your ears closed?

The positions were attacked several times.

A surprise mortar attack, in less than 5 minutes insurgents can throw more than 4 bombs to a position and run.

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1,000 Bokos died in the process, Nigeria lost only 1 soldier in that base.

Only a fool like you South Africans will still find something to complain about just out of envy and shame

SANDF lost their base to Seleka in just one attack, why did you not forward your 'advisory tactic's to your country's army?
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andrewza:
You do know what a mortar is right? Because it don't care about terrain and they have a range of 2km for the small ones and above 10km for the big ones.

Nigerian army had artillery cover for that range up to 26 km range, play the video again.

We defeated 20 attacks on that base and killed 1,000 enemy fighters while we lost only 1.

That Nigerian base is perfect, the commandant has been promoted and medals won by those men !

Even NATO will not beat our record
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